From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #118 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 30 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 118 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Top Voices [Patti Witten ] Joni's Supposed Comments [] Re: Top 10, no top 20 ["ron" ] Re: Top 10, No Top 20 NJC ["ron" ] sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie ["Patti Parlette" ] american Idol, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: american Idol, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie [Catherine McKay ] american Idol, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: american Idol, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] FW: Message from Website ["Les Irvin" ] Re: sherrelle smith njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: american Idol, njc [Catherine McKay ] Don Alias ["Les Irvin" ] njc, new Ani Difranco CD for Muller ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni's Supposed Comments ["mack watson-bush" ] Fun With Joni's Photos [Nuriel Tobias ] (NJC) Picking up steam ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 ["Lori Fye" ] Re: american Idol, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: A very brave woman, njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Joni on Cass Elliot show [Bob Muller ] Re: Don Alias [Michael Paz ] Cristina Branco [Scott Price ] Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Summertime [Deb Messling ] Another LOTC ? [Bob Muller ] Re: Summertime [Bob Muller ] Re:Top Vocalists [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: top vocalists [PassScribe@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:36:04 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Re: Top Voices In no order, forgetting many... Maddy Pryor Kate Bush Terry Roche Joni Mitchell Sarah McLaughlin Shawn Colvin John Wetton Aretha Franklin Ella Fitzgerald Frank Sinatra Roy Orbison Patsy Cline KD Lang Mary J Blige Luther Vandross All Green Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:56:38 -0800 From: Subject: Joni's Supposed Comments Hi Kate, "that is so great to hear that Joni sometimes sings in small cafes..." I have been seeing little mentions of this (mostly in Los Angeles magazine) from time to time now for a number of years. I read another mention a couple of months ago about her showing up at some new place in Hollywood. Have also heard from people that she even karaokes sometimes! I think it it just incredibly cool. Gives me the sense that she is real down to earth and feels comfortable in her "neighborhood." What a kick it would be to happen to see her in some little place singing one night! I wonder if she may have been doing this for years. There was a wonderful interview I read in the JMDL library awhile back where she talked about showing up to some little bar in Hollywood back in the 70s and taking turns playing the piano. Also, I think it was Chris (CC Karma) here who has posted that she used to sing at the old Nucleaus Nuance club on Melrose in the 80s. "I imagine joni to be an independent (politically speaking)" From the bits and pieces I've heard from her over the years, I think so, too! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:45:02 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 hi this has been a fascinating topic - some amazing picks well i guess i call them amazing 'cause i agree with them :-) i have had a wonderful time going through the music - itunes is just so perfect for exercises like this. in no particular order joni mitchell - obviously joan baez - a huge part of my life, shaped my music tastes, shaped a lot of my ideologies, and sang some of my all time favorite songs - the magic wood, joe hill, christmas in washington, ellas danzen solas, donna donna, sweet sir galahad, prison trilogy, where's my apple pie, please come to boston, & so many more emmylou harris - has recorded some of the most perfect music i ever heard alison krauss - i nearly flipped when i heard her singing "down to the river" on the "o brother" soundtrack. can you believe that t\her albums have not been released here yet? mary chapin carpenter - as john jennings says on her dvd - her voice is an invitation to intimacy. mary coughlan - i know nothing about her (tho im sure i would if i googled her). a friend gave me a copy of her "best of " album. about 8 years later i still havent progressed beyond the single album. strong, raspy, just a little spooky - great stuff,. michelle shocked - a firm favourite tanita tikaram - on 11 kinds of loneliness - she sounds like she has speech impediment - such a great album. janis ian - always liked her for years. then someone here posted the sale at her website & i stocked up (15 albums) i am just stunned by her singing, and her writing. she really is one of the greats. neil young - legend chrissie hynde - i can still remember the first time i heard brass in pocket - way, way back on tv. still great rory block - strong, powerfull, haunting, emotional. also one of the greatest acoustic blues guitarists around. probably my second favourite after joni. sass jordan - gotta play this loud - really, really loud. nothing better when im tensed up, or slightly depressed. i picked this one up cause i liked the looks of the cover. play it in a car with a big system & just get so locked in & transported. i bought this 'cause the cover appealed to me - never heard of her anywhere else - & i just dont understand why. shawn colvin - what can you say. possibly one of the most talented singers i have ever heard - but somehow her music doesnt quite live up to her voice. its very, very good - but given her vocal talents i would expect something totally overwhelming eddi reader - loved her ever since i heard her with fairground attraction - even better on her own. simple soul is a great, great album gillian welch - so talented - her & david rawlings make perfect music on so many levels. happy rhodes - amazing range, great songwriter jimi hendrix - everyone raves about his guitar work. they seem to overlook that he was such a great writer, and singer as well. annie herring - one from the gospel side of things. annie has recorded some of the most passionate, emotional, solid music ever, both as a solo, and with second chapter of acts margaret becker - another gospel singer. she has sung everything, from her rock roots, to kinda normal pop stuff, to jazz, and done it all with class and substance. ron np - mark heard - straw man ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:52:45 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Top 10, No Top 20 NJC oooops - i cant believe i forgot her from my list one of my all time ever top singers - whose music is limited to one little 6 song cd i must have listened to a thousand times - and has never failed to move me - giselle hawkins ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:50:34 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie Chelsea Mornin' to you! Here is what Carly herself has to say about that incident at the Fez. Scroll down to the fourth item: http://www.carlysimon.com/askcarly/archives/archive-042002.htm I love how Carly speaks to her fans. Wouldn't it be loverly if that were ever to happen here? (Hey, you can't revoke my soul for trying! ) Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:58:15 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: american Idol, njc There are things that are good about the show. . but, but, but I just do not like the way the contestants are talked to . . I just don't believe that you should tell them how horrible their performance was in the manner that they speak to them (partic. Simon). I believe in being truthful. . but you don't have to be mean. . and well, I don't know how to describe it right now. . the thing is, the more I happen to see it, the more use to this I get. . our society accepts this harsh feedback.. Now, I am not some bleeding heart so don't you go thinking that. . I like to tell it like it is. but not like that. it is rather rude we are almost immune now to this kind of thing. . the show is not for me. . sometimes I see it because others have it on. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:34:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: american Idol, njc - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > There are things that are good about the show. . > > but, but, but I just do not like the way the > contestants are talked to . . > > I just don't believe that you should tell them how > horrible their > performance was in the manner that they speak to > them (partic. Simon). > > I believe in being truthful. . but you don't have > to be mean. . > Yep. Whatever happened to constructive criticism? I think it's possible to let people down in a loving way - - not that I'm very good at that, either. But I guess that doesn't make good TV. Everyone loves to hate Simon, but what makes him the expert? I don't watch the show either, but catch bits of it when passing through the TV room. My daugher is addicted to that stuff. I'm not into mean either. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Chelsea Mornin' to you! > > Here is what Carly herself has to say about that > incident at the Fez. > Scroll down to the fourth item: > > http://www.carlysimon.com/askcarly/archives/archive-042002.htm > > I love how Carly speaks to her fans. Wouldn't it be > loverly if that were > ever to happen here? (Hey, you can't revoke my > soul for trying! ) > You get to keep your soul, baby. Yeah, I enjoyed reading Carley's responses. She's very gracious. The world needs more grace. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:50:59 -0800 (PST) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: Joni's Supposed Comments I worship the ground Joni Mitchell walks on. I agree with David Crosby that history will look back on her as "the Shakespeare of our times". But I cannot be sure that encountering her in live performance today would not be a very saddening experience for me. The destruction of her voice through decades of chain smoking is a tragedy that stabs me in the heart every time I think about it. And I think about it quite frequently. Sitting in auditoriums recently listening to the still-vibrant, full ranged voices of Joan Baez and Judy Collins -- Judy, in particular -- just twisted the knife that much further. Joni's voice was so deteriorated on her last two albums that, after initially listening to investigate and take in the work she had done, I have not put them back in my CD player, her voice so weak and her careful tiptoeing around the places it can no longer take her grieve me so. I have literally wondered from time to time recently if she has much of any voice left at all. I don't know when Rosanna Arquette taped her interview with Joni, but the excerpts in All We Are Saying were at least encouraging on that front. I've also wondered if the state of her voice wasn't the greater part of why she didn't show at the Carnegie Hall tribute in February. I certainly don't know that, and I don't judge Joni as wrong or bad for the choices she's made, but, particularly if the decline of her voice has continued at the pace that's easily observable in recent years, I'm not sure that I wouldn't just sit there and blubber, were she to be singing in front of me today. J kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Kate, "that is so great to hear that Joni sometimes sings in small cafes..." I have been seeing little mentions of this (mostly in Los Angeles magazine) from time to time now for a number of years. I read another mention a couple of months ago about her showing up at some new place in Hollywood. Have also heard from people that she even karaokes sometimes! I think it it just incredibly cool. Gives me the sense that she is real down to earth and feels comfortable in her "neighborhood." What a kick it would be to happen to see her in some little place singing one night! I wonder if she may have been doing this for years. There was a wonderful interview I read in the JMDL library awhile back where she talked about showing up to some little bar in Hollywood back in the 70s and taking turns playing the piano. Also, I think it was Chris (CC Karma) here who has posted that she used to sing at the old Nucleaus Nuance club on Melrose in the 80s. "I imagine joni to be an independent (politically speaking)" From the bits and pieces I've heard from her over the years, I think so, too! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:05:32 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: american Idol, njc Catherine says: >I'm not into mean either. I'm not into mean either. I'm not into mean either. I'm not into mean either. : -) for some reason this struck me funny. . (like I wanted to say , "If you are not into mean, what are you into?". . or "all this time I thought you were into mean," Catherine.) just excuse me. . I am on this fine line lately on the fine lline on the fine line Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:23:11 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Yes..good choices by all... My favorite voices: ( in no particular order ) Joni Mama Cass Karen Carpenter Ann Wilson Robert Plant Judy Garland Luther Vandross Donna Summer Vince Gill Eva Cassidy Donald Fagen ...just real differnet Marvin Gaye Stevie Ray Vaughn Janis Joplin Rosemary Clooney Ella Fitzgerald Chaka Khan Bing Crosby Patti Austin Judy Collins >hi > > >this has been a fascinating topic - some amazing picks well i guess i call >them amazing 'cause i agree with them :-) >in no particular order > >joni mitchell - obviously > >joan baez - a huge part of my life, shaped my music tastes, shaped a lot of >my ideologies, and sang some of my all time favorite songs - the magic >wood, joe hill, christmas in washington, ellas danzen solas, donna donna, >sweet sir galahad, prison trilogy, where's my apple pie, please come to >boston, & so many more > >emmylou harris - has recorded some of the most perfect music i ever heard > >alison krauss - i nearly flipped when i heard her singing "down to the >river" on the "o brother" soundtrack. can you believe that t\her albums >have not been released here yet? > >mary chapin carpenter - as john jennings says on her dvd - her voice is an >invitation to intimacy. > >mary coughlan - i know nothing about her (tho im sure i would if i googled >her). a friend gave me a copy of her "best of " album. about 8 years later >i still havent progressed beyond the single album. strong, raspy, just a >little spooky - great stuff,. > >michelle shocked - a firm favourite > >tanita tikaram - on 11 kinds of loneliness - she sounds like she has speech >impediment - such a great album. > >janis ian - always liked her for years. then someone here posted the sale >at her website & i stocked up (15 albums) i am just stunned by her singing, >and her writing. she really is one of the greats. > >neil young - legend > >chrissie hynde - i can still remember the first time i heard brass in >pocket - way, way back on tv. still great > >rory block - strong, powerfull, haunting, emotional. also one of the >greatest acoustic blues guitarists around. probably my second favourite >after joni. > >sass jordan - gotta play this loud - really, really loud. nothing better >when im tensed up, or slightly depressed. i picked this one up cause i >liked the looks of the cover. play it in a car with a big system & just get >so locked in & transported. i bought this 'cause the cover appealed to me - >never heard of her anywhere else - & i just dont understand why. > >shawn colvin - what can you say. possibly one of the most talented singers >i have ever heard - but somehow her music doesnt quite live up to her >voice. its very, very good - but given her vocal talents i would expect >something totally overwhelming > >eddi reader - loved her ever since i heard her with fairground attraction - >even better on her own. simple soul is a great, great album > >gillian welch - so talented - her & david rawlings make perfect music on so >many levels. > >happy rhodes - amazing range, great songwriter > >jimi hendrix - everyone raves about his guitar work. they seem to overlook >that he was such a great writer, and singer as well. > >annie herring - one from the gospel side of things. annie has recorded some >of the most passionate, emotional, solid music ever, both as a solo, and >with second chapter of acts > >margaret becker - another gospel singer. she has sung everything, from her >rock roots, to kinda normal pop stuff, to jazz, and done it all with class >and substance. > > >ron >np - mark heard - straw man ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:38:28 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: american Idol, njc "If you can't stand the heat get thee out of the kitchen." But if one can't take the criticism then don't subject yourself to it. If getting mean means saying one looks like a blimp in burlap sack then I agree ...but if someone points out that your voice is JUST adequate and you are not star material..then I'm all for it. I do watch American Idol from time to time..I'm the "others" are watching...anyway..a lot of the contestants in the try outs obviously couldn't sing. Singing with the radio is a far far different thing than standing alone...all by yourself.....no nothing...just your voice. I find the show a good escapism. Bree > >Catherine says: > >>I'm not into mean either. > >I'm not into mean either. >I'm not into mean either. >I'm not into mean either. > > > >: -) >for some reason this struck me funny. . > >(like I wanted to say , "If you are not into mean, what are you into?". . > >or "all this time I thought you were into mean," Catherine.) > > > >just excuse me. . >I am on this fine line lately > >on the fine lline >on the fine line >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:40:37 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Message from Website Message from website, be sure to copy Lawrence's address on any replies. - -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Shapiro lawrenceshapiro@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Message from Contact Us page Hello, Does anyone have a video copy of Cass Elliot's 1969 television special which featured Joni? I'd be so pleased to see it if anyone has even a few minutes of this rarely viewed program. I'd also be pleased to make a video copy of the twenty minutes I have of Joni performing on television in 1970 for whoever might be able to point me in a direction regarding the Cass Elliot tv show. Many thanks, Lawrence Shapiro Vancouver, B.C. Canada P.S. I already checked the Cass Elliot website and posted messages there as well. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:20:16 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: sherrelle smith njc My dear Mack, I sat stunned as I read this post. Just to hear you say this is a reward beyond measure. Mack, you have taken a piece of my heart foerever and I am so blessed and thankful to know you. My stepsister just sent me an email saying that she had just spoken to a good friend's husband about me who has radio connections down in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia (my family is from there) and I will be calling him tonight. I got a positive response from the powers that be at the Temecula Valley Jazz Festival to submit a promotional package for their 2007 series. My daughter and I worked on a business plan when she came to visit last weekned so I'm really trying. Also, I got some airplay on Smooth Jazz 105.9 Sunday Brunch this past weekend. I didn't hear it but my coworker and friend did. She gave me a big hug. So if I can get these planets lined up right Mack, something may happen. The key is getting that second CD recorded. to remedy that, I'm just going to start out with one song that I was advised to record and release as a single by 70's singer William DeVaughn who heard it at my concert in Oct. 05'. I'll keep working on it as I can. Where there's a will, there's a way! Mack, I'll write to you off list as well. Just know that your words have touched my heart and that has already helped! Love, Sherelle Mack wrote: Many may have read my question to Sherrelle asking her why she wasn't on American Idol, as I have been watching it every week this year, in contrast to past years when I watched sporadically at best. I didn't watch last night for the performances were not getting better and, truthfully, I don't think many of them have much talent. 'Not what I call talent.' (Borrowed, of course) Being a true Libra I have to amend that and write that I find a couple have some talent but nothing to get upset or excited about. Sherrelle responded, being the sweetie she is, and wrote me that she was out of the age parameters for that show. She then offered me a cd of her music. I offered to pay her for it but she graciously sent it for free. I was looking forward to it but I do not like to not say what I think. It is very difficult for me. A character flaw? Perhaps. I wondered to myself what would I write to Sherelle if I didn't like it. What would I do if I didn't find her voice very good? The cd came in the mail today. I opened it and popped her into the player. Now, I am just pissed off. Why in the hell doesn't this woman have a contract? Why is someone this talented not on the airwaves for all to hear? This is not an average voice. This is talent, what I call talent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unique. I don't think I have heard a voice like it. Tod even liked it and he doesn't like anything I like. He said Sherelle reminded him of Sade or Oleta Adams. I heard some of it that reminded me a bit of Sarah Vaughn or Dinah Washington but for the most part it is truly itself, all Sherelle Smith. Damn girl, you've got it. Yea, you've got it, ALL. Do you have more? I'll pay. I think we should all get behind Sherelle and help her dreams come true. For goodness sakes, when I think of the bozos that are making big money out there singing and don't have an ounce of this voice it bothers me. Sherelle, I don't imagine there is anything a faggot nurse from Fort Worth Tx can do for your career but I'll help if I can honey. Tell me what to do. love, mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:38:32 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 Thanks for posting this Lori. Jeff & I watched it this weekend. Twice. A lot of questions posed that I think everyone should be open to hearing regardless of what you believe to be true. What a powerful piece done by these young kids. >It's long, more than an hour. Download it when you're able to do so, and watch it when you can. But be prepared: it's VERY DISTURBING. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:43:02 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Freddy Mercury..I remembered him after I had posted. >Yes..good choices by all... > > >My favorite voices: > >( in no particular order ) > > >Joni > >Mama Cass > >Karen Carpenter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:45:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: american Idol, njc - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > Catherine says: > > >I'm not into mean either. > > I'm not into mean either. > I'm not into mean either. > I'm not into mean either. > > > > : -) > for some reason this struck me funny. . > > (like I wanted to say , "If you are not into mean, > what are you into?". . > > or "all this time I thought you were into mean," > Catherine.) > I'm into meaning. Heh-heh. The deeper meaning. I'm aware that I have a mean streak, so I try to think about the things I say to other people and how they might be construed. I don't always succeed. Know what I mean? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:45:53 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Don Alias A message has come across the website stating that Don Alias was found dead in his home this morning. Can anyone confirm this? Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:55:05 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, new Ani Difranco CD for Muller Reading the news and it's not all bad.... I saw this in today's "Daily Campus" and immediately thought of you, Mr. Muller. (Ani Difranco, Carnegie Hall, music news, etc.) Although who am *I*, a mere jmocd'ed mortal, to tell *you*, Musik Meister, any music news? http://www.dailycampus.com/media/storage/paper340/news/2006/03/30/Focus/Difrancos.Carnegie.Hall.Concert.Cd.Released-1765982.shtml?norewrite200603301211&sourcedomain=www.dailycampus.com&mkey=2200900 Enjoy! Love, Patti P. P.S. Bob, you said you are "ready to show up at Ivory's door with a sleeping roll and a madman's soul"? Hey! You can't do that! You've got a piece of paper from the City Hall, keeping you tied and true! And Sylvia Hatchell (good luck, UNC!) makes me think of Sonya Kitchell (Hi Julius!) who makes me think of Joni Mitchell because it all comes down to you, Joni! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:11:43 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Don Alias Sadly, I think it is so. When you go to a webite _www.donalias.com_ (http://www.donalias.com) it shows a photograph of Don with these dates underneath 25 Dec 1939~28 Mar 2006 :~( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:33:30 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: american Idol, njc Bree wrote: "If you can't stand the heat get thee out of the kitchen." - ---I agree with Bree. These people knew the venue when they signed up. And some of them need to be told. Simon can be an asshole but Paula tells everyone they were 'great' and Randy has no taste. Has anyone else noticed the glaze in Abdul's eyes this season? Looks like a tranquilizer problem to me. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:26:41 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Joni's Supposed Comments J Kendel Johnson wrote: > But I cannot be sure that encountering her in live performance today would not be a very saddening experience for me. > > The destruction of her voice through decades of chain smoking is a tragedy that stabs me in the heart every time I think about it. And I think about it quite frequently. Sitting in auditoriums recently listening to the still-vibrant, full ranged voices of Joan Baez and Judy Collins -- Judy, in particular -- just twisted the knife that much further. - -----I actually prefer the older, gruffer voice. Has a bit of magic that I don't find in the younger voice, as fine a voice as it was. But have always liked gravelly voices with an edge, Janis for instance. mack > > Joni's voice was so deteriorated on her last two albums that, after initially listening to investigate and take in the work she had done, I have not put them back in my CD player, her voice so weak and her careful tiptoeing around the places it can no longer take her grieve me so. > > I have literally wondered from time to time recently if she has much of any voice left at all. I don't know when Rosanna Arquette taped her interview with Joni, but the excerpts in All We Are Saying were at least encouraging on that front. > > I've also wondered if the state of her voice wasn't the greater part of why she didn't show at the Carnegie Hall tribute in February. I certainly don't know that, and I don't judge Joni as wrong or bad for the choices she's made, but, particularly if the decline of her voice has continued at the pace that's easily observable in recent years, I'm not sure that I wouldn't just sit there and blubber, were she to be singing in front of me today. > > J > > > > kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Hi Kate, > > "that is so great to hear that Joni sometimes sings in small cafes..." > > I have been seeing little mentions of this (mostly in Los Angeles magazine) > from time to time now for a number of years. I read another mention a > couple of months ago about her showing up at some new place in Hollywood. > Have also heard from people that she even karaokes sometimes! I think it it > just incredibly cool. Gives me the sense that she is real down to earth and > feels comfortable in her "neighborhood." What a kick it would be to happen > to see her in some little place singing one night! > > I wonder if she may have been doing this for years. There was a wonderful > interview I read in the JMDL library awhile back where she talked about > showing up to some little bar in Hollywood back in the 70s and taking turns > playing the piano. Also, I think it was Chris (CC Karma) here who has > posted that she used to sing at the old Nucleaus Nuance club on Melrose in > the 80s. > > "I imagine joni to be an independent (politically speaking)" > > From the bits and pieces I've heard from her over the years, I think so, > too! > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: american Idol, njc Catherine wrote: << I'm aware that I have a mean streak, so I try to think about the things I say to other people and how they might be construed. What the HELL is that supposed to mean? --Smurf - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2"/min or less. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Fun With Joni's Photos A very good place to catch a glimps at lots of great Joni photos is by ussing Google's option "images". Here's the link, enjoy guys... http://images.google.co.il/images?q=joni+mitchell&hl=iw Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:23:28 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Picking up steam http://nymag.com/news/features/16464/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:54:08 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 >> It's long, more than an hour. Download it when you're able to do so, and >> watch it when you can. But be prepared: it's VERY DISTURBING. >> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 > Thanks for posting this Lori. Jeff & I watched it this weekend. Twice. A > lot of questions posed that I think everyone should be open to hearing > regardless of what you believe to be true. What a powerful piece done by > these young kids. Thanks for responding, Kate. You're the only one here to do so, and Em was the only one to respond on another list to which she and I belong. Makes me wonder if everyone else's head is firmly buried in the sand. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:59:27 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Hush the Chain Smokers? J Kendel Johnson wrote: "I agree with David Crosby that history will look back on her as "the Shakespeare of our times". That man was way high up on drugs when he said that, and probably still is. She isn't dead yet and they already speak of her as a folk singer who lived in the past. The Shakspeare of our times? He he! That'll be the day indeed! "The destruction of her voice through decades of chain smoking is a tragedy that stabs me in the heart every time I think about it. And I think about it quite frequently. Sitting in auditoriums recently listening to the still-vibrant, full ranged voices of Joan Baez and Judy Collins -- Judy, in particular -- just twisted the knife that much further." I just can't stand those singers who keep their voices so nice and neat and drink unboiled ages with garlic sauce and warmed up honey every morning after yoga. And you know guys, the voice is more than a musical instrument. "A poet can sing" sang Joni the poet, and by that she meant that her voice was the mirror of a human creature with it's falses and charms, and that if you ever get lost in Joni's journey as recorded on (How many, Bob?) albums, you would always have her voice as an avidence to BEING Joni Mitchell IN music, and not just "singing songs" BY Joni Mitchell to chuckle your knukles. "Joni's voice was so deteriorated on her last two albums that, after initially listening to investigate and take in the work she had done, I have not put them back in my CD player, her voice so weak and her careful tiptoeing around the places it can no longer take her grieve me so." I bet a million bucks that if she'd only made a studio album, Kiva like, with a band, a piano, and some strings maybe - her voice wouldv'e have sounded a lot better, with or without the chain smoking issue. "I've also wondered if the state of her voice wasn't the greater part of why she didn't show at the Carnegie Hall tribute in February. I certainly don't know that, and I don't judge Joni as wrong or bad for the choices she's made, but, particularly if the decline of her voice has continued at the pace that's easily observable in recent years, I'm not sure that I wouldn't just sit there and blubber, were she to be singing in front of me today." What you're basicly saying is that Joni should just shut up, right? I don't think so, J. Peace, Nuri kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Kate, "that is so great to hear that Joni sometimes sings in small cafes..." I have been seeing little mentions of this (mostly in Los Angeles magazine) from time to time now for a number of years. I read another mention a couple of months ago about her showing up at some new place in Hollywood. Have also heard from people that she even karaokes sometimes! I think it it just incredibly cool. Gives me the sense that she is real down to earth and feels comfortable in her "neighborhood." What a kick it would be to happen to see her in some little place singing one night! I wonder if she may have been doing this for years. There was a wonderful interview I read in the JMDL library awhile back where she talked about showing up to some little bar in Hollywood back in the 70s and taking turns playing the piano. Also, I think it was Chris (CC Karma) here who has posted that she used to sing at the old Nucleaus Nuance club on Melrose in the 80s. "I imagine joni to be an independent (politically speaking)" From the bits and pieces I've heard from her over the years, I think so, too! Kakki - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:02:03 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 I downloaded it last night...will watch tonight. Intrigued by the first few minutes. Great to be able to get full-length films over the freaking Internet these days. To quote Thomas Dolby: "Science!" Thanks for making me aware of this, Lori. - -Julius - ----- Thanks for responding, Kate. You're the only one here to do so, and Em was the only one to respond on another list to which she and I belong. Makes me wonder if everyone else's head is firmly buried in the sand. Lori In a message dated 3/30/06 1:38:54 PM, lrfye58@gmail.com writes: > >> It's long, more than an hour. Download it when you're able to do so, > and > >> watch it when you can. But be prepared: it's VERY DISTURBING. > >> > >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 > > > > Thanks for posting this Lori. Jeff & I watched it this > weekend. Twice. A > > lot of questions posed that I think everyone should be open to hearing > > regardless of what you believe to be true. What a powerful piece done by > > these young kids. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:06:56 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 > I downloaded it last night...will watch tonight. Intrigued by the first few minutes. > Great to be able to get full-length films over the freaking Internet these days. To > quote Thomas Dolby: "Science!" > > Thanks for making me aware of this, Lori. You're welcome, Julius! Thanks for chiming in and letting me know you care about this. I have to thank SF Chronicle columnist Mark Morfordfor making ME aware of it! : ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:48:38 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: A very brave woman, njc This is a powerful and amazing video statement on Al Jazeera television. The woman is Wafta Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. You had better watch it ASAP, since it isn't likely to remain an active link for very long. http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214 &ar=1050wmv&ak=null Funny stuff of interest to some ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6bG8NXDEko &feature=Views&page=4&t=t&f=b Laurent - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 23/03/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 23/03/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:11:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: american Idol, njc - --- Smurf wrote: > Catherine wrote: > > << I'm aware that I have a mean streak, so I try to > think > about the things I say to other people and how they > might be construed. > > What the HELL is that supposed to mean? > > --Smurf LOL - ya big blue doofus! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:25:05 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: A very brave woman, njc Very interesting Laurent. Glad she's in L.A. or we know what would be happening to her right now. Thanks. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:43:34 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, new Ani Difranco CD for Muller Thanks, Patti - I'm on Ani's mailing list, so I knew about this release a couple weeks back, pre-ordered it, and it was waiting for me when I got home today! Snychronicity strikes again! I love this "official bootleg" series of Ani's, and I've bought each and every one (about 8 thus far). This is the first '02 show, and a very historic one at that. And another studio CD coming out this summer. She'll be playing live in Atlanta (after a long break from the road to heal) next month but I don't think I'll be able to catch it. Momma Parlette also admonished: > P.S. Bob, you said you are "ready to show up > at Ivory's door with a > sleeping roll and a madman's soul"? Hey! You > can't do that! You've got a > piece of paper from the City Hall, keeping you > tied and true! Damn you, Patti Parlette, you had to bring that up, didn't you? Oh well, I guess I better drop my jones for Ms. Latta. (sigh) Bob, angel sitting firmly on shoulder NP: Shelby Lynne, "The Killing Kind" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:47:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni on Cass Elliot show > Hello, > > Does anyone have a video copy of Cass Elliot's > 1969 television special which > featured Joni? Howdy Lawrence, I do have that video - I'll get back in touch with you and we can work out the details. Bob NP: Jackson Browne, "Before The Deluge" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:08:25 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Don Alias This is very sad news. He was a great one and I loved watching him play. A very joyful spirit. I wish him peace as well as his family and friends. Best Paz (now in Area 51) > A message has come across the website stating that Don Alias was found dead > in his home this morning. Can anyone confirm this? > > Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:05:59 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Cristina Branco There's a segment on NPR's "All Things Considered" today profiling Portuguese singer Cristina Branco. Her new album "Ulisses" contains a beautiful cover of Joni's "A Case of You." Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:33:21 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 I tried to view this in the early part of the day but my sisters computer just wasn't letting it happen. I will try again tonight. Bree > > Thanks for posting this Lori. Jeff & I watched it this >weekend. Twice. A > >Thanks for responding, Kate. You're the only one here to do so, and Em was >the only one to respond on another list to which she and I belong. Makes >me >wonder if everyone else's head is firmly buried in the sand. > >Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:39:57 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 > I tried to view this in the early part of the day but my sisters computer > just wasn't letting it happen. I will try again tonight. You're a good girl, Bree. ; ) Lori http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:16:36 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: (NJC) You have to see this -- about 9/11 No...I'm naughty..mean..I need more...Lori.. > > I tried to view this in the early part of the day but my sisters >computer > > just wasn't letting it happen. I will try again tonight. > >You're a good girl, Bree. ; ) > >Lori > >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa Resnick Subject: Summertime Hi guys. I played a download I have labeled Joni Mitchell with Herbie Hancock, singing a jazzy "Summertime". A friend insisted that it wasn't her voice. It sounds different, and I thought that it could sound like someone else, but thought this might be because of the jazz style.Does anybody know if this is a recording of hers? Lisa - --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:59:35 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: sjc , Carly & Joni & Chrissie > Chelsea Mornin' to you! > > Here is what Carly herself has to say about that incident at the Fez. > Scroll down to the fourth item: > > http://www.carlysimon.com/askcarly/archives/archive-042002.htm > > I love how Carly speaks to her fans. Wouldn't it be loverly if that were > ever to happen here? (Hey, you can't revoke my soul for trying! > ) > That was my question she was replying to, btw. Thank you for finding it, Patti. I was going to try to locate this evening and post it here. Markly (Travis's nickname for me) in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:03:49 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Summertime Yes, that's her. It's from Hancock's album, Gershwin's World. She also sings "The Man I Love" on the same album. People who only know Joni's voice from her "Blue" period can be forgiven for not recognizing this later voice. At 08:25 PM 3/30/2006, you wrote: >Hi guys. I played a download I have labeled Joni Mitchell with Herbie >Hancock, singing a jazzy "Summertime". A friend insisted that it wasn't >her voice. It sounds different, and I thought that it could sound like >someone else, but thought this might be because of the jazz style.Does >anybody know if this is a recording of hers? Lisa > >--------------------------------- >New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save >big. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:04:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Another LOTC ? Saw a review for this CD today, and thought it might be of interest to some of you old folkies: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/comp/numero-group/ladies-from-the-canyon.shtml excerpt: "Now, in order to better demonstrate the breadth of this movement and the astonishing reach of Mitchell's influence, the inveterate crate-diggers of the Numero Group present Wayfaring Strangers: Ladies From the Canyon. Diligently researched and compiled with the label's characteristic attention to detail, the collection gathers 14 impossibly rare tracks by female folkies from every corner of the nation, covering an era which spans roughly from 1971-76." Bob NP: Fiona Apple, "Window" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Summertime That's Joni all right, Lisa - she also sings "The Man I Love" on the Hancock CD, a tribute to George Gershwin. Bob - --- Lisa Resnick wrote: > Hi guys. I played a download I have labeled > Joni Mitchell with Herbie Hancock, singing a > jazzy "Summertime". A friend insisted that it > wasn't her voice. It sounds different, and I > thought that it could sound like someone else, > but thought this might be because of the jazz > style.Does anybody know if this is a recording > of hers? Lisa > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC and save big. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:20:12 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:Top Vocalists In a message dated 3/26/06 9:18:13 PM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: > From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > Subject: My top 20 > > Barbara Cook - At 79 sounds better than most singers in their 20's. When > she stops singing, it will be the end of an era. > Hi, Gerald, I've been reading everyone's takes on the top vocalists when I found this one and had to reply: My wife and I (and another couple) went to see Barbara Cook in concert, about seven years ago. At the intermission, the four of us were so turned off by her singing that we left the show (and we weren't the only ones). May have been a bad night for her but it was the only time we ever saw her and quite disappointed. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:23:54 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: top vocalists In a message dated 3/26/06 9:18:13 PM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: > From: Randy Remote > Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 > > 7. Leah Kunkel - okay, you've never heard of her, but trust me > Sure, Randy; drummer Russ Kunkel's wife, right? Kenny B ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #118 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------