From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #94 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 14 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 094 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets [B] Broken link: siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm [Patti Witten ] Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets [Kerry <] Re: Oh man, too much to catch up on . . . . . . [Em ] RE: imposter, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] A tear for Anna Moffo NJC ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [PMcfad@aol.com] Re: Oh man, too much to catch up on . . . . . . NJC [Em ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: A tear for Anna Moffo NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC [Jerry Notaro ] RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC [Smurf ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Joni and Mariah [Jerry Notaro ] 5:12Pm thoughts [Peep Richman ] South by Southwest Music Festival [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni and Mariah [Randy Remote ] Re: njc Sopranos [Dflahm@aol.com] the amazing JMDL, sjc [LCStanley7@aol.com] March on.... NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] RE: was Health Insurance, now Mozart, still NJC - attn PATRICK and KAY [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:27:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets You sure it wasn't "It's Hard Out here For A Pimp"? Thanks for the cool report, glad y'all had a good time together. Bob NP: Cheap Trick, "Mandocello" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:55:40 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Broken link: siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org wrote: > Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) Yes, she is. But this link needs to be updated. It's at the bottom of the list digests. In other news, Sue McNamara and I will be hosting another Only Joni Open Mic, this time during the day, in a student union building on Cornell University campus in Ithaca NY on Wed. April 5. Sue's all excited (as she should be) cuz she gets to use her new @jonimitchell.com email address in the publicity. How cool is that? Viva la Joan! Mmmwha! Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:10:47 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: imposter, njc when you hear the word imposter, who do you think of? curious here. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:29:04 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets Smurf wrote: One more thing . . . I listened to Jane Siberry's "When I Was a Boy" about 40 times this weekend and I have to ask what the hell is in Canadian water that makes great singer/songwriters sprout up left and right up there? You can also go to the Jane's site if you don't know her work and download music for nothing, or pay for it, or whatever. >Yes! Jane is wonderful. Not only is she practically giving her music away, she is >homeless. See recent story in the Milwaukee Journal: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=404558 I just got to see her in concert about a week ago. The seats were general admission, so we went right up to the front row! It was one of the best, most entrancing concerts I have ever attended. Our paper actually gave her a great review. It sums up the experience perfectly: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=405998 Kerry - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:45:07 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Oh man, too much to catch up on . . . . . . In my post, the only reason I referred to "my generation" is to zero in on a countable quantity. Demograhics, I guess you could say. I, myself, am actually a bit too young to have been part of the 60's thing. I was only 10 when the year turned to 1970. But demographically am still in that "baby boom". So in that post, I was only referring to the huge numbers of people around my age, and not alluding to any greatness of any other kind. At least not this time! I always did look up to the crop of artists (all kinds of artists) who are about 15 years older than myself though, who were already young adults as the 60's went by. Anyway, your generation is REALLY gonna resent the heck out of some of the boomers when we are sooooooooo messed up and old and have no money we can barely move, and there are trillions of us. I'm sure by that time we will have figured out something. Some new "ultimate solution". Anyway, I'm pretty sure that whatever post of mine you are talking about, this time anyway, I only meant to refer to my gen. in a demographic sense - and not in a "look at us we were so groovy" sense. Cuz I was not there for the actual 60's grooviness, was just watching it through the eyes of a child. But demographically I am still in with that "generation" - altho really, the boomers encompass more than one generation. I think an early boomer could have given birth to a late boomer. Thats just my take. Sorry you are resentful. Em - --- Snapple1984@aol.com wrote: > Em, as regards "your generation" - I'm not sure what generation that > is > exactly, but many of the songs I write are about the relationship > between the > baby boomer generation and my own, > yet-to-be-named-born-in-1985-generation. I > think many people of my generation feel a certain resentment towards > the > children of the 60s because they often tend to act like their > generation was the > best and most influential ever. Of course, they lived in the shadow > of "The > Greatest Generation" - those of the Depression and World War II. As > I am > writing this, "Fiddle and the Drum" is playing - just by chance. I > know so many > people who protested th Vietnam War who seem to just protest for the > sake of > protesting. I believe that if America can create any kind of > change, the > baby boomer generation and my generation must stop being competitive > and work > together. Maybe that sounds namby-pamby, but I believe it's true. > Again, > I'm not saying the 60s and 70s didn't bring about many incredibly > important > changes, ch anges from which I myself have benefited, but sometimes > it seems > that generation must live in the present, not the 60s - and my > generation must > stop trying to prove themselves. Social activism and social justice > should > be about just that, not about image. I know this isn't what you > were talking > about, but the generational talk seemed appropriate. > > Peace and Love :) - Kira (the child of boomers) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:51:15 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: imposter, njc Bush! ;-) >when you hear the word imposter, who do you think of? > > > >curious here. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:08:41 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc with death comes rebirth. . it is not just a death day or a death week. . it is a death couple of months and it might be a death year. . . ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:10:09 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: A tear for Anna Moffo NJC Gang, On my morning drive to work yesterday, NPR announced the death last Thursday of Anna Moffo. She was born in PA in 1932 and became one of the most beautiful sopranos of her time. Her career was cut short by vocal and emotional problems If you get a chance to hear her 'Caro Nome' from the early 60's Solti recording of Rigoletto you might just be swept away. A beautiful woman with a ravishing voice. Give her a listen sometime. Love, Russ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:20:44 EST From: PMcfad@aol.com Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) We're not as exposed to the hit as in the UK because it's not getting the same air time over here. I liked the song and the guy, but the song is a little soft. A concert ran on digital cable here that I watched. He closed with a cover of the Pixies' Where Is My Mind. I love that song. Its one of those songs that gives me the chills. Very raw and un nerving. His cover was ok, but the fact that he chose to close his show with that makes me think there's something more in him than bubblegum. You cant like that song and not have something nasty or raw in your bones. Then, thinking about the PIxies, they were a reverse phenomenon. They never made it big in the US...and really you had to be into rough alternative to know them, but they were much bigger in the UK and still are cited as influences for lots of big time guys like Thom Yorke. Just a different opinion. pat In a message dated 3/12/2006 10:35:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:24:46 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: James Blunt (NJC) I've been out of the loop forever regarding new music these days, so forgive me if this has been mentioned before. I saw an episode of Oprah last week and there was a fellow on by the name of James Blunt. He did a song called "You're Beautiful" that really struck me. I guess it's way up there up on the Billboard charts, but as I said, I'm so out of the loop I wouldn't have known. Has anyone heard this song? And any thoughts on this artist? My first impression, at least, is that I was impressed! Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Oh man, too much to catch up on . . . . . . NJC I had written: > Thats just my take. > Sorry you are resentful.> after Kira wrote as part of her post : > I > > think many people of my generation feel a certain resentment > towards > > the > > children of the 60s because they often tend to act like their > > generation was the > > best and most influential ever. Kira, I should not have assumed that you, yourself, Kira, are resentful, I guess, from your post. Sorry if that came across aggro. I shouldn't even attempt posting on Monday a.m.'s. Brain is full of..I don't know what, but its not clear. One more thought tho, I think its fairly normal for a generation to be somewhat reentful and very questioning of their parents' generation. Its nothing new. Was listening to "Sugar Mountain" yesterday...led me to think about the days when so many of us used to fight and fight and fight with our fathers. heartbreaking and very damaging stuff sometimes. Now we just wish our fathers wouldn't die. Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:33:19 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: A tear for Anna Moffo NJC So glad someone else shed a tear reading her obituary. She was a great singer. Jerry > Gang, > > On my morning drive to work yesterday, NPR announced the death last > Thursday of Anna Moffo. She was born in PA in 1932 and became one of the > most beautiful sopranos of her time. Her career was cut short by vocal > and emotional problems If you get a chance to hear her 'Caro Nome' from > the early 60's Solti recording of Rigoletto you might just be swept > away. > > A beautiful woman with a ravishing voice. Give her a listen sometime. > > Love, > Russ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:39:50 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) > We're not as exposed to the hit as in the UK because it's not getting the > same air time over here. I liked the song and the guy, but the song is a > little soft. A concert ran on digital cable here that I watched. He closed > with > a cover of the Pixies' Where Is My Mind. I love that song. Its one of those > songs that gives me the chills. Very raw and un nerving. His cover was ok, > but the fact that he chose to close his show with that makes me think > there's something more in him than bubblegum. You cant like that song and > not have > something nasty or raw in your bones. Then, thinking about the PIxies, they > were a reverse phenomenon. They never made it big in the US...and really > you had to be into rough alternative to know them, but they were much bigger > in > the UK and still are cited as influences for lots of big time guys like Thom > Yorke. Just a different opinion. Pat Well I'm not into rough alternative (rough trade, maybe:) and I'm a huge Pixie fan here in America. I think they are pretty well known and respected here, and I agree if he is covering their material, then he is more than bubblegum and worth a listen. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:09:22 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC I ask any of you ...In what other country on the face of the earth can one become a travel agent in just one week!? I saw this advertisement in my inbox this morning and I thought only here..only here! But seriously....I read every line you wrote here and you got your points across very well. I have always admired people who can get their thought processes out so well on paper. It is a gift. My biggest complaint with SOME democrats/liberals is the whining..why so much whining? At times they seem so morose...humorless. Yes..this country has faults and has done some pretty grievous things...but for the most we try to right the wrong. The national civil rights act comes to mind. I don't know the statistics on how many people LEGALLY try to become citizens but I'm sure it's a fair amount. Illegally..by the hundreds in a day. A teacher I know tells her students that when saying the Pledge Of Allegiance that the students DON'T have to say ..WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL....because in this country there ISN'T liberty and justice for all. I say..yeah you are right...agreed... but WE at least are striving for that ...it's a lovely thing to strive for. But debate is good..I'm all for it I could have been born in Iraq .. where until just recently there was no debate. The biggest reason for the divide is just seeing the world differently..and thus clinging to our little pockets of truth. Bree > c. if the Democrat is annoying enough to >continue wondering about the truth of what the >official said, the next step is to mention the >economic system in the U.S., as in "it's better here >than anywhere else." Make it seem like the Democrat >would rather live in a totalitarian communist country. >Surely that's the ONLY reason the Democrat would >question anything about the perfect U.S. system. It's >a little old-fashioned these days, but it's now time >for the Republican to mention the word Marxist. > > d. if the Democrat still doesn't "get it", then >the Republican can call the Democrat unpatriotic, >although that may already have happened in step b. If >so, then it can be repeated here. There's no need to >get original. > > e. if the Democrat persists in wanting to >discuss what the official did versus what the official >said, then it's time to tell the Democrat that >everyone in the world wants to come to the U.S. so it >must be a great place. The Democrat will probably say, >yes, it is a great place, and there are many things >that could be done to make it even greater. > > i. The Republican will not hear any >agreement because the Republican is busy being full of >pride and thinking (briefly, in the seconds before the >immigrant issues kick in) of the huddled masses >yearning to be free and walk the paths of gold that >traverse the U.S., and isn't all that a wonderful >thing! God smiles on the U.S. God really loves us, >and maybe not all those other people. > > ii. While the Republican is puffed up, the >Democrat wonders how it can be that if "everyone" >wants to come to the U.S., there are still people in >places like England and France and Japan and all those >other crowded places in the world. They are sometimes >seen briefly in tv news reports. They do not look like >they're packing and getting ready to move. > > f. When the Democrat still is unable to believe >what the official has said because it does not match >what the official has done, then the Republican, who >has never addressed the actual issue, can pull out the >ultimate weapon. It's now time to mention.... CLINTON. >Either Clinton did it too or Clinton lied about it or >Clinton didn't do it either or maybe Clinton thought >about it one day. The Republican's tactic can now be, >LOOK AT CLINTON! > > g. If the Democrat does not want to look at >Clinton because what the current official said STILL >does not match what that official did, the Republican >can now pout and whine and complain that the Democrat >is insulting, angry, brittle, a harpy, a Marxist, a >defeatist, an isolationist, unpatriotic, unfeeling, >treasonous, and just a mean bad person. > >3. After the Democrat has left to go and talk to >someone who's actually aware of and thinking about >what's going on in the world, call yourself a member >of the party of ideas and pat yourself and all your >fellow Republicans on the back for it. > >These how tos will work on discussion lists, on tv, >and in publications. If an actual insight based on >evidence should intrude and rattle the Republican, >listening to Ann Coulter for ten seconds will ease the >Republican's discomfort, and be a quick refresher >course in the use of insults to demean anyone who >disagrees with whatever the official said, and thereby >manage to avoid discussing the actual issue >completely. After those ten seconds, the Republican >can once again say, ahhh, all's well in my Republican >world. > >These steps may need to be repeated. > >Debra Shea, >one of those curious, annoying, authority-questioning >Democrats >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:20:33 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: A tear for Anna Moffo NJC Sad to hear this. Yes, Anna Moffo's sound was like no other. Check out her still-beauty vocalization in Rachmaninoff's aptly titled "Vocalise". And much as I heard several versions of Villalobos' "Bachianas Brasileiras No. 5", Moffo's version is just haunting and sticks to memory. She was among her peers as Musetta in Votto's "La Boheme" (di Stefano as Rodolfo, Callas as Mimi). And speaking of the demise of great sopranos, I am still wondering why the family of the late great Birgit Nilsson refused to disclose the cause of death of this great Wagnerian soprano who passed on Christmas Day 2005. Joseph in Chapel Hill (who just got back from Chicago and marvels at the great urban planning of the city) Russell Bowden a icrit : Gang, On my morning drive to work yesterday, NPR announced the death last Thursday of Anna Moffo. She was born in PA in 1932 and became one of the most beautiful sopranos of her time. Her career was cut short by vocal and emotional problems If you get a chance to hear her 'Caro Nome' from the early 60's Solti recording of Rigoletto you might just be swept away. A beautiful woman with a ravishing voice. Give her a listen sometime. Love, Russ - --------------------------------- Nouveau : tiliphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Dicouvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Tilichargez la version beta. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:35:08 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC > My biggest complaint with SOME democrats/liberals is the whining..why so > much whining? At times they seem so morose...humorless. Yes..this > country has faults and has done some pretty grievous things...but for the > most we try to right the wrong. The national civil rights act comes to > mind. I guess the same could have been said about the democrats/liberals who whined and fought for those Civil Rights until they were fought for and won. There were plenty of immigrants fighting to get here, my great grandfather and great grandmother among them, but at the same time we were treating Black to segregation. Does that mean that those rights shouldn't have been whined about, or fought for, just because people were trying to get here because their own countries. They were coming here for economic, not social, opportunities, though many found discrimination similar to those afforded Blacks. Just 50 years ago the argument from Republican leaders was that Blacks were receiving separate, but equal, treatment so there was no need for civil rights laws. So I guess it where you are and where you come from as to whine about how hard and quickly we are fighting to right the wrong. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: From Personal Experience Regarding the state of things in this country I feel I have to chime in. I came to this country in 1969, I was a teenager then and felt like I'd been dropped into a maelstrom. The Vietnam War was raging on Television, there were heavy protests and Kent State was only a year away. I'd dropped myself into the Jimi Hendrix experience and found Joni for the first time in my life. Time warp with me if you will. I became a U.S. Citizen because I developed a deep love of this country and believed that if I were going to live here and be governed by the laws of this country I should have a say (vote) in who would be doing the governing. I have yet to miss even the smallest of opportunities to vote since I have had the right, feeling that the smaller local elections tend to impact me the most (property taxes, millages, school board etc.). Fast forward again please to a dark time in my life. I suffered a stroke. I was at work one day, covered by health insurance, a single mother of one son, receving a weekly paycheck, and then the rug came out from underneath me. I was talking on the phone to a customer and began to slur my words then got completely confused and couldn't remember what I was doing or saying. My boss tapped me on the shoulder, took the phone from me, made some excuse to the client and called 911. The next thing I remember is being in hospital. The point is that my life changed drastically at that moment in time. I was unable to work, no paycheck, unable to afford the COBRA to keep my health insurance at a time I needed it most. I couldn't afford groceries let alone a mortgage payment. So... what about welfare? I went, in my wheelchair, down to the welfare office where there were reams and reams of paperwork to fill out. I was told that I had to go to the job-programs office and get work to qualify for benefits. The fact that I wasn't able to work complicated things, the end-result was that I qualified for $10 a week in food stamps and that I should go to the Social Security offices to apply for SSI. I applied for SSI and was told that it would be upwards of 6 months to process the paperwork but that if they determined my claim was valid I would receive back-benefits. In the mean time I still had nothing. Had it not been for my mother's generosity I would have lost my home. Friends brought meals, the local school turned my name in to GoodWill so that I could have Christmas for my son that year. I cannot think of a time in my life where things looked so bleak. My mother also picked up the COBRA payments so that I wouldn't have to forgo medical treatment. Charity is something I never thought *I* would need but I swallowed my pride for the sake of my child. I think back on those days and wonder what might have happened to us if I didn't have anyone to help me. I was extremely fortunate to have a mother in a position to come to my aid but had she not, my life would have gone much differently. I have suffered three strokes over the years since that time, one more devastating than the others. I remarried and divorced again (that's a whole other story) spent several months in rehab and a considerable amount of time in a wheelchair... I work hard not to let it be too visible or hold me back. As a single mother I live close to the edge. Savings are practically non-existent, I have managed to hold onto my home and am now covered medically through government programs. I have not completely regained my health but most people would not know that I have issues, my disabilities are not "visible" to those who don't know me well. The cost of my monthly prescriptions (those that keep me feeling well and able to function) totals $1,580.00. If I had to pay for those myself I would be dead. I am now in a better place, physically. I had been putting a little money aside and was able to go to the Joni Tribute in New York (still paying the credit card bill for that one!) but it will be a long time before I'm able to splurge like that again. I have some close friends who have helped me both emotionally and in more tangible ways and I feel very lucky. It took me a while to get back on my feet but I'm doing OK now. This country provided me the means to improve my, seemingly impossible, situation, Yes, it was a slow process but there is so much fraud they have to do a thorough job of weeding through the bullshit to help those in genuine need. I may not ever be wealthy and I do without things I'd like to have but if it weren't for programs in place in this country I wouldn't have made it this far. Warmly, Cassy NP: The Right Stuff - Bryan Ferry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC Bree wrote: << My biggest complaint with SOME democrats/liberals is the whining..why so much whining? At times they seem so morose...humorless. >> Maybe it has to do with one's overall point of view, Bree, because I would be much more likely to use the words "whining," "humorless" and "morose" about Republicans and conservatives. And for ALL of those pro-war conservatives who also happen to be followers of Jesus, I would add the word "clueless." XO, --Smurf, now going back into politcal lurk mode - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:02:49 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: re: How to think and discuss like a republican -njc From Deb's post: <> I, too, cannot understand why Clinton is often brought up during political discussions. After the Kerry vs. Bush election, I was in a bar with friends and was introduced to some guy who immediately starting boasting about the election results and insulting the minority who voted for Kerry in our county. I quietly said that I was one of those who voted for Kerry. He started hurling some insults and proceeded to talk about Clinton's zipper problem. I replied with, Well, I didn't know Clinton was on the ballot, but hmm, let's see, blow job with record budget surplus, or fork the American people with record budget deficit (gee, that's a tough one) - - He then asked me if I was a small business owner, to which I replied no, and he then said "case closed" and walked away in a huff (coward!) so I could not get another peep in. (apparently my opinion means nothing because I am not a small business owner, though I do Know plenty of business owners who voted against Bush.) A few minutes later he came back to whisper a Clinton joke in someone's ear, but in front of my face. Hey, I love jokes just like the next guy, but the way in which this guy carried himself was incredibly juvenile. The whole thing just seemed so scripted. I mean the guy walking away from me was reminiscent of the right wing radio talk show hosts hanging up on people who are desperately trying to get their valid points across. And I'm not saying all republicans act like this...I know some who I would trust more to catch me than some of my liberal friends (but then again, none of them are politicians). I guess if I was going to bring up Clinton, I would say, yeah, people from all over the world have been clamouring to get into this great country of ours...even when Clinton was getting bj's in the oval office ... JK! Mia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:21:48 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC maybe whining can be a useful, though annoying, thing. As in "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". So its natural to squeak, so that one gets "grease". Grease can come in many forms! Em - --- Smurf wrote: > Bree wrote: > > << My biggest complaint with SOME democrats/liberals is the > whining..why so > much whining? At times they seem so morose...humorless. >> > > > Maybe it has to do with one's overall point of view, Bree, because > I would be much more likely to use the words "whining," "humorless" > and "morose" about Republicans and conservatives. And for ALL of > those pro-war conservatives who also happen to be followers of Jesus, > I would add the word "clueless." > > XO, > > --Smurf, now going back into politcal lurk mode > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:35:10 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sad news Oh Geez!!! I'm so sorry to hear this Kakki!!! My dear Paz!!!Thank you so much for letting us know. I'm sorry, I took the NJC tag off just this once so everyone can know and keep Paz in their thoughts and prayers. So sorry to hear this! Sherelle Kakki wrote: I just learned that Michael Paz's father Juan has passed away. Michael had recently been to Honduras to see his dad and is leaving this weekend to return for the memorial. I know many of you will want to send him a note. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:57:28 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) Hi dear Gary!!!! My husband introduced me to this song and he absolutely loves it!!!! I really like it too even though I've only heard it a few times. It seems I'm out of the loop too! Smile! I think this artist is very original and very refreshing! Hope all is well in your world!! Love, Sherelle Gary wrote: I've been out of the loop forever regarding new music these days, so forgive me if this has been mentioned before. I saw an episode of Oprah last week and there was a fellow on by the name of James Blunt. He did a song called "You're Beautiful" that really struck me. I guess it's way up there up on the Billboard charts, but as I said, I'm so out of the loop I wouldn't have known. Has anyone heard this song? And any thoughts on this artist? My first impression, at least, is that I was impressed! Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:38:39 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Joni and Mariah From the new Rolling Stone: 3Imagine my disbelief to see Mariah Carey on the cover. I can9t recall an artist who has recorded more dreck than her. Every time one of Mariah9s sixth-grade fans buys one of her records, it9s a slap in the face to true female artists such and Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Tina Turner, and Aretha Franklin.2 Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: 5:12Pm thoughts Just read the Digest (today's I think) and I have some thoughts, etc. to share. I can't wait to see "March of the Penguins"....soon. Thanks for the beautifully written, descriptive and insightful sentences, Bree. I DID see a movie yesterday...and hope you all will give some consideration to having this myriad of feelings experienced t as I watched. "Because Of Winn Dixie". A jewel. Kira, I am really a child of the 60's and found your thoughts so very stimulating. Oh how I agree: we MUST stop competing (ALL generations) and work together toward continued and consistent positive change. My father, who died on March 24, 1981, lived in "The Greatest Generation"...the mighty depression and the unmentionable horrors of World War 11. I never realized, until you wrote, Kira, that, indeed, I live in that generation's shadow. My father was a simple man; a man of so few possessions. Yet, after his death, my mother and I discovered, hidden deep within his closet, a huge oblong box of approximately 40 pairs of brand new, never worn shoes. Certainly this speaks to the immense poverty imprint of the Depression. My dad was a professional baseball player, signed by Connie Mack....I have the letter. He was a pitcher. He was shot in the left leg while serving in the Burmese Theater, and developed Osteomialitis (spelling?)...had his arm amputated...not in half...but he weathered a two inch scar that mirrored the tale of losing the majority of his bone and most of his right shoulder...the bone from the elbow up. He couldn't raise his right arm, his beloved pitching arm, above his waist, yet he maintained a 2 handicapp in his second beloved sport which was golf. His left arm doesn't do justice to the word 'power'. Upon reflection, there were some/many of the baby-boomers who appeared to protest for the sheer "enjoyment" of protesting. I wasn't one of them. I protested...attended every March....with Martin...oh what a memory...I was extremely serious. Yet, I gladly let my bra fly out the car window one afternoon, got caught in the feminist's exploration of their thoughts, and dare I say, complex feelings?! I tossed my birth-control pills off a cliff in Big Sur one August afternoon. Come to think of it, I have so many very, very complex feelings about my generation. Kira, you ignited my immediate exploration, that has been stagnant, I fear....and I thank you. WALMART: off and running into the wall of yet another subject. It's all in the art of manipulation and intimidation and the mighty mask of hope....false hope. I know several WalMart employees. The sun is beginning the setting journey. The bulbs are beginning to peek up through the hardened earth. The sun is changing positions. A hopeful time of year...another chance at our collective exploration into a rebirth. "Well I'm learning It's peaceful With a good dog and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century They're not going to fix it up Too easy" "We once loved-together And we floodlit that time Input-output-electricity" "She's not going to fix it up Too easy" Love vibes to all...to all generations...from Bo - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:10:07 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: South by Southwest Music Festival Hey now, Jonilistas... I fly out to Austin, TX at the crack o' dawn tomorrow to attend the huge SxSW music conference and showcase. I'll be there for a week. If anyone lives in the area and would like to take in a few shows or join me to break bread or have a drink or two, I've got tons of VIP performance and party passes to share! One party I've been invited to at SxSW may be of particular interest: A "Canadian Blast BBQ and Musical Sneak-Peak" hosted by Feldman & Associates...Joni's management. Performers there will be: Controller Controller, Wintersleep, Small Sins, The Illuminati and Uncut. I'm also going to parties put on by the United Kingdom and New Zealand consulates in Texas. I'll be seeing the following performances/interviews for sure: - -Neil Young (keynote speaker; interviewed by film director Jonathan Demme) - -Lyle Lovett - -The Pretenders - -Sonya Kitchell - -Sam Moore - -Judy Collins - -Morrisey - -Beastie Boys - -Kris Kristofferson ...and literally thousands of musical acts from around the world performing 24/7 during the conference Please join me if you're in the area and have time to hang. I'll hook you up! My cell phone # is 415-505-1679. I would love to see some of you! It will be fun to meet Sam, if he shows up... - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: How to "Think" and "Discuss" Like a Republican NJC But Bree, you assume that means we're the best. I would propose is all that it means is that we're not the worst (though we're certainly heading in a downward direction). Certainly nothing to be proud of, really. Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Golden Gates" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni open Mic night Hi Sue & Patti - I know this will be a great gig and I wish I could be there. You know of course that wherever a Joni song is covered, I am there in spirit. I'd love to hear how it went, who sang what, etc. Bob NP: AC/DC, "Shoot To Thrill" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:14:02 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni and Mariah - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" > From the new Rolling Stone: > > 3Imagine my disbelief to see Mariah Carey on the cover. I can9t recall an > artist who has recorded more dreck than her. Every time one of Mariah9s > sixth-grade fans buys one of her records, it9s a slap in the face to true > female artists such and Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Tina Turner, and > Aretha > Franklin.2 Mariah's not really female? Say it ain't so! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:59:48 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: njc Sopranos It was just what I WAS expecting, in this way, Vince: great acting and directing (especially the scene where Tony tells Carmela that he had lunch alone at the sushi place.) And the overarching sadness of seeing a family disintegrate. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:30:24 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: the amazing JMDL, sjc - - --- Jerry wrote: > This list is amazing. As a University Librarian I > get bombarded by all > sorts of information from all sources, but this list > informs me more, and > more intelligently, than any of them. Smurf wrote: I second this thought. I am not a university librarian, but I am constantly reading stuff of all kinds, and this list informs me in ways other sources just do not. From the events surrounding September 11th to the post-Katrina situation to health care in other countries to happenings -- and music! Hi Ya'll, I third the motion of this notion. I see this list as very similar to Joni in that regard. Her songs are educational for me and thought provoking... just like this train, I mean this list. I appreciate all who are open-minded enough to participate. You know who you are. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:47:31 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: March on.... NJC Bree wrote: Marianne and I saw a lovely lovely movie yesterday called.. March Of The Penguins. Hi Bree, Trip. 70 miles wobbling or scooting on one's belly. Pass me the egg please. Robert and I just watched this movie over the weekend too. His pick on Netflix. I share your love for penguins. My cat is penguin colored. I love the French too, but all French men are gay... at least that could be the assumption according to the 60 minutes show I watched last night that tried to tag sexual orientation to cultural mannerisms. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:16:12 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: was Health Insurance, now Mozart, still NJC - attn PATRICK and KAY hey cindy! i have something i have to do until 9 pm that evening but i can definitely meet you after your concert (i wish i could go, it sounds wonderful!) kay, heads up! patrick np - tennis on tv - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Cindy Vickery Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 11:31 PM To: smurfadelica@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: was Health Insurance, now Mozart, still NJC - attn PATRICK and KAY <> and speaking of hanging out with the people of the JMDL.... I'll be in NYC on Saturday 03/25 for this, etc etc. http://www.stonewallchorale.org/schedule.html Join us, anyone?? Patrick? Kay? Kay, are you playing anywhere that weekend? cindy _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #94 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------