From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #96 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 16 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 096 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc Sopranos ["mike pritchard" ] "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? ["Michael R. Moore" ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Half Baked or NJC [Em ] njc Great God in heaven I love you [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: Half Baked or NJC / apologies [Em ] Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? ["Michael R. Moore" ] Sweet 16 Vol 1 - uploaded again [Brian Gross ] Re: njc, death and rebirth and death and rebirth ["Sherelle Smith" ] fathers njc ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? ["Les Irvin" ] njc, Huskies ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? [Catherine McKay ] RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? [Catherine McKay ] Re: Talking bout my generation NJC ["Ruth Davis" ] craig armstrong njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Half baked / apologies njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] njc, wasted away in breeandmariannaville ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? ["mack watson-bush" ] Slouching Towards Bethlehem ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, Huskies [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, Huskies ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! [vince ] NJC Good news - Bad News - Good news! [Bob Muller ] Re: njc Great God in heaven I love you [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! [FMYFL@aol.com] Ian Shaw news & an interview link [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! ["mack watson-bush" ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: njc Great God in heaven I love you [vince ] Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! [vince ] njc, Marianne's dad ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: njc, Marianne's dad ["Bree Mcdonough" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:44:21 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: njc Sopranos >>How does anyone live only in Season 4? You are stronger people than I. In an internet age to live when the information is out there... I am most impressed. It also means we really cannot discuss it in the JMDL - after all these years finally found the topic we cannot discuss - which kind of saddens me. Oh well.<< Hi Vince, Do you mean 'stranger', or 'stronger'? And OF COURSE you can discuss what you want here; all I'm asking is that you don't spoil it for smurf and my good self. Flag it correctly and I'll skip it, no problem. I'd be happy to talk about anything in the first 4 series. mike in bcn np Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:16:55 -0500 From: "Michael R. Moore" Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Greetings -- Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep hearing that she did record it. Thanks! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:54:40 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc the wind brings change last night a very windy night 11:22 pm Richard Rizzo. . . my father February 21, 1935 - March 14, 2006 ~ _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:02:58 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? > Greetings -- > > Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded "Leaving on a Jet > Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep hearing that she did > record it. > > Thanks! > > Michael > Michael, Maybe you are referring to Get Together, which she did in concert and exists on several bootleg recordings, but have never heard of Joni singing Leaving On a Jet Plane. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:10:50 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Half Baked or NJC lol! Laura are you trying to tell us that nun fantasies are not allowed?? :) Em - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Bree wrote: > > Lol here...no..just her veil. In fact..she told us she had just > cut her > own hair. She had very beautiful hair...it looked like it had > been cut > by a professional. She was pretty neat ...we got into politics a > little...she is definitely to the left...I liked her. > > > > Bree, > > She's celibate. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:41:16 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: njc Great God in heaven I love you Happy Ides of March everyone! Hey, well I'm the friendly stranger in the black sedan Oh won't you hop inside my car I got pictures, got candy, I am a lovable man I'd like to take you to the nearest star I'm your vehicle baby I'll take you anywhere you wanna go I'm your vehicle woman By now I'm sure you know That I love ya (love you) I need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you Well if you want to be a movie star I got the ticket to Hollywood Well if you want to stay just like you are You know I think you really should I'm your vehicle baby I'll take you anywhere you wanna go I'm your vehicle woman By now I'm sure you know That I love ya (love you) I need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you Oh you know I do Well I'm the friendly stranger in the black sedan Oh won't you hop inside my car I got pictures, candy, I am a lovable man I'd like to take you to the nearest star I'm your vehicle babe I'll take you anywhere you wanna go I'm your vehicle woman By now I'm sure you know That I love ya (love you) I need ya (need you) I want to, I got to have ya Great God in heaven, you know I love you And I'm your vehicle babe You know I love ya (love you) I need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you - -- http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Half Baked or NJC / apologies I feel terrible - I posted this before reading Marianne's post about her father. sorry to be a sleaze at such a sad time. My apologies. Em - --- Em wrote: > lol! Laura are you trying to tell us that nun fantasies are not > allowed?? > :) > Em > > --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > > Bree wrote: > > > > Lol here...no..just her veil. In fact..she told us she had just > > cut her > > own hair. She had very beautiful hair...it looked like it had > > been cut > > by a professional. She was pretty neat ...we got into politics > a > > little...she is definitely to the left...I liked her. > > > > > > > > Bree, > > > > She's celibate. > > > > Love, > > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:08:29 -0500 From: "Michael R. Moore" Subject: Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Thanks, Jerry -- must be a bootleg. I found a partial MP3 file of her singing "Leaving on a Jet Plane" -- just 1:04 long -- but haven't been able to figure out where it's from. Thanks again, Michael At 9:02 AM -0500 3/15/06, Jerry Notaro wrote: > > Greetings -- >> >> Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded "Leaving on a Jet > > Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep hearing that she did > > record it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Michael >> >Michael, > >Maybe you are referring to Get Together, which she did in concert and exists >on several bootleg recordings, but have never heard of Joni singing Leaving >On a Jet Plane. > >Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:35:19 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Sweet 16 Vol 1 - uploaded again For those of you who didn't or couldn't download it, here it is again http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FUVUYCLH6YEF0GZ3T8RL1UKVC Happy Ides, Brian - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:57:55 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: njc, death and rebirth and death and rebirth Dear Patti, Thank you for writing such a deep and thought provoking post. It really touched my heart dear friend. I apologize but I had to copy it in its entirety so that others will know of what I speak. My stepmother lost her sister yesterday to Parkinson's Disease. My step-sister was not aware that someone could die from it. They are full of many emotions. My step mother has gone inward while my step-sister is just plain angry without knowing why. I absolutely love what you are saying here; "with death comes a rebirth". I have never been able to put that thought into words but you capture it perfectly. I also love how you call up related Joni lyrics so quickly and perfectly. You drive those lyrics back into our heart and remeind us why we love her music so much. This book by Joan Didion sounds like it is a very good one. I would like to read it because the excerpt definitely speaks to my heart. Even though my parents have been gone for a while, sometimes, I still grieve for them as if it were yesterday. I have up moments and then I have moments when I feel terribly alone even in a crowd. How does one go on living life to the fullest? I tell myself that is what my parents would want for me. On some days, it helps and on others...it tries really hard. I had a similar experience described in the excerpt with my mother a day after her death when I thought I hear the click of her sandals on the kitchen floor and turned suddenly to look for her. It was hard to realize she really wasn't there. It was all of the things that are described here. I can't tell you how grateful to have such a community to help me figure out how to live after the death of a loved one. I am thankful Patti that you and Marianne are able to be there for each other and help each other through. My heart also goes out to Mark E. and to Paz as well as anyone else here still grieving heavily for a loved one. I think we need this time to embrace th is sorrow we feel and to help each other grow with it and become stronger and stronger. ..."Don't Interrupt the sorrow...darn right..." Sherelle Dear Patti wrote: READER BEWARE: I'm digging down deep, losing good sleep, making me heavy company, so scroll on by if you want to "...Keep things light Keep your worries out of sight And play it cool..." Our Marianne wrote: with death comes rebirth. . it is not just a death day or a death week. . it is a death couple of months and it might be a death year. . . - - ---------------- Sweet Marianne: I know, I know. A death month...a death year....hmmmm...."A Year of Magical Thinking" by Joan Didion. Has anyone read it? I have not yet, but saw an excerpt that made me think of Joni's lyrics (there is not much that does not make me think of her lyrics!) and my own recent experience: People will tell you where they've gone They'll tell you where to go But til you get there yourself you never really know. Now read this from Joan Didion's book: "Grief turns out to be a place none of us know until we reach it. We anticipate (we know) that someone close to us could die, but we do not look beyond the few days or weeks that immediately follow such an imagined death. We misconstrue the nature of even those few days or weeks. We might expect if the death is sudden to feel shock. We do not expect this shock to be obliterative, dislocating to both body and mind. We might expect that we will be prostrate, inconsolable, crazy with loss. We do not expect to be literally crazy, cool customers who believe that their husband is about to return and need his shoes. . . . Nor can we know ahead of the fact (and here lies the heart of the difference between grief as we imagine it and grief as it is) the unending absence that follows, the void, the very opposite of meaning, the relentless succession of moments during which we will confront the experience of meaninglessness itself." (Phew. Now I have to close my eyes and take a moment of silence and reflection.) Marianne and I have been comforting each other a lot -- quelle coincidence that both of our dads are named Richard, and that we are going through this same "year of magical thinking". The last time I saw my Richard was in August of 2005 in his kitchen, when we said what we both *knew* (but left unspoken) was our final goodbye. Our usual one hug goodbye turned into four because I kept going back for more, knowing they were our last. (Ouch ouch ouch.) I also just shared with Marianne (and no one else in my "normal" life, because who else would understand?) how the other night the wind was in from Utah -- last night I couldn't sleep -- and how I was hearing, over and over and over again, Joni's voice singing in my head..."ooooh love is gone, love is gone....written on your spirit this sad song....love is gone....written on your spirit this sad song....love is gone...". It was beginning to drive me crazy because I could not shut it off and get some sleep. But finally I did, and the next morning I woke up feeling a teeny bit more peaceful, as if Joni *made* me feel this harsh reality as a way to process it and accept it. Now it is a tattoo. (Am I making any sense?) This experience is so deeply personal, but also so universal. I have been comforted by so many of you who have "been there". Words that especially spoke to me, and keep me feeling half-way sane, are these, from a wonderfully wise JMDL woman: "When I lost my father I felt a little disconnected in a metaphysical way for awhile but gradually the pieces that shatter begin to reform and reintegrate. I also feel that he is still with me - just in another place." Holy Joni, is that helpful!!! Thank you, Joni Sister! I know no one's going to show me everything, but you really showed me a lot with that. And now my heart goes out to Mark E. again (both of us had to hurriedly fly out to four-letter states that begin and end with vowel sounds) and especially to dear Paz on his funereal flights, just beginning this long journey in the "year of magical thinking." Bless you both, and your families. A big hug to all, with apologies for being so heavy and oversharing today. (Do you think I need to learn to open up a little more?) But, hey -- Marianne started it!!!! Love, Patti P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:34:49 +0000 From: ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? I have an MP3 that claims to be Joni singing this song but I have to say it doesn't sound like her. Ric >-- Original Message -- >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:16:55 -0500 >To: joni@smoe.org >From: "Michael R. Moore" >Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? >Reply-To: "Michael R. Moore" > > >Greetings -- > >Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded "Leaving on a Jet >Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep hearing that she did >record it. > >Thanks! > >Michael ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:45:30 -0500 From: "Michael R. Moore" Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Ric, funny you'd say that. When I *first* heard it I thought, *geez, that sounds like Rickie Lee Jones.* Maybe it is? Michael At 4:34 PM +0000 3/15/06, ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >I have an MP3 that claims to be Joni singing this song but I have to say >it doesn't sound like her. > >Ric > >>-- Original Message -- >>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:16:55 -0500 >>To: joni@smoe.org >>From: "Michael R. Moore" >>Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? >>Reply-To: "Michael R. Moore" >> >> >>Greetings -- >> >>Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded "Leaving on a Jet >>Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep hearing that she did >>record it. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Michael > > >___________________________________________________________ > >Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! >http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:46:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: fathers njc >After Kira posted, the words to a song started coming in to my head, but it took me all day to figure out whose song it was. Mike and the Mechanics' "Living years" was the song. "Every generation blames the one before, And all of our frustrations come beating on your door, I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father held so dear, I know that I'm a hostage to all his hopes and fears, I just wish I could have told him in the living years."< I remember hearing that song played often in the house of a friend coming to terms with his father's death & who I am sure was inspired by that song when he later wrote: In my voice, in my smile, In the eyes of my eldest child, You appear every year in my life. In a dream, I have now, Standing still in my father's house, And I try another time to walk away. I learned that music and laughter, From the child that you hid in your eyes, And it's his song that I sing, Now who will sing for me? All my life, no voice inside, has whispered, "set me free", All this time, has it been, you or me. I wait for someone to save me, Just like you did all your life, And will I find my home, But I alone, like you. My father's house from the album Leap of faith by kenny loggins If you have read this far you should listen to him sing this song...xo kate [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:01:58 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Hmmm... I must side with Jerry on this one - I sort of doubt the existence of this recording. But I'd love to be pleasantly surprised! Les At 9:02 AM -0500 3/15/06, Jerry Notaro wrote: >Maybe you are referring to Get Together, which she did in concert and >exists on several bootleg recordings, but have never heard of Joni >singing Leaving On a Jet Plane. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:13:22 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Huskies Valerie said she wants the wrapper for her bulletin board at school, and she's picking the Huskies to go all the way in the NCAA. Don't let her down. Love & Peace from SC, Bob Don't worry, Bob. I won't let her down. I do my best -- and I do good business! Darn right! ; ) Stoking the star-rebounding Huskies, behind the popular song...... http://www.uconnalumni.com/uconn_spirit/fight_song1.cfm Valerie is a wise woman, and she's in good company. Remember the link I sent a few weeks ago about Jason, the autistic h.s. school student from Breeandmarianneville (Rochester, NY) who made all those three-pointers in his own shining hour? He was on Good Morning America today, and picked UConn to go all the way. And more good company, as I wrote in my Dad's obituary: "He enjoyed cheering for the (NY Mets and) UConn Huskies." I'm very touched that you Tarheels are rooting for our Huskies, especially since we're in the same bracket. What if we play each other? "Will you still love me tomorrow?" Love from Huskyland, Patti P. NPIMH: BEACH BOYS .....So be true to your school now Just like you would to your girl or guy Be true to your school now And let your colors fly..... Oh yeah! Our colors are BLUE and white! Yes, 'tis true! That's why I chose UConn, because of their Joni BLUE! (LOL!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? I suspect - and would be willing to bet large amounts of money (that I don't have, so it's all moot) - that this is one of those songs inappropriately attributed to Joni, the kind you can get off Kazaa and similar websites, and that never get corrected because they spread quickly. Joni has also incorrectly been identified as the singer on "One tin soldier" (in fact recorded by The Original Caste and Coven). Interesting how someone somewhere thought the singer sounded like Joni - I never could hear Joni in that. - --- ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > I have an MP3 that claims to be Joni singing this > song but I have to say > it doesn't sound like her. > > Ric > > >-- Original Message -- > >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:16:55 -0500 > >To: joni@smoe.org > >From: "Michael R. Moore" > >Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? > >Reply-To: "Michael R. Moore" > > > > > >Greetings -- > > > >Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded > "Leaving on a Jet > >Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep > hearing that she did > >record it. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Michael > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:35:40 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? Maybe it's the Chantal Kreviazuk version you heard? - --- "Michael R. Moore" wrote: > Ric, funny you'd say that. > > When I *first* heard it I thought, *geez, that > sounds like Rickie Lee > Jones.* Maybe it is? > > Michael > > At 4:34 PM +0000 3/15/06, > ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > >I have an MP3 that claims to be Joni singing this > song but I have to say > >it doesn't sound like her. > > > >Ric Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:42:03 GMT From: "Ruth Davis" Subject: Re: Talking bout my generation NJC I am a "child of the 60's" and although I was still 12 when the '70's dawned, I remember the time well - the agony and the ecstasy of it. It was a better zeitgeist than the twilight zone we are in now. The music was great - I was in love with the Beatles when I was 7, and I actually got to see the Doors in Hawaii just before i left there (I went with my sisters, my Dad was out of town.) However, I think this broad brush generalization of the "Boomer" generation is a load of hokum. When I got to high school, there were still some hippiesque kids, but I never considered myself a hippie. That was my older sister's (born 1949) territory. I think of myself as being more of the Watergate generation, which I guess is a later subset of boomerdom. Maybe that gives me an edge of cynicism. Also, I think the stereotypical hippie image probably only applies to those 60's children who are of the middle class and above. Were 60's kids of the working class interested in karma, horoscopes, vegetarianism, Tantric sex, etc.? [Oops, my bad, we don't HAVE "social classes" in the U.S.A. Inc., or so I am told.] Anyway, real hippies were probably only about 2% of the whole boomer cohort. There are broad social movements that have far reaching effects, but this cookie cutter idea that everyone of a certain age has the same attitudes is whack. It is likewise whack to condemn a whole cohort in that way. Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:20:45 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: craig armstrong njc Lots of music and tunes on Limewire are mislabeled. While on a search for something else found one such. Usually delete them when I found out they aren't what I was looking for. This particular tune is by a man called Craig Armstrong and the tune is 'Let's Go Out Tonight.' He sings the shit out of it. Very, very good. A keeper. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:24:47 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Half baked / apologies njc Sleaze, didn't bother me. XO From: Em >I feel terrible - I posted this before reading Marianne's post about >her father. >sorry to be a sleaze at such a sad time. >My apologies. >Em _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:30:17 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? NJC I think it's John Denver singing falsetto, myself. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:25 PM To: ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk; Michael R. Moore; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? I suspect - and would be willing to bet large amounts of money (that I don't have, so it's all moot) - that this is one of those songs inappropriately attributed to Joni, the kind you can get off Kazaa and similar websites, and that never get corrected because they spread quickly. Joni has also incorrectly been identified as the singer on "One tin soldier" (in fact recorded by The Original Caste and Coven). Interesting how someone somewhere thought the singer sounded like Joni - I never could hear Joni in that. - --- ric.pompeyfan@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > I have an MP3 that claims to be Joni singing this > song but I have to say > it doesn't sound like her. > > Ric > > >-- Original Message -- > >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:16:55 -0500 > >To: joni@smoe.org > >From: "Michael R. Moore" > >Subject: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? > >Reply-To: "Michael R. Moore" > > > > > >Greetings -- > > > >Anyone know when or where Joni may have recorded > "Leaving on a Jet > >Plane"? Can't seem to find it on a CD, but keep > hearing that she did > >record it. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Michael > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:00:22 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, wasted away in breeandmariannaville What in the world ever became of our sweet Janes? They've lost their sparkle, you know they aren't the same Living on Raid, chunky ice-cream and red wine All a friend can say is "ain't it a shame." And now they are defrocking sweet innocent nuns? Holy Milk of the Madonna...clandestine! I think we should put out an APBS on them. That poor lady on the phone! Mail me, don't mail me, mail me, don't mail me...you took your contradictions out and splashed them on her brow. Just trying to keep the good feelings alive up there, like it was something to strive for, Patti P., wondering if two heads really *are* better than one ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:35:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: fathers njc - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > >After Kira posted, the words to a song started > coming > in to my head, but it took me all day to figure out > whose song it was. Mike and the Mechanics' "Living > years" was the song. > > "Every generation blames the one before, > And all of our frustrations come beating on your > door, > I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father held so > dear, > I know that I'm a hostage to all his hopes and > fears, > I just wish I could have told him in the living > years."< > > I remember hearing that song played often in the > house of a friend coming to > terms with his father's death & who I am sure was > inspired by that song when > he later wrote: > > In my voice, in my smile, > In the eyes of my eldest child, > You appear every year in my life. > > In a dream, I have now, > Standing still in my father's house, > And I try another time to walk away. > > I learned that music and laughter, > From the child that you hid in your eyes, > And it's his song that I sing, > Now who will sing for me? > > All my life, no voice inside, > has whispered, "set me free", > All this time, has it been, you or me. > > I wait for someone to save me, > Just like you did all your life, > And will I find my home, > But I alone, like you. > > My father's house from the album Leap of faith by > kenny loggins > > If you have read this far you should listen to him > sing this song...xo kate And tying it in with Smurf's post about Jane Siberry's "When I was a boy", I've mentioned before, but will say it again that, when my mother was dying, and just after she died, I listened to "when I was a boy" constantly throughout the whole business of visitations, going to the florist, going back and forth between my own home (my kids were both very young then) and so on. It was very cathartic. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Kenny Loggins' "This is it" was also written about his Dad, when his Dad was ill or dying. Maybe you can ask him when you speak to him! I always loved that song. There have been times in my life I've been wondering why Still somehow I believed We'd always survive Now I'm not so sure You're waiting to hear One good reason to try But what more can I say What's left to provide You think that maybe it's over Only if you want it to be Are you gonna wait for your sign, your miracle Stand up and fight This is it Make no mistake where you are This is it Your back's to the corner This is it Don't be a fool anymore This is it The waiting is over No room to run No way to hide No time for wondering why It's here The moment is now About to decide Let him believe Or leave him behind But keep me near in your heart And know, whatever you do I'm here by your side You said that maybe it's over Not if you don't want it to be For once in your life, here's your miracle Stand up and fight This is it Make no mistake where you are This is it You're going no further This is it Until it's over and done No one can tell you what you know Who makes the choice of how it goes It's not up to me this time You know There comes a day in every life This is it Make no mistake where you are This is it You're going no further This is it Until it's over and done This is it One way or another This is it No one can tell what the future holds This is it Your back's to the corner This is it You make the choice of how it goes This is it The waiting is over This is it No one can tell what the future holds This is it You're going no further Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:17:38 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: "Leaving on a Jet Plane"? > Ric, funny you'd say that. > > When I *first* heard it I thought, *geez, that sounds like Rickie Lee > Jones.* Maybe it is? > > Michael ==Rickie Lee does indeed sing the tune and does a fine job with it. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:25:03 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Latest news from JoniMitchell.com The Mendel Art Gallery of Saskatoon presents: The Amazing Childhood of Joni Mitchell March 17 to May 22, 2006 As part of the Mendel Art Gallerys Naked City series, The Amazing Childhood of Joni Mitchell is presented in celebration of Saskatoons centenary, and in conjunction with COOLART 06 (formerly School Art), the Gallerys annual showcase of artwork produced in local schools by Saskatoon's creative youth. This special collection of photographs, drawings, writings and other memorabilia, on loan from Myrtle and Bill Anderson, provides an intimate glimpse into the formative years and childhood imagination of their world-famous daughter, the legendary musician, songwriter, poet and visual artist Joni Mitchell. Joni was born Roberta Joan Anderson on November 7, 1943, in Fort McLeod, Alberta, but grew up in Saskatchewan. Her parents moved around a lot, living in Creelman, Maidstone and North Battleford, before settling in Saskatoon when she was eleven years old. Joni proudly considers Saskatoon her hometown. This exhibition documents Jonis youth from infancy to high school years, and derives from a scrapbook lovingly compiled by Myrtle Anderson and titled The Life and Times of Roberta Joan Anderson. Myrtle, a teacher who taught grades one through eight in a one-room rural schoolhouse, describes her young daughter as having been "precocious, strong-minded, always talking and busy, busy, busy." For Anne Bayan, Jonis long-time childhood friend, "she was a force of nature... magnetic, daring and inventive." The sources of Jonis numerous artistic and creative adult accomplishments may be found in some indissoluble blend of the effects of nature and nurture. As for early influences, she was an only child, and her supportive parents provided her with many opportunities. Starting with a small blackboard as a gift for her second birthday, Myrtle made sure her daughter had art supplies and even let her paint a tree on her bedroom wall. Jonis friends and peers recognized her talent for drawing, and, as she had an early predilection for music, which may have been inherited from both of her grandmothers, she was given piano lessons at age seven. The Andersons also thought it important that Joni experience the world beyond Saskatchewan and took vacations in the United States, where she saw the Lewis and Clark Caverns and a geyser in Yellowstone National Park. Like all children, she enjoyed playing dress-up and making angels in the snow. Her father, Bill, a grocer who played the trumpet, made a bowling alley in the basement of their home, and she became an excellent bowler, playing on a team and winning several trophies. Outside of her parents, there were other important influences. Playmates Frankie McKitrick and Peter Armstrong shared their passion for music and she was fortunate in grade seven, at Queen Elizabeth Public School, to have had an exceptionally responsive teacher named Arthur Kratzman. His advice to her was to "write and paint in your own blood." But perhaps the most profound experience that shaped Jonis creative sensibility occurred when she was hospitalized with polio at age nine. She states, "Polio probably did me good.... I drew like crazy and sang Christmas carols to the other patients.... The creative process was an urgency...a survival instinct.... I believe convalescence in bed develops a strong inner life in a young child. I think it solidified me as an independent thinker. Nietzche was a convalescent." The creative impulse is a quintessential attribute of all children, who have an honest sensitivity to, and unbridled curiosity about the world around them. In early childhood there is an easy, natural commerce among expressive media  singing, dancing, role playing, drawing  which develops out of personal experience and serves as a natural means for working out various potent themes in a childs life. As adults, we can learn much from the depth of perception and emotional honesty expressed in the imaginative play of children, which for many people seems to progressively wane as they grow older. This exhibition suggests that the interdisciplinary relationship between music, poetry and visual art that is fundamental to Joni Mitchells unique genius had its impetus in the artists childhood, reinforcing a theory posited by Edith Cobb (The Ecology of Imagination in Childhood), that adult creativity is built upon a childhood sense of self and world. Although childhood is so short-lived in terms of time, it is lasting in impact and memory. As Joni herself states, "you carry your childhood with you.... When the spirit of child's play enters into the creative process, it's a wonderful force and something to be nurtured." The Mendel Art Gallery is delighted to be working with Joni Mitchell on the creation of "The Joni Mitchell Cafi", as part of the plans for an expanded facility. This unique, multi-sensory space of image, word and sound will celebrate the creative spirit through the telling of Jonis story, and provide a pilgrimage destination for her many fans around the world. Terry Graff, Executive Director & CEO Seventy-Seven Signs Ltd. & Mastergraph Inc. are gratefully acknowledged as exhibition sponsor for The Amazing Childhood of Joni Mitchell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:32:17 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Slouching Towards Bethlehem Sherelle wrote (among other beautiful heartfelt stuff): This book by Joan Didion sounds like it is a very good one. I would like to read it because the excerpt definitely speaks to my heart. - ------ You know how I compared her one paragraph to Joni lyrics? I just learned that Joan Didion wrote a book of essays called "Slouching Towards Bethlehem." This may be common knowledge here but it's new to me. (Am I living in a dream these days?) Joan and Joni. Interesting, non? Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, Huskies 'Fraid not...you would see some hot blazes go down in smoke and ash. I'd pull for the Heels, but then I'd be happy for you if the Huskies pulled it off. And I must be getting a mild case of JMOCD, when I was munching on that yummy Huskies candy bar I felt like a kid in the train station in "Just Like This Train". Bob NP: Loretta Lynn, "Trouble On The Line" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:11:11 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Huskies >'Fraid not...you would see some hot blazes go >down in smoke and ash. I'd pull for the Heels, >but then I'd be happy for you if the Huskies >pulled it off. Way to be, Bob, because jealous lovin'll drive you crazy! xo, pp, jmocd'ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:17:05 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! sorry Patti. This is the Zag's year. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Good news - Bad News - Good news! Well, I was all excited today because I got my cd's from cdbaby - I had ordered (4) last Friday, including the Randall-Claudia CD. Well, the Bad News was THAT one was NOT included. But, the GOOD news is that they wrote a note that it was backordered and that they would ship it to me ASAP which means that they must have sold out of this one in short order. Pretty neat - congratulations, Claudia - looks like you & Randall are #1 with a bullet. Bob NP: Gomez, "Get Miles" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc Great God in heaven I love you Hey Vince, if you love that song like I do, check out the latest podcast of Coverville: http://www.coverville.com/ He kicks off the show with a really nice acapella + electric guitar solo version. The show also has a great cover by Terence Trent D'Arby of one of my favorite songs, Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come". Bob NP: The Band, "Acadian Driftwood" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:11:55 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! Vince writes: > sorry Patti. > > This is the Zag's year. Patti, even though I'm a Gator fan and hope they can make it all the way, I'm also a UConn fan (even though their hearts didn't seem to be in the last few games they played) However Vince, I hope Gonzaga loses in the first round, especially when they played St. Mary's last month and the Gonzaga fans were shouting "Brokeback Mountain" suggesting that some of the opposing players were gay. What's up with that? http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11349569/ Whatever happened to "Jump ball, get it"? If the Gonzaga fans are like that, I really hope they lose. The players probably don't support these incredibly stupid cheers, but I still hope they lose!!!! Jimmy, an avid NCAA basketball fan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:20:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Ian Shaw news & an interview link Only a couple of weeks until Ian Shaw's Joni tribute CD is available (April 3)- they are taking advance orders now, and they have an expanded section listing all the tracks: http://www.linnrecords.com/cd_information/cd_information.asp?RecordingID=372 Plus, Part 1 of a 2-part interview with Ian about the project: http://www.linnrecords.com/news/news_item_viewer.asp?NewsID=164 Bob NP: Cowboy Junkies, "Dark Hole Again" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:00:50 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! Sorry guys, Longhorns are the ticket. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:37:44 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc "is that all there is?"" these 46 years with him _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:42:59 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc nothing was all perfect. . ./ but I rejoice at the love that has brought me this pain. . . _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:04:37 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: njc Great God in heaven I love you I love that song only on March 15th which is the Ides of March which makes me think of Ides of March and I start humming Vehicle and I'm sorry, I am really lame. This is also the only day of the year that I remember that I saw them in concert, twice. Thanks for the link! Bob Muller wrote: >Hey Vince, if you love that song like I do, check >out the latest podcast of Coverville: > >http://www.coverville.com/ > >He kicks off the show with a really nice acapella >+ electric guitar solo version. The show also has >a great cover by Terence Trent D'Arby of one of >my favorite songs, Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna >Come". > >Bob > >NP: The Band, "Acadian Driftwood" >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:06:36 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: njc, Huskies? Gonzaga! Jimmy, I was not aware of that incident until you informed me. I of course stand corrected by that reality of which I was unaware. My apologies to you and Patti and everyone. Vince FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Vince writes: > >> sorry Patti. >> >> This is the Zag's year. > > > > Patti, even though I'm a Gator fan and hope they can make it all the > way, I'm also a UConn fan (even though their hearts didn't seem to be > in the last few games they played) However Vince, I hope Gonzaga > loses in the first round, especially when they played St. Mary's last > month and the Gonzaga fans were shouting "Brokeback Mountain" > suggesting that some of the opposing players were gay. What's up with > that? > > http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11349569/ > > Whatever happened to "Jump ball, get it"? If the Gonzaga fans are > like that, I really hope they lose. The players probably don't > support these incredibly stupid cheers, but I still hope they lose!!!! > > Jimmy, > an avid NCAA basketball fan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:21:28 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Marianne's dad No matter about all this NCAA stuff... I just got an email from Marianne...her dad's obituary. You all know already, probably, but I did not because I'm on digest. I immediately started weeping (the tears flow down like tears) and called Bree's cellphone (I had her number from the Tribute, but have never spoken to her "live" before). No answer, and I left no message, but then she called me back, and I started crying and saying how sorry I am and blathering on and then she said: Who is this? I said: It's Patti. (Kind of funny, no?) And she said: "Oh, I thought so." We had a nice conversation, and I think they are okay. Marianne is sleeping now. And I should be, too. I'm too raw, I think it's all too raw. Sorry for oversharing. This is just too "deja vous all over again". Donna B., are you okay, honey? I'm thinking of you, too. And you know there may be more.... Love to all, Patti P., all emotions and abstractions ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:51:26 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: njc, Marianne's dad I just have to say this....and I told Patti privately.. this place has become a bit brighter since she signed up on the JMDL. She had the urge for calling and that's just what she did. I feel like an idiot for saying who is this. I think I knew but was afraid to get it wrong. She's a person who feels everything..feels for people..I could hear in he voice. Thanks..again...anytime... Love... Bree >I just got an email from Marianne...her dad's obituary. You all know >already, probably, but I did not because I'm on digest. I immediately >started weeping (the tears flow down like tears) and called Bree's >cellphone (I had her number from the Tribute, but have never spoken to her >"live" before). No answer, and I left no message, but then she called me >back, and I started crying and saying how sorry I am and blathering on and >then she said: > >Who is this? > >I said: It's Patti. > >(Kind of funny, no?) > >And she said: "Oh, I thought so." > >We had a nice conversation, and I think they are okay. Marianne is >sleeping now. > >And I should be, too. I'm too raw, I think it's all too raw. > >Sorry for oversharing. This is just too "deja vous all over again". Donna >B., are you okay, honey? I'm thinking of you, too. And you know there may >be more.... > >Love to all, > >Patti P., all emotions and abstractions ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #96 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------