From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #109 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, March 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 109 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Lesley Gore NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] The Next Jonifest [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: The Next Jonifest [Bob Muller ] Re:I Walk the Line, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content [karen ] Whoops [karen ] Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content [Em ] Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/NJC ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] New Book About Laurel Canyon Artists [karen ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #86 [Dave Blackburn ] Jonatha - njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #86 ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] Fw: Melissa Manchester? NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Canadian movies [Kate ] Re: Jonatha - njc ["Lori Fye" ] nJc Jane Siberry UK tour now ["Michael O'Malley" ] NJC Jonatha [Bob Muller ] Neil Young in Austin ~ No Gig? [karen ] Re: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: NJC Jonatha [Catherine McKay ] Re: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: NJC Jonatha [Bob Muller ] Re: Neil Young/Slight Joni Content/ now Marty Stuart [JRMCo1@aol.com] The meaning of the name Joan [Nuriel Tobias ] NJC: Linda Ronstadt [Darice ] Re: NJC Jonatha [Dave Blackburn ] njc, Karen who is applying to UConn, then my son ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Neil Young/Slight Joni Content/ now Marty Stuart njc [Em ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:28:10 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC Damn it all! After spending way to much money recently on music and swearing to slow down, all this talk of Melissa is tempting me to try her out. Curse you all, I need to put food on my table. mike in debt np Anders Widmark Trio - soul piano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:28:10 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC Damn it all! After spending way to much money recently on music and swearing to slow down, all this talk of Melissa is tempting me to try her out. Curse you all, I need to put food on my table. mike in debt np Anders Widmark Trio - soul piano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:45:58 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Lesley Gore NJC I still have most of her 45s! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:58:35 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: The Next Jonifest When and where will the next Jonifest take place? (maybe this year i'll sell my piano and come...:) Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: The Next Jonifest Right now nothing is officially scheduled, Nuri - the talk has been around a date in spring of '07 back at Full Moon in NY. Just stay tuned and you'll get plenty of notice. Happy Friday all! Bob NP: Traffic, "Here We Go 'Round The Mulberry Bush" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:29 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re:I Walk the Line, njc Michael wrote: Cash's family isn't happy about Walk the Line, particularly the inaccurate portrait of his first wife. Hi Michael, There was a lot left out in the movie I Walk the Line. Not much was said about Vivian at all. If you want to know about Vivian, I highly recommend the audio biography read by Kris Kristofferson who was a good friend of Johnny's. Johnny talks about Vivian more in his last autobiography, copyright 1997 by John R. Cash. As for the movie, I heard Rosanne talk about it and from what she said she seemed overall very pleased with it. She was very happy with some of it in fact. Apparently, it didn't seem to bother her that it focused mostly on Johnny and June. That really was the thrust of the movie, a love story. I really respect Roseanne's acceptance and joy in Johnny and June's relationship. She said something like everybody could see that it was destiny, including herself. She saw how Johnny and June completed each other. I loved the movie.... everything about it even though it was incomplete compared to the books. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:11 -0500 From: karen Subject: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content Hi folks, Patti, you were thinking about going to see Linda Ronstadt ... I saw her last year when she came to the Beacon, and was amazed at how exactly the same her voice sounds. She sang mostly the Nelson Riddle stuff, which I love, but I was disappointed she didn't sing any of the songs I used to love back in high school when I listened to her over and over again (Like the entire Hasten Downt the Wind album) ... Or any of her Neil Young covers. (Hee.) She is still an amazing singer, and her voice is in fine form. I also saw Linda recently, she came out and sang one song with Emmylou Harris at Neil Young's Bridge School Benefit in San Francisco last October. She sounded beautiful. : ) Speaking of Neil ... I saw that someone was down in Austin at SXSW, um .. Julius? Hope I got that right. Anyway, there are rumors flying around that Neil actually played a little at "The Drink" at like 1 am on Saturday night ... Did you hear anything about that? Or see it perchance? Wondering about that ... There are rumors flying, but can't seem to confirm them. On a whole other topic .. Movies ... I haven't seen "Walk the Line" yet but am eager to ... I have heard such mixed reviews from friends and see that the same is true on this list. It seems that if you know Johnny's music very, very well, you don't like the movie; if not, you love it. That would be true for all of us, probably, with Joni, or other musical heroes. You know? It's hard to see "someone else" singing their songs. Regarding 'would there ever be a movie about Joni's life,' I am wondering if anyone here knows about this book that just came out ... It is all about the Laurel Canyon years, what it was like to be there with all these famous musicians living next door to one another (including Joni) ... Maybe someone will make a book of the movie? I think it would be incredible to have a documentary kind of music with all the greats from that period, a then and now kind of thing, clips of back then, and then close up head shots of the artist today talking about that time and what it was like ... Sigh ... The good old days! : ) loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:14:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC Well gorgeous music will drown out the grumbling in your stomach! Jerry mike pritchard wrote: > Damn it all! After spending way to much money recently on music and > swearing > to slow down, all this talk of Melissa is tempting me to try her out. > Curse > you all, I need to put food on my table. > mike in debt > np Anders Widmark Trio - soul piano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:09:55 -0500 From: karen Subject: Whoops In my last post I said: "Maybe someone will make a book of the movie?" Sorry. Obviously meant to say "movie of the book" ... A book of the movie? That would be something. Better go make the coffee .. loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content - --- karen wrote: > Regarding 'would there ever be a movie about Joni's life,' I am > wondering if > anyone here knows about this book that just came out ... It is all > about the > Laurel Canyon years, what it was like to be there with all these > famous > musicians living next door to one another (including Joni) ... Maybe > someone > will make a book of the movie? Hi Karen, funny you should mention that - I was thinking a couple times since this thread has been going on, that if a movie were made about Joni or with Joni (or a Joniesque character) as a central part of it, that focusing on the Laurel Canyon "years" and area and culture would be really fascinating. (for me anyway) and could provide for some really nice visuals. I vote for Cameron Crowe to make it. Which book exactly are you referring to? Do you know a title? Sounds way interesting, thanks! Em http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:29:16 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC So, which CD should I start with? All suggestions welcome. mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald A. Notaro" To: "mike pritchard" Cc: "list" Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC > Well gorgeous music will drown out the grumbling in your stomach! > > Jerry > > mike pritchard wrote: > > Damn it all! After spending way to much money recently on music and > > swearing > > to slow down, all this talk of Melissa is tempting me to try her out. > > Curse > > you all, I need to put food on my table. > > mike in debt > > np Anders Widmark Trio - soul piano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:29:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/NJC karen wrote: Linda Ronstadt ... I saw her > last year when she came to the Beacon, and was amazed at how exactly the > same her voice sounds. She sang mostly the Nelson Riddle stuff, which I > love, but I was disappointed she didn't sing any of the songs I used to > love > back in high school when I listened to her over and over again (Like the > entire Hasten Downt the Wind album) ... I saw her about a month ago and felt the same way. And she cracked on the last note of Desperado. She made light of it rather than try to cover it up. She is after all 60, but it was disappointing since she used to hit the notes like no one. On the other hand, I try to see Barbara Cook every time I am in NY, and at almost 80 her voice is amazing. I'm glad Patrick mentioned Maureen McGovern, one of my favorites. I saw her a few weeks back in Little Women, and at almost 60 her voice is still incredible. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:32:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC The Essence of Melissa Manchester is a good start. Jerry mike pritchard wrote: > So, which CD should I start with? All suggestions welcome. > mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > To: "mike pritchard" > Cc: "list" > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: Melissa Manchester? NJC > > >> Well gorgeous music will drown out the grumbling in your stomach! >> >> Jerry >> >> mike pritchard wrote: >> > Damn it all! After spending way to much money recently on music and >> > swearing >> > to slow down, all this talk of Melissa is tempting me to try her out. >> > Curse >> > you all, I need to put food on my table. >> > mike in debt >> > np Anders Widmark Trio - soul piano ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:25:57 -0500 From: karen Subject: New Book About Laurel Canyon Artists Hi Em, The book comees out May 6, I guess. It is called: Laurel Canyon : The Inside Story of Rock-and-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood by Michael Walker From Publishers Weekly Beginning in the mid-1960s, a string of successful rock bands emerged out of Laurel Canyon, a neighborhood of Los Angeles tucked away in the hills north of Sunset Boulevard. From the success of bands like the Byrds and the Mamas and the Papas, and singer-songwriters like Joni Mitchell and Jimmy Webb, Walker proposes Laurel Canyon as rock's answer to Jazz Age Paris. It's a plausible concept, but one he stumbles to elaborate past the length of a magazine feature. The journalist, who lives in Laurel Canyon, delivers strong material on some of the musicians he cites, particularly in early chapters about Crosby, Stills & Nash and Frank Zappa, but offers little about other equally significant acts. Instead, he pads the story with lengthy sections on groupies and the music scene in other parts of the city, the Altamont concert (which was hundreds of miles away) and a digression on the history of cocaine. Furthermore, his enthusiasm for the Laurel Canyon legend leads to shaky critical pronouncements. If "the folk stars of the early 1960s were the first rock stars," for example, then what was Elvis? 8 pages of b&w photos. "Laurel Canyon is hilarious and true and bittersweet. Michael Walker catches the mood in the air, and gets it right... the interviews are wonderful... it's a beautifully-written document of that time and place when the personalities were as big as those stony dreams that fueled some of the greatest masterpieces in rock." --Cameron Crowe "Laurel Canyon captures all the magic and lyricism of an almost mythological geographical spot in the history of pop music. The book lovingly limns the story of a more melodious time in rock and roll where the great talents of the 60s and 70s cloistered together in a sort of enchanted valley populated by an all-star cast of characters, including Joni Mitchell, Jim Morrison, Mama Cass and Brian Wilson." - --Stephen Gaines, author of Philistines at the Hedgerow "In Laurel Canyon, rock and roll history is urban history, California history, American history, global history through the songs and scandals coming from a canyon on the coast of dreams running through the labyrinthine center of our times." --Kevin Starr, Professor of History, University of Southern California and author of Coast of Dreams: California on the Edge Sounds good, I want to read it. Loveandaffection,karen > Hi Karen, funny you should mention that - I was thinking a couple times > since this thread has been going on, that if a movie were made about > Joni or with Joni (or a Joniesque character) as a central part of it, > that focusing on the Laurel Canyon "years" and area and culture would > be really fascinating. (for me anyway) and could provide for some > really nice visuals. I vote for Cameron Crowe to make it. > Which book exactly are you referring to? Do you know a title? Sounds > way interesting, > thanks! > Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:51:57 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #86 I don't know how many of you know Jonatha Brooke but she is in so many ways the true heiress to Joni's throne (big words I realize). She writes on acoustic guitar in multiple tunings and plays a fine piano too, her lyrics are confessional and deeply resonating, she sings her *** off with incredible pitch and ease in her upper range like Joni in the early 70's and when she rocks she rocks. She's amazing live, not by any means a studio-only phenomenon. My favorite albums are "Plumb", "10c Wings" and "Live" all of which show the range and breadth that makes me associate her with Joni. I imagine Joni is Jonatha's biggest influence, but that is true for thousands of singers; what may be different is how thoroughly the influences got channeled. She doesn't look anything like Joni however so to play her in a movie would be a major makeover. Dave On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Subject: RE: Walk the Joni > > I think that Johnny Cash's voice was so unique ..so > different ..that it was > hard to capture. Overall ..I liked the movie..and thought the two > stars > did some awesome acting. > > I can't imagine anyone playing Joni..much less singing her > songs..and then > playing her songs on guitar or piano. > > Any attempt would surely fall way way short. I hope it's never > tried. > > > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:44:37 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Jonatha - njc Big fan of hers here. I heard about her from this wonderful list and then saw a small ad they she was in town at a small venue so I went. Cost me 12.00 to see her great talent. Fantastic show. 10 cent Wings is my fave, and I like all the cd's she did with The Story. Jerry > I don't know how many of you know Jonatha Brooke but she is in so > many ways the true heiress to Joni's throne (big words I realize). > She writes on acoustic guitar in multiple tunings and plays a fine > piano too, her lyrics are confessional and deeply resonating, she > sings her *** off with incredible pitch and ease in her upper range > like Joni in the early 70's and when she rocks she rocks. She's > amazing live, not by any means a studio-only phenomenon. My favorite > albums are "Plumb", "10c Wings" and "Live" all of which show the > range and breadth that makes me associate her with Joni. I imagine > Joni is Jonatha's biggest influence, but that is true for thousands > of singers; what may be different is how thoroughly the influences > got channeled. She doesn't look anything like Joni however so to play > her in a movie would be a major makeover. > > Dave > > > On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > >> Subject: RE: Walk the Joni >> >> I think that Johnny Cash's voice was so unique ..so >> different ..that it was >> hard to capture. Overall ..I liked the movie..and thought the two >> stars >> did some awesome acting. >> >> I can't imagine anyone playing Joni..much less singing her >> songs..and then >> playing her songs on guitar or piano. >> >> Any attempt would surely fall way way short. I hope it's never >> tried. >> >> >> Bree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:05:52 -0500 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #86 I saw her with her old partner years ago at the Iron Horse Coffee House in Northampton, MA, when they went by the moniker 'Jonatha and Jennifer'. Great stuff! JR in NH Original Message: - ----------------- From: Dave Blackburn beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:51:57 -0800 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #86 I don't know how many of you know Jonatha Brooke but she is in so many ways the true heiress to Joni's throne (big words I realize). She writes on acoustic guitar in multiple tunings and plays a fine piano too, her lyrics are confessional and deeply resonating, she sings her *** off with incredible pitch and ease in her upper range like Joni in the early 70's and when she rocks she rocks. She's amazing live, not by any means a studio-only phenomenon. My favorite albums are "Plumb", "10c Wings" and "Live" all of which show the range and breadth that makes me associate her with Joni. I imagine Joni is Jonatha's biggest influence, but that is true for thousands of singers; what may be different is how thoroughly the influences got channeled. She doesn't look anything like Joni however so to play her in a movie would be a major makeover. Dave On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Subject: RE: Walk the Joni > > I think that Johnny Cash's voice was so unique ..so > different ..that it was > hard to capture. Overall ..I liked the movie..and thought the two > stars > did some awesome acting. > > I can't imagine anyone playing Joni..much less singing her > songs..and then > playing her songs on guitar or piano. > > Any attempt would surely fall way way short. I hope it's never > tried. > > > Bree - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:08:49 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/ Joni Film Hmmm.... I was always fascinated by the 'Early Years Joni' as autobiography... that might be interesting... but also cutting to the 'Post Blue' depression up to Court and Spark, which would please the crowds no end and go into depth of what she was really like during that period, but also continuing into the Hejira/Mingus era when it got really experimental and her life got a lot more focused. Probably it would start out with Joni waving at the train driver from her picture window..going off to Calgary to study painting but then cutting though to the DJRD period where we can see that 'the adoption' wasn't an overriding issue but there are little dreams of that period throughout... I'd like the central aspect being the creativity (but this is probably not interesting to Genreal Public, but who cares they'd be more interested in the more National Enquirer' aspect of her life, but the creativity should be a theme that should thread throughout the film) then a festival in the late 60's... a brief meeting with a young couple by the fence, they introduce their daughter... a host of feelings flood Joni and obssess her for a the 2nd half of the film... You get the feeling that this is a non-linear film, pulling in emotions and stories from various parts of Joni's life... Anyway... nearly time to go home... Much Joni Jamie Zoob > Hi Karen, funny you should mention that - I was thinking a couple times > since this thread has been going on, that if a movie were made about > Joni or with Joni (or a Joniesque character) as a central part of it, > that focusing on the Laurel Canyon "years" and area and culture would > be really fascinating. (for me anyway) and could provide for some > really nice visuals. I vote for Cameron Crowe to make it. > Which book exactly are you referring to? Do you know a title? Sounds > way interesting, > thanks! > Em > > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:46:22 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: The Next Jonifest Well I would certainly love to meet you...the mysterious Nuri. But I would hate for you to sell your piano. There must be another way?! Aluminum cans? Give blood? Old dental gold? Will you be singing and playing at the next Jonifest? Bree > >When and where will the next Jonifest take place? (maybe this year i'll >sell my piano and come...:) > > Love, > > Nuri > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:11:54 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Fw: Melissa Manchester? NJC Mike, I am not sure what kind of musical tastes you have other than Joni Mitchell but that does tell me much. Obviously you find deeper meaning in tunes, or try to, than the average listener. Essence would be a great album to have if you can't get the earlier releases before them because they do have a flavor of them contained on it. I would like to see you start with the beginning which is, arguably, her best album 'Home to myself.' There are quite a few copies of it floating around if you have the capability to play LP's. My first was 'Better Days & Happy Endings' and that was the one that hooked me. 'Bright Eyes' was her second and 'Melissa' her third and the latter is available on cd. Can't go wrong with any of those. Happy listening. mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:57:17 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: RE: The Next Jonifest Bree Mcdonough wrote: Well I would certainly love to meet you...the mysterious Nuri. Mysterious? Moi? Hehe. You make me blush in mysterious places, Bree...Only God is mysterious. And you know i'd looooooove to meet you too. Gee, tears in my eyes... But I would hate for you to sell your piano. There must be another way?! Aluminum cans? Give blood? Old dental gold? Don't worry, love, i won't sell my piano. It's been around since i was 6 years old. I used to hide pot inside it. Honest! My mother always says that when the cause is right - money is no issue. I'm much more worried about taking a 12 hours flight from Tel-Aviv to NY. Maybe Guy, my mate, would come with me. That should ease this hell on wings. Will you be singing and playing at the next Jonifest? In case i don't, i'll make up for it by cooking you all my extra-oridinary delicious Moroccan meat. I promise. Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:17:51 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Linda Ronstadt/Neil Young/Slight Joni Content Hi Karen. It was I that went to SXSW and attended Neil's keynote interview there. Pretty exciting stuff for the throng of music biz attendees. Plus, Austin just loves Neil...and now Norah Jones and Beth Orton. This I gathered from the reverence for them on radio down there, and the love shown them at their performances at SXSW. They dig Cyrille Neville now, too, making him musician of the year after he'd lived there only a few months...after he was displaced from New Orleans. But I digress. You asked about Neil and whether he performed in Austin while there for SXSW? That's a funny story from my perspective. The short answer is: no. Neil didn't perform to the best of my knowledge. But the rumor mill was in overdrive and everyone seemed certain that Neil would perform somewhere over the 4 days of the music conference. It was just a question of when/where to most. I was one of the believers that Neil would play and I dreamed up some quite far-fetched scenarios of when/where he might appear...as I didn't want to miss out. My theories were: 1) After attending the "Heart of Gold" screening on Thurs. at the conference, I felt that Neil would perform that night in a stealth gig of some kind. 2). My best guess was that Neil would join Marty Stuart's band, formerly of Buffalo Springfield, at Antone's for his 11 p.m. set for a big, secret reunion type thing. That didn't happen. I got a bit more country music than I had wanted in the deal, but had stuck it out hoping for Neil. I even went so far as to ask Mr. Antone himself whether Neil would appear. He laughed and said "I had heard that, too. But I can't confirm or deny." 3) I was undeterred. I figured in my wishfulness that Neil would most certainly now jump on stage to join the Hank III band, which is fronted by Hank Williams's grandson. I had seen in "Heart of Gold" how Neil had talked about having bought the original Hank's guitar and how he cherished it, but how one couldn't own such a guitar, but could just take care of it for a while. Well, I had convinced myself, and was laying bets, that Neil would join Hank III and present him with the gift of his granddaddy's old guitar. Hah! I'm an idiot, as it turns out. I wouldn't trust that kid and his punk/country band with a rusty old washboard, much less a priceless historic roots music relic. Needless to say: No Neil. No way. Hank III sucked, in my opinion. Sigh. 4.) Failing all that, the conventional wisdom was that Neil Would play a one hour set after Lyle Lovett's 10 p.m. set and before Chrissie Hynde (my new friend, details later...) and the Pretenders at 1 a.m. on Saturday night. These were the last performances of SXSW at Stubb's outdoors. I went and had every intention of hanging, but I hit "the wall" and almost fell asleep on my barbecue plate and beer. I had reached my limit and couldn't handle a single additional note of music from anyone, anywhere...plus it looked like rain. I bailed in an act of self-preservation. I had a 6 am flight out of San Antonio the next morning. I heard later that Chrissie rocked the place in a spiffy white suit and Lyle's set was good, but would've been better in a more intimate setting. No Neil though. None. So, I don't think he ever played, which is not so surprising to me, given that he was traveling with wife Pegi, Jonathan Demme and Elliot Roberts (Rabinowitz). I don't think Neil stays up that late anymore anyway, on account of his health, but I don't know... Thanks for asking, Karen. I should mention that Joni was very much on everyone's mind at SXSW. When Judy Collins and Chrissie Hynde were interview, so many of their questions were based on their associations with Joan. They even dredged up the old Fez debacle with Carly Simon in NY all those years ago. A nd poor sweet Judy Blue Eyes...all they seemed to want to know from her is whether she's friend's with Joan. The interviewer even mentioned that one of the favorite photographs he owns is a shot of Judy and Joni in Joni's treehouse at her Laurel Canyon home...circa 1968. Judy even recalled hearing a recording of herself that she had forgotten she ever did: "That Song About the Midway" at the Troubadour in Los Angeles in 1969. Anyone have that, by chance? - -Julius "Wanting to meet an artist because you like her songwriting is a bit like wanting to meet a duck because you like foie gras..." -Judy Collins Karen writes: > Speaking of Neil ... I saw that someone was down in Austin at SXSW, um .. > Julius? Hope I got that right. Anyway, there are rumors flying around that > Neil actually played a little at "The Drink" at like 1 am on Saturday night > ... Did you hear anything about that? Or see it perchance? Wondering about > that ... There are rumors flying, but can't seem to confirm them. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:30:20 -0600 From: Kate Subject: Re: Canadian movies Nuri: > And if it won't come from the California movie industry, then no doubt the > Candian one will eventualy create a film about Joni. I love Canadian movies - > do you?:) I do. Oh yes. Really had to wonder lately, though, when I watched Prairie Giant: the Tommy Douglas story. They'd cast the handsome Paul Gross as the rather plain-looking prime minister Diefenbaker. What were they thinking? Gross couldn't be plain-looking if he tried! What is it about Canadian movies that you like? Here, people complain so much about Canadian movies and TV, and I don't understand it. One thing I like about Cdn fare is that it reminds me of English movies and TV, filled with ordinary-looking people instead of 10s, like US tv and movies like to cast in everything. But seriously, who could do justice to Joni's life story, and who could play her? Maybe Kilauren could, if she can act; but who could direct, who could write the screenplay? Now you've got me thinking. I AM the editor of TCE's film section, you know. Kate - -- Kate Johnson, subject editor Architecture, Dance, Film, Theatre (306) 338-2007 The Canadian Encyclopedia The Historica Foundation of Canada http://www.histori.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:31:35 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Jonatha - njc > I don't know how many of you know Jonatha Brooke Many, many fans of Jonatha on this list, including me. I'm glad her "Live" album is on CD and not vinyl, because I would've worn it out at least three times by now. Oh look! It's Jonatha and me, together!! http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/JBrookeSm.jpg Jonatha signed my "Live" CD right before this photo was snapped. : ) (Photo taken by Brian Gross at J'Bro's concert in Elmer, NJ, in 1999.) I've seen Jonatha in concert 4 times, and will see her every chance I get. Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:32:39 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: nJc Jane Siberry UK tour now To all Jonilistas across the pond, Jane Siberry begins her solo UK and Ireland tour on March 23rd. Catch her show for us! Details here http://www.flemingartists.com/itineraries/js-itin.html Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:37:23 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) Sounds like it!!! Love, Sherelle http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11980300/site/newsweek/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:45:56 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Canadian movies 2 favorite Canadian movie are Lilies and Zero Patience. Can't wait to see C.R.A.S.H. Also, very much enjoying Slings and Arrows on Sundance. What a great series. Can anyone in Canada tell me where it originally aired. On some Canadian cable channel???? Jerry > Nuri: > >> And if it won't come from the California movie industry, then no doubt the >> Candian one will eventualy create a film about Joni. I love Canadian movies - >> do you?:) > > I do. Oh yes. > Really had to wonder lately, though, when I watched Prairie Giant: the Tommy > Douglas story. They'd cast the handsome Paul Gross as the rather > plain-looking prime minister Diefenbaker. What were they thinking? Gross > couldn't be plain-looking if he tried! > > What is it about Canadian movies that you like? Here, people complain so > much about Canadian movies and TV, and I don't understand it. One thing I > like about Cdn fare is that it reminds me of English movies and TV, filled > with ordinary-looking people instead of 10s, like US tv and movies like to > cast in everything. > > But seriously, who could do justice to Joni's life story, and who could play > her? Maybe Kilauren could, if she can act; but who could direct, who could > write the screenplay? Now you've got me thinking. I AM the editor of TCE's > film section, you know. > > Kate > -- > Kate Johnson, subject editor > Architecture, Dance, Film, Theatre > (306) 338-2007 > The Canadian Encyclopedia > The Historica Foundation of Canada > http://www.histori.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Jonatha Well Dave, by now you know that Jonatha has many fans here - this list is where I learned about her years ago. I've seen her live (with Victor in the audience as well) and also dig her CD's with The Story. I put Plumb & 10c Wings at the top of the heap, with Steady Pull not far behind. Sadly, her last release "Back to the Circus" was major sucky so it's been 5 years since she's put out something worth having. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:13:28 -0500 From: karen Subject: Neil Young in Austin ~ No Gig? Wow, thanks for the details Julius. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I have done exactly what you did in fruitless search of Neil and the stealth gig! In many cities the world over ... Sigh. I had heard the Antone9s rumor, and had sent a lot of friends that way (from my computer, hee) .. But no go, as you know firsthand. However, a very good friend of mine has a very good friend in Austin who SWEARS Neil played a short set at 3The Drink2 after 1 am on Saturday. But no one else (who I know, anyway) knows anything about it. I suppose I could call The Drink and ask. Neil does indeed stay up that late, by the way, and he is The Master of the Stealth Gig. Very soon after his brain surgery, he jumped up on stage at 3The Joint2 in LA very late one night and joined a band there (whose name escapes me at the moment) and played a 20 minute version of Down By The River with the band, who were all freaking out evidently, having never met Neil before. And in Nashville this past August, he played at a bar after 1 am, just getting on stage and grabbing a guitar. (I had flown out of Nashville only hours before ... Waaaaaaaah!) ... He loves the stealth gig. Even if it9s late. It9s always late. Hee. : ) Well thanks for the update about SXSW, Julius, I was so close to going myself since Neil was the keynote speaker with Demme, but the pass prices were very steep. But if I ~had~ gone, I certainly would have been right there with you hot on the trail of the potential stealth Neil gig .... : ) Loveandaffectionkaren Oh and p.s. You said it was not surprising he didn9t play given that he was travelling with Pegi and Elliott. No, he travels with them everywhere. Every tour, every city, every gig. Never without them when he is out in public anymore. Never. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:34:21 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) That's it, Sherelle! LOL! That's it *exactly*. And, oh, Sherelle, this is good... I forgot to mention: guess who played in that "special guest" time slot before the Pretenders on Saturday night at Stubb's, instead of Neil Young? Your own one and only Roseanne Cash! Not my destiny to see her this time, I guess... - -Julius > Sounds like it!!! > > Love, Sherelle > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11980300/site/newsweek/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:37:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Jonatha - --- Bob Muller wrote: > I put Plumb & 10c Wings at the top of the heap, > with Steady Pull not far behind. Sadly, her last > release "Back to the Circus" was major sucky so > it's been 5 years since she's put out something > worth having. > I didn't care for "Back in the circus" when I first heard it but it grew on me after a few listens. It's not my favourite, but I wouldn't rate it as "major sucky". Heh-heh - sounds like a squirrel name, doesn't it? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:49:32 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) Say it aint's so Julius! Say it ain't so!!!! (Crying uncontrollably!) Not my destiny either dear friend but one day, we'll both be there!!!! Love, Sherelle >From: JRMCo1@aol.com >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Julius, is this what you attended in Ausitn? (NJC) >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:34:21 EST > >That's it, Sherelle! LOL! That's it *exactly*. > >And, oh, Sherelle, this is good... I forgot to mention: guess who played in >that "special guest" time slot before the Pretenders on Saturday night at >Stubb's, instead of Neil Young? > >Your own one and only Roseanne Cash! Not my destiny to see her this time, >I >guess... > >-Julius > > > Sounds like it!!! > > > > Love, Sherelle > > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11980300/site/newsweek/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:55:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Jonatha Or maybe someone on board with Seaman Stains & Roger the Cabin Boy. Bob NP: XTC, "This World Over" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:58 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Neil Young/Slight Joni Content/ now Marty Stuart In a message dated 3/24/06 12:08:43 PM, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > Hi Julius, I've been enjoying your reports. One question tho: are you > sure Marty Stuart was in Bufflao Springfield??? for real? must have > been some later incarnation of the band, maybe? > :) > Em > > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav > ____ Ack! No, *I'm* sorry, Em... You are of course correct. Buffalo Springfield has always been Neil, Jim Messina, Richie Furay, Bruce Palmer and Stephen Stills. Marty Stuart was in the Kentucky Headhunters, a legendary band in its own right. Marty and Neil are friends and have recorded together many times, however. My bad. Thanks. Gotta brush up on my 'country' music history if I'm gonna be going to Austin so often, huh? :-) - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: The meaning of the name Joan Did you know that the name Joan is an English form of Johanne, an Old French feminine form of Johannes, which was the Latin form of the Greek name Iyammgr (Ioannes), itself derived from the Hebrew name Yochanan meaning "gifted by God"? Hebrew rules, yes!:) Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:27:06 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Darice Subject: NJC: Linda Ronstadt I have seen Linda several times in recent years...Her voice is still magnificent. Health problems have limited her touring, but you will not be disappointed. The last time was in Oct '05 at the Bridge School benefit at Shoreline (outside of San Francisco), Neil Young's yearly acoustic benefit for his son's school. Linda sang with Emmylou Harris , and the (large) venue was on their feet. Darice (delurking for Linda R praise) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:39:36 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: NJC Jonatha After Jonatha's label dropped her DURING the tour supporting 10c Wings she had to form her own label, manage her own tours, fund her own recordings. Steady Pull I estimate cost her 50-60K to record, maybe more, a sum which I doubt she recouped very fast. She has been touring constantly for years and trying to run a business as well; I'm not surprised that "Back to The Circus" was below par for financial and other reasons. That used to be the point of record companies. But now they are a liability more than a help to the artist. I can't imagine Joni giving us the string of masterpieces she did if they had all been self-financed and her career managed by email and cell phone from her bus. An artist needs time to peruse and reflect after all, especially the ones who don't repeat their own formula. Dave On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > I put Plumb & 10c Wings at the top of the heap, > with Steady Pull not far behind. Sadly, her last > release "Back to the Circus" was major sucky so > it's been 5 years since she's put out something > worth having. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:56:49 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Karen who is applying to UConn, then my son Dear Karen: For some reason, I just checked my junk email folder (I hardly ever do that) and saw a message from you. I sent it to my inbox (I thought!) and now "POOF!" It's gone. I think you wrote it on the 19th. I would be happy to help with anything you need to know about UConn. Please re-send your message...I just told my junk mail folder that you are not junk! ; ) Joni don't make junk! And speaking of getting into UConn, can I share my joy with you? My Michael from Mountains (the years spin by and now the boy is twenty-one) was just accepted into the Counseling Psych program here! (Also UMass, and he's waiting on BC). Some of you may remember (I know Smurf and Kate do) that 3 years ago he almost joined the military (and he and I had the battle royale of our lives over that!) because, basically, he didn't know what to major in. Today I am pleased to report that he has discoved he loves working with middle and high-school aged kids and he wants to be a guidance counselor. No, not just a guidance counselor -- he wants to be HEAD of guidance somewhere. I am so happy that he has found his path, and that it did not lead him to where poor Casey Sheehan had to go. There but for the grace of God..... I am so very very grateful. Love and peace, Patti P. P.S. GO HUSKIES -- the BLUE ones, that is! (Wink and a smile, Mike Hood!) And good luck to Mack and Jimmy and anyone else who has a team they love. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:53:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Jonatha Yeah, I'm aware of that Jonatha history, and Jonatha's forming of Mad Dog Records and all that. It's a real mystery why she didn't take off - - everyone who hears her seems to like her. By the same token, Ani Difranco's been kicking it with Righteous Babe for a long time and it doesn't stop her from putting out one killer release after another. Bob NP: John Hiatt, "Slow Turning" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Neil Young/Slight Joni Content/ now Marty Stuart njc ah ok! I'm almost dissapointed, lol, cuz that little factoid would have blown me away. I have a couple of Marty's solo CD's, he's really neat. :) Em - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/24/06 12:08:43 PM, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > > > Hi Julius, I've been enjoying your reports. One question tho: are > you > > sure Marty Stuart was in Bufflao Springfield??? for real? must have > > been some later incarnation of the band, maybe? > > :) > > Em > > > > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav > > ____ > > Ack! No, *I'm* sorry, Em... You are of course correct. > > Buffalo Springfield has always been Neil, Jim Messina, Richie Furay, > Bruce > Palmer and Stephen Stills. > > Marty Stuart was in the Kentucky Headhunters, a legendary band in its > own > right. Marty and Neil are friends and have recorded together many > times, > however. My bad. Thanks. Gotta brush up on my 'country' music > history if I'm > gonna be going to Austin so often, huh? :-) > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:09:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Neil Young/Slight Joni Content/ now Marty Stuart njc wan't some guy named Dewey Martin in the band too? Em - --- Em wrote: > ah ok! I'm almost dissapointed, lol, cuz that little factoid would > have > blown me away. > I have a couple of Marty's solo CD's, he's really neat. > :) > Em > > --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/24/06 12:08:43 PM, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > Hi Julius, I've been enjoying your reports. One question tho: are > > you > > > sure Marty Stuart was in Bufflao Springfield??? for real? must > have > > > been some later incarnation of the band, maybe? > > > :) > > > Em > > > > > > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav > > > ____ > > > > Ack! No, *I'm* sorry, Em... You are of course correct. > > > > Buffalo Springfield has always been Neil, Jim Messina, Richie > Furay, > > Bruce > > Palmer and Stephen Stills. > > > > Marty Stuart was in the Kentucky Headhunters, a legendary band in > its > > own > > right. Marty and Neil are friends and have recorded together many > > times, > > however. My bad. Thanks. Gotta brush up on my 'country' music > > history if I'm > > gonna be going to Austin so often, huh? :-) > > > > -Julius > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:33:38 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20Neil=20Young/Slight=20Joni=20Content/=20no w?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20Marty=20Stuart=A0=A0=20njc?= > wan't some guy named Dewey Martin in the band too? > Em > Yes. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:08:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Jennifer, not Karen, who is applying to UConn Ach, du Lieber! Ich bin ein Dummkopf! I meant JENNIFER who is applying to UConn, not Karen. I'm sorry! But Karen, if you want to come, I'll help you, too! I blame it on the Husky Fever or the bossa nova or the JMOCD or whatever. Love, Patti P., just home from the grocery store where all the cashiers are wearing BLUE Husky sweatshirts.....our entire tiny state is all aglow with excitement Now to repeat the post with the correct addressee: Dear Jennifer: For some reason, I just checked my junk email folder (I hardly ever do that) and saw a message from you. I sent it to my inbox (I thought!) and now "POOF!" It's gone. I think you wrote it on the 19th. I would be happy to help with anything you need to know about UConn. Please re-send your message...I just told my junk mail folder that you are not junk! ; ) Joni don't make junk! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:12:16 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: NJC Jonatha Well there's your answer I think. If you are making money you can hire more people to do admin for you and give yourself a little more space to create. Every time I've seen Jonatha it's been packed with devoted fans so I'm not sure that she isn't successful to a point, but obviously not a household name yet... And I'd like to see her on one of those Joni tributes if there's ever another; k.d.lang I thought was average on the TNT tribute but Jonatha would have killed.. Dave On Mar 24, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > By the same token, Ani Difranco's been kicking it > with Righteous Babe for a long time and it > doesn't stop her from putting out one killer > release after another. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #109 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------