From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #28 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 028 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- You see? [Cathy VE ] Re: You see? [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: shi***ng on her fans NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos [Catherine McKay ] COUNTDOWN [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos [Dflahm@aol.com] change in plans [LCStanley7@aol.com] I asked the I Ching, will Joni Attend? [RoseMJoy@aol.com] NJC NY weather for the 1st?? [Em ] Re: I asked the I Ching, will Joni Attend? [Catherine McKay ] hoky? [Kate ] Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos ["Sherelle Smith" ] Fatherhood NJC ["Cassy" ] sjc, freedom on the jmdl ["Patti Parlette" ] Say what?! [JRMCo1@aol.com] njc, Duke, then Patty Duke ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl ["Sherelle Smith" ] njc, Patty Duke wannabees [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees [Catherine McKay ] Re: njc, Patty Duke wannabees [JRMCo1@aol.com] more proof Florida should be thrown out of the USA njc [revrvl@comcast.ne] Re: Cathy's Post -- NJC [Lori Fye ] Re: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke [Lori Fye ] Re: NJC NY weather for the 1st?? [Bob Muller ] RE: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke ["Azeem" ] Joni at Wembley 83 dvd Vine [Randy Remote ] Re: Cathy's Post -- NJC [Lori Fye ] Re: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke [Lori Fye ] Re: more proof Florida should be thrown out of the USA njc [Lori Fye Subject: You see? This is exactly why I fear success more than failure. I'd have a bunch of people discussing me like I was a plastic figure of some kind who really don't know me... judging the motives of my heart. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:09:00 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: You see? Bonnie Raitt sings "What is Success?" It's a good song. Check it out, Cathy Ann. We can discuss. Glad you're still around. Sincerely apologize about seeming to objectify...not my intention. I'm sorry. I, for one, would like to get to know you. That's an interesting thing you just said about success, I think. See? You've valued me already! But we need to teach you "NJC" if you're gonna hang, newbie. :-) The joni-onlies are real touchy when they see the word "ignorance" when all they want to hear about is you-know-who. Peace. Out. - -Julius In a message dated 1/24/06 12:36:48 AM, cathyannve@yahoo.com writes: > This is exactly why I fear success more than failure. I'd have a bunch of > people discussing me like I was a plastic figure of some kind who really > don't know me... judging the motives of my heart. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:47:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: shi***ng on her fans NJC Whoa - #3!! You are now a SERIOUS parent, Rob - not a lowly amateur like me that only has one, and even he's in college now so I can just putter around all the time. Congratulations on your expanding family, I'm sure your wonderful sense of humor allows you to be a great Dad. And THANKS SO MUCH for reminding me of that Saskatoon Centennial thingy...having to watch unfunny man Brent Butt and a host of mediocre talent just to get to that Joni medley montage and Joni with her beauty pageant wave...thanks for the memories. Besides, you & I have already met Joni and had our pictures taken with her. Speaking of which, if you're able I'd love to see that pic of you & her again. That sh*t-eating grin on your face is worth a million bucks. Bob NP: Joe Jackson, "You Can't Get What You Want (Til You Know What You Want)" - --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:17:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos - --- kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Anyway, I remember Julius excitedly telling me when > we saw Joni at the > Commonwealth last March that she had mentioned maybe > performing one song at > a future "childrens' benefit" so there was some > reason for high hopes here. > (I did wonder if she may be put off by the NYC > smoking laws and was hoping > someone like Mayor Bloomberg could give her special > dispensation or > something). > Whatever the reason (if indeed she was going to show up at all - maybe there's some other "children's benefit" coming along), I hope it wasn't because she wanted to exercise her god-given right to smoke. That would be a pretty lame excuse. P.S. Welcome back. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:49:05 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: COUNTDOWN 9 DAYS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:53:04 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos The smoking issue---yes, it would be a "lame" excuse, but since it is apparently a serious addiction, it is (to me) a very plausible reason to skip the trip. Flying (except on a private jet) LA-NY involves at least six hours without a fix. I'm very happy to see a post from Kakki. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:05:49 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: change in plans Hi Ya'll, I'm sorry to say, I won't be coming to NY after all. Last night Marianne and Bree called me to say that Marianne found out the doctor thinks her dad has less than a month to live. So, she can't travel right now and Bree of course can't leave Marianne to attend the Tribute. They were going to give me a ride from Albany, and we were going to sit next to each other at the concert. With this and also with my husband's mother not doing well right now, I guess the trip just wasn't meant to be for me. I was looking forward to seeing you all and hope I can in the future. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:50:50 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: I asked the I Ching, will Joni Attend? (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?format=print&rID=70769552) (javascript:email('70769552')) (javascript:notes('70769552')) (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?rID=70769552&type=sw) Your Complete I-Ching Reading Tuesday (1.24.06) 5:43am PST will Joni attend? About Your I-Ching Reading Your complete I-Ching Reading is divided into 4 parts: * _Your Present Hexagram_ (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?rID=70769552&code=#present) * _Your Changing Lines_ (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?rID=70769552&code=#clines) * _Your Future Hexagram_ (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?rID=70769552&code=#future) * _Going Forward_ (http://www.tarot.com/oracle/reply.php?rID=70769552&code=#goforward) Your Present Hexagram This hexagram gives you reflection on the situation or relationship as it was at the time you cast your coins. 57 "Gentle Penetration" B) 1998-2006 Visionary Networks The general situation suggests a subtle penetration. Reeds bend softly in the wind, symbolizing flexibility and endurance. Here we see quiet, relaxed effectiveness in action. A gentle influence is at work, but just as the wind is ceaseless in its efforts, so too small forces can persist to produce lasting results. Gentle penetration bodes well for new relationships. Just as a summer breeze slowly penetrates the woods to cool the forest, the ideas of gifted leaders slowly reach the minds and sink into the hearts of the people. In personal relationships, a gentle beginning is often linked to a long-lasting union. When employing a force that is weak but persistent, careful aim is necessary, for only when a small force continually moves in the same direction can it have much effect. In human affairs, this kind of influence comes more through strength of character than by any direct confrontation or seduction. It's important to have, and stick to, clearly defined goals. Maintaining a strong vision and following a steady course of least resistance often brings good fortune. Your Changing Lines The _Changing Lines_ (javascript:moreInfo('lines')) , if you get any, are the part of an I-Ching reading that give the most powerful advice about a situation or issue, because they represent the factors that are causing things to change right now. You have two Changing Lines. Either one or the other or some combination of both of them will be relevant. The first changing line is line 1 Inborn gentleness often has indecision as a negative side effect. This situation points to a case of a gentle spirit drifting into quandary, becoming filled with self-doubt. When the rudder of personal will flaps back and forth uncontrollably, with no clear direction, it must be grasped firmly, and set back on course. Some kind of external discipline may be necessary to accomplish this. The second changing line is line 2 When dark forces seem to be undermining your plans, trace the shadows back to their source, and gently expose them to the light. Openness and honesty succeed - but only if you are first honest with yourself. Search your heart and mind for hidden enemies: self-pity, pride or a rigid view of what "should" happen in life. An excess of either hard and arrogant, or soft and self-indulgent, feelings obstructs progress and saps your strength. By gently bringing negative inner feelings to the light of day, you can effectively rob them of their power over you. Your Future Hexagram When you have one or more _Changing Lines_ (javascript:moreInfo('lines')) , you also have a second hexagram, "Future", which predicts the way things are going to go if you follow the advice of the Changing Lines. Asking the I-Ching for a new approach to your concern or situation is an excellent idea when you don't like the looks of where things seem to be headed. 37 "Community" B) 1998-2006 Visionary Networks A family that works is one where healthy interdependence is supported. Leadership is essential, but strong kinship is dependent upon every member of the clan. Trust, shared responsibilities and good communication are essential. Each member must be encouraged to find his or her appropriate expression, and contribution. The functional family is a team which symbolizes the ideal of human interdependence, and has long provided a firm foundation for society. The healthy family is a microcosm of society and the native soil in which ethical values take root and grow. Fertilize this soil, and the whole of society benefits. The power which bonds a family together is the feminine principle - gentleness and receptivity. Relationships in all kinds of teams are improved through cultivation of this principle. Learn to accept both advice and aid from others, and be willing to assume an appropriate role in any group you join. A good team player is very valuable to others. 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Perfect Timing Ancient oracles like the I-Ching reflect the way that things b and people b go together in time. You cast the the coins to construct a reading that advises you on the right moves to make at the time. But it doesn't analyze every upcoming hour in order to help you plan how to use your future time. AstroSync tracks the powerful influence of the transiting moon and pinpoints the best times to attract or to approach another person. AstroSync is totally customized to you and the people who are in your life. _Click here_ (http://www.tarot.com/go2/a-self/freereading-astrosync) to find out how _AstroSync_ (http://www.tarot.com/go2/a-self/freereading-astrosync) can improve all your relationships b and increase your pleasure in life b all day long every day! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: NJC NY weather for the 1st?? extended forecast says: Partly cloudy, high of 40, low around 32, chance of precipitation 20%. Sounds pretty good, huh? :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:28:52 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I asked the I Ching, will Joni Attend? - --- RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > The general situation suggests a subtle penetration. > Reeds bend softly in the > wind, symbolizing flexibility and endurance. Yeah, right. So, will she or won't she? ha ha ha! I never understand what the I Ching is talking about. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:34:46 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: I asked the I Ching, will Joni Attend? (NJC) I agree Catherine, LOL. So what's the bottom line? Spill it Rose!! ;-) Looking forward to seeing everyone in NYC! Gary Catherine McKay wrote: >--- RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > > >>The general situation suggests a subtle penetration. >>Reeds bend softly in the >> wind, symbolizing flexibility and endurance. >> >> > >Yeah, right. So, will she or won't she? ha ha ha! I >never understand what the I Ching is talking about. > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Cathy's Post Hi To The Most Wonderful Group of Friends I've Ever Had! I just read the Digest and I'm reeling in shock from Cathy's Posting. Do you know what has me the most troubled? How can someone love Joni, appreciate the complexities of her work and Post something so hurtful? Cathy, if you're reading this, what do you mean "I never thought it would be like this"? Like what? What's not fulfilling for you? I don't usually experience angry feelings.... accept another person's perspective without judgment....but something about Cathy's posting hurt. And I'm entitled to express my feelings as are you, Cathy. However, you haven't given any one of the Digest members a chance...you can't possibly know anyone in such little time. Most of all...I've got it...what's really bugging me...why post something like that at all? Was it meant to be hurtful? And, during a time when there is so much excitement that we are having about the up-coming Joni Tribute. I apologize if I've offended anyone by posting this but I think Cathy's posting deserves my honest reply. Oh...why "peep" and why "Bo"...promised I'd tell you. Long story short. My parents adopted a baby boy who was born with mid-brain damage...more commonly known as Cerebral Palsy. Mike couldn't say "Phyllis" (a name I really don't feel comfortable with at all after being teased in school because it happens to rhyme with a horrible disease)...anyhow, Mike came up with Peep. Later when my parent took in Barb after her mother died, She started calling me Bo Peep....not good!!! So she shortened it to Bo. There...you have it! Now, back to Cathy. Cathy, Joni has been a deeply pivotal person in my life even though we haven't actually "met". There are all kinds of meetings in one's life. I've learned so much from this amazingly talented, complex and very kind woman. I've had the good fortune to pass along some of what I've learned from Joni to others. I taught a gentleman who was released from prison how to read from her early albums. I've "entertained" very lost souls who have been tucked away in mental institutions with Joni's songs...we sang "out of tune" together and felt great. I've learned more from Joni regarding self-expression, self-respect and not selling out than anyone else. And I've found delight, solace, and, through her magical music and words have had the outlet to express an array of feelings. I wish you have the same set of positive experiences with someone or something in your life. Sorry this is so long...guess I had some things to say. WOW...am I looking at life from both sides now! Love from Bo - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos  Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:45:43 -0600 From: Kate Subject: hoky? Rob: > Back to fatherhood (daughter #3 was born Nov. 21 for those I haven't talked to > for a while), Congratulations. You and a houseful of women! Isn't that what you always dreamed of? And what do you mean Sask talent is hoky ... I don't think so! Besides Joan and Buffy, there's Ben Hepner, Colin James ... not to mention the lesser-knowns like Jack Semple ... why, for a province with only one million people, we're pulling our weight in the talent field well enough. Kate of the North online journal: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Who does she think she is? Anaos Nin? http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:09:46 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos Dearest Kakki, What a wonderful feeling to see your post on the list! It's so nice to hear from you and to know that even though you are busy you are doing all right. I am excited about going to New York and being able to really experience it even if for just a day. Most of all, I am excited about being with my Joni people and sharing those friendships! I wish you could be there too!!! Love, Sherelle Kakki wrote: Hi all, I've been away for awhile buried in work and life but have been keeping up a bit with the tribute plans. Joni or no Joni you all are surely going to have a spectacular time. The artists performing at the tribute are incredible (I think hearing Sedaka do a Joni cover is almost worth the price of admission alone....and Allison Krauss and Judy and Nelly ... geez!) Hell the Rockwood event alone sounds amazing to me. Anyway, I remember Julius excitedly telling me when we saw Joni at the Commonwealth last March that she had mentioned maybe performing one song at a future "childrens' benefit" so there was some reason for high hopes here. (I did wonder if she may be put off by the NYC smoking laws and was hoping someone like Mayor Bloomberg could give her special dispensation or something). I recently read an item here in a local magazine about a new hot spot that Joni is frequenting in L.A. so I think she is O.K. But here is the first thought that came to my mind when I heard she would not be attending the tribute - she has elderly parents in their 90s and she is the only child. Having been there myself I will tell you that it is pretty much impossible to plan ahead for *anything* especially travel. One is very much "on call" 24/7. It's something to consider. To all who are going - have a GREAT time, bring us back lots of stories and maybe some ahem recordings. Wish I could see you all there and look forward to hearding all about it. And hey, maybe she and Lori will decide to catch a red eye after the long lunch at the Grill - heehee. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:31:40 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Fatherhood NJC From: "Robert Procyk" <<< Back to fatherhood (daughter #3 was born Nov. 21 for those I haven't talked to for a while) >>> Rob, This reminded me of being at a Paul Anka concert once, he has a wife and 5 daughters and made the comment that when he's been on the road and comes home, if the toilet seat is up someone's in trouble. Best wishes on the birth of your child. I hope you're beginning to get a bit more sleep. Warmly, Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:43:29 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, freedom on the jmdl Sherelle wrote: I have always loved the freedom we give each other to speak our minds about whatever we feel. Mack shared his thoughtsand they didn't offend me in the least because that's what we do here. We talk about what we really feel good, bad, or ugly. In my opinion, Mack is following Joni's lead by sharing his feelings because Joni has done the very same thing in regard to not being appreciated. Whether you agree or disagree, isn't this what being on the Joni list is all about? I really wanted to see her at least once in the flesh but I probably would have passed out anyway if it had happened! (Ha! Ha!) Seriously, I don't know what coulda-woulda-shoulda happened here but Mack is being honest and that in my opinion should always be honored here. I stand by everyone's right to say what they feel here pro or con. It's the spirit of the list. - ---------- Applause, applause! Brava, Sherelle! And Vince, too (or, rather, "bravo", in the case of you), because you recently expressed similar thoughts on freedom of expression/discussion here. Hear Joni sing now: ".....we love our loving, but not like we love our free-eeee--eeee---DOM......" I enjoy seeing all the different opinions and feelings and perspectives on this list. I have learned a lot here. I am constantly enlightened and humbled and reminded how we all really *do* come from such different sets of circumstance. R-E-S-P-E-C-T is my number one rule. If someone goes on about something I'm not particularly interested in, I just scroll down, yet I am happy for that person who has found something to be passionate about. Chacun a son gout! I love the honesty. I love the passion. Of course, I prefer it when all are friendly, and not cutting. And Sherelle, I think I would pass out, too, if Joni came! And ha ha -- I might crash right into YOUR arms (because I am in Row E and you are in Row F) -- or into Julius's, because he is two seats away from me in Row E! Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:03:10 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Say what?! This is bizarre. Had to post it. lol! http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell - -Julius Joni Mitchell Joni Mitchell is best known as the inventor of cannibalism. The actual circumstances of this world-changing discovery were rather interesting, as we will soon go into as soon as we finish getting our stomach pumped, and give the usher a nice tip. Now, then: Joni Mitchell invented cannibalism during a costume party being held by Jane Fonda (shortly before Ms. Fonda invented the Vietcong). Joni, who was dressed as Mork from Ork, had passed out in a vat of yogurt when she overheard a conversation being held by a coven of kittens dressed as rabbis describing the variety of flavour and succulence of the flesh of humans. Mistaking the kittens for God, Joni forged a sword from quantum to gut and fillet the parents of a young Oprah Winfrey, incidentally inspiring Ms. Winfrey to begin her life-long crusade against crime and the forces of evil as the costumed hero Batman. Other historians dispute this version of events, insisting that this must have been one of Ms. Winfrey's hundreds of clones, which she made from the rich African soul of Strom Thurmond. In any case, with the patronage of Jane Fonda, Joni's invention caught on, at one time being mass-marketed by Milton Bradley in the form of various board games, including Operation, Hungry Hungry Oprahs, Gut and Fillet Oprah Winfrey 's Parents Before She Becomes Batman, and Christianity. The sole hero of that depraved night of horror was Sid Vicious, of the superhero team the Sex Pistols. Vicious, who had been writing Java applets in the upstairs flat, broke through a brick wall with the power of his beautiful voice and managed to rescue hundreds of schoolgirls from a fate more filling than death. A little-known fact is that Joni Mitchell was also a Folk Singer. Her songs however tended to be haunting melodies about the Donner Party , Andean Soccer expeditions and Advanced Placement Precalculus, None of which sell well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:09:56 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke Mike Hicks wondered: >Patti, >Why all the hate of Duke? Hi Mike, can I answer this a bit later? There is a long history, starting in 1990 with Christian Laettner. But I don't have time right now -- I have to verify some things and dig in my archives for a quote. So "later", okay Joni- bro? (But let's not use the word "hate" -- I hate that word! ) Then Lori, who cracks me up, wrote: Why is anyone picking on Patty Duke? She was my third crush!! (First was a girl nicknamed "Shorty" on the 1960s Cleveland area program, "The Gene Carroll Show." Second was Judy Garland.) With a wink and a smile, Lori - ---------- Patti Duke!!!! Yes! All those crushes/idols, in our formative years. What great memories! Take me back, Lori. I didn't know your Shorty, but I loved Judy Garland, and above all, I loved Patty Duke. LOL....I thought I *was* Patty Duke (the name helped). I lived for that show! Remember the song? THE PATTY DUKE SHOW THEME (Sid Ramin / Bob Wells) Meet Cathy, who's lived most everywhere, From Zanzibar to Barclay Square. But Patty's only seen the sights A girl can see from Brooklyn Heights  What a crazy pair! But they're cousins, Identical cousins all the way. One pair of matching bookends, Different as night and day. Where Cathy adores a minuet, The Ballet Russes, and crepe suzette, Our Patty loves to rock and roll, A hot dog makes her lose control  What a wild duet! Still, they're cousins, Identical cousins and you'll find, They laugh alike, they walk alike, At times they even talk alike  You can lose your mind, When cousins are two of a kind. - ---------------------------- (As we all know, two heads are better than one.) Did you see her in the movie "Billie", as a track star? With that beat in her head that made her run fast? I think she even had an album out. I must have had it. In my pre-adolescent years (mid-1960s -- yeah, I'm old), I also loved Hayley Mills. No, I *adored* Hayley Mills. She was more like Cathy Duke, with that exotic and beautiful British accent. I saw ALL of her movies. I still love her. She was supposed to appear in a Mozart play (about his sister) here at UConn in the fall and then she cancelled and I was terribly disappointed. From that same era, does anyone remember the gorgeous Yvette Mimieux who played a beautiful surfer on "Dr. Kildare"? She had epilepsy and defied his medical advice and kept surfing anyway, following her passion. I think she died in his arms. So tragic and beautiful! I was really caught up in those episodes (but never obsessively, of course!). And then there is our Boston friend here who loved Shelley Fabares (from the Donna Reed Show; she sang "Johnny Angel") and even wrote to her. And I think she wrote back, didn't she? Yep, "Smurfy and Shelley sittin' in a tree.....K-I-S-S-I-N-G, first comes love, then comes marriage....." Sorry, I'm regressing. It's all your your fault, Lori. You started it! Another wink and a smile, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:19:44 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl Whew!!! You make my seat location very real and alive! I love being up close!!! I can't wait! "Help Me I'm I think I'm fallin...." Love, Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: sjc, freedom on the jmdl >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:43:29 +0000 > >Sherelle wrote: > >I have always loved the freedom we give each other to speak our minds about >whatever we feel. Mack shared his thoughtsand they didn't offend me in the >least because that's what we do here. We talk about what we really feel >good, bad, or ugly. In my opinion, Mack is following Joni's lead by sharing >his feelings because Joni has done the very same thing in regard to not >being appreciated. Whether you agree or disagree, isn't this what being on >the Joni list is all about? > >I really wanted to see her at least once in the flesh but I probably would >have passed out anyway if it had happened! (Ha! Ha!) Seriously, I don't >know >what coulda-woulda-shoulda happened here but Mack is being honest and that >in my opinion should always be honored here. I stand by everyone's right to >say what they feel here pro or con. It's the spirit of the list. > >---------- > >Applause, applause! > >Brava, Sherelle! And Vince, too (or, rather, "bravo", in the case of >you), because you recently expressed similar thoughts on freedom of >expression/discussion here. > >Hear Joni sing now: ".....we love our loving, but not like we love our >free-eeee--eeee---DOM......" > >I enjoy seeing all the different opinions and feelings and perspectives on >this list. I have learned a lot here. I am constantly enlightened and >humbled and reminded how we all really *do* come from such different sets >of circumstance. R-E-S-P-E-C-T is my number one rule. If someone goes on >about something I'm not particularly interested in, I just scroll down, yet >I am happy for that person who has found something to be passionate about. >Chacun a son gout! > >I love the honesty. I love the passion. Of course, I prefer it when all >are friendly, and not cutting. > >And Sherelle, I think I would pass out, too, if Joni came! And ha ha -- I >might crash right into YOUR arms (because I am in Row E and you are in Row >F) -- or into Julius's, because he is two seats away from me in Row E! > >Love, > >Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:20:35 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Say what?! Okay. Someone has too much time on their hands. > This is bizarre. Had to post it. lol! > > http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell > > -Julius > > Joni Mitchell > > Joni Mitchell is best known as the inventor of cannibalism. The actual > circumstances of this world-changing discovery were rather interesting, as > we will > soon go into as soon as we finish getting our stomach pumped, and give the > usher a nice tip. > > Now, then: Joni Mitchell invented cannibalism during a costume party being > held by Jane Fonda (shortly before Ms. Fonda invented the Vietcong). Joni, > who > was dressed as Mork from Ork, had passed out in a vat of yogurt when she > overheard a conversation being held by a coven of kittens dressed as > rabbis > describing the variety of flavour and succulence of the flesh of humans. > > Mistaking the kittens for God, Joni forged a sword from quantum to gut and > fillet the parents of a young Oprah Winfrey, incidentally inspiring Ms. > Winfrey > to begin her life-long crusade against crime and the forces of evil as the > costumed hero Batman. > > Other historians dispute this version of events, insisting that this must > have been one of Ms. Winfrey's hundreds of clones, which she made from the > rich > African soul of Strom Thurmond. > In any case, with the patronage of Jane Fonda, Joni's invention caught on, > at > one time being mass-marketed by Milton Bradley in the form of various > board > games, including Operation, Hungry Hungry Oprahs, Gut and Fillet Oprah > Winfrey > 's Parents Before She Becomes Batman, and Christianity. > > The sole hero of that depraved night of horror was Sid Vicious, of the > superhero team the Sex Pistols. Vicious, who had been writing Java applets > in the > upstairs flat, broke through a brick wall with the power of his beautiful > voice > and managed to rescue hundreds of schoolgirls from a fate more filling > than > death. > > A little-known fact is that Joni Mitchell was also a Folk Singer. Her > songs > however tended to be haunting melodies about the Donner Party , Andean > Soccer > expeditions and Advanced Placement Precalculus, None of which sell well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:38:25 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: njc, Patty Duke wannabees Any Patti wannabe can quote the Patti Duke Show theme. A real Patti Duke fan would know her top ten hit, and no nouveau I, thus we have Please don't just stand there Come and kiss me like before Please don't just stand there Looking down at the floor If something is wrong Give me just one little sign Is there someone else Please tell me Tell me what what what what's on your mind Once when we'd meet You'd run to hold me tight Life was so sweet Until tonight Please don't just stand there Get it over if we're through Please don't just stand there While my heart breaks in two Don't be unfair How can you be so unkind Please stop hurting me And help me Tell me what what what what's on your mind If it's a game We don't want to play it And if it's goodbye Why can't you just say it Why make me cry like you do How can you be so unkind Please start loving me Or leave me Tell me what what what what's on your mind Vince, a true Patti Duke fan - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Patti Parlette" > > Patti Duke!!!! Yes! All those crushes/idols, in our formative years. What > great memories! > > THE PATTY DUKE SHOW THEME > (Sid Ramin / Bob Wells) > > Meet Cathy, who's lived most everywhere, > From Zanzibar to Barclay Square. > But Patty's only seen the sights > A girl can see from Brooklyn Heights  What a crazy pair! > > But they're cousins, > Identical cousins all the way. > One pair of matching bookends, > Different as night and day. > > Where Cathy adores a minuet, > The Ballet Russes, and crepe suzette, > Our Patty loves to rock and roll, > A hot dog makes her lose control  What a wild duet! > > Still, they're cousins, > Identical cousins and you'll find, > They laugh alike, they walk alike, > At times they even talk alike  > You can lose your mind, > When cousins are two of a kind. > > ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:50:01 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl >Whew!!! You make my seat location very real and alive! I love being up >close!!! I can't wait! "Help Me I'm I think I'm fallin...." > >Love, Sherelle > > I know, it's getting crazy, isn't it? ANTICIPATION! Shooby dooby, flip city! You might get a laugh out of this. I wrote to a friend, apologizing for being a little out of touch lately. My writing as it rambled must have revealed suspicious reasoning.......look at what he wrote back: "That's what I thought......."wasted away in JoniMitchellville"!" Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:00:58 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl Ha! Ha! Ha! Oh Gosh! Now that's funny!!!! A little Jimmy Buffet thrown in there too!!! I love it!!!! Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: RE: sjc, freedom on the jmdl >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:50:01 +0000 > > >> >>Whew!!! You make my seat location very real and alive! I love being up >>close!!! I can't wait! "Help Me I'm I think I'm fallin...." >> >>Love, Sherelle >> >> > >I know, it's getting crazy, isn't it? ANTICIPATION! Shooby dooby, flip >city! > >You might get a laugh out of this. I wrote to a friend, apologizing for >being a little out of touch lately. My writing as it rambled must have >revealed suspicious reasoning.......look at what he wrote back: > >"That's what I thought......."wasted away in JoniMitchellville"!" > >Love, > >Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:07:26 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees Ha, Vince! A *true* Patty Duke fan would know how to spell her name. It's Patty, not Patti! Gotcha back! But seriously, thank you so much for that song. Oh, how I loved it at the time (1965, 5th grade) but had almost forgotten it. Surely I *must* have had the album, probably propped up next to my only other albums at the time, Meet the Beatles, and then their second one.) Help me, I'm posting, and I can't shut up! xo, pp >From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) >To: "Patti Parlette" , joni@smoe.org, >lrfye58@gmail.com >Subject: njc, Patty Duke wannabees >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:38:25 +0000 > >Any Patti wannabe can quote the Patti Duke Show theme. > >A real Patti Duke fan would know her top ten hit, and no nouveau I, thus we >have > >Please don't just stand there >Come and kiss me like before >Please don't just stand there >Looking down at the floor >If something is wrong >Give me just one little sign >Is there someone else >Please tell me >Tell me what what what what's on your mind >Once when we'd meet >You'd run to hold me tight >Life was so sweet >Until tonight >Please don't just stand there >Get it over if we're through >Please don't just stand there >While my heart breaks in two >Don't be unfair >How can you be so unkind >Please stop hurting me >And help me >Tell me what what what what's on your mind >If it's a game >We don't want to play it >And if it's goodbye >Why can't you just say it >Why make me cry like you do >How can you be so unkind >Please start loving me >Or leave me >Tell me what what what what's on your mind > >Vince, a true Patti Duke fan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:11:46 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees Not to her most intimate friends. - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Patti Parlette" > Ha, Vince! A *true* Patty Duke fan would know how to spell her name. It's > Patty, not Patti! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:18:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees Yea. Her intimate friends call her Anna! (True.) Jerry vince wrote: > Not to her most intimate friends. > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Patti Parlette" > >> Ha, Vince! A *true* Patty Duke fan would know how to spell her name. >> It's >> Patty, not Patti! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:51:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: njc, Patty Duke wannabees - --- "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > Yea. Her intimate friends call her Anna! > (True.) > Her life story was truly bizarre (I say "was", because she seems to have emerged, after everything she went through as a kid and a young adult, as pretty friggin' balanced - after swinging madly for years). I would highly recommend her autobiography, "Call me Anna." http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553272055/104-3849270-2888769?v=glance&n=283155 or, you can read a short version of her life story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Duke Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:55:20 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, Patty Duke wannabees Here's a visual memory lane for you Duke-sters. Patty Duke, that is: http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=patty%20duke&ie=UTF-8& oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi I loved her in that track movie, too! I had a crush on her after that one for sure. That go-fast beat of hers became my mantra for my own brief track & field experience in Jr. High, too! I haven't thought about that in years. You know, I think the later film "Personal Best" with Mariel Hemingway borrowed heavily from that. (Don't get me started on Mariel and dear departed sister Marguex as flames for me in my youth.) Oh, to be young again. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:16:12 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: more proof Florida should be thrown out of the USA njc Critics Assail U. of Florida Policy That Requires Unmarried Partners Seeking Insurance to Acknowledge Having Sex By ROBIN WILSON Critics of a new policy that extends health benefits to the unmarried partners of employees at the University of Florida complain that it unfairly requires potential beneficiaries to sign an affidavit saying they are having sex with their partner before they can receive insurance. The university will begin offering health insurance to the unmarried partners of both gay and heterosexual employees in February. As part of the sign-up process, unmarried employees must show that they jointly own property with their partners, have shared bank accounts, or have a will that specifies their partner as the beneficiary. Such requirements are common among university policies that extend benefits to domestic partners. But the Florida plan goes a step further by requiring employees to swear that they and their partners "have been in a nonplatonic relationship for the preceding 12 months." Kyle J. Cavanaugh, the university's vice president for human resources, said the "intent was to convey that the relationship went beyond simply being roommates." He said the new policy "was never intended to mean that two individuals had to have physical contact" and certainly did not mean they had to be having sex. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines platonic as "transcending physical desire and tending toward the purely spiritual or ideal." Tamara Cohen, an assistant dean at Florida who is an adviser to the campus's support group for lesbian, gay, and bisexual students, said people have questioned the policy because Florida does not ask its married employees to certify that they are in nonplatonic relationships. "Is it really necessary to use language like this when we don't ask married people about the nature of their sexual relationships?" she asked. Ms. Cohen said some gay employees may be reluctant to sign such an affidavit because it could harm them in other arenas. For example, she said, the State of Florida prohibits gay and lesbian residents from adopting children. University employees might not want to disqualify themselves from adoption by certifying that they are in nonplatonic same-sex relationships. Daryl Herrschaft, who directs the workplace project for the Human Rights Campaign, a national lobbying group for gay rights, said he had never seen a domestic-partner policy like Florida's. About 295 colleges and universities offer benefits to the unmarried partners of employees, he said. "My hope is that this was sort of an overzealous attorney or someone who was drafting this policy," he said. "This clause is really unnecessary and inappropriate." He said there is no reason to believe that gay employees would lie about the nature of their relationship in order to get health insurance for someone who is not really a partner, any more than married employees would. Mr. Cavanaugh said that although critics have misinterpreted the intent of the policy, the university plans to "immediately revisit the affidavit." He added: "If I would predict, I would say we would drop that clause because of the confusion it's created." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:01:35 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Cathy's Post -- NJC Maybe Cathy was a little hasty in posting her feelings about what she found when she joined this list. However, think about this: You're a big fan of Joni, and you're a newcomer to this list. Suddenly -- almost right away -- you start seeing posts from other members, complaining that Joni is "shitting on her fans." (Is that like shit hitting the fans? One wonders, but I digress.) I think if I had joined this list just the other day and read some of those opinions, I too might be inclined to wonder wtf is going on here ... Fortunately for me, I've been around for many dim years now and I know how folks can get, particularly when they're disappointed that Joni isn't planning to show at Carnegie Hall. But give Cathy a break already. Give each other a break already! And while you're at it, give JONI a break already!! We're all just imperfect humans with too much on our minds and on our symbolic plates. Peace, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:10:05 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke Then of course there's the "alternate" version of the theme song, all of which I can't remember right now, but the last verse is: Still, they're lesbians, Identical lesbians and you'll find, They laugh alike, they walk alike, At times they even fuck alike  You can lose your mind, When lesbians are two of a kind. ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:28:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC NY weather for the 1st?? It does sound good - I was a little concerned that a major cold front would come through...except for the fluky December ice storm we had, our "winter" has been like spring and being in serious cold weather would chill my bones. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Christmas Card From A Hooker in Minneapolis" Em wrote: extended forecast says: Partly cloudy, high of 40, low around 32, chance of precipitation 20%. Sounds pretty good, huh? :) Em - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos  Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:35:46 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke Erm, who is Patty Duke when she's at home?? Azeem, rather puzzled NPIMH: Dolly Parton - Here You Come Again, a superb performance I've been enjoying, having bought a Dolly compilation on Bob Muller's recommendation ;- - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lori Fye Sent: 24 January 2006 23:10 To: Patti Parlette Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke Then of course there's the "alternate" version of the theme song, all of which I can't remember right now, but the last verse is: Still, they're lesbians, Identical lesbians and you'll find, They laugh alike, they walk alike, At times they even fuck alike  You can lose your mind, When lesbians are two of a kind. ; ) Lori - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.22/238 - Release Date: 23/01/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.22/238 - Release Date: 23/01/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:37:29 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Joni at Wembley 83 dvd Vine Thanks to Richard Flynn for sending me this. Thanks also to Laurent Olszer for finding it. It is BBC In Concert 4/24/83, the quality is quite good, the Klein/Vinnie band. The deal is, it's a PAL format, so it won't play on a NSTC (ie american) dvd player, but should play on your computer with Media Player. The first 2 people to email me privately with a snailmail address and a promise to offer to members of the JMDL list will receive it as soon as I can burn it and mail it. All you need to do is make a copy for yourself and pass the _ORIGINAL DISC_ on to the next lucky person. It's a fabulous upgrade to whatever you had before. Obviously, you need to be able to burn DVDs to participate in this special offer! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:37:36 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Cathy's Post -- NJC > Someone we didn't know was here has decided to go. You don't miss what you never > knew you had. Ahh ... but Cathy hasn't unsu*bbed yet. I think she may have something to contribute sometime in the future. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:44:15 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: njc, Duke, then Patty Duke > Erm, who is Patty Duke when she's at home?? You mean Anna from Idaho? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:46:31 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: more proof Florida should be thrown out of the USA njc Oh my. What if you're in a non-platonic relationship but you never have sex? Is just kissing okay? Sheesh. Sorry Em, sorry Jerry, sorry Jimmy, sorry to anyone else who lives there ... but Florida HAS to go. ; ) Lori ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #28 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------