From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #114 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 28 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 114 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Deb Messling ] Re: My top 20 [Jerry Notaro ] Seven Year Ache, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Top 10, no top 20 - njc [Jerry Notaro ] NjC Jonatha or Jane [Kerry ] Re: My top 20 [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Joseph Palis ] patti love bug, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: sharing what you love, was RE: Top 10, no top 20, now NJC [Jerry Nota] Re: Sugarland(njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] jMDL trivia, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] joni film, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] njc, love is everything, and singers ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane ["Lori Fye" ] Re: A Sarsaparilla Saturday (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: The "L" Word [Randy Remote ] Re: Bush comedy, njc [Randy Remote ] RE: A Sarsaparilla Saturday (NJC) ["Les Irvin" ] Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane [Catherine McKay ] Re: Bush comedy, njc ["Lori Fye" ] Re: The "L" Word (NJC now) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: top voices [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: My top 20 njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Rusty10113@aol.com] Re: njc, NCAAs and March Madness ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: Top 10, no top 20 ["Azeem" ] Re: possible virus? NJC [frednow@aol.com] Blue Motel Room - Piano/Technical discussion [Bob Muller ] new sounds njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: My top 20 njc ["Kate Bennett" ] njc,recruiting and college grades ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane [Smurf ] RE: NjC Jonatha or Jane ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Brian Gross ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?top=20=31=30=20=20=20njc?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WA] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:00:27 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Since everyone is giving it a go, here's my top 20 singers/songwriters. 1. Joni Mitchell. In my opinion, she is the greatest singer/songwriter in history. 2. Janis Ian. Possibly inspired by Joni, Janis had a way of reaching into people's emotions and touching something personal through her own pain. 3. Joan Armatrading. Again, Joan is another woman with an ability to touch people deeply with lyrics that are very personal. 4. Stevie Nicks. Although Fleetwood Mac recorded great pop music, Stevie's lyrics were often very personal. 5. James Taylor. Keep it simple must have been James' mantra. It's that simple touch that draws the listener in. 6. Dave Gilmour. The strength behind Pink Floyd in my opinion. The most visual of songs were the ones Dave Gilmour wrote. 7. Olivia Newton-John. Our own Aussie diva. She has unfortunately been pegged as a pop princess to many people but the heart was always strong and her priorities never wavered. The sentiment was always for the underdog. The voice is simple and strong. 8. Missy Higgins. The new superstar of folk for the 21st century. Missy Higgins is bringing hordes of teens back to the roots of a well crafted folk song with the old subjects of personal pain. She took out every major award at the recent Australian ARIA Awards. A very clever young woman. 9. Peggy Van Zalm. Not even recognised in her own country, Peggy van Zalm fronted the Perth based band, Martha's Vineyard. Her lyric style must surely owe a lot to Joni. She speaks from the heart in a gentle yet haunting way. 10. David Bridie. One of the best singer/songwriters Australia has ever produced. Front man for the Melbourne bands Not Drowning, Waving and My Friend The Chocolate Cake and composer for numerous movies and television shows, David Bridie has never been afraid to put his views on politics or human rights out there yet, write about invidual emotional suffering too. 11. Deborah Conway. Another Aussie legend and dyke favourite. A gutsy singer/songwriter who keeps it at grass roots level. 12. John Farnham. Known to a nation as "The Voice", his songs have become anthems. 13. Elton John. What would the world be without having Elton John in it? Know as the writing team of Elton John and Bernie Taupin, some of his greatest songs have been his own compositions. 14. David Sylvian. Unfairly remembered for the 80s heady days of glam pop, David Sylvian gets passed over these days. His unique style of music experimentation and lyric expression has gone under the radar for far too long. One of the best albums ever written is Secrets of The Beehive. I urge you to check it out. 15. Neil Finn. A New Zealander who Australians like to call a "Trans-Tasman" phenomenon wrote some of the most profound lyrics written in this part of the world. 16. Michael Stipe. A beautiful gay man with a beautiful heart and a killer voice. 17. Renee Geyer. Possibly the greatest blues singer/songwriter Australia has ever produced. Years of performing with everyone from Aretha Franklin to Cher, she has earned the status of legend in her own right. 18. Sarah McLachlan. One of the greatest pop/rock voices Canada has ever produced. A beautiful songwriter too. 19. Paul Kelly. A shy, unassuming singer, Paul Kelly is one of the most respected songwriters in Australia. 20. Katie Noonan. Another woman who could easily be an heiress to Joni. Katie Noonan's lyrics wave the flag for any young woman who ever fely awkward about herself. A killer voice straight from heaven too. That's my two cents. Mark in Sydney. NP Tea and Sympathy - Janis Ian. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:58:45 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 The two Rogers: Stan and Garnet Lisa Moscatiello: not sure anyone would have heard of her, but she does traditional English folk as well as pop covers and originals, and her voice is unbelievably smooth and rich and lovely. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:05:47 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: My top 20 Bette used to speak unkindly about Karen's anesthetizing singing style, especially since they both did a very popular cover of Leon Russell's Superstar. And she often spoke unkindly of Karen's drumming. When Bette erupted onto the scene, Karen was a huge star and Queen of Nice. Our own Divine Miss M was delighting the unwashed masses with obscenity and shows that rose the dead. In a moment often recounted in Rock and Roll history, Karen and Richard presented Bette with her first Grammy in 1973, to which Bette coyly remarked something like Now isn't this something.. Who would have imagined? Jerry > Jerry wrote: > > >> Karen Carpenter - No matter what Bette thought, one of the great singers >> of her time. Perfect breath control, unwaivering tone, and smooth and >> silk. > > --Just exactly what did she say Jerry? Big fan of Bette's but don't like > her knocking Karen now. > > mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:25:53 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Seven Year Ache, njc Hi Ya'll, You got me focussing on Roseanne Cash. So, I decided to learn Seven Year Ache. I'm so high on this song. I shut myself in an upstairs room the other day to get away from the noisey kids, and they saw me walk across our balcony hallway with my guitar and harmonica so they followed me in... but they were quiet which was so cool. I saw in their eyes a fascination with the song too. It was so good to share that with them. Then they said sing it again mom. They like the harmonica with the guitar, and I don't have to try to "not" sound southern when I sing Seven Year Ache so it flows so easy. Roseanne is so awesome!!! Even if her dad hadn't been JR Cash, she would have set records. Love and joy in the song! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:29:29 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 - njc Not sure if she recorded it but I heard her sing it often in concert with a group of Peter Allen/Carole Bayer Sager songs. Dusty's version is one of Neil Tennant's (Pet Shop Boys) favorite all time recordings. Jerry > Have heard Springfield, of course, and always found her voice fantastic but > just never moved although haven't listened to that much. Didn't like the > material of the few that I have heard. Gonna have to find more and see if I > can find the version of the Newman tune. > > Have never seen where Melissa sang "I'd Rather Leave While I'm in Love." > > mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:44:47 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: NjC Jonatha or Jane Jane Siberry is interesting to me because I could never really get into her albums. It's when I saw her in concert recently that she totally blew me away...the music, lyrics, everything. I loved every song that she did. I really only started noticing her when I heard k.d. lang do "Love is Everything" in concert (which made me melt right into my seat)! I then bought "When I Was a Boy," which I like and "Bound by the Beauty," which is just okay. What CD's would you recommend, Michael...or any other fans out there? Kerry Michael wrote: However, the name that comes closest to mind, is not Jonatha or Annie, but rather Jane Siberry. Here's why - her very personal vision and poetic language, the dreamy, multi-octave singing voice, the lush vocal tracks and musical arrangements, her versatility on piano and guitar, the originality and aesthetics of her sound, the sense of spirituality in her work, her refusal to compromise musically, her relatively marginal status in the mainstream music business, her experimentation with folk, jazz, classical and electro-pop, the change in sound from one album to the next. All these things bring her closer to Joni than any other contemporary writer-composer I know of. - --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:03:09 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: My top 20 1. Joni Mitchell 2. Laura Nyro 3. Joan Baez 4. James Taylor 5. Annie Lennox 6. Chrissie Hynde 7. Bruce Springsteen 8. Nils Lofgren 9. Stevie Wonder 10. Judy Collins 11. Bobby Bandiera 12. Roy Orbison 13. Gregg Cagno :~) 14. Johnny Cash 15. Paul Simon 16. Stevie Nicks 17. Jim Morrison 18. Jimi Hendrix 19. Sam Moore 20. Johnny Mathis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:07:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Hard to whittle down to 20 a lifetime of listening to great singers, but here's mine: (1) Joni Mitchell - composer of keenly musical and lyrical songs and when I listen to her early albums in early afternoons, the results can be highly potent, but then you already know that. (2) Tracey Thorn - with a voice that seems to understand the bad things you have gone through. Her songwriting skills are above average and even if EBTG no longer produces new music, she is like a friend to me when I listen to her. (3) Janis Siegel - the most talented vocal arranger and with a voice as skillful and adept like the best of the vocalese singers. One of those singers who make complicated singing sound effortless. (4) Michael Franks - another undervalued songwriter whose way with melody and music invites confidences, heightens moods, highlights contrasts. (5) Tom Waits - literate, polished lyrics sung in unpolished croak that is equal parts Weimar Republic sphrechstimme and traveling troudabour ballad. Listening to his album "Alice" kills me every time. (6) Ella Fitzgerald - one of the most distinctive voices of the century who can combine the fluency of pop music with the complexity of a jazz phrase. Can potentially bore you with her perfection. (7) Dave Frishberg - very inventive and melodic and virtuousic composer of witty lyrics. Like Waits and Franks, his voice is an acquired taste that can either knock you silly with what it can do or leave you untouched. (8) Julia Fordham - deepest contralto voice in pop music this side of late-period Sarah Vaughan, Alison Limerick and Ewa Podles. Her songs are about specific moments of failed relationships and I think her "Porcelain" album is a classic that will someday be accorded the respect and acclaim it deserves. (9) John Pizzarelli - a scat cat that can meld his voice seamlessly with his guitar-playing that it is hard to figure out where voice starts and guitar ends. His sophicated syncopation and innate swing are really a pleasure to listen to but also reveals its complexity upon closer listens. (10) Youssou N'Dour - powerful and soulful voice that sings of breaking traditions, colonization and love in a language that transcends linguistic barrier. Very committed to an excellent performance that sometimestakes to his health. (11) Milton Nascimento - songwriter par excellence with a vibrato-less and tonally-even voice that can swoop and soar with the facility of a jazz singer. He more than holds his own opposite James Taylor, Sarah Vaughan, Pat Metheny in their musical dialogues. (12) Rickie Lee Jones - more other-worldy character than human, RLJ is a force of nature that seems to emanate from nowhere and creates musical tapestries with her non-linear singing not even better-voiced singers can approximate, let alone, equal. And when she sings "so long lonely avenue" in that voice, it triggers memories of unshed tears and missed opportunities. A genius. (13) Bob Dorough - a composer of highly lyrical musical conversations that work well as intrumentals and as lyrics to songs. Another voice that can either leave you cold and forever or "get" you and you become a fan, and forever. (14) Sarah Vaughan - when her endlessly versatile voice marries with colorful and playful improvisations, you know you are privileged to listen to a diva -- as out-of-this-world as that blue diva in Luc Besson's "The Fifth Element" and just as supreme as the best operatic singers. The Divine jewel of jazz. (15) Aimee Mann - EveryWoman lyric poet that has this ability to capture truly resonant moments in our lives -- often those we don't think about but nod in recognition when she sings them. A voice as familiar and warm as one's girlfriend and as earthly sexy as one's girlfriend. Aimee, will you marry me? (16) Ute Lemper - theater chanteuse with a wide range, verve, personality and raw energy that can evoke anyone she pays tribute to. She becomes the song she is singing that in previous life she may be a magician or sorceress. (17) Kings of Convenience - an exciting Scandinavian duo with moody pieces as vehicles for their musical ruminations. Everytime I listen to them I keep seeing in my mind a train chugging along a dark landscape with birds flying east. Very cinematic music without once making references to cinema. (18) Dianne Reeves - a very skillful singer that makes classy readings of jazz standards even classier and more delicious. Vocally, she can sing anything but has wisely avoided the pitfalls of early album fiascos. For me, her take of "My Funny Valentine" can never be equalled in terms of innovation and making that skill convey the soul of soul of the song. (19) Ani DiFranco - how can she churn out album after album of very unique wordplay and melodic inventions? Her elastic voice can wow but it is her extreme facility with a phrase that made me a fan(atic). Her live albums showed that she is as exciting, if not more. I think she is also fun to hang out with. (20) Paul Weller - soulful voice, insightful lyrics. I follow this man wherever he goes and ventures musically -- from the Jam to the Style Council to solo albums. In an ideal world his music and iconic image should be the cultural arbiter of good taste and quality music. And then there's plenty more and will make my top 20 in another given time -- Leslie Feist of Feist Sarah Ellyson of Hem Liz Fraser of Cocteau Twins Karin Bergquist of Over the Rhine Liam McKahey of Cousteau Karen Peris of Innocence Mission Damien Rice Nnenna Freelon Seu Jorge Holly Cole Betty Carter Giuseppe di Stefano Diamanda Galas Caetano Veloso Sheila Jordan Israel Kamakawi'ole Andrea Marcovicci Loreena McKennitt Skip James Laurel Masse Nick Drake Anna Moffo Cheryl Bentyne Richard Bliwas Waltraud Meier Jane Siberry Steven Santoro Karrin Allyson Sherrelle Cary Smith Robert Johnson Mary Margaret O'Hara Ethel Waters Kate Bennett Jeff Buckley Elliott Smith Joseph in CH np: Martha Argerich "Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1" - --------------------------------- Nouveau : tiliphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Dicouvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Tilichargez la version beta. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:27:57 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: patti love bug, njc if Patti was as sexy as she is loving she'd be sexing it with all of us. : -) Patti, you are a joni love bug. Let's put patti in the middle of our circle of love and toss her in the air and catch her. What else can we do to patti? XOXO Marianne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "Patti Parlette" Babies, I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time, babies I'm amazed at the way I need you...... Joni Women Rule! And so do Joni Men! Thank you for talking me as I am...it's been a very crazy day I'm sorry for being so twisted...shoobydooby flip city!!!! Love to all, Patti P., who will probably be institutionalized tomorrow...I told you when I met you I was crazy! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:48:47 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: sharing what you love, was RE: Top 10, no top 20, now NJC > np - bette midler, beaches soundtrack ('i think it's going to rain today' > sounded particularly fine) One of my all time favorite recordings! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:10:54 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sugarland(njc) Hi Victor, I am a fan of Sugarland. I know who they are and who you are speaking of. Yes, she did leave the group though I wasn't sure why. This is cool that you went out with her niece! If she's written any of their songs then she is quite good! I saw her and the band on CMT Crossroads when they performed with Bon Jovi. That was a terrific show! The lead singer is fantastic! I'm so glad that you had such a good time on your date!!! Keep us posted!!!! Love, Sherelle Victor wrote: Is anyone here a fan of Sugarland? The reason I ask is because I went on a date last night with Kristen Hall's niece. We had an awesome time...went to a Chinese Cafe(lol) and then to see "V for Vendetta" which was surprisingly good(of course anything that begins with a V is bound to have some merit...:) ) I just picked up the Sugarland cd and I actually really like it. Apparently Kristen left the band recently though so she could focus on her songwriting in Nashville instead of incessant touring. Victor, feeling that spark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:22:52 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: jMDL trivia, njc patti parlette's posts leaves me perpetually . . . .. here's some jMDL trivia: Who on the jMDL has slept with the most people on the jMDL? OR Who on the jMDL has WANTED to sleep with the most people on the jMDL? : -) I have the day off today. . . and I am sitting in the sun she's got a rose in her teeth and a lampshade crown _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:56:11 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni film, njc Walt did a bit of an auto biography at the joni fest .. you can see it .. on the tapes. it was funny From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Hmmm.... I was always fascinated by the 'Early Years Joni' as autobiography... that might be interesting... _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:10:44 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, love is everything, and singers ROBERTO Murphy wrote: "I am just discovering Jane now, although her name has come up many times on this list over the years. She is everything you say, Michael. I can't get her music out of my head. I walk around singing "Love Is Everything" in my highest falsetto and people have been giving me a wide berth, but I am fine with that. " I have not heard Jane sing "Love is Everything" -- or anything else, for that sad matter -- but I plan to (thanks to you all), and hopefully I will hear Smurf sing it someday,too! But I just gotta pipe in and say that k.d lang's cover of it absolutely blows me away. As Em would say, it rips your face off. It is quite possibly one of the 10 most beautiful songs I have ever heard in all my years on this earth. It rips my heart right open. And even without the music and the lyrics, the title alone is pure truth, imo. Also, I think k.d. lang's cover of "Jericho" is one of the top 10 Joni covers ever. Both are on her cd "Hymns of the 49th Parallel"....I think that's the name of it...I'm rushing, no time to check. Another singer who moves me to tears and to the depth of my soul is some lady from the Washington D.C. area.....hmmmm....some lady who broke Croque Monsiers w/ me and Mary and Gary Z and Cassy and Donna B (hi guys!), and then went to Strawberry Fields w/ me & Mary on February 2nd....what's her name? Oh yeah! Sherelle Smith. Her song to her husband "You Are My Heart" gets me every time. (I just got chills.) Strawberry Fields and Sherelle Smith, forever! Roberto also wrote: ".....Also, our own cherished Catherine..." STOP IT RIGHT NOW, SMURF! STOP PICKING ON YOUR SISTER! Love is everything, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:34:26 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, NCAAs and March Madness Mack wrote: "Patti, hoping UConn can win it all. Especially if they can beat Summitt and Tennessee. Ugh! Often wonder how these 'great' coaches would do if they didn't get all the best players every year.?? Also, had a secret crush on Shea Ralph all these years" Wow, Mack, you're "bi", too? There are not many of us that follow men's AND women's basketball, at least not in these parts. Most people are either for one or the other -- the men's fans say the women's games are boring, the womens fans say the men are too "only-in-it-for-the-money". Moi, on the other hand, I see and appreciate both sides now for what they are. Nevertheless, I must go out on an arbutus limb and admit though, that the women are better students, in general. And Tennessee and Pat Summitt are indeed our women's equivalent of Duke and Coach K. A storied and rich rivalry for sure. And you had a secret crush on Shea Ralph? She is one awesome lady. High energy like I have never seen....constant motion. Whenever I saw her on campus she was always running....even with all those torn ACLs, she never ever gave up. If I ever see her again (they all come home to visit), I will get an autograph for you, and have her seal it with a kiss, okay? That's a promise that I made! "For the men, have to get behind Jimmy & Florida now. " ABSOLUMENT! We're with you all the way, Jimmy! And Jimmy, quick quick quick, if you can, send me your snail mail address. I have something perfect to send you to help you follow your bliss! Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:52:36 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane > Also, our own cherished Catherine recently wrote about > Jane's ongoing spiritual quest which led her to > reducing all her belongings to what fits in a suitcase > and thus becoming virtually homeless. > http://www.sheeba.ca/ "cherished Catherine" ... LOL ... she is, but ... LOL ... : D That Jane would reduce all her belongings to what fits in a suitcase makes her MY HERO. I think I own one of Jane's cds, and I must immediately revisit it and become acquainted with the rest of her work. Lori, on a similar (but not as successful) quest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:07:38 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: A Sarsaparilla Saturday (NJC) > have three CD's by Jonatha Brooke, but haven't heard if Jennifer struck out on her own. She did. I bought her first CD, "Veering From The Wave," at a used record store. It didn't grab me, but to be fair I didn't listen to it a whole lot. I do still have it, and will give it another spin when I get my music out of storage. In addition to a demo and the above, Jennifer Kimball has recorded two more CDs, has a website (http://www.jenniferkimball.com/), and it looks like she's touring right now. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:22:08 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: The "L" Word - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassy" > "All I Want" was the tune closing out the show tonight. Closing the season finale ! Great placement, and I never get tired of how artfully James Taylor's guitar work supports Joni's dulcimer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:23:06 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Bush comedy, njc lol...pretty good, the guy really looks like him and has the gestures down pat - ----- Original Message ----- From: > http://www.wimp.com/bushcomedy/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:00:09 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: A Sarsaparilla Saturday (NJC) Little-known fact #4,595: Jennifer Kimball was actually a lurker-member of the JMDL for about 6 months a few years ago. Les, purveyor of useless information. - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: A Sarsaparilla Saturday (NJC) In addition to a demo and the above, Jennifer Kimball has recorded two more CDs, has a website (http://www.jenniferkimball.com/), and it looks like she's touring right now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane - --- Lori Fye wrote: > > Also, our own cherished Catherine recently wrote > about > > Jane's ongoing spiritual quest which led her to > > reducing all her belongings to what fits in a > suitcase > > and thus becoming virtually homeless. > > > http://www.sheeba.ca/ > > "cherished Catherine" ... LOL ... she is, but ... > LOL ... : D > > That Jane would reduce all her belongings to what > fits in a suitcase makes > her MY HERO. I think I own one of Jane's cds, and I > must immediately > revisit it and become acquainted with the rest of > her work. > > Lori, > on a similar (but not as successful) quest I'm trying to simplify my own (cherished) life as well. I'm in the throes of (finally) doing a separation agreement with my ex (some 6 yrs later - I'm a procrastinator), which means selling the house, which means downsizing to a condo or something and which also means getting rid of lots of stuff. You wouldn't believe the boxes and bags that have gone to Goodwill, the Canadian Diabetes Association, the Association for Community Living, to the curbside for recycling - and yet, there remains a shitload more o' shit. I look at it all in dismay wondering what the point is of acquiring so much stuff. As such, Jane is a hero(ine) of mine. We don't need all that stuff, do we? Dealing with it all has been very taxing, but also somewhat liberating. There are some things I find it hard to let go (little handknit sweaters from when the kids were babies, certain toys that bring back fond memories) but, in the end, it's just things after all. I sometimes sing "A case of you" and then merge it in with "Love is everything" and it works quite well, but lately I'm finding it hard to sing or play anything at all. Yeck. Bleh. I think "One more colour" has to be one of the most joyful songs I've ever heard. "The taxi ride" is pretty damn sad. The various "Maps of the world" are great too, and one in particular, but I can't remember which (there are four and the one I particularly like is either Part 1 or Part 2). "Everything reminds me of my dog" is goofy, but fun (the best kind of goofy there is.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:06:21 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Bush comedy, njc > http://www.wimp.com/bushcomedy/ I liked the part about selling Canada. I didn't know we could to that. ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:54:46 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: The "L" Word (NJC now) Cassy wrote: > "All I Want" was the tune closing out the show tonight. I knew I liked it for a reason. Yeah, me too. And my reason is: Carmen. ; ) Or maybe it's Bette ... or Shane ... hmm ... Alice on occasion, too. : D Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:00:58 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: top voices Aretha Franklin Joni Mitchell Nina Simone Bill Withers Bob Marley Wilson Pickett Whitney Houston Tracy Chapman Toni Childs Suzanne Vega Sting Stevie Wonder Stevie Nicks Christine McVie Smokey Robinson Sarah Vaughn Sam Cooke Sade Roberta Flack Donny Hathaway Rickie Lee Jones Ray LaMontagne Ray Charles Peter Gabriele Paul Simon Otis Redding Aaron Neville Neil Young Michael McDonald Michael Jackson Frankie Beverly Freddie Mercury Issac Hayes Melanie Marvin Gaye Macy Gray Luther Vandross Lulu Kay Ashley John Mayer John Lennon Jim Croce Janis Joplin James Taylor Jackson Browne Jack Nielsen Harold Melvin Henry Butler Gladys Knight Eva Cassidy Etta James Eric Clapton Elvis Costello Elton John Dinah Washington Edie Brickell Natalie Merchant Diana Krall David Bowie Dave Mason Dave Matthews Curtis Mayfield Chris Issac Cat Stevens Karen Carpenter Carole King Bonnie Raitt Jenny Goodspeed Brian McKnight Bonnie Hayes Kate Bennett Bjork Sherelle Smith Billie Holiday Beck Ben Harper Barrie White BB King Anita Baker Al Green Natalie Merchant Christina Friis - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:09:13 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: My top 20 njc Jerry explained Bette's comments about Karen Carpenter. Thanks Jerry. I would imagine Bette has changed much of her attitudes, as many of us have, as age has taught her life is different than what we might have perceived when younger. She has more or less moved into the mainstream herself, doing standards and such. Would be interesting to hear the comments from young Bette about old(er) Bette. I used to swear I wouldn't end up in the suburbs. Here I am. And what is more, I like it. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:09:20 EST From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 had to chime in to give a few props to some great singers not yet mentioned... 1. Judy Garland 2. Joni Mitchell 3. Sinead O Connor 4. Eva Cassidy 5. James Taylor 6. Frank Sinatra 7. Billie Holiday 8. Karen Carpenter 9. Stevie Wonder 10. Tracy Chapman 11. Seal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:22:06 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: njc, NCAAs and March Madness Patti wrote: > Wow, Mack, you're "bi", too? There are not many of us that follow men's AND > women's basketball, at least not in these parts. - --Oh yea Patti. Love the basketball. Played a lot when younger and would write it is my favorite game. Don't care for the pros anymore. They don't really play basketball with all the walking, carrying the ball, and etc. Hate to watch them and usually don't but loved to watch them when younger. Not a one of them could play with Cousy pertaining to ball handling. Imagine what records the greats (Chamberlain, West, etc. ) could have done if they had basically been able to pick the ball up and walk with it. College basketball is still closer to the game I grew up with and I was tickled pink to see a couple of guards get whistled for palming the ball. Don't care if it is male or female if it is good. The chicks have gotten the point where they are just as exciting and just as skilled as the boys. Wasn't always the case but I loved 6 girl basketball and I thought that game was special for the girls and took certain skills that they lost when they tried to be like the boys. Wish it were still that way, in a way. Texas is my favorite team in both sports and looking for the girls to be good next year but they are gonna have a tough time with Oklahoma, the latter having the twins and they are also getting Olajuwon's daughter next year. As for Shea Ralph I used to watch her and was amazed at those Connectict teams. A lot of the girls were still playing nicey nice at that point and I was amazed at how the Huskie girls would get down and dirty and Ralph was one of them, in stark contrast to being so hot physically. She always seemed to come up with the shot when they needed it. I remember thinking this year while watching UConn struggle against Rutgers that they needed Shea Ralph. Bet Geno thought so too. Would love her autograph and especially with a kiss implanted upon it. Tell her that Mack in Texas thinks she is the bomb. mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:37:56 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: My top 20 njc Actually, she has had plenty to say about young Bette, especially after having her daughter Sophie. Turns out that like Madonna, she became quite conservative after motherhood! Even had a couple of negative things to say, surprising, about gay marriage. Funny, since she was a very early public supporter of gay rights and various AIDS projects, including the GMHC. And she has won the GLAAD Media Award, as has, I believe, Joni. Jerry > Jerry explained Bette's comments about Karen Carpenter. > > > Thanks Jerry. I would imagine Bette has changed much of her attitudes, as > many of us have, as age has taught her life is different than what we might > have perceived when younger. She has more or less moved into the mainstream > herself, doing standards and such. Would be interesting to hear the > comments from young Bette about old(er) Bette. > I used to swear I wouldn't end up in the suburbs. Here I am. And what is > more, I like it. > > mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:42:19 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Top 10, no top 20 Always fun to see these lists, which contain some of my favourite voices, some of my least favourite singers, and plenty I don't know at all. I'm throwing in a song that I think showcases each voice to its best advantage. These are in no particular order: Christine Collister (Beguiling Eyes, a heart-meltingly beautiful Stephen Fearing song to which she does full justice) David Bowie (rather underrated as a singer, I think. Check out Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise) from his Diamond Dogs album for a truly stunning vocal tour de force) Marvin Gaye (Just To Keep You Satisfied, the last song on Let's Get It On - one of the slowest, saddest songs I've ever heard. His voice is liquid) Aretha Franklin (obvious really; Ain't No Way is a personal favourite) Laura Nyro (undiluted soul allied to songwriting genius - Poverty Train, from Eli & The 13th Confession) Sandy Denny (Who knows Where The Time Goes? - the song I want played at my funeral, but it has to be the version from Unhalfbricking) Phoebe Snow (I'm amazed she hasn't been mentioned - I love Majesty of Life) June Tabor (right up there among the greatest English folk voices ever; so full of light and shade; ever so slightly chilly; she can hold an audience spellbound a capella. Try The Band Played Waltzing Matilda) Lucinda Williams (on her recent records she just sounds drunk, so I recommend you listen to something from her self-titled album, either Like A Rose or Side Of The Road, as you cry into your beer) Richard Hawley (right up to date, a bluff Yorkshireman and muso for hire who happens to sound like a young Roy Orbison after a night on the tiles. The first song from his debut album, Late Night Final, had me hooked, it's called Something Is...) Matilde Santing (the sweetest, purest soprano, tinged with a just a little grit as she's got older. Too Big For Me usually has me in tears) Caetano Veloso (glad he's had a couple of mentions - one of the sexiest voices around, even though I've no clue what he's singing about. Anyone know what Quexia means??) Jane Siberry (hard to pick one performance, but I'm very fond of her demo of Haint It Funny, the song she wrote for kd lang - it's on A Day In The Life) Shawn Colvin (ah, such a unique voice: warm, grainy, elastic - her version of You Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go is inch perfect) Aaron Neville (he can be a bit saccharine, but give him a great song and he takes it to miraculous places, like Randy Newman's Louisiana 1927) Bonnie Raitt (emotional honesty, an object lesson in 'show don't tell' - I Can't Make You Love Me. I've heard other good versions of this by great singers, but hers is the one I believe) Jeff Buckley (the title song from Grace is plain scary in its intensity, a white knuckle ride of 100% conviction) Cassandra Wilson (Love Is Blindness pure silk in a glass - could U2 have imagined that this song could be made to sound so darn great?) It's getting late and I think that's only 19, but there ya go... Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/293 - Release Date: 26/03/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:59:51 -0500 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: possible virus? NJC Thanks for clearing that up, Bob. I assumed it was junk or a worm, but since I haven't been able to keep up with the list recently I thought maybe it was something I had missed that Les wanted me to see. All best, Fred -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller To: frednow@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:27:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: possible virus? NJC I didn't get it, Fred - but Les has said that the address you referenced was overtaken long ago by the hacker-spam-virus meisters, so if you get anything from it, you should probably delete it. Bob NP: James Taylor, "River" (TNT Tribute) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Blue Motel Room - Piano/Technical discussion http://formcontent.blogspot.com/2006/03/performance-alert.html This is WAY over my head but I thought that perhaps the keyboardists on the list might get something out of it. Bob NP: Ani D, "Crime For Crime" Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Never got to me. mack p.s. back to new music ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:42:52 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: My top 20 njc Some not yet mentioned- patty griffin, john gorka, sting, Allison Kraus, bob Marley, amy Holland! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:48:54 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc,recruiting and college grades >Dear Bob and Kate and David: You were discussing recruiting college kids. Post-secondary institutions are supposed to keep students' grades confidential. I don't think NCLB can override FERPA, can it? I sure hope not! If so, let me know, and I'll be marching on Washington tomorrow.< you are right... I meant it more in the way of when kids aren't doing well in school & don't have a career path they can easily get hoodwinked into the military with false promises & large sums of upfrong money... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:30:27 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NjC Jonatha or Jane - --- About Jane SIberry, Michael wrote: > If you ever get a chance to see her live - run. > She's very special. I just checked out her website to see if she might be coming my way, but no. She apparently performed in London tonight, Edinburgh is coming up in two days, then Dublin, the on to Germany, Belgium, British Columbia, Ontario, Colorado and New Jersey. Anyone interested in possibly seeing Jane live can check out her schedule here: http://www.flemingartists.com/itineraries/js-itin.html - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:43:36 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?top=20=31=30=20=20=20njc?= I've been musing over this billie holiday lena horne first album ella 1st ten years or so frank sinatra especially his first couple albums natalie merchant i can't believe i'm the only one that loves her she has so much fun performing louie armstrong that cat could swing (satchmo) neil young its his intensity bonnie raitt joni I love folks with a little grit in their voices and i've listened and listened to bessie smith and ethel waters and ma rainey as well as most of the others you've all mentioned. anybody listen to angela mcclousky? she's interesting lesli ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #114 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------