From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #175 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 4 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 175 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) [Mark-Leon Tho] Black NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Duplex review - april 23 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Duplex review - april 23 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) [Bob.Muller@Fl] njc - Thanks -Political ["Marianne Rizzo" ] united 93, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] njc politcal ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: njc politcal ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] njc life sentence for Moussaoui ["Marianne Rizzo" ] RE: njc life sentence for Moussaoui ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] NJC) My LIfe Above Pottery Barn ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: njc life sentence for Moussaoui ["Bree Mcdonough" ] re: Joni thing at the Mendel ["c Karma" ] Re: Black NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] njc, (For the) Roses, for the mothers ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) ["ron" ] RE: Duplex review - april 23 ["patrick leader" ] NJC - Fundraiser ["Cassy" ] RE: Duplex review - april 23 NJC [Bob Muller ] Cover of The Rolling Stone [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Joni on the cover of the Rolling Stone ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni on the cover of the Rolling Stone [Bob Muller ] Re: njc life sentence for Moussaoui ["gene" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:50:57 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) Hey Bob. Another fine effort. A mixed bag as usual. My faves? Cactus Tree - Geraldine and People's Parties/Same Situation - Carolyn Montgomery. I must say though, I prefer Gregson and Collister's version of Same Situation more. Thanks so much for your continuing efforts. NP Epiphany - David Bridie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:20:07 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Black NJC I don't know if any jonilistas have deaf and/or mute children or other family members and/or friends, but last night I saw a wonderful film about this subject. It is a film called 'Black' and it was playing as part of the BAFF (Barcelona Asian Film Festival) season. It is directed by Sanjay Leela Bhansali and stars Amithab Bachcha and Rani Mukherjee. It would also be interest of anyone who wants to see an example of non-Hollywood and non-European film making. I recommend it. Other films from Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Indonesia, Tailand, Cambodia and Bhutan. mike in baff np - Anthony and the Johnsons - My Lady Story ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 07:56:08 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Duplex review - april 23 I just knew you would be there. How great others came and joined you. Thanks so much. I was so anxious to hear or read something from someone who's judgment I trust! Jerry > hey, i've been crazed busy, but i did hope to review the "Tales of Joni: The > Storefront Sings Mitchell" event i attended week before last with brian > gross, michael o'malley and his partner rene. we had a short but lovely > time catching up. > > so i've been rolling thoughts around in my head > > 1) cabaret singers are extremely well trained. each of these performers > had really strong vocal technique and variety in their voices. > 2) cabaret singers really emphasize the lyrics, and this is a pleasure, > because it makes the songs extremely communicative > 3) i was also struck by how young many of the singers were. made me feel a > little old. > 4) they smile a lot, sometimes too much, sometimes when it doesn't fit the > lyric at all. > 5) no guitar at this event, just a damn fine-sounding grand piano. some of > the singers had pianists as accompanists, a couple of the singers played for > themselves. the piano work was of a very satisfying, consistently high > level. > 6) the three men who took solo songs made them distinctly gay. this is in > direct contrast with how i've heard some of the songs sung on cover frisbees > or at fests. not good or bad, and with varying degrees of success. this > brings me to the first highlight: > > - michael holland singing 'strange boy' (and his strange boy sang > 'woodstock' within the song). holland played piano and sang, his voice > wasn't striking but very smooth, and he really truly felt the song. strange > boy has always felt the most potentially 'gay' song of joni's; the attitude > toward the guy feels very familiar to me as a gay man, much more than > 'coyote' and other songs. holland just really inhabited the song, and i > think we were all in agreement that it was a great moment. > > - baby jane dexter singing 'be cool'. this was late in the show, and it > felt like an adult had come on stage, almost for the first time. i've heard > the version that showed up on a cover disk, but her dark and low voice > sounds much better live, and her rhythmic push, her sass, just work. > > - liz mccartney did a lovely job with 'night ride home' and it was great to > hear a later song. > > most of the rest of the show was very entertaining, there were many fine > voices, but i think i'm going to leave it at that. > > patrick, overscheduled again > > np - matmos - steam and sequins for larry levan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:34:16 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Duplex review - april 23 Thanks for taking the time to post your notes, Patrick. The only other review I read said that Baby Jane really stole the show and held the audience in her hand. Too bad that vibe didn't translate to the two live tracks she's released (the same songs she performed at the Duplex). Michael Holland's performances were the ones I was most excited about, both in terms of obscure song selection and because I really liked his version of "A Case Of You" released a couple of years back. (Matter of fact, that whole CD was great). I was a bit disappointed with the song selections...very predictable for the most part. You'd think that someone would realize that untouched songs like "Last Chance Lost" done with such style and power by Bettye Lavette at Carnegie Hall would inspire more risk-taking. Did you catch the follow-up show this last Sunday? 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Since Volume 2 is a 3-CD set, I'll send out the links each Saturday, so get ready for that as well. LOTS of gems on these discs. Bob NP: The Gene Harris Quartet, "The Song Is Ended" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 08:50:48 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc - Thanks -Political >look at what can be done to address the >terrorists' grievances (which were tangible at the >beginning but not anymore; now it's generalized >destructive fury). For example, why does the U.S. have >military bases in Saudi Arabia, considered holy ground >by Muslims? Since that is one of bin Laden's and his >followers' main irritants, why not at least consider >moving the bases elsewhere? We should not have the bases there. . HOW WOULD WE LIKE IT if they had bases in our country at a place where we deemed inappropriate? why give them reason to dislike us? >what can be done to address the >terrorists' grievances >what can be done to address the >terrorists' grievances >what can be done to address the >terrorists' grievances do we consider this much? Marianne Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 10:15:32 -0700 (PDT) From: dsknyc05 Subject: Re: NJC - Thanks - Pol - - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >And something else that's been bopping around in my >mind lately...I suppose that nabbing Bin Laden is OK, but does >anyone really think that getting rid of ONE GUY is going to alter the path >of >terrorism? It would have made a huge difference if he'd been caught six months to a year after 9/11. Catch him and then look at what can be done to address the terrorists' grievances (which were tangible at the beginning but not anymore; now it's generalized destructive fury). For example, why does the U.S. have military bases in Saudi Arabia, considered holy ground by Muslims? Since that is one of bin Laden's and his followers' main irritants, why not at least consider moving the bases elsewhere? It might have been that no matter what the U.S. did, the extremists were looking for a fight and would have found other things to focus on even if the U.S. bases had been moved out of Saudi Arabia. But, since that sensible path was not followed, we'll never know. >It seems that we tend to transpose our 'horror-movie' >upbringing to the real world; that if we can just get rid of the boogeyman >we'll >be all right. As if terror was one guy. I mean, how many of Osama's #2's >have we supposedly disposed of, and there are always a vast number of >evildoers to take his place. If we did capture Osama, don't you think that >another guy would take over the slot? _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 08:55:20 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: united 93, njc Hi Debra, it felt to me more of a documentary. . like a reinactment. . made me feel even more sensitive to their plight. . if anyone's thinking of going, don't go if you want to be entertained. . it was like one of those moives for me like,"Rabbit Proof Fence." both should be seen.. but don't expect entertainment love to all today I could cry Marianne >It's distasteful to me that it's been made into entertainment in what feels to me like a very short time since that horrible day. The good thing, maybe, is that it will give people who did not directly experience it a more emotional visceral understanding of that day. I'm not sure what that's worth... I'd hate for people who see it to get so emotionally charged up against the "bad guys" that invading Iran seems like a good idea. It'll be interesting to see how the Bushies use this movie for their own benefit.< Debra Shea, _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 08:58:36 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc politcal let's just keep dreaming. . (I want to) and maybe the dream can make it happen. . I believe in moving mountains. . . Marianne >Wouldn't it be great if fuel from corn became the most-used fuel? Take the corn syrup out of all the processed food helping to make Americans fat, and make fuel from the corn instead. Corn farmers would be happy, taxpayers wouldn't have to subsidize them to keep them from growing too much corn, Americans would (eventually) lose that "all food has to taste sweet to be good" training, and we wouldn't have to be killing people to "protect" that oil. < Debra Shea _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 09:16:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: njc politcal If Brazil can do it, why can't we? In Brazil, by law, all gasoline contains a minimum of 25 percent alcohol. Yet ethanol is so popular it actually accounts for 40 percent of all vehicle fuel. By 2007, 100 percent of all new Brazilian cars may be able to run on 100 percent ethanol. Brazilian sugar-cane-fed biorefineries will be capable of producing sufficient ethanol to allow the entire fleet, new and old cars alike, to do so. In Brazil, ethanol is now being used in aviation. Small planes, like crop dusters, are switching to ethanol because it is a superior fuel and is more widely available, even in remote parts of the country, than conventional aviation fuel. Its stunning success with ethanol has encouraged Brazil to begin displacing diesel fuel with vegetable oils from its vast soybean crop. Within 15 years it expects to substitute biodiesel for 20 percent of its conventional diesel. One more detail. Back in the mid 1990s, Brazil ended its ethanol subsidies. Nevertheless, with world oil prices hovering around $55 a barrel, the price of ethanol today is only half that of gasoline. Since its inception, Brazil's ethanol program has displaced imported oil worth $120 billion. This is comparable to a savings of almost $2 trillion for a U.S.-sized economy. Marianne Rizzo wrote: > let's just keep dreaming. . (I want to) and maybe the dream can make it > happen. . I believe in moving mountains. . . > > > > Marianne > > >>Wouldn't it be great if fuel from corn became the > most-used fuel? Take the corn syrup out of all the > processed food helping to make Americans fat, and make > fuel from the corn instead. Corn farmers would be > happy, taxpayers wouldn't have to subsidize them to > keep them from growing too much corn, Americans would > (eventually) lose that "all food has to taste sweet to > be good" training, and we wouldn't have to be killing > people to "protect" that oil. < > > Debra Shea > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:34:20 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc life sentence for Moussaoui life sentence for Moussaoui: Yes, I was happy with this. . and I too am opposed to the death penalty. . life inprisonment seems far worse than death to me. . I don't see death as a bad thing. . I mean, yes there are the uncertainties .. but it is interesting to me that any christian or spiritual person could favor the death penalty. . well maybe it cause they believe in hell. but don't they believe in "thou shall not kill. .. " ? sorry, we don't really need to be talking about this subject at least I don't (so why am I?) : -) well I don't believe in hell after death (not like the kind we've heard about). . I do believe in a hell on earth. . like the kind where your child dies or something emotionally excruciating. . something like that. . bye bye for now. XOXO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:42:09 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: aol,njc I have had quite a lot of trouble this week emailing my friends on aol . . including some of you. messages have been coming back undeliveralbe this problem arises about once a month or so it seems. . . and then you miss the email. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:11:01 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: RE: njc life sentence for Moussaoui I don't know why there's all this hand-wringing by those that wanted the death penalty. I am certain that he'll have a far more gruesome death awaiting him in the form of 'prison justice', and those death penalty folks should get far more satisfaction from that. I'd doubt that his rep will be any different than a child molester's, and we all know what happens to them in the pen. J/ Original Message: - ----------------- From: Marianne Rizzo treegreen1@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:34:20 -0400 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: njc life sentence for Moussaoui life sentence for Moussaoui: Yes, I was happy with this. . and I too am opposed to the death penalty. . life inprisonment seems far worse than death to me. . I don't see death as a bad thing. . I mean, yes there are the uncertainties .. but it is interesting to me that any christian or spiritual person could favor the death penalty. . well maybe it cause they believe in hell. but don't they believe in "thou shall not kill. .. " ? sorry, we don't really need to be talking about this subject at least I don't (so why am I?) : -) well I don't believe in hell after death (not like the kind we've heard about). . I do believe in a hell on earth. . like the kind where your child dies or something emotionally excruciating. . something like that. . bye bye for now. XOXO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:16:36 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: United 93 njc I thought about you and others who were more directly effected that day....thinking there would be plenty of people who would not want to see it. As far being entertained? The entertainment portion. well... is non-existent...zilch. It's a strange movie..as that was a strange day. Usually with fictionalized disaster movies the viewer is caught up emotionally with five or six characters...not so with this movie. With United 93 ..you were emotionally tied with everyone on that plane. I think the director/writer goal was to do just that..and he suceeded. Sort of like what effects one..effects all .... Bree > > I know it's gotten rave reviews, but I just can't > > bring myself to see it. > > > > That day was horrifying enough when it really > > happened, and I have no desire > > to revisit it at the movie theater. > >That's how I feel about it. > >It's distasteful to me that it's been made into >entertainment in what feels to me like a very short >time since that horrible day. The good thing, maybe, >is that it will give people who did not directly >experience it a more emotional visceral understanding >of that day. I'm not sure what that's worth... I'd >hate for people who see it to get so emotionally >charged up against the "bad guys" that invading Iran >seems like a good idea. It'll be interesting to see >how the Bushies use this movie for their own benefit. > >Debra Shea, >in NYC >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:25:17 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC) My LIfe Above Pottery Barn LOL, it wouldn't be my choice to live like this either (I'm a country girl & need the sights, smells, sounds of birds, animals, trees, etc) but its nothing new (except maybe on the scale being created by developers_.... it is called mixed use housing & I remember the small town where I grew up there were apartments that people lived in above the stores on main street... >So this new style of housing written about by Mark Morford (of the San Francisco Chronicle and www.sfgate.com) describes what I would consider to be my personal hell: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/05/03/note s 050306.DTL I've really gotta find a way to live somewhere other than in the U.S. Lori< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:24:53 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: njc life sentence for Moussaoui I totally agree with you....I was glad when they came back with a life sentence. I was so afraid they would give him the satisfaction of being a martyr. Bree As one who is totally opposed to the death penalty, > >I thank God the jury decided not to make this deranged person into a >martyr. > >(theRev) Vince > >-- >http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:59:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC - Thanks - Pol >It's unfortunate that there aren't enough new recruits to cover the needs of our military to exempt a woman of 52 from having to go to the front and (without getting into the politics of whether we should or should not be fighting in Iraq) when a person makes a committment and takes the compensation for it they are obligated to fulfill their end of the contract.< just like gwb did... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 18:15:19 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Joni thing at the Mendel Bob wrote: I loved the Ode to her Dad, so cute and heartfelt - you can certainly tell that there's a lot of love there. Of course, I was instantly transported to "Let The Wind Carry Me" when I read this portion: You don't remember birthdays or anniversaries you criticize your daughter "no paint, less powder, please!" Bill Anderson is a great guy. And VERY proud of his daughter. The highlight of my trip to "Voices" at the Mendel was (apart from Joni signing my book and my teaching her how to spell "continuum") was the brief and very warm conversation I had with Bill Anderson. We talked about what I as a parent could do to inspire my son to develop his artistic talent. "Keep buying those pencils!", was among the sage and simple advice shared. He beamed as he told me that Joni had been offered "a great deal of money" for her self portrait after Vincent vanGogh that graced the "Turbulent Indigo" cover. CC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 14:27:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Black NJC I went to add this in my Netflix queue but it's not to be found - drats. I did however finally get to see "The Sea Inside" last night, a wonderful, wonderful Spanish film with lots of Barcelona mentions - definitely brought back some good memories. Javier Bardem was amazing, as was this film. I highly recommend it, just have some tissues handy. Bob NP: Stevie Wonder, "Superstition" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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"We women of one country will be too tender of those of another country to allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs." From the bosom of the devasted earth a voice goes up with our own. It says, "Disarm, Disarm!" The sword of murder is not the balance of justice! Blood does not wipe out dishonor nor violence indicate possession. As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons of war, let women now leave all that may be left of home for a great and earnest day of counsel. Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the dead. Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as the means whereby the great human family can live in peace, And each bearing after her own time the sacred impress, not of Caesar, but of God. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 14:47:53 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: re: Joni thing at the Mendel Reminds me of the video footage Ashara took of Joni's painting exhibit. Bill & Myrtle were sitting up on stage where Joni was speaking at the podium, and Bill was just beaming. As a father myself, it is gratifying to see a Dad beaming over his kid. Meanwhile, Myrtle was sitting there with a sour look on her face, probably wondering "who do these people think she is - Kitty Wells?" And it's funny that you mention encouraging your child's creativity...Nate & I did a play together when he was in elementary school, but he's always been more of a sports guy. I never really pushed him to any creative or artistic bent, though he was certainly exposed to LOTS of music. Now he's a rising Junior in college, and in his second year of taking Classical Guitar, and loving it. Bob NP: Bettie Serveert, "Co-coward" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:55:53 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC) My LIfe Above Pottery Barn >> So this new style of housing written about by Mark Morford (of the San >> Francisco Chronicle and www.sfgate.com) describes what I would consider to >> be my personal hell: >> >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/05/03/notes 050306.DTL > LOL, it wouldn't be my choice to live like this either (I'm a country girl & > need the sights, smells, sounds of birds, animals, trees, etc) but its > nothing new (except maybe on the scale being created by developers_.... it > is called mixed use housing & I remember the small town where I grew up > there were apartments that people lived in above the stores on main > street... Yeah Kate, I know it's really just a new twist on an old concept ... but LIVING INSIDE OF A MALL???? How gross is that?? Those planned, "let's pretend it's pre-WWII" communities are creepy enough, aren't they? And why would anyone really want to live in a gated community of any type anyway? I'm sure there are people here who do, but I just don't understand why. I mean, isn't that so ... sterile? The illusion that you're somehow safer is just that: an illusion. Afterall, if I were a criminal, I would find a "secure" neighborhood extra challenging. I would want to see if I could get past the security features/persons (and you know it can't be that hard), and I would for sure want to know what's so precious that it's being guarded that way. Must be something good. Must be something I would want to have. Ugh. No thanks. Give me the vibrance of a TRULY mixed community anyday. And make sure it's many many miles away from anything resembling a goddamned mall. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:30:54 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) hi thanks for the 2nd chance - i was temporarily cut off for exceeding bandwidth (we get 3 gigs a month - i got to 36 gigs before they caught me south park festival!!!:-) some comments black crow - inga swearingen - classy stuff this flight tonight - bros rock crew - the cat was sitting in front of the speaker when this came on - she nearly soiled the speaker.............. both sides now - yuki murakami - certainly an original guitar arrangement, actually like this one a lot michael from mountains & cactus tree - geraldine - aaaAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! i cannot stand geraldine...... she was a huge success here, doing quite a few tours in the 70s & early 80's with corresponding incessant airplay (since most musicians observed the cultural boycott ). excuse me while i puke (tho to be fair my reaction is caused more by bad memories than the two covers here) black crow - garrin benfield band. hey - theyre pretty damn good!!!. im listening to their "august live" cd on cd baby. something tells me ill be investing in a couple of their cds.i would think that there would be quite a few listers who would enjoy them. thanks bob ron np - garrin benfield band - un bound ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:53:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: 76 Joni Covers in the big parade...(Covers, Volume 76) Cool feedback, Ron - sorry that I dredged up those bad Geraldine memories for ya - thanks for the history, I had no information about her from the web and nothing in the liner notes of the LP to go on. I agree with you about the Garrin Benfield band - that was a website download, sure do wish they'd do something in the studio, they bring a nice rocking sensibility to Joni's stuff and are obviously fans as they do a deep track like Black Crow. And very cool that I was able to use the track to help make a sale - that's part and parcel of the project. I was wondering if reloading those links was worth the effort, so thanks for letting me know, and I hope your cat is over the trauma. Bob NP: Joni, "Banquet" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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The only other review I read said that Baby Jane really stole the show and held the audience in her hand. Too bad that vibe didn't translate to the two live tracks she's released (the same songs she performed at the Duplex). Michael Holland's performances were the ones I was most excited about, both in terms of obscure song selection and because I really liked his version of "A Case Of You" released a couple of years back. (Matter of fact, that whole CD was great). I was a bit disappointed with the song selections...very predictable for the most part. You'd think that someone would realize that untouched songs like "Last Chance Lost" done with such style and power by Bettye Lavette at Carnegie Hall would inspire more risk-taking. Did you catch the follow-up show this last Sunday? 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Starkey Hearing Foundation Announces Celebrities Participating in 2006 'So the World May Hear' Awards Gala Friday April 28, 10:00 am ET EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 28, 2006--The Starkey Hearing Foundation, a charitable organization known worldwide for giving the gift of hearing to children in need, will hold it's annual "So the World May Hear" Awards Gala on Saturday, June 17, 2006 at the RiverCentre in St. Paul, Minn. The star-studded event, which last year raised a record $4.2 million, serves not only to raise funds to support the Foundation and its international hearing mission trips but also to recognize individuals who have made significant contributions to mankind. Source: Starkey Hearing Foundation The spectacular evening will include performances by Grammy Award-winning musicians John Mellencamp, Petula Clark, and Dionne Warwick. Dozens of additional celebrities are also expected to attend in an effort to help the Foundation exceed last year's record $4.2 million in donations. The Foundation will also honor eight exemplary individuals, including racing legends Richard Petty, Johnny Rutherford, Sir Jackie Stewart, and Al Unser, Sr.; tennis legend Billie Jean King; baseball Hall of Famers Harmon Killebrew and Willie Mays; and Twin Cities businessman and philanthropist Glen Taylor. All proceeds raised during the Gala support the Starkey Hearing Foundation and its mission of promoting hearing health awareness, providing hearing aids for the underprivileged, and supporting hearing research and education. Primarily, monies raised support the Foundation's internationally recognized hearing mission trips. Since 2000, through such mission trips, the Foundation has provided more than 150,000 hearing aids to those in need around the world. To purchase tickets to this year's Gala, call 1-866-354-3254. To learn more about the Starkey Hearing Foundation, visit www.sotheworldmayhear.org. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 15:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Duplex review - april 23 NJC It was an email sent to me offlist. Bob NP: Los Lobos, "Good Morning Aztlan" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 19:03:13 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Cover of The Rolling Stone Just saw Joni standing to the right of Bill Clinton on the cever of the Rolling Stone, their Aniversy cover. One their favorite people, and mine. Peace Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 23:36:43 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni on the cover of the Rolling Stone Bon soir! I was just watching the CBS evening news and the last segment was about Rolling Stone magazine's 1000th issue. And I saw Joni! (I *think* it's her, but you know me, I see and hear Joni all the time! LOL!) She's on the far left, to the left of Bill Clinton. As I cried out: "There's JONI!!" I heard the reporter say: "Here's Joni!" but my sweetie on the phone said I heard wrong. He said the reporter guy said: "Here's Johnny!" Nah, I don't believe him! The reporter guy said: "Here's Joni!" I know it, I know it! Did anyone else see and hear this? Am I going off the Joni deep end? http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/9117921/2006_rolling_stone_covers/photo/10/large Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 01:26:56 +0100 From: "clive sax" Subject: linda lewis tribute to Joni Hi guys, Brighton Festival just started and Linda Lewis is Performing. She has a new Album out and one of the songs is called 'I keep a wish' . There's a really nice bit in the song about Joni. You can link to the website to have a listen here www.lindalewis.co.uk and follow the directions to MP3's and listen to the interview on radio london where they play the song. X Clive _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni on the cover of the Rolling Stone It's definitely Joni...behind Aretha and next to Clinton - some good company! Bob NP: Jansen & Tilanus, "River" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 01:02:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, a sad anniversary Thank you, Allmanfan54, for sharing your coming of peace age story and the following: "...it's very hard to ignore that Kent State thing. They were down there, man, ready to do it. You can see them, they're all kneeling there, they're all in the kneeling position and they got their slings tight and they're ready to shoot. And there's this kid, this long-haired kid standin' there with a flag wavin' it... I mean, I cannot be a man, and be a human, and ignore that." - - -- DAVID CROSBY, ROLLING STONE magazine interview, July 23, 1970, pp. 22-23. - --------- You got me thinking on this, so I went into our huge graduate student office today to see if any of the "kids" knew about this. (I'm always popping in there preaching peace, especially since many of our graduate students are not Americans, and I want them to know both sides.) Most of them did. In fact, one of them, let's call him Jon, told us how he was at Kent State two years ago on the anniversary, and how the memorial gathering turned into a nice long peace march. He said he has a few friends at Kent State and that the administration there refuses to erect any kind of memorial. He was aghast that you can still park in the parking spaces where the students were shot. He said the administration was thinking of building a gymnasium right over the spot with no mention of or memorial to the tragedy that took place there. Hard to believe something so horrible could happen. From today's Boston Globe: Why Kent State is important today By Michael Corcoran | May 4, 2006 THIRTY-SIX years ago today, Ohio National Guardsmen shot 13 college students at Kent State University who were protesting US incursions into Cambodia as part of the Vietnam War. Nine victims survived, including one who is confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Four students -- Jeffrey Miller, Allison Krause, Bill Schroeder, and Sandy Scheuer -- were killed. The students were unarmed, and the closest was more than 60 feet away from the Guard at the time of the shooting. There was no warning shot; the National Guard never issued an apology; and no one ever spent a day in jail for the killings despite the fact that the President's Commission on Campus Unrest, appointed by President Nixon in 1970, found the shootings to be ''unwarranted and inexcusable." Yearly, since the tragedy, Kent State students, alumni, and others have met on the anniversary of the shooting to reflect and remember. Alan Canfora, who was shot by the Guard, says, ''The students today act as the conscience of the college, and the country . . . just like the students did in 1970." This year's memorial will come, as the last three have, in the midst of a war that has become increasingly divisive. While the memory of Kent State and other violent clashes from that time between protesters and authorities did not deter the incumbent president from leading the country into another unpopular war, it is important to honor Kent State's spirit of dissent and what it taught about the bloody consequences of intense division. Halfway across the country, the lessons of Kent State are taught each semester in debate classes at Emerson College. J. Gregory Payne, associate professor of organizational and political communication and a Kent State historian, has been teaching students about history, advocacy, and rhetoric through the lens of Kent State for decades. According to Payne, remembering this tragedy is important because ''Kent State is not about the past -- it's about the future." Consider the similarities: In 1970, just as today, we had an unpopular president carrying out an unpopular war for questionable reasons. Richard Nixon and George W. Bush embody many of the same divisive characteristics. Bush tells the world: ''You are with us or you are with the terrorists." Nixon's public statement after the shootings blamed the students: ''When dissent turns to violence it invites tragedy." Again our civil liberties are being threatened. Bush has ordered the wiretapping of US citizens without a warrant and holds detainees indefinitely without trial; Nixon was spying on student activists and what he called ''domestic radicals." But, perhaps the most telling comparison is the sharp division within the nation, both then and now. Americans are now, as we were then, split to the core on matters of war and peace, life and death, and cultural values. The President's Commission concluded it was ''the most divisive time in American history since the civil war." Bill Schroeder's parents received signed letters after the shooting saying, among other things, that their ''riot-making, communist son" deserved to die. Today antiwar protesters are unfairly discredited by the administration as they were in 1970. When Cindy Sheehan took antiwar positions after her 24-year-old son, Casey Sheehan, died in Iraq, she was smeared by pundits like Bill O'Reilly, who said she was a pawn of ''far-left elements that are using her" and that Sheehan was ''dumb" enough to let them do it. Of course, the absence of a draft now and its presence then may explain why the antiwar movement during the Vietnam War had a greater intensity then it does now. Still, as the protests in New York City last week indicate, the longer the war in Iraq drags on, the more vehement the opposition seems to get. Musicians, once again, are singing songs of dissent. Last Friday Neil Young, who in 1970 wrote ''Ohio" in reaction to the shootings, began streaming a new antiwar album ''Living with War" for free on his website. Days later, Pearl Jam also released an album made up entirely of protest music. My generation can't ignore the lessons of Kent State. The same mindset and failure in leadership that led National Guardsmen to fire at students of the same age and from the same Ohio hometowns is similar to what led US soldiers to torture detainees in Iraq. Kent State should remind us of what happens when a grossly misguided war divides a country. If we can speak candidly and openly about our history and our present -- even the worst elements of it -- then we can ensure that the lives lost on May 4, 1970, were not in vain. Michael Corcoran is a journalism major at Emerson College. ) Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company. Peace, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 20:57:29 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: njc life sentence for Moussaoui boy!, this is sure a compassionate crowd. myself, it's money and manpower wasted to keep him alive. what's scary is that there are probably thousands like him out there. given the opportunity and means they would do harm to us. he is really a small fish. i don't know, kill/murder him, send him back the middle east. i just know keeping him in prison doesn't help anybody. 6 more months before the next snow, time to listen to some joni. gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: RE: njc life sentence for Moussaoui >I don't know why there's all this hand-wringing by those that wanted the > death penalty. I am certain that he'll have a far more gruesome death > awaiting him in the form of 'prison justice', and those death penalty > folks > should get far more satisfaction from that. I'd doubt that his rep will > be > any different than a child molester's, and we all know what happens to > them > in the pen. > J/ > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Marianne Rizzo treegreen1@hotmail.com > Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:34:20 -0400 > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: njc life sentence for Moussaoui > > > life sentence for Moussaoui: > > Yes, I was happy with this. . > > and I too am opposed to the death penalty. . > > life inprisonment seems far worse than death to me. . > > I don't see death as a bad thing. . > I mean, yes there are the uncertainties .. > > but it is interesting to me that any christian or spiritual person could > favor the death penalty. . > > well maybe it cause they believe in hell. > > but don't they believe in "thou shall not kill. .. " ? > > sorry, we don't really need to be talking about this subject at least I > don't (so why am I?) : -) > > well I don't believe in hell after death (not like the kind we've heard > about). . > > I do believe in a hell on earth. . like the kind where your child dies or > something emotionally excruciating. . something like that. . > > > bye bye for now. > XOXO > > > > Marianne > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dont just search. Find. 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