From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, March 12 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 092 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Walmart, Costco benefits (njc) [] Re: Walmart, Costco benefits (njc) [] Health insurance NJC [Lucy Hone ] Re: Health insurance NJC ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: River and Joni the man ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Health insurance NJC [Catherine McKay ] Wall to Wall ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Subject: it hurts the head NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Subject: it hurts the head NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Health insurance NJC [Smurf ] Re: Wall to Wall [Bob Muller ] Re: Wall to Wall ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Neil Young: Heart of Gold/NJC [karen ] both sides now, njc maybe or maybe not [LCStanley7@aol.com] NJC, it hurts the head ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: money for nothing NJC [Catherine McKay ] James Blunt (NJC) [Gary Z ] Re: Wall to Wall [Bob Muller ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: James Blunt (NJC) ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: James Blunt (NJC) ["Azeem" ] Kind of Like A Joni Cover [Bob Muller ] RE: Walmart article NJC ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: A day of Ronee NjC ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: eminem NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: money for nothing NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Neil Young: Heart of Gold film ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: A day of Ronee NjC ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: James Blunt (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] njc Sopranos [vince ] Re: Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets [Smu] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:57:12 -0800 From: Subject: Walmart, Costco benefits (njc) Why are some of you saying they do not offer benefits?? Look here: http://www.walmartfacts.com/walmart-benefits.aspx http://careers.homedepot.com/benefits Geez. And I will post this link again for any who may not have medical insurance. Here is a way that is cheaper than a lot of company plans: http://ehealthinsurance.com/ Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:06:22 -0800 From: Subject: Re: Walmart, Costco benefits (njc) Oops, guess that "Republican" tendency to not be able to think made me goof here - LOL I meant Home Depot not Costco, but it's all the same and that last glass of Port tonight made me fuzzy. ("No, it didn't - you are a brainless conservative!!" ) ;=) > Why are some of you saying they do not offer benefits?? Look here: > > http://www.walmartfacts.com/walmart-benefits.aspx > > http://careers.homedepot.com/benefits ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:25:15 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Health insurance NJC Hey everyone, how are you.... been extrememly pressed recently with all sorts of things... Coming in very late on this topic and really not had time to read all that everyone has said about it. I can give you the UK perspective and a very close to home story about how our National Health System works and does not!! We pay what is called National Insurance and so do our employers. This system pays for our general practitioners (doctors) our hospitals, our operations, mental welfare, geriatric services, you name it it can be got for paying your NI... YOu can also get everything if you have never worked.. What we do pay for are meds that are given to your on a prescriptionfrom your doctor, but we pay a charge of #6.50 per item or about $13.. If you are on a low income, are under 16, or with certain conditions, you qualify for free drugs too. What are not covered are "alternative treatments", counselling that is not related to a diagnosed psychiatric condition, and some other anomalies. There is however a lot of controversy about the availability of some drugs in areas of the country that are not so wealthy... (see more below) IN recent years there was concern about waiting lists for operations (hips mostly) but there has been such a hoo haa in the country that surgeons have been called to increase their lists, work a bit harder for their very considerable salaries and get a crack on. WE are also able now to go to any hospital where the list is shorter and since they are keen to offer quick services you may not wait longer than 6 months.. We only ever hear of the shock stories of people who have had their operations cancelled, never of the millions of ops that go on year in year out, on schedule, successfully and with no fuss being made... My ex husband is desperately ill. He has a form of Leukaemia that is out of control and he is undergoing some pretty tough times at the moment both with facing this demon and becoming calm about his options (which are severely limited). Here in the south of England we are very very well served by both haematologists and an oncology programme that includes some of the most advanced and forward looking treatment programmes. there is however some evidence of this not being the case in more rural areas and in the North. IN areas that have been very economically deprived the standard of hospital care for people with pressing and complicated cases has been known to fall dramatically short of what happens elsewhere. Now that people can opt to go elsewhere things are improving. There are also, we have to admit globally, people who think they are being denied treatments (that are actually inappropriate to their condition) and other people who take an over wheening interest in their health and seek specialist attention for helath conditions that they do not have...thank heavens for psychiatric services..... ANYWAY.... Nick has had access to his own room on the haematology ward and some brilliant nursing staff. He can self admit if he feels really in need to do so and (whilst the food is awful) he had been given an incredible service for a condition that is baffling his specialists. His services have cost him nothing... but each of the chemo infusions he has been through have cost in the region of #2,000. Those costs take into account the nursing care, the drugs, etc. so far he has in chemo alone "cost" #14,000... SO paying a stamp for all those years does pay. You can opt for private health insurance and for that you may get some flowers in your room, slightly better food and a bigger television but you are likely to see your NHS specialist........ I know someone who threw their toys out of the pram with their specialist and went private only to see him on the other side of the desk!!! SO... I have been saddened by my contact with many people in the US (through a specific leukaemia discussion group) about what is and is not covered by their health plans. Some suddenly find their premiums go sky high or add exclusions when it is realised by the company that "this one is going to cost". They also seem to have to travel hundreds of miles to see a specialist and travel is not included. Some speicalists are NOT up to date with the condition and its treatment options so I am not convinced that the private route is the best....You dont get what you pay for, you get what is "in the shop at the time" I would like to stay with our system. That way I know that if I get knocked down or need an ambulance they are not going to ask me for my health insurance before they take me away to treat me. I dont want to have to face the worrry of "will my company pay for this?" I could not bare the uncertainty of "what happens to my health care if I lose my job?" I like our system, and for the main part it works........ That is my few pennies worth on this subject. I am now heading into lurkdom again... Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Health insurance NJC This list is amazing. As a University Librarian I get bombarded by all sorts of information from all sources, but this list informs me more, and more intelligently, than any of them. Great post, my Queen! Jerry Lucy Hone wrote: > Hey everyone, how are you.... been extrememly pressed recently with all > sorts of things... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:29:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: River and Joni the man That is exactly what I wrote. She wants to be considered a singer songwriter, not a female singer songwriter. Jerry Mark Scott wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > > >> And Joni herself would have taken this as a compliment. She has often >> said >> this in interviews, that she always felt more comfortable with men, in >> general, than with women. And she bristles as being called a female >> singer >> songwriter. >> >> Jerry >> > > I don't think she bristles at being called female so much as she bristles > at > the distinction that is being drawn. I think she feels the implication is > 'you're pretty good...for a girl.' She would prefer to be called one of > the > greatest singer/songwriters without any qualification at all. She said > that > she thought Dylan's remark was a backhanded compliment. > > She likes men, she likes the company of men. But I don't think she wants > to > be one. > > Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Health insurance NJC I'm going to tag on to Lulu's post because I'm busy with getting my house ready to sell and the RSI in my right wrist is acting up, so can't type much. I hope this answers Bree's questions too. - --- Lucy Hone wrote: > We pay what is called National Insurance and so do > our employers. This > system pays for our general practitioners (doctors) > our hospitals, our > operations, mental welfare, geriatric services, you > name it it can be > got for paying your NI... YOu can also get > everything if you have never > worked.. This is very much how Ontario's health insurance works. Note that it isn't identical in all Canadian provinces, although there are many similarities. Part of our cost is borne by employers and part by individuals through taxes. This money covers all Ontario residents, so you don't have to work to be covered - thus retired people, seniors, children, unemployed people & so on are covered. What we do pay for are meds that are given > to your on a > prescriptionfrom your doctor, but we pay a charge of > #6.50 per item or > about $13.. If you are on a low income, are under > 16, or with certain > conditions, you qualify for free drugs too. What > are not covered are > "alternative treatments", counselling that is not > related to a diagnosed > psychiatric condition, and some other anomalies. > There is however a lot > of controversy about the availability of some drugs > in areas of the > country that are not so wealthy... (see more below) Once again, similar here, except that drug coverage is only for seniors, people on welfare, people who work but whose income is low. Many of the rest of us have drug plans through work extended health care. Others foot the entire bill on their own. There is a co-payment. Low-income people have to pay a small portion of the cost of drugs. Extended health plans like mine cover 90%; with others, you pay a set co-payment (not a lot) regardless of the cost of the drug. > > IN recent years there was concern about waiting > lists for operations > (hips mostly) but there has been such a hoo haa in > the country that > surgeons have been called to increase their lists, > work a bit harder for > their very considerable salaries and get a crack on. > WE are also able > now to go to any hospital where the list is shorter > and since they are > keen to offer quick services you may not wait longer > than 6 months.. We > only ever hear of the shock stories of people who > have had their > operations cancelled, never of the millions of ops > that go on year in > year out, on schedule, successfully and with no fuss > being made... Once again, very similar story here. Governments, both federal and provincial, are working on this and improvements have already been made. Most important is a website posting wait times throughout the province. As with the UK, it's the joint replacement people that tend to wait longer, and some cardiac surgery and a few others. However, if it's an emergency, you are treated immediately. > My ex husband is desperately ill. He has a form of > Leukaemia that is out > of control and he is undergoing some pretty tough > times at the moment > both with facing this demon and becoming calm about > his options (which > are severely limited). Here in the south of England > we are very very > well served by both haematologists and an oncology > programme that > includes some of the most advanced and forward > looking treatment > programmes. there is however some evidence of this > not being the case in > more rural areas and in the North. IN areas that > have been very > economically deprived the standard of hospital care > for people with > pressing and complicated cases has been known to > fall dramatically short > of what happens elsewhere. Now that people can opt > to go elsewhere > things are improving. Likewise here. There are areas of the province that are underserviced for both family docs and specialists. This makes it difficult to find a doc at all if you're new in town or your doc has left or retired. There are also, we have to > admit globally, people > who think they are being denied treatments (that are > actually > inappropriate to their condition) and other people > who take an over > wheening interest in their health and seek > specialist attention for > helath conditions that they do not have...thank > heavens for psychiatric > services..... ANYWAY.... Yes, we have those too and when they go to the media, it makes it difficult to explain, since gov't people aren't supposed to comment on specific individual cases and have to talk around it. > Nick has had access to his own room on the > haematology ward and some > brilliant nursing staff. He can self admit if he > feels really in need to > do so and (whilst the food is awful) he had been > given an incredible > service for a condition that is baffling his > specialists. His services > have cost him nothing... but each of the chemo > infusions he has been > through have cost in the region of #2,000. Those > costs take into account > the nursing care, the drugs, etc. so far he has in > chemo alone "cost" > #14,000... SO paying a stamp for all those years > does pay. Here, your chemo is completely covered. > You can opt for private health insurance and for > that you may get some > flowers in your room, slightly better food and a > bigger television but > you are likely to see your NHS specialist........ I > know someone who > threw their toys out of the pram with their > specialist and went private > only to see him on the other side of the desk!!! > SO... Yep. Same story here. It's a bit different in that, if a service is covered under the schedule of benefits, docs are not allowed to charge - therefore can't offer the same service privately. But they deal with it in other ways. Dermatologists are now heavily into plastic surgery and botox treatments for those willing and able to pay - these things aren't covered. My ophthalmologist makes big bucks doing laser eye treatments for nearsightedness, likewise not covered. > I would like to stay with our system. That way I > know that if I get > knocked down or need an ambulance they are not going > to ask me for my > health insurance before they take me away to treat > me. I dont want to > have to face the worrry of "will my company pay for > this?" I could not > bare the uncertainty of "what happens to my health > care if I lose my job?" > > I like our system, and for the main part it > works........ > Ditto from here. It has its problems, but I prefer a system that at least tries to treat everyone equitably regardless of income. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:17:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Wall to Wall FOR THE RECORD: "Wall to Wall Stephen Sondheim" On March 19, 2005, Symphony Space presented a 12-hour salute to the legendary, award-winning theatre composer Stephen Sondheim in honor of his 75th birthday. Excerpts from that star-studded event have just been released on a new CD, "Wall to Wall Stephen Sondheim," available exclusively at www.symphonyspace.org. Hmmmmm. No Joni Wall to Wall????? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:53:56 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Subject: it hurts the head NJC >>What do you charge, and where shall I mail the check? << don't mail the cheque, just check the mail ;-) mike in bcn np - god must be a boogie man ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:53:56 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Subject: it hurts the head NJC >>What do you charge, and where shall I mail the check? << don't mail the cheque, just check the mail ;-) mike in bcn np - god must be a boogie man ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:23:14 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Health insurance NJC - --- Jerry wrote: > This list is amazing. As a University Librarian I > get bombarded by all > sorts of information from all sources, but this list > informs me more, and > more intelligently, than any of them. I second this thought. I am not a university librarian, but I am constantly reading stuff of all kinds, and this list informs me in ways other sources just do not. From the events surrounding September 11th to the post-Katrina situation to health care in other countries to happenings -- and music! -- of all kinds thoughout the world, the JMDL can't be beat. I long ago learned everything I'll ever need to know about the Joanster, now I'm here for many, many other reasons. (For example, going to see the new Neil Young/Jonathan Demme movie today with Jody and That Guy Johnson, plus Victor "Juke" Johnson!) And it's ALWAYS wonderful to see a post from the Queen of England! Have a great day, - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Wall to Wall Subject: Re: Wall to Wall So I guess Joni's fans need to be more rabid! Doesn't seem possible. Bob Muller wrote: > > Major difference between the two...for the > Sondheim show, people started camping out the > night before to get in, and after it started > entrance was nearly impossible - it was > impossible if you weren't a subscriber to > Symphony Space. > > By comparison, getting in to the Joni W2W was no > big deal. I bought a membership to ensure my > getting in, but didn't need it as I was able to > walk in moments before it began. > > So, different levels of demand merit different > levels of post-event marketing. > > I'd be happy enough if they would just do another > broadcast or webcast, then I could snag it all to > go along with the partial I have. > > Bob > > NP: Rickie Lee, "My Funny Valentine" One of my favorite songs! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:24:58 -0500 From: karen Subject: Neil Young: Heart of Gold/NJC Hi Everyone, Hope I got that NJC right, I meant to indicate that this post has No Joni Content! Someone asked about Neil Young: Heart of Gold, and yes, I have seen it, twice now. I saw it last night at a theatre in Connecticut where the Editor of the film (Andy Keir) held a Q & A session afterwards, which was really fun, and interesting. It is a wonderful "concert film," documenting two incredible shows Neil did in Nashville this past summer, where he played his new album "Prairie Wind" in its entirety and then a lot of the old classics, like "Old Man" and "Needle and the Damage Done," etc. A very moving film, if you are a Neil Young fan, directed by Jonathan Demme, who did a great job making you feel like you are right on stage with Neil. The movie is particularly interesting to me, I trekked down to Nashville last August to see the concerts, and felt lucky indeed to get in. The concerts (there were two nights) were "invitation only," only open to film people and the press. I used to do a lot of freelance writing, but stopped when my kids were born, and desperate to see the shows decided it was time to start writing again. I wrote a looong essay about my adventure, which was published a bunch of places, locally and on-line, mostly, though, it's not like it was The New Yorker, but whatever. Here's a link to my article if you're interested. Be warned, it is long and very detailed, so if you are not a serious Neil fan you might be bored! : ) http://www.bigomagazine.com/features05/KBSneilyoung.html But anyway, do go see the film if it is playing nearby, I think you guys would like it. A DVD is coming out in a bit, which will include a lot that wasn't in the film, including one song called "He Was the King," about Elvis Presley, and a lot of talking done by Neil at the shows, long, funny stories that I loved, but were cut from the film because he does tend to ramble. : ) Also, I would like to send my condolences to Michael/"Paz" about his father... I don't know you personally Michael, but I appreciate so much that you were one of the first people to welcome me to this list when I joined recently, making me feel at home. Love and prayers coming to you and your family from here; I lost my dad some time ago now, and the good news is that the love lives on forever. loveandaffection,karen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:39:27 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: both sides now, njc maybe or maybe not Interesting site: _http://www.bsnpubs.com/index.html_ (http://www.bsnpubs.com/index.html) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:07:20 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: NJC, it hurts the head > >>What do you charge, and where shall I mail the check? > >don't mail the cheque, just check the mail ;-) > >mike in bcn Dear Mike: I took your advice and checked the mail, and saw the following in the latest FCNL (Friends Committee on National Legislation) newsletter (if you don't want to read the article, please at least look at the pie chart). It's pretty timely, too, since it's comin' on tax season, as well as the 3rd anniversary of the start of the war. - -------- Did you know that 42% of your income taxes in 2005 pay for the military? Read this article to find out more. http://www.fcnl.org/now/now_item.php?item_id=424&issue_id=5 - -------- Talk about hurting the head, and the heart and soul, too. Thank God I am getting a refund this year -- I don't think my heart and mind would allow my hand to write a checque to aid this military madness. Love and peace, Patti P., who's got the urge for going to Oh Canada, or somewhere, to set my soul free NPIMH: Military Madness In an upstairs room in Blackpool By the side of a northern sea The army had my father And my mother was having me Military Madness was killing my country Solitary Sadness comes over me After the school was over and I moved To the other side I found a different country but I never Lost my pride Military Madness was killing the country Solitary sadness creeps over me And after the wars are over And the body count is finally filed I hope that The Man discovers What's driving the people wild Military madness is killing your country So much sadness, between you and me - -- Graham Nash P.S. When I saw CSN this summer, Graham prefaced this song with words to this effect: "We *wish* we didn't have to keep singing this song, but we do...." Plus ca change..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:06:35 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: money for nothing NJC - --- djp wrote: > At 08:53 AM 3/11/2006, Bree Mcdonough wrote: > >. WHY ..oh WHY..is everyone trying to get into this > fabulous country of > >ours? I'm thinking it is because of the > opportunity they see because we > >are capitalistic and all that comes with > that.....ownership....the good > >life.... > > Everybody? I'm always, again, running behind the > times, it seems. > > I'm moving to Toronto this summer. > > Hi Catherine! > > djp Cool! Come on down. Uh. Up. The more, the merrier! We're capitalists too, but also socialists. Both sides, now. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:24:46 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: James Blunt (NJC) I've been out of the loop forever regarding new music these days, so forgive me if this has been mentioned before. I saw an episode of Oprah last week and there was a fellow on by the name of James Blunt. He did a song called "You're Beautiful" that really struck me. I guess it's way up there up on the Billboard charts, but as I said, I'm so out of the loop I wouldn't have known. Has anyone heard this song? And any thoughts on this artist? My first impression, at least, is that I was impressed! Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Wall to Wall We are a rabid lot, but this was Sondheim in New York, after all - probably a much greater density of Broadway fans there than Joni fans, wouldn't you say? Maybe if it was in LA it would be the reverse, I dunno. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "Achilles Last Stand" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:48:18 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) This guy is good, Gary. Thanks for the tip. Hadn't heard of him heretofore. Unique vocal instrument. I'm liking the song writing and arrangements, too. Now harmonies... Sweet. Here's a link to some of his videos. Enjoy. I am. I suggest checking out "Wise": http://search.aol.com/aolcom/video?invocationType=aolcomvideo& query=james%20blunt - -Julius In a message dated 3/12/06 11:39:37 AM, nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net writes: > I've been out of the loop forever regarding new music these days, so > forgive me if this has been mentioned before. I saw an episode of Oprah > last week and there was a fellow on by the name of James Blunt. He did > a song called "You're Beautiful" that really struck me. I guess it's > way up there up on the Billboard charts, but as I said, I'm so out of > the loop I wouldn't have known. > > Has anyone heard this song? And any thoughts on this artist? My first > impression, at least, is that I was impressed! > > Best regards, > > Gary Z. > Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:52:06 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) The song I wanted to recommend is actually called "High." Ssssorry... :-) - -Julius http://search.aol.com/aolcom/video?invocationType=aolcomvideo& query=james%20blunt > >I suggest checking out "Wise": ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:04:07 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) Gary, a word of advice. RUN!!!!! James Blunt is the worst singer-songwriter out there and the fact that he's top of the charts in the US and has topped the UK charts is just proof of that... He's Rufus Wainwright without the talent, David Gray without the integrity, Bob Dylan without the.... well, Dylan! Listen to the song... take apart the structure.. it's just lazy. He wrote it by a pool in LA... so far away from the life of the ex-military person that h'e touted to be... It's bubblegum singersongwriting. Just because he plays the guitar and 'composes' his music he is being touted as the herald of what every British singer songwriter should aspire to. And his voice is cr@p. His management kept him off being interviewed on radio and tv for ages until it had reached no 1 due to the fact that he sounds so upper middleclass that people could see straight through all the 'tenderness' and 'vulnerability' that he has manufactured, and represents all I hate about modern music. Otherwise, he wears nice tee-shirts. But that's just my opinion. Jamie Z On 12/03/06, Gary Z wrote: > I've been out of the loop forever regarding new music these days, so > forgive me if this has been mentioned before. I saw an episode of Oprah > last week and there was a fellow on by the name of James Blunt. He did > a song called "You're Beautiful" that really struck me. I guess it's > way up there up on the Billboard charts, but as I said, I'm so out of > the loop I wouldn't have known. > > Has anyone heard this song? And any thoughts on this artist? My first > impression, at least, is that I was impressed! > > Best regards, > > Gary Z. > Detroit > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:56:22 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) Don's sugarcoat it, Jamie... Give it to us straight! I'm Googling "downtrodden poverty-stricken angst-ridden guitar-picking sharecropper's son music downloads." I'll buy that for a dollar on itunes instead, and will sleep well tonight. :-) - -Julius In a message dated 3/12/06 12:32:45 PM, jamiezubairi@gmail.com writes: > James Blunt is the worst singer-songwriter out there and the fact thathe's > top of the charts in the US and has topped the UK charts is just > proof of that... just because he plays the guitar and > 'composes' his music he is being touted as the herald of what every > British singer songwriter should aspire to. And his voice is cr@p. His > management kept him off being interviewed on radio and tv for ages > until it had reached no 1 due to the fact that he sounds so upper > middleclass that people could see straight through all the > 'tenderness' and 'vulnerability' that he has manufactured, and > represents all I hate about modern music. > > It's bubblegum singersongwriting. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:02:18 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: James Blunt (NJC) Jamie wrote: << James Blunt is the worst singer-songwriter out there and the fact that he's top of the charts in the US and has topped the UK charts is just proof of that... He's Rufus Wainwright without the talent, David Gray without the integrity, Bob Dylan without the.... well, Dylan! Listen to the song... take apart the structure.. it's just lazy. [...] It's bubblegum singersongwriting. Just because he plays the guitar and 'composes' his music he is being touted as the herald of what every British singer songwriter should aspire to. And his voice is cr@p. His management kept him off being interviewed on radio and tv for ages until it had reached no 1 due to the fact that he sounds so upper middleclass that people could see straight through all the 'tenderness' and 'vulnerability' that he has manufactured, and represents all I hate about modern music. >> No fence-sitting for you Jamie! I have to say that, while I'm not a fan of Mr Blunt, and may commit an act of shocking violence if I hear "You're Beautiful" one more time - I think you are a tad harsh! And why would being upper middle class preclude him from being tender or vulnerable?? By that argument you would have to wonder whether Nick Drake was faking his vulnerability and tenderness, wouldn't you? Not that JB is in the same universe talent-wise as ND, I hasten to add. From interviews I've read with him, he seems a pretty sound bloke, and the facts of his life ARE that he is from well-to-do stock and he WAS in the army - that's where he came from, and I haven't detected any attempt to deny that. As for the worst singer-songwriter out there, well, as one who can't stand Rufus W and has very little time for David G, I can't go along with your argument. I think we can agree that Bob Dylan isn't going to lose any sleep, though. Any road up, James will be crying all the way to the bank... Azeem in London NP: Rosanne Cash - The Wheel (great album) - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 10/03/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:31:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Kind of Like A Joni Cover > I had no idea Kind of Like Spitting covered the > Last Time I Saw Richard! > That's really cool. Life is for learning, Kira - sorry it took me so long to get this out here. I had to go dig up Volume 17 to get it. It's very casual & sparse, the last minute features some really nice textured cascading guitar. http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TQKTGEDKI2TO1MI7Z2T4L1STD Bob NP: David Baerwald, "The Got No Shotgun Hydra Head Octopus Blues" (great track from a great neglected record) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:44:05 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: RE: Walmart article NJC for some reason. . this : >Np: paul simon, diamonds on the souls of her shoes. made me laugh. . after reading your serious discussion of capitalism. . which I throughly enjoyed Alison. Best, Marianne - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Alison J Einerson" To: "Bree Mcdonough" ,,,,, Subject: RE: Walmart article NJC Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:41:45 -0700 I'm not arguing against capitalism per se---I'm arguing for RESPONSIBLE capitalism. I think there are good things about capitalism. It's when companies put PROFITS over PEOPLE that we have trouble. They put PROFITS over community. They put PROFITS over quality. They put PROFITS over morality. IT's the idea that a corporation can have a group of people so duped that they sing the company song every morning, and have to go on public assistance to help them feed their families that night because their wages are below the poverty line. There is something inherently wrong with that. As to the health insurance thing, that's a whole other issue. I believe that all people should have equal access to good health care. In order to have that today, you have to have good insurance. The only place to get insurance that is affordable is at work. That's where the system has gone. It's been eating by an overweaning monster of a health care system driven by....PROFITS...instead of PEOPLE. Hmmm, a theme... Alison e. in slc Np: paul simon, diamonds on the souls of her shoes. - -----Original Message----- From: Bree Mcdonough [mailto:bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:30 AM To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca; Alison J Einerson; joni@smoe.org; scjoniguy@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; treegreen1@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Walmart article NJC Again...good points made by you both...but I still will take capitalism..free market...ownership..etc,. Bree PS. This is something to think about.... why do think we are entitled to health insurance from an employee? Why don't they provide car..house insurance too while they are at it? I didn't know that companies didn't start offering health insurance until after WW11. WE complanin about the gimme..gimme soceity...I..I..me ..me. but yet... here is a prime example.... the give it to me mentality....I'm entitled..it's only fair. ... Just wondering about this when I heard it discussed recently on the radio. not typical of business though, that only the >top dogs reap the profits? Who gets the big bonuses >(boni?) in industry? The CEOs that make share prices go up - often by >laying off vast numbers of employees. >Ironic that we are all shareholders of banks if we use their services >at all (and we have to because no one pays you in cash anymore), and >yet, unless you have a minimum amount of money in the bank - an amount >few but the very rich are likely to ever have -, not only do you reap >no profits, but you get to pay for the benefit of having YOUR money in >THEIR bank - your money, which they invest to make even more money for >the shareholders that count, but not for you, my friend, because you're >not big enough. > >Catherine >Toronto - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Alison J Einerson" To: "Bree Mcdonough" ,,,,, Subject: RE: Walmart article NJC Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:41:45 -0700 I'm not arguing against capitalism per se---I'm arguing for RESPONSIBLE capitalism. I think there are good things about capitalism. It's when companies put PROFITS over PEOPLE that we have trouble. They put PROFITS over community. They put PROFITS over quality. They put PROFITS over morality. IT's the idea that a corporation can have a group of people so duped that they sing the company song every morning, and have to go on public assistance to help them feed their families that night because their wages are below the poverty line. There is something inherently wrong with that. As to the health insurance thing, that's a whole other issue. I believe that all people should have equal access to good health care. In order to have that today, you have to have good insurance. The only place to get insurance that is affordable is at work. That's where the system has gone. It's been eating by an overweaning monster of a health care system driven by....PROFITS...instead of PEOPLE. Hmmm, a theme... Alison e. in slc Np: paul simon, diamonds on the souls of her shoes. - -----Original Message----- From: Bree Mcdonough [mailto:bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:30 AM To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca; Alison J Einerson; joni@smoe.org; scjoniguy@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; treegreen1@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Walmart article NJC Again...good points made by you both...but I still will take capitalism..free market...ownership..etc,. Bree PS. This is something to think about.... why do think we are entitled to health insurance from an employee? Why don't they provide car..house insurance too while they are at it? I didn't know that companies didn't start offering health insurance until after WW11. WE complanin about the gimme..gimme soceity...I..I..me ..me. but yet... here is a prime example.... the give it to me mentality....I'm entitled..it's only fair. ... Just wondering about this when I heard it discussed recently on the radio. not typical of business though, that only the >top dogs reap the profits? Who gets the big bonuses >(boni?) in industry? The CEOs that make share prices go up - often by >laying off vast numbers of employees. >Ironic that we are all shareholders of banks if we use their services >at all (and we have to because no one pays you in cash anymore), and >yet, unless you have a minimum amount of money in the bank - an amount >few but the very rich are likely to ever have -, not only do you reap >no profits, but you get to pay for the benefit of having YOUR money in >THEIR bank - your money, which they invest to make even more money for >the shareholders that count, but not for you, my friend, because you're >not big enough. > >Catherine >Toronto _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:36:28 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) On 12/03/06, Azeem wrote: And why > would being upper middle class preclude him from being tender or > vulnerable?? he he... erm.. it was my point that he couldn't sound honest if he tried. I rather didn't believe that he was just 'sitting on a subway' while writing that song... the well known fact that the was sitting around an LA hotel pool writing it precludes him from being vulnerable and tender, and his wealth gives him the opportunity to lounge around LA rather than *actually* do any work like proper people. Yes, he may have served in Bosnia, but it was for 6 months but when you're officer class, what sort of action do you see? > By that argument you would have to wonder whether Nick > Drake was faking his vulnerability and tenderness, wouldn't you? No, I've never had to wonder about ND's vulnerability and tenderness, I've always seen him as an individual and an artist, not a corporate shill... Not > that JB is in the same universe talent-wise as ND, I hasten to add. > From interviews I've read with him, he seems a pretty sound bloke, and > the facts of his life ARE that he is from well-to-do stock and he WAS in > the army - that's where he came from, and I haven't detected any attempt > to deny that. I guess I've never bothered to read anything about JB to know whether he's denied it or not > As for the worst singer-songwriter out there, well, as one who can't > stand Rufus W and has very little time for David G, I can't go along > with your argument. I think we can agree that Bob Dylan isn't going to > lose any sleep, though. I was just comparing him to the other people out there at the moment: one who is popular, one who is not to everybodies taste and one who has been around a while... > > Any road up, James will be crying all the way to the bank... Sadly for him, the idiot signed away half the rights to his first album to his then girlfriend. A romantic touch (obviously didn't need the money) but one he will regret as they have since split up and she's given up her job as a casting directors assistant... I reckon she's laughing her way to the bank... - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:15:50 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: A day of Ronee NjC That's interesting - maybe that explains why she never made it to the bigtime. Surely it wasn't for lack of acting skills. I notice on IMDB that she hasn't done much film or tv since 1990. Michael Ps: curious to know, Jerry, if Nashville is among your top 5, what are the other four : ) ? Michael in Quebec Jerry said: Hate to burst anyone's bubble but I worked with Ronee about 25 years ago in a stage play (Rain) and she was a horror. Though I do think she was great in Nashville, always on my top 5 film list. Jerry Smurf wrote: >--- Michael wrote: > >>For me, the character she played in >>Altman's Nashville, >>Bobbie-Jean, was one of the great moments in >>American cinema of the 70's. It >>remains with me to this day, some 25 years? later. > >More like 30 years ago, but who's counting. > >--Smurf, who spent some quality time today with the >Johnsons > _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:37:45 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: eminem NJC I'm a perpetual motion search engine this rainy Sunday, as I await the new Sopranos season opener. So. Hi Kira! Here's guitar chords for 5 Farina favorites. Mimi's Bread and Roses Foundation might be a source for much more on them. The headquarters is just down the street when where I live here in NoCal. Hope this is of some use to you. Ciao bella. http://ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/mimi_and_richard_farina_guitar_tabs.htm - -Julius In a message dated 3/1/06 1:25:31 PM, Snapple1984@aol.com writes: > A QUESTION - I absolutely LOVE the Farinas and I want to learn how to play > some of their songs. Does anybody know anything about this/ have played > some > of their songs, especially on dulcimer? I'm especially interested in > learning to play Morgan the Pirate, Sell-Out Agitation Waltz, Lemonade Lady > and Bold > Marauder. Some of the songs you can do on guitar easily, like Pack of You > Sorrows and Swallong song, but it doesn't sound as full. Any thoughts? > Where > would you look to buy a good second-hand dulcimer? > > NP: Joan Baez, Swallong Song ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:58:15 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: money for nothing NJC At 08:53 AM 3/11/2006, Bree Mcdonough wrote: >. WHY ..oh WHY..is everyone trying to get into this fabulous country of >ours? I'm thinking it is because of the opportunity they see because we >are capitalistic and all that comes with that.....ownership....the good >life.... >Everybody? I'm always, again, running behind the times, it seems. I'm moving to Toronto this summer.< My friends recently moved to Vancouver BC & someone else's friends sold their house here & moved to Europe. So that's around 5 at least. ;~} ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:59:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Neil Young: Heart of Gold film >Reading the news and I guess it's not ALL bad. This film looks wonderful, no? Has anyone seen it yet?< I have not seen it yet but was happily surprised to see he was a guest of jon stewart's last week. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: A day of Ronee NjC Michael O'Malley wrote: > That's interesting - maybe that explains why she never made it to the > bigtime. Surely it wasn't for lack of acting skills. I notice on IMDB that > she hasn't done much film or tv since 1990. > > Michael > > Ps: curious to know, Jerry, if Nashville is among your top 5, what are the > other four : ) ? Sunset Boulevard 2001: A Space Odyssey Blue Velvet The Deerhunter Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: James Blunt (NJC) > > Any road up, James will be crying all the way to > the bank... > > Sadly for him, the idiot signed away half the rights > to his first > album to his then girlfriend. A romantic touch > (obviously didn't need > the money) but one he will regret as they have since > split up and > she's given up her job as a casting directors > assistant... I reckon > she's laughing her way to the bank... > Sounds like a win/win situation to me. Everybody happy. Heh-heh-heh. Somehow I've managed to get through life thus far without having heard this guy or this song. Must be listening to the wrong radio stations. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:49 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc Sopranos Anyone watch it tonight? wow that was not what I was expecting Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Heart of Gold film -- njc plus Johnsons, Siberry and The Streets I spent today surrounded by Johnsons! Ah! A fantasy come true! Jody, That Guy & Victor Johnson and I all went to see the Neil Young film and it was excellent. What an honor to sit next to Victor during this movie, since he is THE MAN when it comes to channeling Neil. The movie is all about the performances that happened on two nights in Nashville, so it feels very much like being at a concert. (We had to suppress the urge for clapping after various songs.) I had not heard any of Neil's new "Prairie Wind" CD, but I'll be buying it after seeing this. Anyone who likes Neil will love this film. Anyone who doesn't will be fecked bigtime. It was great to have Victor in the Northeast for a few days. He's en route to Georgia now. I was going to post some pics I took with my new camera, but I screwed up half of them. I accidentally took movies of Jody, That Guy & Victor when I thought I was taking group stills. I did take some photos of Victor and of Victor and me at the airport, but that may have to wait a day. (I am ready for zzzz.) One other thing: One of the most beautiful moments in the film was when just about all the musicians in it lined up on stage with guitars and sang Ian Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." (It's also the only song in the movie Neil didn't write.) I know there has been some conversation here today about people leaving the US. Well, I was planning -- when I became eledgible for vacation time, which happened last week -- to visit a friend who left the US after 9/11 and moved to a house in Vancouver which is allegedly where Ian wrote "FSW," but that plan fell through last week for now because she's travelling. It is, indeed, a small world, eh? One more thing . . . I listened to Jane Siberry's "When I Was a Boy" about 40 times this weekend and I have to ask what the hell is in Canadian water that makes great singer/songwriters sprout up left and right up there? You can also go to the Jane's site if you don't know her work and download music for nothing, or pay for it, or whatever. (You'll see the choices, when you get to her site. She's doing interesting stuff with her marketing of herself.) Just go here << http://www.sheeba.ca/index2.html >> and click on STORE on the lower left hand side, under the changing photos/album covers. Then, when the next page comes up, scroll down to "Calling All Angels" and choose that as either a "Free gift from Jane" if you want, or pay whatever. And one more more thing . . . I also spent a lot of time listening to "A Grand Don't Come Easy" by The Streets and I have to say, I am totally charmed by this Mike Skinner guy, even if he doesn't sound Canadian. Please don't tell me he's really some posh English type when he's not sounding working-class! "Dry Your Eyes" is sweet. - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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