From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #54 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, February 11 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 054 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni's mom and cat [] Podcast Interview (njc) [] Mini Tribute in Austin (njc) [] Re: Joni and Carnegie [Nuriel Tobias ] NJC - The Boss & Transamerica [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni's mom and cat [Deb Messling ] Re: NJC - The Boss & Transamerica ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Passive smoking cat ["Paul Headon" ] The Long and Winding Road... [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Passive smoking cat now njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: The Long and Winding Road... ["ron" ] Digest content, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: The Long and Winding Road... [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni and Carnegie ["Kate Bennett" ] Brokeback shopping list (NJC) ["clive sax" ] Re: The Long and Winding Road... [Catherine McKay ] Re: The Long and Winding Road... [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: The Long and Winding Road...redux [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Obligatory Award Show Rant njc [Randy Remote ] Re: winningest NJC ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: winningest NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: The Long and Winding Road...NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: winningest NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] Joni and Julius go to med school [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni and Julius go to med school [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Podcasts and Petula (njc) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:39:33 -0800 From: Subject: Joni's mom and cat Clive wrote: >Of Dylan she said he was absolutely not interested. Joni however was and >the > studio time had been booked, unfortunately joni's mum had a heart > attack Mark asked: >Anyone else hear about Myrtle having a heart attack?? I had heard in a roundabout way about her mom being very sick and Joni spending a long time back home taking care of and arranging care for both parents. I didn't know she had a heart attack. This is why I surmised that Joni may not be going to the tribute because of her elderly parents but I didn't want to say anything until Clive brought it up. I also am convinced that Joni was not making up an excuse about her cat being ill. I wonder if it is her beloved Nietsche (Man from Mars) - I believe he is the eldest of her cats. He has been through so much with her and I'm sure it is tough for her at this time. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:55:06 -0800 From: Subject: Podcast Interview (njc) Sherelle, Your interview was so fantastic! I swear I felt like I was listening to the best of Joni at times - you have her ability to speak about many subjects and manage to inspire at the same time. I was personally very uplifted on many levels by listening to it. I am so happy for your continuing success in following your dreams. And I love that your musical influences include the Kinks, Petula Clark and jazz. Yes! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:12:29 -0800 From: Subject: Mini Tribute in Austin (njc) Have a great time! I wish I could have skipped away for a few days to join you all! Thanks to everyone for the NYC reports and photos - it sounded pretty magical overall. Does anyone know if there will be any recordings circulating from the tribute and/or the JMDL tribute? Paz - glad you are still going after a number of weeks of much music and partying! Thanks once again for your NAMM hospitality and I'm happy that Katrina's Piano Fund has been benefiting from your efforts! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni and Carnegie How humiliating... Nuriel Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - I spoke with the the director of the Music for Youth Foundation this morning and asked him for the real story on Joni and the tribute event. He told me that Joni had committed from day one to be in attendance. Throughout the planning process she was very supportive of the event - donating her painting for the promotional material and even approving the artists that were to appear (including nixing one unnamed artist). Four days before the event, they received the exact letter that was read to the audience regarding her sick cat. No other explanation was given. Discuss. :-) Les NP: Mark Lanegan "Carry Home" - --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:23:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC - The Boss & Transamerica Subject: Re: Joni's mom and cat I would give up just about anything for my cats, so I can easily understand Joni skipping something as mundane (for her) as a concert. I thought one of her cats had died a couple of years ago. In a 2004 interview, she said she had three cats and a dog, and that's one less cat than she used to have. I started worrying about her cats the day she bought the dog, since Jack Russells are notoriously bad with cats. At 03:39 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote: >I also am convinced that Joni was not making up an excuse about her cat >being ill. I wonder if it is her beloved Nietsche (Man from Mars) - I >believe he is the eldest of her cats. He has been through so much with >her and I'm sure it is tough for her at this time. > >Kakki - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: NJC - The Boss & Transamerica Bob Muller wrote: > Speaking of Syriana, there's been so much discussion here about > Brokeback, I wonder if anyone else has seen Transamerica. I caught it > while in NYC, and thought the film, and particularly Felicity Huffman's > performance, was spellbinding. One of the most amazing pieces of acting > I've ever seen. And it gave me an insight to the transgendered community > that I didn't have previously. I thought Huffman was spectacular and rose above a pretty mundane, disease of the week, Lifetime script. The music was great. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:05:22 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Podcast Interview (njc) My dear Kakki, When I read your post this morning, I just felt this peace and contentment wash all over me. Thank you for letting me know that you enjoyed the interview! That's why I'm really trying to do the music. I want to be like Joni and be honest and true. That's the legacy she leaves to the world. I tried not to appear nervous or let my gasp be audible when he asked me to do a gospel number! I knew about singing something at the end, but he slipped the other in!!!! Yikes! After it was over and we said our goodbyes on the phone (Ron is a very nice person) I was a bit numb the rest of the day. That was my first full length interview and it felt a bit surreal. The Kinks are one of my favorite groups and Petula Clark's "Downtown" is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. I'm glad you like them too!! I'm glad you were encouraged in some way! Love, Sherelle >From: >To: >CC: >Subject: Podcast Interview (njc) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:55:06 -0800 > >Sherelle, > >Your interview was so fantastic! I swear I felt like I was listening to the >best of Joni at times - you have her ability to speak about many subjects >and manage to inspire at the same time. I was personally very uplifted on >many levels by listening to it. > >I am so happy for your continuing success in following your dreams. And I >love that your musical influences include the Kinks, Petula Clark and jazz. >Yes! ;-) > >Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:58:22 -0000 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: Passive smoking cat Subject: Re: Passive smoking cat now njc - --- Paul Headon wrote: > > O mike that exhibits a wicked sense of humour - like > it :-) > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon > > From Wales > I thought it was pretty funny too - but cats really can get asthma, diabetes and a whole bunch more. I have three cats although I'm apparently allergic to them. When one of mine sneezes, I wonder whether they might be allergic... to humans! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:53:04 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road... hi >>>victor wrote >>>> I'm back on the jmdl. I think a vacation did me well. hey welcome back victor!!!! missed you around here - i was thinking of you the other day when i was lsitening to your cd ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:02:27 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Digest content, njc I find that to be interesting Kenny. . I like to know the inner processes. . simple or not. Marianne From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: long Digest content Hi all, Thought I'd pass along a little tip (that some of you may be able to use) when you get lots of JMDL posts and some are long: I often get so many emails (including digest posts) and don't have the time to sit at the computer & read through every one. Where I work, they print out daily reports of one kind or another that get thrown in the trash when they're done. I take that paper (as much as 100 sheets a day), bring it home & use the reverse side to print out long emails or posts (like the JMDL site) and then read them at my liesure while I'm having breakfast or lunch or when it gets slow at work. Saves me money on buying paper (plus I'm recycling) and also makes it easy to just circle or highlight something I want to respond to next time I get back online. Kenny B _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:13:03 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road... me too Victor...missed you. I was asking Jody in NYC where the hell ya been?!? rosie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:33:33 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Joni and Carnegie >if she was smart she might have claimed to be under the weather herself< Here I am replying to my own post this morning to say that I ought not to have used the word smart because joni is extremely smart... then again it is a good example of one of those stupid phrases that gets used without thinking... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:51:19 +0000 From: "clive sax" Subject: Brokeback shopping list (NJC) Weekly Grocery Lists for Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist, Summer, 1962 WEEK ONE Beans Bacon Coffee Whiskey WEEK TWO Beans Ham Coffee Whiskey WEEK THREE Beans Bacon Coffee Whiskey K-Y WEEK FOUR Beans Pancetta Coffee (espresso grind) Whiskey 2 tubes K-Y WEEK FIVE Jasmine rice Prosciutto, approx. 8 ounces, thinly sliced Medallions of veal Porcini mushrooms 1/2 pint of heavy whipping cream 1 Cub Scout uniform, size 42 long 5-6 bottles good Chardonnay 1 large bottle Astro-glide WEEK SIX Yukon Gold potatoes Heavy whipping cream Asparagus (very thin) Eggs Lemons Gruyere cheese (well aged) Walnuts Arugula Butter Olive oil Balsamic vinegar 6 yards white silk organdy 6 yards pale ivory taffeta Case of Chardonnay Large tin Crisco - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Premium gives you PC protection, junk-mail filters, advanced communication tools and great software like MSN Encarta. Premium. Click here for a FREE trial! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:58:43 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road... - --- waytoblue@comcast.net wrote: > Hello, > > I'm back on the jmdl. I think a vacation did me > well. I heard about the tribute in NYC...sounds > like it was a lot of fun. > > I'm currently going to music school at GSU in > Atlanta. It's a little weird with so many > classmates who are 18, 19, 20...but after one full > semester I'm over the novelty of it and I'm going to > just focus more on my classes. Honestly, I'm kind > of tired of being around so many kids so much. At > first it was funny but its starting to get kind of > old. Victor! It's great to see your name again. Welcome back and congrats on the school business... I think! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:37:27 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road... Welcome back, Victor! I've been wondering where you had been, my blue-eyed= =20 son. Missed you much. Thanks for paying your respects to Coretta Scott King. I would've liked to= =20 honor her as lay in state too, but, oh Atlanta(!), I couldn't get back home=20= to=20 you. =20 My mother forwarded me a .pdf copy of Mrs. King's 28-page, vintage=20 photo-filled funeral program, Victor, which a friend from Atlanta had sent h= er. Now=20 I'm sending it to you. I'll send it to anyone who requests it, too. Happy weekend everyone. Anyone going to check out the Winter Olympics from= =20 Turin? Me too. - -Julius In a message dated 2/10/06 7:48:19 AM, waytoblue@comcast.net writes: > Hello, >=20 > I'm back on the jmdl.=A0 I think a vacation did me well.=A0 I heard about=20= the=20 > tribute in NYC...sounds like it was a lot of fun.=A0 >=20 > I'm currently going to music school at GSU in Atlanta.=A0=20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of funeralprogram.pdf] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:32:44 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road...redux I'm busy writing "never send attachments to the JMDL..." 1000 times. Sorry. Repost follows: ______ Welcome back, Victor! I've been wondering where you had been, my blue-eyed son. Missed you much. Thanks for paying your respects to Coretta Scott King. I would've liked to honor her as lay in state too, but, oh Atlanta(!), I couldn't get back home to you. My mother forwarded me a .pdf copy of Mrs. King's 28-page, vintage photo-filled funeral program, Victor, which a friend from Atlanta had sent her. Now I'm sending it to you. I'll send it to anyone who requests it, too. Happy weekend everyone. Anyone going to check out the Winter Olympics from Turin? Me too. - -Julius In a message dated 2/10/06 7:48:19 AM, waytoblue@comcast.net writes: > Hello, > > I'm back on the jmdl. I think a vacation did me well. I heard about the > tribute in NYC...sounds like it was a lot of fun. > > I'm currently going to music school at GSU in Atlanta. > > I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:35:20 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Obligatory Award Show Rant njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" > Yeah, Sly is a mess. He looked like a common man who had a series of > industrial accidents and hasn't yet become a super-hero. LOL ...poor Sly, at least he showed up, and there seemed to be a problem with his mic > And yeah, because you and Muller and Niki Dakota at WYSO turned me on to > "Extraordinary Machine", I also think Fionna Apple wuz mugged. Stevie > Wonder, Sting, and McCartney have plenty of Grammies at home but >will the > next one in nest glitter for them so>? On the other hand, if > she > had "a big head" before, what's she gonna be like now that she's been > nominated? She's been nominated several times before for both of her past releases, as well as her duet with Johnny Cash on "Bridge Over Troubled Water", and even won in '97, best female rock vocal for "Criminal", her only real hit song. As her song "Waltz" says: Everyone else's goal's to get big-headed Why should I follow that beat Being that I'm Better than fine A great archive of past Grammy winners going back to 1958, including search: http://theenvelope.latimes.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:46:56 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: Re: winningest NJC I'm from Wisconsin, and yes, people here make up words all the time. But I have never heard anyone say 'winningest' or 'mowingest.' I do, however, have relatives who say stuff like 'gonculator' instead of 'calculator,' and 'schveinhoppers' instead of 'grasshoppers' - the minty drink (I think they are making fun of our own German heritage). My adult son keeps walking around saying the word 'chingus' -- as in 'I have to buy a chingus to fix my car,' or 'I left my chingus in the house.' I think it is a substitution for the word 'thing.' I ask him about this word all the time, and I never get a straight answer. He enjoys keeping me forever in the dark. I don't even know if he made it up. Anybody ever hear of this word - 'chingus' ? Thanks, Mia <> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:33:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: winningest NJC Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road...NJC Hiya Victor, and welcome back...I sorta figured you'd find your way back sooner or later, and glad you did. And it was more of that JMDL synchro - when I saw your post my random Windows Media Player was spinning "Broken Candles" from Parsonage Lane. Have a great trip to Boston - I was hanging with Jody and That Guy a week ago and they're great. Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Mojo Pin" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:04:30 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: winningest NJC mia asked? mia, tod is from wisconsin as well. He says a chingus is comparable to a doo-hickie or whatcha-madingie. He knew the word immediately but said he had never heard the other two. mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:42:23 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Joni and Julius go to med school Hi Julius, I used the beautiful photo of you and Joni today in my brainstem lecture to the medical students. I asked them if they recognized the lady in the photo, but they didn't until I said, "Joni Mitchell." Then I told them how you asked me to tell people who saw the photo that you aren't trying to choke Joni. I was talking about the gag reflex which involves cranial nerves 9 and 10. I told them you were on cloud 9 to meet Joni and think she is a 10 in the music world. They loved the photo!!! Thanks again for sharing it. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:00:14 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Julius go to med school I've always wanted to be a teacher's aide, sorta, Laura. You're so sweet. I'm honored to be included in your Med School lecture and, geez, I hope Joni is too. I'll ask Sam Feldman... Do I now need to take the Hippocratic Oath, btw? And do I get to sport a spiffy white lab coat with a Grateful Dead tie-dye concert T-shirt, festooned with a festive "steal-your-face," concealed beneath it? Like the good professor you are, you got me thinking, Laura (and that ain't easy). I learned all the following today thanks to you, Professor Dr. Stanley. Thanks for teaching me tonight. Ever Your Apt Pupil, Julius CN9 (Glosopharyngeal) and CN 10 (Vagus): These nerves are responsible for raising the soft palate of the mouth and the gag reflex, a protective mechanism which prevents food or liquid from traveling into the lungs As both CNs contribute to these functions, they are tested together. Testing Elevation of the soft palate: 1 Ask the patient to open their mouth and say, bahhhh,b causing the soft palate to rise upward. 2 Look at the uvula, a midline structure hanging down from the palate. If the tongue obscures your view, take a tongue depressor and gently push it down and out of the way. 3 The Uvula should rise up straight and in the midline. Normal Oropharynx Interpretation: If CN 9 on the right is not functioning (e.g. in the setting of a stroke), the uvula will be pulled to the left. The opposite occurs in the setting of left CN 9 dysfunction. Left CN9 Dysfunction: Patient status post stroke affecting left CN9. Uvula therefore pulled over towards right. Be aware that other processes can cause deviation of the uvula. A peritonsilar abscess, for example, will push the uvula towards the opposite (i.e. normal) tonsil. Left peritonsillar abscess: infection within left tonsil has pushed uvula towards the right. Testing the Gag Reflex: 1 Ask the patient to widely open their mouth. If you are unable to see the posterior pharynx (i.e. the back of their throat), gently push down with a tongue depressor. 2 In some patients, the tongue depressor alone will elicit a gag. In most others, additional stimulation is required.B Take a cotton tipped applicator and gently brush it against the posterior pharynx or uvula. This should generate a gag in most patients. 3 A small but measurable percent of the normal population has either a minimal or non-existent gag reflex. Presumably, they make use of other mechanisms to prevent aspiration. Gag testing is rather noxious. Some people are particularly sensitive to even minimal stimulation. As such, I would suggest that you only perform this test when there is reasonable suspicion that pathology exists. This would include two major clinical situations: 1 If you suspect that the patient has suffered acute dysfunction, most commonly in the setting of a stroke. These patients may complain of/be noted to cough when they swallow. Or, they may suffer from recurrent pneumonia.B Both of these events are signs of aspiration of food contents into the passageways of the lungs. These patients may also have other cranial nerve abnormalities as lesions affecting CN 9 and 10 often affect CNs 11 and 12, which are anatomically nearby. 2 Patientbs suffering from sudden decreased level of consciousness. In this setting, the absence of a gag might indicate that the patient is no longer able to reflexively protect their airway from aspiration. Strong consideration should be given to intubating the patient, providing them with a secure mechanical airway until their general condition improves. CN 9 is also responsible for taste originating on the posterior 1/3 of the tongue. As this is rarely a clinically important problem, further discussion is not included. CN 10 also provides parasympathetic innervation to the heart, though this cannot be easily tested on physical examination. In a message dated 2/10/06 7:42:23 PM, LCStanley7 writes: > Hi Julius, > B > B B B B I used the beautiful photo of you and Joni today in my > brainstemB lecture to the medical students.B I asked them if they recognized the lady in the > photo, but they didn't until I said, "Joni Mitchell."B Then I told them how > you asked me to tell people who saw the photo that you aren't trying to choke > Joni.B I was talking about the gag reflex which involves cranial nerves 9 and > 10.B I told them you were on cloud 9 to meet Joni and think she is a 10 in > the music world.B They loved the photo!!!B Thanks again for sharing it. > B > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:31:38 -0800 From: Subject: Re: Podcasts and Petula (njc) Sherelle, you wrote: > That was my first full length interview and it felt a bit surreal. You were very pro and came across wonderfully! >Petula Clark's "Downtown" is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever >heard. I love it - me, too! It is one of those rare songs where I remember perfectly where I was when I first heard it. I was riding my skateboard down the street holding an old transistor radio up to one ear! After that everytime I would hear it come on I would sing it out loud as I rode along. I was such an overt geek (which is what you are before you have an awareness of innate geekiness - now it is just a little more covert ;-) Her songs are so great. Kakki NPIMH: "the lights are much brighter there, you can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares" and "I know a place where the music is fine and the lights are always low, I know a place where we can go" Oh wouldn't it be fun if we all get together again and do a Petula set?! I know we do have a few other fans among us, too! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #54 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------