From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #131 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, April 6 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 131 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Cool Find [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Zep breaks out into a Joni cover [Bob Muller ] Re: please remove me from list [LisaRomaW@aol.com] Re: time, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Bob Dylan njc [Em ] G7th Capos ["don whiteman" ] Re: Page describes Joni, metaphorically [Doug ] "Down To You" piano transcription ["c Karma" ] Re: Dona Alias story ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Bob Dylan njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Don Alias obit from 4/5 NY Times ["Tortorici, Frank" ] Re: Chris Thomas King Does Joni ["Sherelle Smith" ] re: Favorite among Joni's guitar licks ["c Karma" ] Re: Page describes Joni, metaphorically [Catherine McKay ] Re:New Sonya Kitchell CD drops njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] that thread about the earth, njc ["Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" ] BREAKING NEWS [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] fictional characters njc [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: BREAKING NEWS NJC [dsknyc05 ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: fictional characters njc ["Cassy" ] Re: sacred earth / sky and brokeback mountain ["Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Cool Find Just downloaded the bootleg concert of Joni Live At The Troubadour in Hollywood, 1972. It's not crystal clear, mind but a wonderful period. I found it on the BitTorrent site, Dime A Dozen. www.dimeadozen.com For those not familiar with BitTorrent file sharing, write to me off list and I'll give you a quick lesson. Here is the track list: 1. This Flight Tonight. 2. Cactus Tree. 3. Big Yellow Taxi. 4. Barangrill. 5. You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio. 6. Judgement of The Moon and Stars. 7. For Free. 8. Let The Wind Carry Me. 9. All I Want. 10. A Case of You. 11. Carey. 12. Woman of Heart and Mind. 13. Both Sides, Now. 14. Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire. 15. For The Roses. It also includes a little story for the song, Barangrill. Mark in Sydney. NP Barangrill (Live At The Troubadour) - JM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 03:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Zep breaks out into a Joni cover That's pretty cool, to be sure Doug. I pulled it from the "Kashmir" bootleg (same recording) and it made its appearance way back on Volume 34. Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Justice & Independence '85" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:36:31 EDT From: LisaRomaW@aol.com Subject: Re: please remove me from list I have made several requests to have my email name removed from this list. With all due respect, I just do not have the time and this has been cluttering my already voluminous email account. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:40:55 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: time, njc In a message dated 4/6/2006 12:00:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, djp@djpnet.net writes: Also, won't it be 04/05/06 on 4 May 2006 in, say, Europe, or other places with sensible date notation? Yes and at 7:08am it will be 04/05/06/07/08 and for all 9 year olds who have 10, 11, 12, 13, etc. year old siblings it will be 04/05/06/07/08/09/10/11/12/13, etc. And you know how proliferative people in Europe are all the time... or at least they are having all the fun trying from what I hear. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 05:35:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Bob Dylan njc yeah. at least he tries. and people pay good money over and over to go see him. And next time he comes, I'll go again. GF has not one rock and roll bone in her body - or any other musical bone, but she's come to love Bob. The other day she delighted me with a quote on her day off when I asked her if she had any plans she goes "nope, I'm locked in tight and out of range". I laughed!!!!!!! Dylan ain't going nowhere. He's around, and e'r more shall be. Was delighted to find his music was (so appropriately) the soundtrack to "North Country". I had no clue, and was just delighted. Em - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Richard Flynn wrote: > > > Dylan has been playing only piano in his concerts since > > about 2003. The upside is that we don't have to hear him > > attempt lead guitar anymore. > > Does he still attempt to sing? ; ) > > Ducking a lot today, > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:31:25 +1000 From: "don whiteman" Subject: G7th Capos Hi Michael, I bought G7th capo last year to go with my Martin D42. I was a Keyser fan until then but have very quickly changed my mind. These are a great accessory folks. Don in Sydney Australia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:35:37 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Page describes Joni, metaphorically Here's the lyrics, check the last verse Going To California Led Zeppelin Spent my days with a woman unkind, Smoked my stuff and drank all my wine. Made up my mind to make a new start, Going To California with an aching in my heart. Someone told me there's a girl out there with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair. Took my chances on a big jet plane, never let them tell you that they're all the same. The sea was red and the sky was grey, wondered how tomorrow could ever follow today. The mountains and the canyons started to tremble and shake as the children of the sun began to awake. Seems that the wrath of the Gods Got a punch on the nose and it started to flow; I think I might be sinking. Throw me a line if I reach it in time I'll meet you up there where the path Runs straight and high. To find a queen without a king, They say she plays guitar and cries and sings... la la la Ride a white mare in the footsteps of dawn Tryin' to find a woman who's never, never, never been born. Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams, Telling myself it's not as hard, hard, hard as it seems. and thanks to Google , this tuned up. from experts . about . com *Answer* Hi Sara! Going to California was, in part, influenced by Joni Mitchell, who both Robert Plant and Jimmy Page adored. When Plant finally met her in the mid 70's he called it one of the greatest moments in his life. Mitchell had released a song called 'California' on her album "Blue". Originally called 'A Guide To California' it was inspired by tales of earthquakes which constantly threatened the state. But in the song Plant seems to be searching for a beautiful lady more-so than earthquakes. But the ground does begin to "tremble and shake" as well. It developed out of a late night jam session at Headly Grange where the band wrote many of the songs for their 4th album including Stairway To Heaven. Headly was a huge 18th century mansion with no electricity. Page thought it was perfect to record in the old musty place as the acoustics were incredible. As there were so few distractions there, there was little else to do in the evening but get the acoustic guitars out. John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page sat around a log fire and strummed their guitars and mandolins as Plant improvised the lyrics on the spot. As Jimmy Page and Zeppelin manager Peter Grant landed in LA to mix the track at sunset studios, an earthquake struck the area, cracking a dam in nearby San Diego. Hope this helped! Chris. Michael Flaherty wrote: >> It was news to me. >> >> Jim L'Hommedieu > > Well, I don't know if this is news to anyone: > > When Robert Plant sang "Going to California" in the 1972 concert that > was recently (well, a few years ago) issued as "How the West Was One", > after the line "Someone told me there's a girl out there with love in > her eyes and flowers in her hair", he added "Joni". > > To describe it a bit better, he sings the above line, and then in the > pause before the next line sings "Joni". > > Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:36:38 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: "Down To You" piano transcription Thank you Dave Blackburn, and thank you Les for posting that WONDERFUL piano transcription of "Down To You" that includes the missing (from the songbook version) center section. I've already called the tuner, and expect it to save me from reality TV hell. CC NP: CC, "Paprika Plains" solo piano ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:38:46 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Dona Alias story Dear Chuck, Thank you so much for sharing your Don Alias story. I am so saddened by this loss. Shadows and Light is my absolute favorite Joni Mitchell CD and I just loved his solo in it. It is the perfect concert and has comforted me never seeing Joni live. When I listen to it, I feel like I'm right there and I always will. Don became a part of my life at that time. I bought this as a tape back in 1992 I believed and played it until it wore too thin. I then ordered and bought the CD and I have cherished it ever since. Chuck, your story makes my heart smile and I am comforted by it. Thank you. Love, Sherelle Chuck wrote: I guess I should post my Don Alias story one last time.... I was in college and playing piano behind Tommy Sullivan around Boston, on the strength of a summer long Cape gig and an appearance on the Mike Douglas Show. We got a Friday-Saturday gig somewhere in Boston (Ken's Pub, maybe) and we thought it would be cool to get a drummer to round out the sound. We called the Boston Musicians Union and asked for a drummer. Alias shows up with another drummer, with traps and hand drums. (Don was in his Boston grad student phase?) , He was still largely a hand drummer, and he was teaching the other guy. Don played traps. This was 1970, and I can still remember how sweet it was playing over the grooves these guys were creating. (Here we are doing MOR like Bachrach and showtunes.) We were in 'good hands with AllState'. Among my best -ever musical experiences. About two years ago I sent Don an email about this gig, and he claimed to remember it well. A wonderful player and a sweet soul. Chucke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:49:07 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob Dylan njc If he came my way, I'd go see him too. At least his ticket prices are not outrageous and based on the reviews I read from a few of his fans on the California show, his voice is better these days......... So Karen and I braved the rainy weather on Tuesday night -- I think the current count is rain on 30 out of the last 32 days, no joke, a record in these parts -- and journeyed 30 miles north to Santa Rosa. We dashed through the rain and remembered seeing Bob in Hershey, Pennsylvania, in 1994. An unbelievable rain that evening drenched the outdoor crowd, but it was one of those humid, tropical, east coast summer rains. The kind of rain where you don't even care if you get wet, and we eventually quit trying to stay dry. It was beyond torrential, that's for sure. Anyway, halfway through the show Bob huddled with his band -- Bob never huddles with his band, so what is this? -- then broke into "Hard Rain" -- a seldom played gem that stunned the soaked audience. So this was show number 25 for me, 19 for Karen. The venue was the Grace Pavilion at the Sonoma County Fairgrounds. It's a different landscape up there -- to give you a feel parking was $5. There was no security -- we handed our ticket to a long-hair and waltzed on in. If you wanted dinner your choice was either a jumbo dog or a regular dog. The Grace Pavilion belied its name -- maybe "A Tin-Roofed-Airplane-Hangar-suitable-for-Pig (Circuses)" would have been more appropriate. I wonder when the last time Bob played inside with a temperature lower than his age -- he'll be 65 next month. We kept our warm coats on the whole time and wished we'd dressed warmer. The show was General Admission. I hate GA -- too much of an advantage for people who get there early and have the ability to stand on concrete for four hours - -- neither of which are my strong suit. We sat on some aluminum bleachers in the very back. This turned out to be kind of a blessing as the sound mix was excellent. Bob came out at 8:10, wearing a black bandalero suit with red piping, a blousy red polka dot shirt, and his black bandalero hat. He looked good - -- a little gaunt but not frail. He spent the entire night at the keyboards -- evidently his arthritis limits his guitar playing. Unlike his last shows at the Paramount, he was more upright and did not appear to be trying to read lyrics from any cheat sheets. I'd say he danced. In between songs he'd kind of saunter aimlessly around the back -- near the Oscar he won for "Things Have Changed" -- before stepping back to the keyboard. He also played the harmonica quite a bit, which is always a treat for me. Not surprisingly, Bob has re-arranged his songs once again. He opened with a ballad-like version of Maggie's Farm, and the sound mix was the best I've heard in some while. Too often all the noise is jumbled up -- last night Bob's microphone was turned way up and you could hear every word. His voice was outstanding -- not too much growling, and plenty of articulation. His singing was also excellent --he's mostly dropped that up-sing at the end of every line, which I found tiresome over time. The 4400 people in the sold out Pavilion were mostly gray hairs with a healthy mix of teens. Near the end of the show, as we stood and listened to "Like a Rolling Stone" some guy over my shoulder kept yelling "Bobby! Bobby!" I looked back and was kind of surprised -- and happy for some reason -- to see a fourteen year old hollering at Dylan. The set list was fine -- no surprises. High Water was a highlight for me - -- not normally one of my favorite songs but the banjo and overall arrangement was beautiful. Queen Jane was heartfelt, so was Spanish Boots. In the song "Lonesome Day Blues" Bob substituted a line: "Makes me glad I'm alive" for "I wish my mother was still alive." Call Freud. I don't know about this band. I think I now realize that Larry Campbell (the former guitar/mandolin player with the long hair on the right) and Charlie Sexton (the heart-throb on the left) were sizzling guitarists who stepped up and rocked. These guys (Stu Kimball and Denny Harron) hardly kick it in and spend most of the time watching Bob, as if they were afraid to miss a turn. There doesn't seem to be much joy, either -- Charlie and Larry would always be smiling at Tony, or whatever, and seemed to have a good time. Who knows, maybe it's just Bob wanting a different sound -- less garage-rock and more R&B. They played with more confidence then last year's Paramount shows, I'll give them that. This guy Donnie Herron on pedal, violin, and banjo seems to have been elevated in the band. His sound is turned up and Bob seemed to be giving the cues to him. I can't tell if George Recile is a good drummer or not, and my favorite thing about the bass player is the way Bob introduces him - -- "Tony Gahr-nya." He's been introducing Tony Garnier on Bass for 20 years now. We skipped "Watchtower" to try and get around back and catch Bob getting on his bus. No luck -- the bus was in a secure area. Our luck turned out to be great, however -- the five minutes ended up saving us hours because we were about the last car to get through a flooded Highway 101. The rest of the poor souls were diverted through God-Knows-where. Robert Kustel Review by Mitch Meyer The whole setting at the Santa Rosa show was special. It had to be one of the best settings imaginable for a Dylan show, and he and the band rose to the occasion with a great performance. While Stockton the night before was very good, the whole experience last night was magical. Stockton is in the Central Valley, which is mainly agricultural, Bible Belt, and conservative. The hall was a brand new, generic sports arena downtown, with no particular character. Everyone had to stop and spread their arms for a pat down search as they entered. It all felt a bit too much like America in 2006. There was a lot of tension in the crowd because everyone in the first 25 rows or so on the floor stood up from their folding chairs as soon as the show started, but there were various people around who didn't want to stand and were loudly complaining during the show. Occasionally, an usher would tell people near the aisle to sit down, but everyone refused because the people in front of them were still standing. The people who wanted to sit then got angrier. It was all not very conducive to focusing in on the performance. Dylan was intense and focused as usual. I had to admire his guts and integrity to re-work "She Belongs to Me" so radically, with the bizarre melodic innovation of singing the last note of each verse real high, and then bringing it down to a baritone. All on the same note! I don't think I've ever heard anyone sing like that, and with his less than stellar voice, it was truly jarring. But I admired his guts to do it because he wanted to give it a try. The bleachers were mainly full but almost everyone was sitting still throughout the show. You didn't get the feeling that many people in the seats were real intense Dylan fans. It seemed more like a matter of taking in a show by a famous name at the brand new arena here in our small city. All in all, Stockton was a good show, but there was not much electricity in the air. Dylan and the band seemed to be a real work in progress with lots of moments that didn't jell among some that did. Santa Rosa was a very different scene. It went to the opposite extreme of having virtually no seats in a plain airplane hanger-type building. It was like a college field house, just a simple rounded roof going straight back, just a purely functional, basic space. This meant that everyone had to stand. No disputes or arguments. I was about 10 rows back from the stage in front of Dylan. There was no security to speak of and people could do as they pleased. And Santa Rosa is another world culturally from Stockton: in the heart of Grateful Dead, yoga, organic, wine country, and way to the left of the mainstream Democratic Party. The crowd looked totally hip and was obviously full of fans who know and revere Dylan's work. (How many more scenes like this still exist in America, and what about 10 years from now if things keep going the way they're going?) From the beginning, the difference in atmosphere showed. The audience was moving and rocking from the first note and the group had to sense the energy. As the concert progressed, the band seemed to get tighter and they started feeling that they were hitting their stride. Every song clicked. Donny Herron, standing right behind Dylan on pedal steel and watching his every move, started to smile as he played with a look like, "This is starting to really come together now." Denny Freeman was more consistently on target with his solos than the night before. Highlights for me were "Lonesome Day Blues," "It's Alright, Ma," "Till I Fell in Love with You" (great swampy blues vibe), "Boots of Spanish Leather," and a beautiful and heartfelt "Don't Think Twice." "High Water," with the driving banjo is always a killer and I was even able to get into LARS this time, with Stu burning on his first solos of the night after being relegated to a rather tame rhythm guitar the rest of the show. The most intriguing Dylan moment was on the very last notes of the main set, as they were finishing "Summer Days." All night long, Dylan, as usual, was totally emotionless, sauntering around coolly between each song, but with no change of expression. As that last song of the main set wound to a close, Dylan looked over at George and suddenly burst into total laughter . which lasted for about two seconds and then he resumed his emotionless expression as he turned and walked off the stage before the encores. Was this a response to something that George did as the song ended, or was Dylan not able to contain his joy any longer about the performance? We'll never know, but he's always one intriguing guy to watch up close. It felt like everyone left the building feeling like they had just seen an awesome and explosive performance. I would rank the impact higher than any of the three Oakland shows last year or two of the three Bay Area shows in 2004 (the UC-Berkeley show that year also reached great heights with a terrific perormance by Dylan and a superb set list). This group is able to jell and reach more powerful levels than I had previously imagined. Mitch Meyer Review by Colin Selig Tonight's performance in Santa Rosa was one of the best Bob has given us in northern California in recent years. It was an inspirational event, up there with San Jose in '98 and the Santa Cruz shows in '00. This show was cracking right from the opening notes of 'Maggie's Farm,' with each song significantly improved from the previous night's performance in Stockton. This band is solitifying well. If you want to know what's going on musically I recommend reading James Strohecker's review of the Reno show. Thankfully Bob is encouraging both Denny and Donnie to step out, and each are making terrific contributions to the sound. Great banjo on 'Highwater.' There were so many highlights. We got absolutely captivating beautiful versions of 'Don't Think Twice, It's All Right' and 'Boots of Spanish Leather.' The ballads are so sweet. Bob sounds rested. Lyrics are clear and he's delivering each line like he means it. If you have tickets to this tour you are in for a treat. Safe travels Bob. I miss you already. Colin Selig Review by Terry Way A Rainy Night In Rosa Coming out of the rain and walking into the The Grace Pavillion I felt like we were entering an airplane hanger. This was one large rectangular Quonset building that was nicely packed, standing room only with eager fans. Sliding into position somewhere in the center quarter of the floor, it wasn't long before the familiar introduction began. From the opening lines of Maggie's Farm, it was obvious the sound was going to be very nice. Bob's vocals were clear and up front. The mix on the rest of the band was great as well. Bob's new organ sound used throughout the show had qualities that reminded my ears of Levon Helm from the Basement Tapes sessions to Ray Manzarek of the Doors at times. Other times he sounded more like a drunken organ grinder playing background riffs to a circus sideshow. The stage and curtains were elegantly lit and made for a visual treat. The band sounded tight and relaxed and Bob seemed quite content. High Water was a show highlight and I got chicken skin thinking of this being played in post Katrina New Orleans. It will be fun to watch this Tour develop. Cheers! T. Way Santa Cruz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:22:53 -0400 From: "Tortorici, Frank" Subject: Don Alias obit from 4/5 NY Times Don Alias, 66, Percussionist and Sideman, Is Dead=20 Don Alias, a percussionist who had a long career as a sought-after sideman, working with an illustrious array of artists in jazz and pop including Nina Simone, Miles Davis and Joni Mitchell, died on March 28 at his home in Manhattan. He was 66. Skip to next paragraph =20 =20 Jack Vartoogian/FrontRowPhotos Don Alias in a tribute to Jaco Pastorius at the JVC Jazz Festival in 2005.=20 His death was announced by Melanie Futorian, his companion, who said the cause was under investigation.=20 Born Charles Donald Alias to Caribbean parents in New York, Mr. Alias liked to say that he learned percussion on the streets, picking up the techniques of Cuban and Puerto Rican hand drummers.=20 While in high school, he enlisted as a conga player with the Eartha Kitt Dance Foundation, which offered classes at a Y.M.C.A. Ms. Kitt herself took him along to the 1957 Newport Jazz Festival, where he performed with the Dizzy Gillespie Orchestra, his first professional experience. At the urging of his family, Mr. Alias (pronounced uh-LIE-ess) studied biology at Gannon College in Erie, Pa., and the Carnegie Institute for Biochemistry in Boston. Playing in Boston clubs by night, he met students from the Berklee School of Music, most notably the bassist Gene Perla. It was Mr. Perla who got Mr. Alias a job as a drummer with Ms. Simone, even though he had no experience with a full drum kit. He handled the challenge and eventually became Ms. Simone's musical director. In 1969, his work in her ensemble caught the attention of Miles Davis, who was then developing the hazy jazz-rock that would suffuse his album "Bitches Brew." Hired as an auxiliary percussionist for the album, Mr. Alias ended up playing a trap-set part, along with Jack DeJohnette, on the track "Miles Runs the Voodoo Down." His lean and loosely syncopated beat, inspired by New Orleans parade music, is one of the album's most distinctive rhythms.=20 Mr. Alias played the role of trap drummer again on a 1979 concert tour with Joni Mitchell, in a band that included the saxophonist Michael Brecker, the guitarist Pat Metheny and the bassist Jaco Pastorius. A live recording from the tour, "Shadows and Light," is often cited as a favorite among musicians.=20 Mr. Alias was the first-call percussionist for a host of other artists as well, including the singer Roberta Flack, the alto saxophonist David Sanborn (with whom he toured as recently as February) and the pianist Herbie Hancock. As a conga player, Mr. Alias could augment a rhythm section in a way that was urgent but never intrusive.=20 He also had a hand in forming two bands: Stone Alliance, an electric fusion project with Mr. Perla and the saxophonist Steve Grossman, and Kebekwa, a percussion ensemble based in Montreal. Kebekwa was short-lived, but several years ago Stone Alliance reunited after a two-decade hiatus. The group has three recent live albums on the Mambo Maniacs label.=20 In addition to Ms. Futorian, Mr. Alias is survived by his mother, Violet Richardson Alias; his son, Charles Donald Alias Jr.; his daughter, Kimberlee Marisa Alias; and four grandchildren.=20 =20 =20 =20 Frank Tortorici Associate Director, Communications/Media Relations The Conference Board (212) 339-0231 =20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:24:50 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Bob Dylan/NJC I saw Dylan in Feb. '02 and he was playing with a full band and was in great form. They also played over 2 and 1/2 hours. I am planning on seeing him again on this tour. Is he playing with Merle Haggard? I had seen that on the concert promotion but checked the venue site and Merle's name was not on there. Any info out there on this? Mike NP: Azure Ray - If You Fall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:27:20 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Chris Thomas King Does Joni Hi dear Paz, I searched for his name and I definitely remember him from "Oh Brother Where Art Thou"! Thank you so much for sharing this story. What a wonder that the CD survived! "Don't it always seem to go..." (It's also nice to see you in Joni-land again dear friend) Love, Sherelle Paz wrote Hi Joni Fans. In last friday's Lagniappe Section of the Times Picayune there was an article about Chris Thomas King (actor musician from Oh Brother Where Art Thou and son of Baton Rouge Blues Man Tabby Thomas). In the article it mentions the following: The week before Katrina, King had recorded the Joni Mitchell standard "Big Yellow Taxi" at Ultrasonic Studios. He planned to finish mixing the track the following week, but floodwater in the Washington Avenue studio ruined the master tape. King had left with a CD containing a rough mix of the song. When his family made their last-minute dash to the airport, he forgot it in the glove compartment of his SUV which remained at his house. The SUV filled with water, but the CD survived. King realized such lyrics as "don't know what you got till it's gone" now had fresh significance. Best Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:28:02 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Song- Dear Mr President (Pink & Indigo Girls) NJC http://www.radionewsamerica.com/media/kynd/president.mp3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Bob Dylan/NJC hi Mike: http://bobdylan.com/live/ Em - --- MIKE HICKS wrote: > I saw Dylan in Feb. '02 and he was playing with a full band and was > in great form. They also played over 2 and 1/2 hours. I am planning > on seeing him again on this tour. Is he playing with Merle Haggard? > I had seen that on the concert promotion but checked the venue site > and Merle's name was not on there. Any info out there on this? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:37:11 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Favorite among Joni's guitar licks I've got a bunch of faves: 1. Intro/Cotton Avenue...all of it. I think it's her best guitar playing. 2. Wolf That Lives In Lindsay...the harmonics are 2Df. 3. For The Roses...gotta love that sixth string detuned to low G. 4. Live versions of "Just Like This Train." She's the whole band. 5. Tiger Bones...mesmerizing, in spite of the VG. 6. Refuge Of The Roads, Song for Sharon and Hejira (Hejira/Shadows and Light versions)...the Ibanez George Benson and Roland Jazz Chorus amp combo still is a signature sound: insular and personally intimate, brilliantly devised in complement to the compositions and further proof of Joni's genius. CC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Page describes Joni, metaphorically - --- Doug wrote: > Here's the lyrics, check the last verse > > Going To California > Led Zeppelin > To find a queen without a king, Joni: I had a king in a tenement castle > They say she plays guitar and cries and sings... la > la la > Ride a white mare in the footsteps of dawn > Tryin' to find a woman who's never, never, never > been born. Joni: And I feel like I'm just being born, like a shiny light breaking in the storm > Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams, Joni: There's a man who's been out sailing in a decade full of dreams... There's a man who climbed a mountain and he's calling out her name. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:57:45 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Most Valuable Joni Item I have the hat box also, and yes the cd is damaged due to scooting around in the box. I have collected some stuff off ebay. My most cherished item is a 24 K Gold cd of Hejira. (I am embarrassed to say how much I paid for it) I also have a 24K Gold copy of Court and Spark, Blue, and Wild Things Run Fast. I have a signed copy of Hejira and Court and Spark, and a photo album from London Wembley concert in 1983. (my wife is a good sport) Mike NP: Blackplastics - My Stint As A Volunteer Fireman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:17:46 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re:New Sonya Kitchell CD drops njc Hi Julius, I love your enthusiasm for Sonya Kitchell! I am so glad I had a chance to see her at Carnegie Hall! Looks like I was a part of history there along with everyone else who attended!!! I'm going to check out the article now! Love, Sherelle Julius wrote: Sonya's on the verge of being going bigtime, so much larger than life. See video of her performance at SXSW (and see me in the near-front of the audience) and hear her interviewed...on the front page of the New York Times, in their new front-page video section: http://www.nytimes.com/ There's also an interview with Neil Young from SXSW there, too, if you delve just a bit deeper. Sonya's new CD "Words Come Back to Me" dropped yesterday to much fanfare. Get it at Starbucks, or Amazon. I like it very much. Sonya just finished a collaboration with Ben Harper. Video soon on her website. I've got Sonya Kitchell pins, posters and swag such as that that I'll mail free to anyone interested, plus I'll give away a souvenir CD of the "single" from the new album at random to anyone who might show interest. And Sonya's on tour, should you be so inclined. She rocks, imho. Congratulations, Sonya Kitchell! Wishing you a world of success. - - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:27:10 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: brokeback mountain revisited, njc Hi Mack the knife, You really cut to the chase here. Most excellent post in my opinion... a real work of art! Love, Laura In a message dated 4/5/2006 10:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:39:42 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: 'Brokeback' revisited -- njc Vince wrote: The only time Ennis' > anger flared against Alma was when she reduced Jack and Ennis' > relationship to fuck buddies. - - --First of all, these are fictional characters. The only one that could know their motivations would be the author, if the author even knew. Have to disagree with you on this one Vince, respectfully. I think he was angry because she knew and she told him that she had known. He didn't want to be found out and to have the mother, your (ex) wife tell you, in such tones, that she knows (knew) all along what you were doing. Pretty traumatic business, emasculating a revelation. What if she told others? What if she told his daughters? His lie was over and she knew. Somewhat irrational to be angry about it but human beings do react that way. That was my take on that scene. > You should. We have been great friends a long time. I don't think I > ever noticed you being wrong before, but you are in this post, Lori. - - --I don't think she is wrong anymore than you or others that liked, loved this movie are. These are fictional characters. Subjective whether or not she is wrong. If that is the impression, what the movie gave her, she got from watching that flick, then it is right (for her). > > Many have claimed the emotional reality of Brokeback. Some have not, > and have put down the movie (and thus, the beautiful short story) > because it does not match the concepts that they have lived by. I find > that very limiting. If we are not open to accepting the realities of > others, if we put down and think of less of characters in a book/movie > and for the arts lovers here, any character who expresses those > realities, then we are defining others by our own parochialism and > narrowness. - - --No, we are discussing a movie, not people, not living human beings, fictional characters made up in the minds of writers, the main being a woman I do believe. > > J. Kendel Johnson in this place has written eloquently of how he found > his place in this story. So has Mark in Seattle. So have others. So > have I. If our lives, and our identification with the story of Jack and > Ennis on whatever level, does not match the heroic archetypes of others, > than whose problem is it, ours, or the others? And what have these > holders of heroic archetypes done in their own lives that we should be > so awed and cowed that we can thus put down Brokeback and its characters? - - --No one here has put down anyone. We are discussing a movie. > Some of us see art in places where > it is and others have no artistic taste at all - oops, I meant to say, - - --An artist realizes that some will appreciate their art, others will not. Just because someone doesn't like something another person does, does not mean they have no taste. One could argue that anyone that listens to Eminem has no taste. Couldn't be farther from the truth. We all have different tastes and each and every thing affects us all differently. > fine, we can live our friends being wrong, and you weren't moved by > stunning acting, then fine, same thing! :-) - - --Found the movie good, not great, performances average, not great. Perhaps that is just me. I'll live with my taste and let others have theirs. One should not condemn another for finding fault with a movie, fictional characters because of what the viewer has had in their life experience that led them to draw that conclusion, anymore than someone should be condemned for appreciating art, a movie because of their experiences. I am glad you enjoyed the movie Vince and it touched you so much. > But fuck buddies? Rejecting the truth of some because "that love didn't > transcend quite enough?" Frankly, that thought, expressed by several > here, pisses me off. That is very judgmental. Show me your > transcendent love. - - --This was a movie. We judge movies. That is why some are hits and others are flops. Some of my favorites were great flops; they still touched me. Whether or not someone else liked, likes, them doesn't affect me one way or the other. movie in the JMDL has featured the same thing: we did not like the story > of Jack and Ennis, and the movie was not good. - - --That is how some people saw it. Not a crime, most certainly not a personal attack on any living human being. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:34:43 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: New Sonya Kitchell CD drops njc Wow! Just heard her interview! What a wise person for her years! What a fantastcally beautiful voice and what a great songwriter!!! This has to be the reason why she was picked for Joni's Tribute Concert!!! Wow! I'm glad she was able to get things going at seventeen. I'm thinking of Janis Ian's "At Seventeen". I moved to L.A. when I was seventeen to pursue a music career and I felt most alive artistically at that time. I am thankful that everything has come back full circle but it's nice to be right there when you are at that artistic place. Sonya speaks about that in her interview which I thought was great!!! Oh by the way, Julius, I have an article to send you from the Times as a keepsake!!! Someone gave it to me for the content and I almost fell over when I saw it was the same event you went to! Love, Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:47:37 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: sacred earth / sky and brokeback mountain "Back in my home town They would have cleared the floor Just to watch the rain come down! They're such sky oriented people Geared to changing weather" Some of my favorite lyrics. Wonder what Joni meant? The lyrics are confusing for me now because like in Brokeback Mountain, the direction of "back" might mean they really were thinking of another sky in a different town, perhaps south of Canada where the Big Sky lives. Bisky people, you know the kind who have dual sky orientation depending on changes in the weather... the kind who are always out on some borderline, some mark of in between and really shouldn't be called gay even though they act like they are when they are dizzy on the dance floor. I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, I am, I am, I am, I am!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:48:07 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: New Sonya Kitchell CD drops njc Glad to see Janis mentioned. I saw her Saturday night at a very intimate venue and she is still at the top of her form, if not better. You couldn't spent 26 dollars for a more enjoyable evening. Jerry > Wow! Just heard her interview! What a wise person for her years! What a > fantastcally beautiful voice and what a great songwriter!!! This has to be > the reason why she was picked for Joni's Tribute Concert!!! Wow! I'm glad > she was able to get things going at seventeen. I'm thinking of Janis Ian's > "At Seventeen". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: that thread about the earth, njc Cassy, It means the same to me. I thought the thread was about the planet and not necessarily about pollution. I've been wrong once or twice before though. Jim L'Hommedieu Cassy said in part, >Interestingly, I never took that to mean we couldn't see those things because of environmental issues. I took it to mean that we, the cities, forests and highways are just specks relative to the universe.> Joni said, >>You couldn't see these cold water restrooms, or this baggage overload. Westbound and rolling taking refuge in the roads. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:18:18 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Jonifest in Houston! Oh my God folks there's a Jonifest happening this Saturday night right here in my own home town!!! Who'da thunk it!? OK it's yalls turn, get yer butts on down here to Tx & see me & let's go! Woo hoo!!! db - -----Original Message----- From: Connie Mims [mailto:conniemims@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:32 AM To: Connie Mims Subject: JoniFest this Saturday at Habitat House I apologize if you receive this notice twice. For fans of Joni Mitchell and her music, this Saturday I'm performing with a bunch of Houston musicians, singers and songwriters our favorite Joni tunes, at Selia Qynn's Habitat House. Things start off with a Potluck Supper (bring something to share) at 6:30pm and the music gets started around 7:30pm. Donation is $10 and proceeds benefit the Post-Polio Health Organization. Joni Mitchell was a childhood victim of the disease. For directions, info, etc., please visit Selia's site at: http://www.selia.com/houseconcerts.html This will be one of the few solo gigs I'll be doing for the next few months, and I look forward to seeing everyone come out for a wonderful and memorable night of music from one of my all-time favorite singer/songwriters. Peace, Connie Mims http://www.conniemims.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "NortheastJonifest" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:12:24 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: BREAKING NEWS I didn't use njc because it will affect all of us. Scooter Libby testified that President Bush authorized the CIA leak to VP Dick to tell Libby to leak the name. Federal crime as well as treason I believe. Good luck at peeling back the layers of these onions, to get to the truth. Stay tuned, it gets brighter by the minute. Peace Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:20:28 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: fictional characters njc Fictional characters. I should have known that in literature classes and theatre classes in college. I should have known that in discussing opera and Joni's music. I am so stupid. Vince - -------------- Original message -------------- > - --No, we are discussing a movie, not people, not living human beings, > fictional characters made up in the minds of writers, the main being a woman > I do believe. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) From: dsknyc05 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS NJC - --- MINGSDANCE@aol.com wrote: > Scooter Libby testified that President Bush > authorized the CIA leak to VP > Dick to tell Libby to leak the name. Federal crime > as well as treason I believe. > Good luck at peeling back the layers of these > onions, to get to the truth. The truth is finally coming to light. I recall Bush saying that if someone in his administration had leaked classified information, which is illegal, they'd be "taken care of." It'll be interesting to see what excuses Repubs come up with for this one. In Court Filings, Cheney Aide Says Bush Approved Leak By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: April 6, 2006 Filed at 12:58 p.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors President Bush authorized the leak of sensitive intelligence information about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA leak case. Debra Shea, in NYC Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:37:10 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item I would pick my memories of her two concerts I attended, particularly in 2000 when my seat was so close I could see every detail of her face. Object: I have two promo matchbooks with the cover of TI on them. I got them off ebay. When I showed them to my wife, she smiled politely, took them and set them by her candle. She actually thought she was suppose to use them. :) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:02:12 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: fictional characters njc From: "vince" <<< Fictional characters. I should have known that in literature classes and theatre classes in college. I should have known that in discussing opera and Joni's music. >>> It's that suspension of disbelief! If the story tellers and movie makers have done their job we believe the characters are real. <<< I am so stupid. >>> Not at all, Vince. You are one of the believers, one who got caught up in the characters. Warmly, Cassy NP: Pray Your Gods - Toad the Wet Sprocket ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:03:35 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: sacred earth / sky and brokeback mountain weather is a big deal in some parts...especially for farmers... also...on the prairies..not much going on..so any weather change would be of great interest...a break in the monotony. Bree PS. when you don't have nuttin to talk about ..we always have the weather. > >"Back in my home town >They would have cleared the floor >Just to watch the rain come down! >They're such sky oriented people >Geared to changing weather" > > > Some of my favorite lyrics. Wonder what Joni meant? > > The lyrics are confusing for me now because like in Brokeback >Mountain, >the direction of "back" might mean they really were thinking of another >sky >in a different town, perhaps south of Canada where the Big Sky lives. >Bisky >people, you know the kind who have dual sky orientation depending on >changes >in the weather... the kind who are always out on some borderline, some >mark >of in between and really shouldn't be called gay even though they act like >they are when they are dizzy on the dance floor. I'm right, I'm right, >I'm >right, I'm right, I am, I am, I am, I am!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:07:52 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS NJC In a message dated 4/6/06 10:52:12 AM, dsknyc05@yahoo.com writes: It'll be interesting to see what excuses Repubs come up with for this one. In Court Filings, Cheney Aide Says Bush Approved Leak By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS - ------ My guess is that the likes of the excerpt below will be the quick and dirty spin, Debra. This until public reaction is gauged. Because after all / that's what scapegoats are for: CBS News' Beverley Lumpkin explains that while it is "well within the power of the president (and arguably the vice president, too) to declassify a government document unilaterally b& this is not only embarrassing to the president and vice president in tying them to the dirty business. It's also very damaging to Scooter Libby's defense strategy that he was so busy he couldn't possibly have remembered knowing about Wilson and his wife." - --- - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:09:36 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: sacred earth / sky and brokeback mountain > "Back in my home town > They would have cleared the floor > Just to watch the rain come down! > They're such sky oriented people > Geared to changing weather" > > > Some of my favorite lyrics. Wonder what Joni meant? Some of my faves, too. I'm sure Joni meant more than one thing (as she almost always does), but simply put: On the prairie you can see forever. You can literally see a storm coming a hour or more away. North Dakota (where I was living when DJRD was released) is like that, but I'd forgotten until I visited last July, for the first time in 26 years. It's amazing. And being that many (most?) people on the prairie are farmers, they're very tuned into the weather as well. What happens in the sky matters a lot there. (Elsewhere too, but it doesn't seem as profound as it does on the prairie.) Lori ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #131 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------