From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #99 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 18 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 099 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: st patrick, - NJC -- W.C. Handy content [Lucy Hone ] Joni and Mariah and Rosanne Cash too [Patti Witten ] Re: Post Hejira faves -- the Chieftains ["mike pritchard" ] St. Patrick (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: St. Patrick (njc) [Bob Muller ] Re: St. Patrick (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Post Hejira Faves ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: Post Hejira faves [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Rosanne Cash, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Rosanne Cash (and a little Joni) ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology [Bob Muller ] Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] njc, NCAA, love for Coach K [vince ] Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: What smarm-divas do we like? NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology [FMYFL@aol.com] To the JMDL (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology [Bob Muller ] RE: joni and Mariah (NJC?) ["clive sax" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:35:41 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: st patrick, - NJC -- W.C. Handy content Smurf, fantastic song, but I am a little surprised by the last line in the last verse and have added it below it. Can you explain this one to me as it seems rather odd. > Oh ashes to ashes and dust to dust, > I said ashes to ashes and dust to dust, > If my blues don't get you my jazzing must. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around Was Spam around when this song was written and is yahoo some sort of armour from Spam? I had no idea that tinned luncheon meat could be so dangerous!!! Belated Happy St Patrick's Day QLL ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:12:06 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Half-assed update from Walt Hi, gang, Thanks for all the support that's been streaming in in all forms -- it is appreciated more than you can know. I apologize for sending a copy of a letter to a local friend, Steve Snelling, and i promise that as soon as I can man a phone, I'll start calling y'all. I love you all. Letter to Steve S., a local musican here in SF: Steve, Thanks for keeping in touch in spite of my apparent disappearance. I know from your songs that your are capable of *clear* (some might say *brutal*) self-awareness, so I know I don't have to explain too much of what I'm going through. I have the Joni Mitchell Blue-period superclarity stretched to the ultraviolet range, particularly during Robert's last few seconds of conciousness; we both knew he came home one last time to die, and this was good. The brutal honestry of some of your song lyrics (and those of other little-known geniuses like Patti Witten and Erika Luckett) convinces me that you would indeed indeed understand my need to be fully there when he went. Two things are going on as I try to go about my life now. Ignoring as necessary the huge pink elephant of Robert's absense to get through the days, but allowing same to hit me in the face full force for minutes at a time; remarkably, I've met a young man, a neighbor here in Hayes Valley, who is helping me more than I can ever explain. I'm *not* a public griever, and there is only a very short list of people that I will lose it in front of in person or on the phone -- and yet, this young man I feel I can lose it in front of openly (I did have to tell him to stop saying "Let it all out.") :-) Amazing that I would have met a young man with the right kind of intuitive wisdom that I can feel comfortable letting my grief pour out of in jets and spurts -- and who is willing to carry heavy boxes of stuff downstairs and out back. I'm doing pretty well, all things concerned, although anger does rear its head (the eldest sister is determined to remove the piano that R's mom gave to us; the man who came today to evaluate Carmel's piano was nice, and I can't be *sure* he'll say it's worth the hundreds of dollars it will take to remove it from here -- but it seems likely). It is inevitable that one of R's sisters would have picked the *one* incompetent Irish American Funeral Home in the city of San Francisco. R. was supposed to have been cremated shortly after his death, and I'm willing to bet it still didn't happen again this past Friday. They keep calling me to refill out files that I've already signed, but won't admit they've misplaced anything. I don't really care whether I *ever* get any ashes, but if I do, I know exactly where I'll put them. I *do* need a couple of copies of the death certificates, but i figured I'd give then until after St Paddy's to finally get that done. To all of you -- thanks for the support -- it is all welcome, in all its forms. And Steve, I'll catch you soon at one boite or another. Walt - -- The stab and glare and buckshot of the hravy, heavy snow... - -- But when he's gone, me & them lonesome blues collide... - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:37:11 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: Chieftains CD >>Some of the other featured women are Loreena McKennitt, Diana Krall, Joan Osborne, Mary Chapin Carpenter, The Corrs, and Natalie Merchant.<< I usually like Diana Krall, in small doses, but I think her version of Danny Boy is the worse I've ever heard, amateur or professional, and I've heard quite a few. As it's the last track I remove the CD when she begins to sing. The other women on the CD do a fine job, esp Bonnie Raitt. mike o'richard in bcn np Lee Konitz - A different shade of blue ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:58:13 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Joni and Mariah and Rosanne Cash too Rob wrote: > Of course, as I've said before, my favorite singer now behind Joni and Stevie > has to be Rosanne Cash, I am privileged to know her a little, since having been twice invited to her workshop, "The Essence of Songwriting." She changed my life, truly. ROT (unfortunate acronym) was amazing ("September When It Comes" is the pinnacle for me) and Black Cadillac, the newest, is, as she promised, an album of songs about death -- but not all sad. Just thinking about her recent burdens gives me chills. After my own losses I'm comforted by hearing and sharing grief and transformation in songs. "The World Unseen" is my favorite from her new album. BTW I just got an email forward from Walt Breen about the aftermath of Robert's death. I know some of you are sending him notes and lilac sprays, and I'm sure he appreciates it. xo Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts Hey there, Joni Digest Family! Happy Saturday to all...and a happy Sunday as well. I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: (obviously not all Diva's) Joan Baez Barbara Sreisand Cher Gloria Estafan Very Early Whitney Judy Collins Do not very Diva count? If so: Suzanne Vega (early) The Story Jonatha Brooks Bonnie Raitt Carley Simon India Arie Tina Arena Anna Nalick Dido Too many already Post Hejira Favorites: "How Do You Stop" "Last Chance Lost" "The Magdalene Laundries" "Borderline" Every cut on "Songs Of A Prairie Girl" (yep, know this isn't post Hejira) "The Reocurring Dream" "Lacota" "Man From Mars" There's more and more and more...wanted to say, though, that regardless of who shows up on my Delicious Diva List, there is not one soul that even comes close to Joni's calibar, creativity, originality...and that list goes on for Miles of Isles. Growing up on Motown I love the classic groups...and LOVE to dance!!!! I like Craig Davis a lot...he's relatively new. And I love opera, classical, jazz....pretty much all music. Always interested in learning about an older or newer artist....can you believe...don't ban me from the list!!!!...I like some of Pink?????? Oh...Dory Previn, Carol Bayer Sager, Carol King... so many!!!! Change..... I've been thinking about how many of our family have recently experienced the loss of a parent....I guess because my dad died on March 24, '81, this would be on my mind. I wrote to Marianne and Paz...there's a quote that helps in many ways: "In Memory Is Life's Reason" (can't remember the author). In our world there's so much to be so very sad about....but there's the flip side too. I try to give the gorgeous side as much thought. Can some of you share with me some of your favorite authors and the top three books you've adored. Mine are: "Love In The Time Of Cholera"...Gabriel Garcia Marquez "She's Come Undone" Wally Lamb "Man's Search For Meaning"...Dr. Viktor Frankl Then there's Tolstoy...some contemporary authors...Alice Hoffman, Barbara Kingsolver, Ethan Canin (especially, "Emperor Of The Air", Milan Kundera, Marry Morris (especially "Nothing To Declare")...too many to list!!!!!!! Wonder what this weekend will bring to each of us? Wonder what we'll give to this weekend? Toeach and all...a delightfully delicious weekend! With love from Bo - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:37:23 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: St patrick - NJC >>St. Patrick was born around the year 385 in a village in Wales. ... << (edit) >>....I suppose being born in the US makes one American, but being born in Wales probably doesn't -- or didn't -- make one Welsh, so I have no idea what nationality St. P. was. But I think we can all be sure he wasn't Irish!<< The point here (for anyone interested) is that we're looking back now to a time more than 1600 years ago and using modern terms to describe entities which did not exist then (or ever?) as we know them now. Gwyn Alf Williams (a wonderful Welsh radical historian R.I.P.) wrote a great book called 'When was Wales?' which discusses this whole matter of the territory which we now call Wales. I quote from him here: "Wales is impossible. A country called Wales exists only because the Welsh invented it. The Welsh exist only because they invented themselves. They had no choice. A tiny handful of people occupying two western peninsulas of Britain had, in the Bronze Age, lived for a thousand years (maybe even longer) as an integral element in some kind of human society which made Stonehenge a focus. For perhaps six or seven hundred years they had lived in a fragmented and war-like Celtic-speaking society as four or five tribes within a British complex of tribes. For a further four hundred years they lived under Rome; for half that time, their freemen as Roman citizens of Britannia, in at least three city-state Roman-British commonwealths. With the breaking of Britannia, they emerged in a welter of little British kingdoms, gradually shaking out as four major polities, one of them controlled by immigrants from Ireland, another probably by an intruder dynasty from elsewhere in Britain. By the eighth century they found that Britain had been removed. They were stuck in their peninsulas behind a great dyke and rampart raised by an alien people who called them foreigners - in that ancient language 'weallas' - or 'Welsh'. By that time they themselves were beginning to call what was left of Britain 'Cymry' or fellow-countrymen. Pretty soon there was nobody left to call Cymry except themselves. The stronger kings started to hammer the whole bunch together and make the country called 'Cymru': Wales". meic ym mharselona np Lee Konitz - a different shade of blue. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:43:25 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Post Hejira faves -- the Chieftains >>Here's a fun fact: St. Patrick was Welsh, just like Mike from Barcelona, only born 1700 years earlier. << O'Smurf Close, but no cigar. When I was born Churchill was the British Prime Minister, and the US President was probably Eisenhower. mike in bcn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: st patrick, - NJC -- W.C. Handy content Ha! Rich, fey and yahoo! The line that jumped out at me was "Blacker than midnight, teeth lak flags of truce," considering that I only know of one other song that mentions this kind of flag. Mwah, - --Smurf - --- Lucy Hone wrote: > Smurf, fantastic song, but I am a little surprised > by the last line in > the last verse and have added it below it. Can you > explain this one to > me as it seems rather odd. > > > Oh ashes to ashes and dust to dust, > > I said ashes to ashes and dust to dust, > > If my blues don't get you my jazzing must. > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > Was Spam around when this song was written and is > yahoo some sort of > armour from Spam? > I had no idea that tinned luncheon meat could be so > dangerous!!! > > Belated Happy St Patrick's Day > QLL ;-) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:26:50 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: sour grapes or...? njc Annie's piece is noteworthy because it's in so different a voice from that of her fiction. The site has hundreds of postings about the Oscars, which make interesting reading. Most argue BBM vs Crash. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: sour grapes or...? njc > The site has hundreds of postings about the > Oscars, which make interesting > reading. Most argue BBM vs Crash. And I just saw "The Constant Gardener" which I thought was better and much more affecting than both of them. I wonder why Raef Fiennes didn't merit a nomination for his performance? Maybe because he's so consistently good that you don't notice it? At least Rachel Wiesz won for her work in the film. And the soundtrack music kept me listening all the way through the end credits, quite an accomplishment when you're holding the remote in your hand (and chompin at the bit to check out the bonus features on the DVD). In other film news, our local Upstate Film Society is having their March film festival, and this week's film was "Paradise Now" which I was not excited about but was surprised by. I was expecting a propaganda piece but was instead given a very powerful insight into a culture and mindset that I admit to very little understanding of. Bob NP: XTC, "Punch & Judy" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:45:47 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: St. Patrick (njc) > But, according to his autobiography, soon after > he got back home he heard a voice telling him to go > back to Ireland and convert the Irish to Christianity. The voice he heard was the voice of the arch angel Victor. I was reading a book about angels and came across that which I of course thought was very cool. Victor ps. Go Tarheels......go Gators! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: St. Patrick (njc) > The voice he heard was the voice of the arch > angel Victor. Would that have been an "accidental angel", Victor? Bob NP: The Platters, "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:23:32 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: St. Patrick (njc) On Mar 18, 2006, at 9:12 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >> The voice he heard was the voice of the arch >> angel Victor. > > Would that have been an "accidental angel", > Victor? LOL....The original "accidental angel" was a exquisitely beautiful girl I saw sitting alone at a table in Denny's, around 2 in the morning(fortunately there were no armed lunatics there)...I suppose she'll never know there was a song written about her. I wonder how many songs there are that were written about complete strangers...I would think probably hundreds. Victor np. the dishwasher... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:49:37 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Post Hejira Faves Gang, How about one song from each post-H studio album? Don Juan's Reckless Daughter God Must Be a Boogie Man Be Cool Shiny Toys My Secret Place Two Grey Rooms Sire of Sorrow Harlem in Havana And those are just off the top of my punkin haid. Love, Russ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:47:45 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Post Hejira faves Thought I'd chime in on this thread.... With my ipod on shuffle recently the Travelogue version of Borderline came on and I was blown away by the poignancy of the lyrics and timeliness of the concepts within. And yet the song never struck me particularly before from the NRH album. Although I won't claim it as my #1 post Hejira fave it's among my top 5 now and it has proven to me again that arrangement, mix, tempo and production have everything to do with how a song comes across to the listener. Same thing happened with Eva Cassidy's vesrion of the moldy oldy Autumn Leaves. I invite anyone else to revisit Borderline on Travelogue and see what I mean... p.s Robin and I just added Down to You and Dreamland to our show. Dreamland is a blast to play with multiple percussionists and Down to You took me days to transcribe for our pianist Barnaby Finch. I wrote a composite score reduction of the piano and orchestral arrangement of Down to You to be playable by piano alone. I will offer it to the transcriptions section of jonimitchell.com once I've fine tuned the chart but I can also send a pdf of it to any piano playing listers who are interested in studying/playing this piece. Dave Blackburn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:02:32 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rosanne Cash, njc In a message dated 3/18/2006 2:39:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: I love Rosanne's refusal to be what her father's fans need her to be--and to be herself. Wow... "to be herself"... that's for sure. Just like her father was totally himself, wink. Rosanne is very cool. I admire her integrity. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:12:19 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Rosanne Cash (and a little Joni) On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:02:32 EST LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Wow... "to be herself"... that's for sure. Just like >her father was totally > himself, wink. Lol! Read back to me, that does sound funny. However, record labels would much rather someone like Rosanne or Joni play a part--act a certain role that they can market--rather than express themselves. I'll throw in here that while I love Black Cadillac, my favorite is still Interiors, followed by The Wheel. Both deal heavily with her breakup with Rodney Crowell ... some real Joni territory (in themes, not music, really). Like Blue and H, a feeling of the music as therapy for performer and listener. I think RoT was a great song, as was September When it Comes (although I have an earlier version w/out Johnny that I prefer), but that album was a bit too pop (for lack of a better word) for my personal tastes. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:49:42 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Green, red, orange, yellow, blue, purple, white, or black?, njc The Color Is ... Green What it represents: Here is the heart of the matter. Green is the color of love. Green is the color of life and abundance -- leaves, grass, plants -- it's all about growing, expanding, and living. So why don't we give ferns instead of roses on Valentine's Day? Because green is about expansive, humanistic love and acceptance, not bodice-ripping romance. Green is a nice person color, a do-gooder, be-gooder kind of color. This person has a warm heart. Hot passion is probably in there somewhere, buried under the integrity and honor. Understanding people who love it: If you love green, you put the greater good before your own good -- but try a little selfish behavior once in a while. The Color Is ... Red What it represents: Ah, the color of passion, anger and high blood pressure. Red is a primal color. It represents primal urges, like lust ("I must have you now!") and fury (you know the phrase, "seeing red," right?). Yes, red is a commanding color: Think of how stop signs get you to halt in your tracks and how you stand back when a red fire engine goes whizzing by. Understanding people who love it: They act -- sometimes without thinking -- on immediate desires. In fact theybre usually the poster child for immediate gratification. It's up to you if you go for it ... or proceed with caution. The Color Is ... Orange What it represents: OK, orange is not exactly the easiest color to wear and it's not the most common favorite color, but guess what? Orange is as sexy as it gets. Orange is a mellowed red -- it takes primal, lusty urges and mellows them with a softer vibe. Orange is the color of early attractions, emotional responses, and inner magnetism. Oh, and one other thing: Orange is also close to gold, the color of success and wealth. Understanding people who love it: Someone who likes orange is alive with feelings and the ability to nurture. If your favorite color is orange, you don't have an "off" switch when it comes to passion. There's nothing casual about the connections this kind of person usually forges. The Color Is ... Yellow What it represents: Yellow is the color of the sun, vitality, power and ego ... but it's not a great indicator of romance. Watch out for self-centered, me-first energy when someone prefers yellow to the rest of the rainbow. Understanding people who love it: If yellow is your favorite color, temper your use of the word "I" when you're interested in someone else. You can come across as too ego-centric. Now, if you're dating someone whose favorite hue is yellow, make sure to jump in and share stories about yourself, since this person may not give you much room. The Color Is ... Blue What it represents: Blue is a color of clarity, communications and charm. And regardless of the shade, this shade says: "I like to be understood." On the downside, under stress, a "blue" person can send mixed messages, have trouble making up their mind, or just space out. Understanding people who love it: If blue is your favorite color, you never run out of anything to say -- expression is your strong suit. And if you're dating someone "blue," the same holds true; you should always know where you stand. The Color Is ... Purple What it represents: Purple evokes the energy of illusion, imagination and fantasy. Or should we say purrrrple? Purple tends to inspire foreplay, romance, flirtation and teasing -- it builds anticipation with playfulness. The downside of purple is unrealistic expectation. Is it easier to live in your fantasy world than the real world? Some purple-lovers prefer it. Understanding people who love it: If you love purple you can be an imaginative romantic or prefer imaginary romance -- depending on how you feel. The Color Is ... White What it represents: White is light -- the combination of all colors. White symbolizes purity (the virginal bridal dress, the christening gown) and spirituality. There's a simplicity to it, too. Understanding people who love it: People who love white are probably clean and orderly. While white isn't the sexiest color, it is certainly healthy. The Color Is ... Black What it represents: Like white, black is a combination of all colors, but instead of purity, it represents the unknown, the unseen -- mystery. Black basically holds back information ... but there's no denying that it has strong associations in our culture with "the dark side" and evil. Understanding people who love it: If your favorite color is black, you are more hush-hush than ha-ha. The silence of this color lets others fill in the blanks. Black says "I'm not telling you anything." People who love black can be tough nuts to crack, but quite possibly worth the effort. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:08:16 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peep Richman" > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: (obviously not > all Diva's) Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I would also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? Mark E, Dusty fanatic PS: Bo, I owe you an email that is long overdue PPS: I also want to thank everybody for their kind words over the last 2 or 3 weeks. I have been thinking about writing more about this as there are lots of things going on in my head and heart right now. PPPS: I'm glad Walt checked in and my heart goes out to him. I've been where he is and it's a dark, dark place. Sometimes the light can be so hard to find and this is one time in a life when you begin to think it's gone. But it is still there, Walt. Just give yourself time and try to be kind to yourself. Keep those around you who love you and understand and they will help you. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:24:20 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology Dear JMDL Subset of College Basketball Fans and/or Politicos: All this talk about NCAA bracketology now....then I saw this cartoon in my local paper: http://www.comics.com/editoons/stahler/archive/stahler-20060316.html "Let's go on to win in November!" (Bobby K., right?) (Kennedy, I meant, not Knight!) So deep.... and superficial.....back to NCAA, congrats to Mr. & Ms. SCJoniguy and Joseph and Mack on your great wins. Phew for the Huskies and Tarheels! You know it never has been easy whether you do or you do not resign. It's a rough road to travel, when you take the refuge of the roads to the Final Four! Let's go on to win in April! Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts lol, yes it obviously differs from person to person, because to me Baez is (refreshingly) not a diva. I sense punishment coming on, but that's ok - maybe I need it. Em :) - --- Mark Scott wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peep Richman" > > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: > (obviously not > > all Diva's) > > > Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I > would > also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:12:47 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Green, red, orange, yellow, blue, purple, white, or black?, njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: > The Color Is ... Green > What it represents: Here is the heart of the matter. Green is the color > of > love. Green is the color of life and abundance -- leaves, grass, > lants -- > it's all about growing, expanding, and living.> The Color Is ... Blue > What it represents: Blue is a color of clarity, communications and charm. > And regardless of the shade, this shade says: "I like to be understood." > On > the > downside, under stress, a "blue" person can send mixed messages, have > trouble making up their mind, or just space out. Ok, so I like combinations of blue and green....teal, aqua, turqoise, sea green.... What does that say about me? One of the things that always strikes me when I am in the midwest in winter is how brown and gray everything is. I forget about that. It's always green here. There are deciduous trees and shrubs that lose their leaves in winter but the grass stays green and there are so many evergreen plants that winter hardly makes a difference. It took me awhile to see the beauty of 'the fallow time' in Iowa when I was back there the week before last. Mark E. in blue-green Seattle...where I belong, apparently ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:16:19 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, another cartoon Another cartoon from today's paper....this one cracked me up! http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html Love, and "peace in the valley"....lol, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:34:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology And how refreshing NOT to see a "Bush" on that list, even though I'm still thinking he'll get the Constitutional Amendment overturned so he can weasel in another term...not that he really gives a damn about the Constitution anyway. And back to the NCAA - yes, Mrs. SCJoniguy was a happy camper last night when the buzzer finally sounded. I think it does a team good when they have a fight on their hands as opposed to getting a cakewalk to the 2nd round. And she wanted me to ask you a question Patti...down here the UNC game was loaded with Chevy commercials featuring the spawn of Satan, Coach K. She was curious if that was a regional thing or if you were being subjected to it as well. Everytime it came on, she would change the channel, right after both of us let out a blood-curdling scream like Bluto did when Flounder's picture comes up on the screen in Animal House. Bob NP: (That other Patti)Smith, "Gone Pie" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:45:37 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: re: st patrick - NJC <<...so I have no idea what nationality St. P. was. But I think we can all be sure he wasn't Irish!>> Apparently, neither is the song "Danny Boy": http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408066 Mia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts Well since I started this whole Mariah thing, I'll confess that once I hit send with my list I realized Dusty should have been in the top five, at least. She is without peer at a purely pop artist of her, or any, time. Jerry Em wrote: > lol, yes it obviously differs from person to person, because to me Baez > is (refreshingly) not a diva. > I sense punishment coming on, but that's ok - maybe I need it. > Em > :) > > --- Mark Scott wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peep Richman" >> > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: >> (obviously not >> > all Diva's) >> >> >> Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I >> would >> also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:46:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: Joni cover mention on NPR I was just listening to NPR and they were featuring Portuguese fado singer, Cristina Branco's new album, Ulysses. They said the theme was "wandering or roaming," and that there was a Joni cover on it. Of course I assumed it would be something from Hejira, but I looked it up and it's yet another cover of A Case Of You. There is no audio clip on Amazon, but I found one on Barnes and Noble: http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?z=y&EAN=602498208984&ITM=1 Kerry - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:04:48 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc, NCAA, love for Coach K Bob Muller wrote: >down here the UNC game was loaded with >Chevy commercials featuring the spawn of Satan, >Coach K. > > I have to give some love to Coach K. He is from the same part of Chicago as I am, went to a nearby high school where one of my best friends went, he is a good old Chicago Polish boy who made good. He can coach, he can recruit, like no one since John Wooden. He runs a clean program. He is doing 9 straight Sweet 16s - I can respect that. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:15:27 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology Bob wrote: >And how refreshing NOT to see a "Bush" on that >list, even though I'm still thinking he'll get >the Constitutional Amendment overturned so he can >weasel in another term...not that he really gives >a damn about the Constitution anyway. Constitution? We have a Constitution? Yeah, and looking at both sides now (sorry! can't help it!) of the brackets, I wish Obama were on the other side. Maybe it's too early for him. And Dodd, too. He writes me letters practically every week these days. He's a good dude. Bob again: >And back to the NCAA - yes, Mrs. SCJoniguy was a >happy camper last night when the buzzer finally >sounded. I think it does a team good when they >have a fight on their hands as opposed to getting >a cakewalk to the 2nd round. Nothing like having a happy camper in your kitchen! And you are right on, brother -- tough games like these make the victories sweeter. It was pretty scary for a while. (Pretty as in "rather" as opposed to "pleasant"...as in the "it stays pretty green" debate, ya know?) Two headlines in my paper today were: "UNC Barely Avoids Upset" and "UConn's Not History". And then this little paragraph which sent me back into full-blown Joni Tourette's: "HIGH WIND WARNING: The high wind that blew throught the state last night was a collective sigh of relief let out by UConn fans. The Huskies teased the nation into thinking they would be the first No. 1 seed to lose to a No. 16, looking inferior to Albany for nearly 35 minutes." Yep, I heard it in the wind last night -- it sounded like applause! Did we get a round resounding for us way down in SC? Let the wind carry us! Bob again: >And she wanted me to ask you a question >Patti...down here the UNC game was loaded with >Chevy commercials featuring the spawn of Satan, >Coach K. She was curious if that was a regional >thing or if you were being subjected to it as >well. Everytime it came on, she would change the >channel, right after both of us let out a >blood-curdling scream like Bluto did when >Flounder's picture comes up on the screen in >Animal House. Ha ha ha! Oh, yes indeedy, those commercials were on here, too! Puke! (Sorry, I hate that word, but it fits here and it rhymes.) Yes, I daresay in Animal Houses (filled with Husky dogs) all across campus there were the same blood-curdling screams hurtling into the wind last night. I was *already* sitting in a freakin' torture chamber, down by 12, and then to keep seeing that face. Talk about adding insult to injury! (Sorry, Vince and other Coach K. fans, but this man is persona non grata -- that's putting it nicely -- up here in Huskyville ever since Christian (misnomer if there ever was one) Laettner killed our dream season in 1990 w/ a buzzer beater that knocked us out of the running for our first-ever Final Four. I know we beat them in 1999 for the National Championship, and that was the sweetest victory EVER for us -- we painted the whole state BLUE -- but that shock of a shot in 1990 will live forever in our Husky hearts. Sometimes there just is no redemption.) I just looked at both sides now of the brackets, and see that Jimmy's Gators won (that's Florida, n'est-ce pas?), so good for you, Jimmy! And on the other side, NC State plays Texas. The clash of JMDL titans, SCJoniguy vs. Mack! Oooh la la! And then, the bad news, for me: UConn plays Sunday at 2:30 p.m. Merde! I had been excited about attending a big anti-war vigil in Hartford tomorrow at 2 p.m. I had a head full of quandary for about 2 minutes and then decided that my heart and mind tell me to stay home and watch my dogs eat up some other dogs. The war isn't about to stop just because I attend or do not attend a rally, right? Darn right, I'm afraid. Okay, good luck to everyone -- until UConn comes knocking at your garden gate, of course. All in good fun (I wanna have fun, I wanna shine like the sun...), Loveuconn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:22:42 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni & Mariah (NJC?) So....Beethoven is equal to Avril Lavigne? Bob Dylan is artistically no better than Englebert Humperdink? Picasso's work is no better than someone who vomits on a canvas and signs it? It's just my egotistical reaction to say one is better than the other? Man, have I been living in a world of illusion. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "clive sax" > Dear all, > > Well I have to put my happeny's worth in here. Mariah is Mariah as Joni is > Joni and any feelings we have about any artist is a reflection of who we > are > and Not who they are. Working on this premise we have to assume that any > Joy > we experience when listening to our favourite artists is because we are > able > to be and feel more ourselves in their musical world - A world that > encompasses Both content and image. So If I hate Mariah it is merely > subjective. I know the Ego doesn't like that idea and we all love to > debate > the merits or lack of in the artists we love or despise, but that is a > trick > an unreality. so If I hate mariah I don't say it's because of her music or > her > sexual strutting or her image, I say it's because what she represents to > me > and how i internalise that representation shakes the idea I have of > myself, of > who I am - My ego Identity. Putting it Bluntly - Everything is personal > and > everything is about you......me.......you ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:30:16 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: What smarm-divas do we like? NJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mia _" > And like you, Joseph, I cannot stand Diana Ross. Such a boring voice! > And is it just me, or does anyone else hear the similarities between her > "keep me hanging on" song and U2's "Vertigo" ? Now that you mention it, yes, although I always thought of "Vertigo" as a direct ripoff of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and Madonna's "Ray of Light"... The Supremes were supreme, imo, and Ross' voice was, too, on "Baby Love", "Love Child", "Someday We'll Be Together", etc etc.... although I have no use for her diva reincarnation RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:36:44 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Green, red, orange, yellow, blue, purple, white, or black?, njc Mark wrote: There are deciduous trees and shrubs that lose their leaves in winter but the grass stays green and there are so many evergreen plants that winter hardly makes a difference. Hi Mark, Sounds like it stays pretty green in Seattle. It stays a little green here in Arkansas in the winter, kind of pretty. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:44:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni cover mention on NPR The operative word being "new"...Cristina's album came out mid-last year - her cover of ACOY is pretty sweet. It was featured on Volume 69. Broadway star Julia Murney (Wicked) will have another cover of ACOY on her release, coming out next month. Bob, covered up with covers yet never satisfied NP: NPR's All songs Considered, which features a Furry Lewis tune - synchro. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:54:16 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology > I wish Obama were on the other side. Maybe > it's too early for him. I think so - one term as a Junior Senator is not much experience. And frankly, I fear for him - you know what Joni says about people who give hope... > And on the > other side, NC State plays Texas. The clash of > JMDL titans, SCJoniguy vs. > Mack! A win-win for me, I can be happy with either team's win. It's not like I think that this team is gonna pull another '83 Cardiac Pack or anything. > The war > isn't about to stop just > because I attend or do not attend a rally, > right? Darn right, I'm afraid. I'm afraid you're right, Patti - besides, you have to interrupt the sorrow with some fun or else you lose good sleep, true? Bob NP: Peter Mulvey on NPR Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:22:07 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: March of the Penguins (NJC) < Subject: March on... NJC Marianne and I saw a lovely lovely movie yesterday called.. March Of The Penguins. While watching it I pondered many things...how there must be something out there greater than ourselves to have created these fascinating creatures..these birds who do not fly...swim.. but yet are not fish. This French team who filmed in Antarctica for a year made several references about life.... through the narration of Morgan Freeman (I love his voice..so soothing and nice) the unborn chicks.. whose parents only purpose was to see that these not yet hatched babies made it..no matter the obstacles. How a place so remote...so forbidding in many ways.. can be so beautiful too. And when it was all over I found Ii have a new love.... the penguin. (and for the French ;-) ) See it...you won't be sorry...that's pretty much a guarantee! Bree>> Bree, that movie was a wonder, wasn't it? I just sat with my mouth agape through most of it thinking that the whole thing seemed so improbable. Such a freak of nature. And again and again for how many years?? And I would buy Morgan Freeman's rendition of the phone book if it were available. I *love* his voice. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:51:51 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology In a message dated 3/18/2006 3:19:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > I just looked at both sides now of the brackets, and see that Jimmy's > Gators > won (that's Florida, n'est-ce pas?), so good for you, Jimmy! Thanks Patti! We just won again and made it to the sweet sixteen for the first time since 2000. I stayed at home indoors on a beautiful day, but I'm so glad. I'm still cheering for UConn, UNC, and NC State.....just don't want Duke or Gonzaga to win. Sorry for the basketball talk amongst the few of us, but as we always say.......if it's NJC we can say what we want! "Basketball Jones, I got a Basketball Jones Got a Basketball Jones, oh baby, oo-oo-ooo" Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:20:03 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: To the JMDL (NJC) To all my friends on the JMDL. Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and prayers! I got back from Honduras on Tuesday and am finally getting around the computer. My dad passed on Saturday afternoon (a week ago today). Julian and I were veggin' on the couch when my brother in law called. My sister Linda met me in Houston for the trip down for the funeral. The mass was very nice and our friends and family did a beautiful job in sending him off. I had only been back for 3 days from visiting him for a week. I had a chance to talk to him and say many things that I thought should be said. Fatima, the lady who has been his daytime caretaker at my sisters home told me that he had been asking for me everyday and that he had been only waiting for me. I am so glad that I went. I did not want to face that horror, but am so glad that I did. And now 40 years after I had been told that my dad was going to die I, one of my darkest childhood fears has come true. I am an orphan! It is a very odd feeling, but I am comforted by my family and by my friends. My children took his passing very hard and it made it even harder for me. I tried to write to the list while I was down there visiting before he died, but I guess the note bounced. My dear friend Harlan shared a chapter from a book called "Still Here" by Ram Dass called "Learning To Die". It helped me a lot in the days before daddy passed. I have a copy I can send in a pdf in anyone would like a copy. My sister did a wonderful job of keeping him alive a lot longer than he would have had he been alone or in a home. She also took it so hard and had a very hard time letting go. My heart goes out to all of you who have recently lost someone. Especially Mark and Marianne and Bree. My the comfort of the Lord and Family and Friends be with you all. Thanks again to you all and I look forward to seeing you all soon. Love Paz NP-Long Ride Home-Patti Griffin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, NCAA, then political bracketology > "Basketball Jones, I got a Basketball Jones > Got a Basketball Jones, oh baby, oo-oo-ooo" Which was by Cheech & Chong, who also appear on Court & Spark (Twisted, floop shooby, flip city), so even talking basketball, it all comes back to Joni! Go Gators! Congratulations Jimmy. Bob NP: Tori, "Precious Things" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:16:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Vienna Teng collaborating with Larry Klein - vljc Hey, all. I got this e-mail from the Vienna Teng group. There's a wee Joni-connection: "Exciting news: Vienna has signed with Zoe/Rounder Records! With the independent label's long history of successes,reputation for artistic freedom, and a roster that includes Duncan Sheik,Kathleen Edwards, Sarah Harmer and the Cowboy Junkies, it looks like Vienna's forthcoming releases are in very good hands. "http://www.rounder.com "Currently she's in the studio with producer Larry Klein (also a film composer, renowned bass player, and longtime Joni Mitchell collaborator), recording her third album and Zoe debut, tentatively titled "Dreaming Through The Noise." Release date and other details will be posted soon as we know them. "A big THANK YOU to all of you for supporting Vienna's music and making this possible. You came to listen at coffeehouses and living rooms and street corners; you told friends to listen to this song you found; you believed in an artist even if she wasn't all over the radio and the magazine rack. Really and truly, we couldn't have gotten here without you. "An equally big THANK YOU to Virt Records for their tireless work on the first two albums -- it's been an amazing journey these past four years. "And congratulations on their great new bands, Ellery and The Bittersweets! *** "Solo performances this spring: "4/29 Annapolis MD 4/30 Washington DC 5/04 Birmingham AL 5/06 Atlanta GA 5/09 Houston TX 5/10 Austin TX 5/11 La Grange TX 5/12 Dallas TX "Check http://www.viennateng.com/tour for details and to purchase tickets. "Friends in Europe: tour dates are in the works for early summer!" Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:41:05 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: Re: Joni cover mention on NPR Oops. I thought I had a scoop.... Bob Muller wrote: The operative word being "new"...Cristina's album came out mid-last year - her cover of ACOY is pretty sweet. It was featured on Volume 69. Broadway star Julia Murney (Wicked) will have another cover of ACOY on her release, coming out next month. Bob, covered up with covers yet never satisfied NP: NPR's All songs Considered, which features a Furry Lewis tune - synchro. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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