From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #27 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 027 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) [Lor] Re: Why is Joni so negative sometimes? [Box of Paints ] Ignorance [Cathy VE ] Re: Ignorance [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Whaaat? [Box of Paints ] Re: Ignorance [Lori Fye ] Off to Manhattan! njc [JRMCo1@aol.com] shitting on her fans [Robert Procyk ] Re: JoniMitchell.com [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: shitting on her fans [Lori Fye ] Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:08:54 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) > WUSS? ME??? ah sez hold on thayur boy, ah sez hold on!!! I Went out for > rides all through December in -6 and -7 with frost on the ground and had > the most amazing time... I love the cold weather. What I dont like is > sleet and rain.. and that is what is forecast. Fair enough, Lucy! But ... what the hell is a "tyre?" ; ) > You go and find Joni Lori... I think she would like you, you dont have > that "I bought your records you hag, therefore I own you" > mentality...... HOwever, be prepared for your casual "hi there, mind if > I join you?" turns into "hguhd kj apej mmapkds smmmml apmem > ma'pvamlml;m;lm " as your brain shrivels, your mouth dries up and your > tongue just flops around in your mouth. Joni will look for the nurse > that has clearly left you out in the community for a 10 min trial to > "see how you adjust" and pull her Uzi from its hiding place.......the > rest will be a song lyric for Emminemm and bring him out of his > retirement...It will be a little ditty called "FAN" LOL!!!!! I just can't decide now whether I should wear my JoniFest 2001 t-shirt, my "SIQUOMB, isn't she?" t-shirt, and/or my JM Internet Community denim shirt ... what do you think? Would it be too much for Joni to glance across the Daily Grill porch and see her own mug on my chest, or read the name of her old publishing company emblazoned there? Maybe I will take my collection of JoniFest guitar picks and string them as a necklace ... or wear two of them as earrings ... hmm ... the possibilities are endless ... ; ) > Love and hugs as always Lori... and still laughing from 2003. Me too, LuLu. Me too!!! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:40:11 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Why is Joni so negative sometimes? Hello Mary Katherine I'm not sure that Joni portrayal as a bitter and deriding other artists is entirely honest on the part of the publication. Time and time again Joni has complained (in radio interview) that her words are taken out of context after the interview was conducted, that the interviewer would pursue a line of questions that would say 'Oh Rickie Lee thinks you're so-and-so, Suzanne claims that you can't write blah blah blah etc etc...' until Joni snaps and gets impatient and snipes at the aforementioned artist i.e. 'Well SO AND SO has no talent, her only talent being surrounding herself with talented peope to make her look good' or words to that effect which have appeared in print.... I don't think that after running the gauntlet of beng interviewed (which is usually being stuck in a hotel room sitting down for an hour with someone asking you the same question as the last person, who asked you a range of questions as 'what's your favourite colour? Who did you vote for? What does Kilauren use to dye her hair? Have you ever considered that your music is no good?Is your favourite colour blue or turbulent indigo? do you like sushi) For hours on end and can be very degrading/demoralising, all because you have to promote your album and your agent/record company requires you to do so because you're too old to be on MTV or VH1 in a promo.... For me, after a while, you either get very savvy about interviews (and don't say anything, get a label as a recluse) or you get very honest about the music 'biz' (and while the interviewer is all smiles, you get the label as being bitter and biting the hand that feeds her. Read other interviews (like the Elvis Costello interview a few years ago and the mood s completely different... why? Because Elvis interviewed her... hear her on radio and the view is more honest because it's harder to edit out audio than it is to cut and paste transcription... So all these 'views' on Joni being difficult and spiteful I take with a pinch of salt... like a handful... Welcome to the list! Much Joni Jamie Zoob jonimitchell.com artwork archivist On 22/01/06, paintedpage@aol.com wrote: > hello, > > I'm pretty new to the list, and I've been reading a lot about Joni's > anger that she does not get enough recognition, and her "deriding" > other artists. Which other artists doesn't she like? Why is she so > negative? Was she always that way? I love a great deal of her music > (not all of it) but I don't know why she seems to be so angry. Unless > I'm misunderstanding something. > > Mary Katherine > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:40:36 +0000 From: "Barbara L" Subject: the "new" site Les, the site looks fab!!!! well done, barbara Little ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:50:07 -0800 (PST) From: Cathy VE Subject: Ignorance I recently registered to this site believing I could benefit somehow. Further, I expected to contribute something of value at some point. It never crossed my mind it would be like this. How naive is that!? I encounter too many ignorant conversations as it is. Some of you may know; the ones lacking wisdom, knowledge, logic, or experience needed to have intelligent, reasonable dialogue. I'm out. chatcat Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:09:59 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Ignorance I love when this happens, because it's so perplexing. Here is Cathy, who has never once posted to this list. Yet she has the audacity to complain about content and insult our membership. Nice! Whether you will have ever contributed anything of value to this list will never be known, chatcat. You certainly haven't today. Happy trails. - -Julius In a message dated 1/23/06 5:59:32 PM, cathyannve@yahoo.com writes: > I recently registered to this site believing I could benefit somehow. > Further, I expected to contribute something of value at some point. It > never crossed my mind it would be like this. How naive is that!? > I encounter too many ignorant conversations as it is. Some of you may > know; the ones lacking wisdom, knowledge, logic, or experience needed to > have intelligent, reasonable dialogue. I'm out. chatcat > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:42:16 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Whaaat? Hi Jim I just thought I'd send in my 2cents... To me it's another one of Joni's funny lines. We all know Picasso is a painter and I can imagine that Picasso is talking to Yvette, or to a friend as Yvette steps into the powder room, or even says the line to a friend while Yvette is there, shy, directly opposite Picasso in the circle of his companions at the table, a way of making his 'intentions' known. He would like to paint her, but after that, Picasso would like to indulge in his other passio, women. I dunno, that is the picture I see, to quote Rickie Lee Jones... Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 23/01/06, Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama wrote: > Joni said, > >"If I was a painter," > >Picasso said, > >"I'd paint this girl from toe to head." > > Em, what does that mean to you? > > Jim > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:16:14 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Ignorance This list has existed for about 8 1/2 years, and it has its cycles -- great, good, and not-so-good. If you just joined, this just happens to be "one of those times" that doesn't showcase its best. Give it another shot, Cathy. Lori, list member since 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:07:10 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Off to Manhattan! njc All the T's are dotted and the I's crossed for our JMDL Pre-Concert Reception in NY, I think. I've got to do some business travel and serious real work in the next week, so I'll be silent for the rest of the Countdown here on the list. Thanks for indulging me on my all-too-many and all-too-long posting binge here in the last month or so. Whew! We haven't had this much back and forth on the JMDL since the last U.S. Presidential elections and start of the Iraq war! The first person to bring up "Brokeback Mountain" to me in NY had better wait until I've had a martini or something...you've been forewarned. (joke). I'll be reachable by email and phone if I'm needed or if I can assist in anyway with anything NY. Bye! Thanks! - -Julius 415-505-1679 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:33:11 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: shitting on her fans Ok, not going to say anything about the tribute, but this is about one little "beef" I have with our Joan. This summer, as y'all know, was the Saskatchewan Centennial, and there was all this hoopla about the "Centennial Celebration". Of course, they wanted Joni to be a part of it, and they fought tooth and nail to get her to come and be a part of it. At first, they said she was a co-host for a day or two, but then it was just a big "she will be in attendance" thing and said they would pay tribute to her. So of course I buy 150 dollar tickets to the thing (300 dollars actually, as my sister, who went with me, hasn't ponied up with the money despite my hints and despite the fact she lives directly ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, but that's another discussion) and all along I am thinking I am crazy because Saskatchewan talent is usually pretty hokey. Anyway, it's this formal thing, and turns out my seats are like 6 rows or something from the stage, and the frigging Queen of Engl and is literally parallel to my row in the royal box and she is 9 seats away from me, so that was kind of funny. And, I have to say, the whole thing was very good, and I don't regret it, but we waited until the end for Joan, and everyone from Buffy St. Marie to Leslie Neilson are performing, and then the big moment - it was so disappointing, because these performers come out and sing snippets of her songs, and she comes out and like waves basically, and doesn't say sweet bugger all, and then the thing is over. At the time, just seeing her was cool, but now that I think of it, I was so pissed off, and so was everyone else, because the entire province went to such a big deal to pay tribute to her and she doesn't even say thanks or "I love Saskatchewan" or whatever. I mean, she's never performed here, and doesn't do sweet bugger all to even acknowledge this event. So that makes me disappointed. No, she doesn't owe anyone anything, but I mean, come on.... Ok, vent over. Back to fatherhood (daughter #3 was born Nov. 21 for those I haven't talked to for a while), Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:07:07 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com Apologies. The resolution for wallpapers should be 1024 X 768 pixels. Mark in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:28:29 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: shitting on her fans Oh for pete's sake ... I would feel lucky, I guess, if Joni could fly like a black crow and ACTUALLY shit on me. Being shit on by a bird is supposed to be good luck, ya know. Quit complaining and count your blessings that Joni's in the world at all ... that you've enjoyed her gifts for such a long time ... and remember that it's because of Joni that this cyberplace exists at all ... and because of Joni and because of this place, so many of us have found each other and such wonderful friendships. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:22:39 -0800 From: Subject: Joni Tribute - Dos Centavos Hi all, I've been away for awhile buried in work and life but have been keeping up a bit with the tribute plans. Joni or no Joni you all are surely going to have a spectacular time. The artists performing at the tribute are incredible (I think hearing Sedaka do a Joni cover is almost worth the price of admission alone....and Allison Krauss and Judy and Nelly ... geez!) Hell the Rockwood event alone sounds amazing to me. Anyway, I remember Julius excitedly telling me when we saw Joni at the Commonwealth last March that she had mentioned maybe performing one song at a future "childrens' benefit" so there was some reason for high hopes here. (I did wonder if she may be put off by the NYC smoking laws and was hoping someone like Mayor Bloomberg could give her special dispensation or something). I recently read an item here in a local magazine about a new hot spot that Joni is frequenting in L.A. so I think she is O.K. But here is the first thought that came to my mind when I heard she would not be attending the tribute - she has elderly parents in their 90s and she is the only child. Having been there myself I will tell you that it is pretty much impossible to plan ahead for *anything* especially travel. One is very much "on call" 24/7. It's something to consider. To all who are going - have a GREAT time, bring us back lots of stories and maybe some ahem recordings. Wish I could see you all there and look forward to hearding all about it. And hey, maybe she and Lori will decide to catch a red eye after the long lunch at the Grill - heehee. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #27 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------