From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #26 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, January 23 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 026 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shitting on her fans?! [frednow@aol.com] Re: Was Shitting/Now NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) [Luc] Re: Whaaat? [Em ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #23 ["MIKE HICKS" ] Re: the things you find on eBay [Jerry Notaro ] Re: the things you find on eBay [J Kendel Johnson ] Re: the things you find on eBay [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: the things you find on eBay [RoseMJoy@aol.com] COUNTDOWN [lcstanley7@aol.com] Re: Shitting on her fans? I don't think so ....NJC (really I suppose) [Je] Re: the things you find on eBay [Jerry Notaro ] Re: No Show [Susan Glumac ] Joni Poop! (smile) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #23 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: the things you find on eBay [Randy Remote ] Re: Whaaat? [roberto munguia ] Re: Can you PLEASE take the bickering to another forum??!! - NJC [Lori Fy] Re: the things you find on eBay ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: No Show [Lori Fye ] Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) [Lor] Re: www.jonimitchell.com , Les finished it [Lori Fye ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #23 - NJC [Lori Fye ] Canadian elections today, goddess help us, njc and pc but not that kind [] JoniMitchell.com ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Can you PLEASE take the bickering to another forum??!! - NJC [Cather] Re: No Show [Catherine McKay ] Re: JoniMitchell.com [Catherine McKay ] Carnegie Reception Live Music program [JRMCo1@aol.com] NJC Calling All Canadians NJC [mags h ] Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) [Luc] Who's "Nellie McKay"? [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: JoniMitchell.com [Melissa Gibbs ] NJC Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? [JRMCo1@aol.com] Carnegie: Full Disclosure [JRMCo1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:02:58 -0500 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans?! "mack watson-bush" - --Hmm. Without her fans she would not be Joni Mitchell, would she? She'd just be another lonely painter living who knows where. I don't get this attitude that performers are Gods that can do no wrong. Yes, she owes her fans. She owes them for the life that she lives, due to the money that they have provided her with to live that way. She owes them for giving her the adoration to make her, at least a little part of who she is, maybe a large part. These are not rich people, just little old folk trying to eke it out. Many have put out a lot to be there. Time, money, and heart. -------------- I have no such attitude that any performer is a god who can do no wrong. You may not have seen it yet, but in a subsequent post I mentioned that I actually agree with you that not all of Joni's music is of the same quality, although I went on to say that I wouldn't call it "crappy," just that some of it is below her own incredibly high standard. But I think that without her fans, Joni would still be Joni, and equally brilliant ... genius like that generally finds a way of expressing itself, no matter who's listening, or not. I agree that she should be grateful for the adulation and remuneration that have come her way, but that's very different than her owing her fans something. As both a fan and an artist myself, the way I read the contract is this: artist provides their best possible art, and the audience, if there is one, provides attention, and, hopefully, appreciation. Anything else -- for either party -- is gravy. -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:05:46 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Was Shitting/Now NJC Donna wrote: > My dear friends, > > It would be great if we could put an end to this thread which has become > an argument about nothing. - --You're right. Silly. My last words. That was my opinion and I wasn't the least bit interested in trying to convince anyone to agree with me. Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. love ya babe. mack > > Respectfully, > Donna (AKA the texas tush) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:32:24 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: RE: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) Hello all of you that have contributed to this debate......... OOOOOOooooh it has dragged me out of lurkdom... I just do not get the idea that Joni owes us anything. My view is that 1. OK, yes she made music which was put out there..on the commercial market to be bought or not..... but I dont think that was what she was/is about. Making the music was what she wanted. the rest of it, acclaim, fame, etc,. was a by- product of that industriousness. I feel that her music and her life have been a most public form of therapy for her demons..... 2. She cannot help it if her fan base includes people who assume that she owes them anything. No gun was put to your head to buy her albums (well not in the UK anyway). We each of us chose to buy what we did. I still remain in the "love the early years" category, when her music felt relevant to my life. Had I chosen, to remain a steadfast "fan", living, breathing, gaining some sort of life direction from my following of her throughout the decades, I would still think she owed me nothing. 3. The Carnegie event was only ever going to be a TRIBUTE... I have been to see T-Recstacy, Whole Lotta Led. Screaming Queens, Punk Floyd, and I knew they were TRIBUTES to the artist.. I have even seen the Bootleg Beatles, and (what remains of) the Searchers, the Swinging Blue Jeans, Gerry and the Pacemakers... and, not so long ago ( an unrecogniseable) The DRIFTERS...They were fun evenings but in a way sad, as you realise the old guy up in the front singing is not the 24 year old you swooned over all those years ago.... Perhaps JOni is sensitive about her relevance and would not want to disappoint..that is her prerogative, IF that is why se does not attend....Also, Why would Joni attend something being done as a Tribute to her?..That would seem rather smug and self-seeking of her and if there is one thing she has shunned it is the limelight. 4. I come from the idea set that there are artists who are purely that. Van Morrison is in there. Anyone who has been to a Van Concert will know that he barely acknowledges the audience and the reason he does not do that is that he performs for himself. I know someone who has worked with him extensively and his tours are for HIM. If you pay money and come to see him perform then do not expect to hear your favourites as he is just as likely to play a 40 minute jam session as he is to play "into the Mystic" or "Brown eyed Girl". He does not give a toss about what the audience thinks. I dont think Joni is like that particularly but I think she possibly feels that she did what she did, when she did it and that time is passed. I dont see her in the Liza Minelli freak show "OH MY GOD DID YOU SEE HER????" type of role... She is only a public persona in your own creation of your own imaginary relationship with her... (I actually dont have any imagination of a relationship with her) 5. I also wonder about whether she sees her songs as having modern day relevance and wishes to avoid feeling out of synch with the whole scene. 6. Also, would you fly to NY in February, to make a publ;ic appearance (which you hate) when you live in California where you are a private-ish person who can just enjoy the sun and do what you like best....... what ever that may be at any chosen time.......? I sure as hell would not. 7. But what I am sure about is that she does not SHIT on her fans. I think she probably made enough money years ago to never have to attend anything ever again. Why should she care what the paying public do with their money?. the Concert is not put on by HER management,,,,,,,,,, 8. The charity benefiting from this TRIBUTE is clever to pin itself to a fan base who (if they go through the website) they can see would be likely to support an event. Many of the tickets will be going to people who are going to see the various artists perform and the fact that it is Jonis music is neither here nor there for them. The corporate fundraising that will be going on alongside this is phenominal and I am glad that War Child or whoever will benefit. Many fans will miss out on tickets because there will have been block bookings by corporates to entertain visitors or potential clients and taking them to a Benefit/Tribute will allow them to show how caring they are, and its all tax decuctable too. Just because Joni supports War Child does not mean that she would support a corporate beanfeast for those whom she may consider to be the fat cat schmoozers. Good cause or not, these are not the people with whom she would seek to rub shoulders voluntarily (I assume). ANY WAY If I had the money to attend this event I would not be going to it for any other reason than to see my JMDL mates.It is great to hear her music too, and a good bonus. For me, attending Full Moon in 2003, and French Fest 2005 (why is it not in the website?) was about meeting more of the people I have come to think of as friends. CErtainly I like to see everyone perform but it is the laughter and discussion about all things (including Joni) that I would go for. DO not be disappointed that she won't be there. She is a woman of enigma and stubborn character. For that I admire her and if I saw her, out somewhere I would look at her and pass her by, leaving her in peace. Shitting on her fans? NAH, never in a million years, No way. If you think that she is, you need to review your relationship parameters. Here you are judging someone you have never met, who does not know you, and owes you nothing. YOU choose to follow her every footstep and nuance.. sounds a bit like stalking to me. Let the woman be. Pay your money, go to the concert, enjoy the music, meet your mates, have a meal and laugh, maybe sing a song or two with Paz and Co and then and hold the memory of those wonderful exchanges with you forever. That for me is what the JMDL has come to be.. a precious source of the best memories. Lucy, in England, looking up in to a very cold sky that means I wont be going out on my motorbike today, even though Frank has blasted off on his... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:57:59 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Whaaat? Puts Yvette in the real-deal class of Paris babes. I guess. Even Picasso himself could lust for her. And Pablo had WONDERFUL taste in women. Thats just a guess. I should re-listen when I get home; see if it seems to mean anything else. :) Em - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > Joni said, > >"If I was a painter," > >Picasso said, > >"I'd paint this girl from toe to head." > > Em, what does that mean to you? > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:27:59 -0500 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #23 >and the dreaded Duke Blue Devils >Duck Fuke Patti, Why all the hate of Duke? I'm a huge basketball fan. And, I know that watching it over the years that Coach K. runs the best program in college basketball and maybe all of sports. The reason? Discipline. Plain and simple. It's what has soured sports over the years and made professional sports nearly unbearable to watch. And, they will lose again. But, Coach K. gets the most out of his players. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:36:11 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay I hope Les can convince the JoniMitchell.com people to purchase and archive this. It certainly worth $199.00! Jerry > any takers? > _http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQi > temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ > (http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQi > temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ6 > 3821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:48:45 -0800 (PST) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay I suppose maybe he/they did, as the link takes you to an eBay notice that the item has been removed. The "16mm" in the link makes me think it was a film. Is that correct? J Jerry Notaro wrote: I hope Les can convince the JoniMitchell.com people to purchase and archive this. It certainly worth $199.00! Jerry > any takers? > _http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQi > temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ > (http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQi > temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ6 > 3821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:04:33 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay oh, and you may have some other bidders out there wanting it.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:21:15 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay yes, it was a film ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:37:12 -0500 From: lcstanley7@aol.com Subject: COUNTDOWN 10 DAYS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:38:05 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans? I don't think so ....NJC (really I suppose) My Queen of Everything, Lucy, has put it all so well, just as all Queens are supposed to do. The main reason for the event is to raise money for a very worthy cause, to which Joni has lent her name and reputation. No where was there a promise of Joni appearing, attending, much less performing. Go, have a great time, and make sure to give us lots of reports. And if this doesn't get recorded, someone's going to die! Jerry > Hello all of you that have contributed to this debate......... > OOOOOOooooh it has dragged me out of lurkdom... > > I just do not get the idea that Joni owes us anything. > > My view is that > 1. OK, yes she made music which was put out there..on the commercial > market to be bought or not..... but I dont think that was what she > was/is about. Making the music was what she wanted. the rest of it, > acclaim, fame, etc,. was a by- product of that industriousness. I feel > that her music and her life have been a most public form of therapy for > her demons..... > > 2. She cannot help it if her fan base includes people who assume that > she owes them anything. No gun was put to your head to buy her albums > (well not in the UK anyway). We each of us chose to buy what we did. I > still remain in the "love the early years" category, when her music felt > relevant to my life. Had I chosen, to remain a steadfast "fan", living, > breathing, gaining some sort of life direction from my following of her > throughout the decades, I would still think she owed me nothing. > 3. The Carnegie event was only ever going to be a TRIBUTE... I have > been to see T-Recstacy, Whole Lotta Led. Screaming Queens, Punk Floyd, > and I knew they were TRIBUTES to the artist.. I have even seen the > Bootleg Beatles, and (what remains of) the Searchers, the Swinging Blue > Jeans, Gerry and the Pacemakers... and, not so long ago ( an > unrecogniseable) The DRIFTERS...They were fun evenings but in a way sad, > as you realise the old guy up in the front singing is not the 24 year > old you swooned over all those years ago.... Perhaps JOni is sensitive > about her relevance and would not want to disappoint..that is her > prerogative, IF that is why se does not attend....Also, Why would Joni > attend something being done as a Tribute to her?..That would seem rather > smug and self-seeking of her and if there is one thing she has shunned > it is the limelight. > 4. I come from the idea set that there are artists who are purely > that. Van Morrison is in there. Anyone who has been to a Van Concert > will know that he barely acknowledges the audience and the reason he > does not do that is that he performs for himself. I know someone who has > worked with him extensively and his tours are for HIM. If you pay money > and come to see him perform then do not expect to hear your favourites > as he is just as likely to play a 40 minute jam session as he is to play > "into the Mystic" or "Brown eyed Girl". He does not give a toss about > what the audience thinks. I dont think Joni is like that particularly > but I think she possibly feels that she did what she did, when she did > it and that time is passed. I dont see her in the Liza Minelli freak > show "OH MY GOD DID YOU SEE HER????" type of role... She is only a > public persona in your own creation of your own imaginary relationship > with her... (I actually dont have any imagination of a relationship with > her) > > 5. I also wonder about whether she sees her songs as having modern day > relevance and wishes to avoid feeling out of synch with the whole scene. > > 6. Also, would you fly to NY in February, to make a publ;ic appearance > (which you hate) when you live in California where you are a private-ish > person who can just enjoy the sun and do what you like best....... what > ever that may be at any chosen time.......? I sure as hell would not. > > 7. But what I am sure about is that she does not SHIT on her fans. I > think she probably made enough money years ago to never have to attend > anything ever again. > Why should she care what the paying public do with their money?. the > Concert is not put on by HER management,,,,,,,,,, > > 8. The charity benefiting from this TRIBUTE is clever to pin itself > to a fan base who (if they go through the website) they can see would be > likely to support an event. Many of the tickets will be going to people > who are going to see the various artists perform and the fact that it is > Jonis music is neither here nor there for them. > > The corporate fundraising that will be going on alongside this is > phenominal and I am glad that War Child or whoever will benefit. Many > fans will miss out on tickets because there will have been block > bookings by corporates to entertain visitors or potential clients and > taking them to a Benefit/Tribute will allow them to show how caring they > are, and its all tax decuctable too. > > Just because Joni supports War Child does not mean that she would > support a corporate beanfeast for those whom she may consider to be the > fat cat schmoozers. Good cause or not, these are not the people with > whom she would seek to rub shoulders voluntarily (I assume). > > ANY WAY > If I had the money to attend this event I would not be going to it for > any other reason than to see my JMDL mates.It is great to hear her music > too, and a good bonus. For me, attending Full Moon in 2003, and French > Fest 2005 (why is it not in the website?) was about meeting more of the > people I have come to think of as friends. CErtainly I like to see > everyone perform but it is the laughter and discussion about all things > (including Joni) that I would go for. > > DO not be disappointed that she won't be there. She is a woman of enigma > and stubborn character. For that I admire her and if I saw her, out > somewhere I would look at her and pass her by, leaving her in peace. > > Shitting on her fans? NAH, never in a million years, No way. If you > think that she is, you need to review your relationship parameters. > Here you are judging someone you have never met, who does not know you, > and owes you nothing. YOU choose to follow her every footstep and > nuance.. sounds a bit like stalking to me. > > Let the woman be. Pay your money, go to the concert, enjoy the music, > meet your mates, have a meal and laugh, maybe sing a song or two with > Paz and Co and then and hold the memory of those wonderful exchanges > with you forever. > > That for me is what the JMDL has come to be.. a precious source of the > best memories. > > Lucy, in England, looking up in to a very cold sky that means I wont be > going out on my motorbike today, even though Frank has blasted off on his... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:44:26 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay It is still there. It was the way the link was posted that got you that message. Click on http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ itemZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And you will find it. Jerry > I suppose maybe he/they did, as the link takes you to an eBay notice that the > item has been removed. > > The "16mm" in the link makes me think it was a film. Is that correct? > > J > > Jerry Notaro wrote: > I hope Les can convince the JoniMitchell.com people to purchase and archive > this. It certainly worth $199.00! > > Jerry > >> any takers? >> _http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ>> i >> temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ >> (http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ>> i >> temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ6 >> 3821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:29:19 -0800 From: Susan Glumac Subject: Re: No Show As for my expectations: I wrote Michael Dorf before purchasing the tickets and asked one question. "Is Joni going to be there?" He wrote back one line - "Yes, she's planning on attending". I would not have purchased VIP tixs, airline, hotel and taken time off if I hadn't been told she would be there. I can't imagine he would lie to sell me tickets - so something must have happened. sue > From: onlyJMDL Digest > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:00:08 -0500 (EST) > To: > Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #23 > > ========== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:30:53 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Joni Poop! (smile) I have always loved the freedom we give each other to speak our minds about whatever we feel. Mack shared his thoughtsand they didn't offend me in the least because that's what we do here. We talk about what we really feel good, bad, or ugly. In my opinion, Mack is following Joni's lead by sharing his feelings because Joni has done the very same thing in regard to not being appreciated. Whether you agree or disagree, isn't this what being on the Joni list is all about? I really wanted to see her at least once in the flesh but I probably would have passed out anyway if it had happened! (Ha! Ha!) Seriously, I don't know what coulda-woulda-shoulda happened here but Mack is being honest and that in my opinion should always be honored here. I stand by everyone's right to say what they feel here pro or con. It's the spirit of the list. On another Joni note, I watched part of a special on Amelia Earhart and had a chance to hear some of her writings recited...I was amazed at her skills! I can see how Joni would have been taken enough by her to pen a song after her. Listening to her and listening to Amelia's writings, I can really feel a kinship between them. Amelia makes perfect sense to me now how Joni speaks to Amelia. I feel they could have been sisters in another place and time. Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:34:23 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #23 The new web site is absolutely fantastic. What a nice job. A great place to escape to while the digest bickering (chicken squawking!) plays out. To all the folks lucky enough to make Carnegie Hall - enjoy every moment. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:13:33 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay The link is not being reproduced fully because it is so long, but you can just search "joni big sur" on ebay to view it. This is a 16mm film on three reels, and while it is true as stated that it is not available on dvd/vhs, it has been shown many times on cable. I doubt that an amateur could transfer this to digital and get a better copy than what's already around. > It is still there. It was the way the link was posted that got you that > message. Click on > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ > itemZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > And you will find it. > > Jerry > >> I suppose maybe he/they did, as the link takes you to an eBay notice that >> the >> item has been removed. >> >> The "16mm" in the link makes me think it was a film. Is that correct? >> >> J >> >> Jerry Notaro wrote: >> I hope Les can convince the JoniMitchell.com people to purchase and >> archive >> this. It certainly worth $199.00! >> >> Jerry >> >>> any takers? >>> > _http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ>> > i >>> temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ63821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ >>> > (http://cgi.ebay.com/Celebration-at-Big-Sur-1971-CSNY-Joni-Mitchell-16mm_W0QQ>> > i >>> temZ6475632418QQcategoryZ6 >>> 3821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:35:59 -0600 From: roberto munguia Subject: Re: Whaaat? Look up Picasso's cubist paintings of a girl named Jacquette circa 1945-55(??). A beautiful girl with a long neck and ponytail. When I first heard Yvette I thought Joni may have been referring to these works. NPIMH: Kraftwerk, Radioactivity Roberto www.robertomunguia.net On 1/23/06, Em wrote: > > Puts Yvette in the real-deal class of Paris babes. I guess. > Even Picasso himself could lust for her. And Pablo had WONDERFUL taste > in women. > Thats just a guess. > I should re-listen when I get home; see if it seems to mean anything > else. > :) > Em > > --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > > > Joni said, > > >"If I was a painter," > > >Picasso said, > > >"I'd paint this girl from toe to head." > > > > Em, what does that mean to you? > > > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:25:30 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Can you PLEASE take the bickering to another forum??!! - NJC Wes wisely suggested: > Please consider starting an alternate forum such as: > > www.jmisslsbl.com - The Joni Mitchell Isn't Showing, So Let's > Start Bickering List > > or > > www.iljmbhydd.com - The I Love Joni Mitchell But Hope You Drop Dead List Don't forget the Yahoo group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pissnmoan I started it a long time ago but let it expire. It's been resurrected just so everyone can ... piss and moan!! ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:28:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: the things you find on eBay Randy Remote wrote: > The link is not being reproduced fully because it is so long, but you can > just search "joni big sur" on ebay to view it. Or cut and paste the address :) Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:19:07 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: No Show sue wrote: > I can't imagine he would lie to sell me tickets - so something must have happened. Really? You can't imagine that? I can totally imagine it, because weirder things have happened to me with regard to tickets. Hey, maybe Joni will blow off lunch with me and attend the show on Feb 1. It's entirely possible. If she doesn't show up in NYC, though, don''t be disgruntled. ENJOY THE SHOW!! There are some stellar performers who will be showing their admiration for Joni and her work. Enjoy them, and enjoy each other's company. Lori, who would be there if I could justify the travel expense (moving to the Bay Area has pretty much exhausted my piggy bank) ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:02:46 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) > YOU choose to follow her every footstep and nuance.. sounds a bit like stalking to me. Yep. Every so often I even FEEL a bit like a stalker when I try to mention the JMDL (now www.jonimitchell.com) to someone new and they look at me like I'm some sort of lunatic. I joke about having lunch with Joni on Feb 1 ... I will probably ride my motorcycle down to LA on the next 3-day weekend and visit the Daily Grill, just for the hell of it. But you know what? If Joni should show up there, there's no way I'm going to interrupt her meal. I'd just like to be "that close" to her, maybe catch her glance once. Otoh, if she invites me to her table (as she did Kakki and Stephen some years ago), then yes of course I'll join her and probably fight with her over the check, too. ; ) > Lucy, in England, looking up in to a very cold sky that means I wont be going out on my > motorbike today, even though Frank has blasted off on his... LuLu, are you familiar with the American slang term "wuss"? ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:48:50 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: www.jonimitchell.com , Les finished it It's gorgeous!!!! Thanks to Les and to everyone else who helped to make www.jonimitchell.com something that Joni will surely be proud of. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:51:43 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #23 - NJC Mike Hicks wondered: > Patti, > Why all the hate of Duke? Why is anyone picking on Patty Duke? She was my third crush!! (First was a girl nicknamed "Shorty" on the 1960s Cleveland area program, "The Gene Carroll Show." Second was Judy Garland.) With a wink and a smile, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:36:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Canadian elections today, goddess help us, njc and pc but not that kind We're voting today (what? so soon? yeah) and who knows what we could end up with. Here's Michael Moore's view: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=192 Friday, January 20th, 2006 Michael Moore Statement on Canadian Election Michael Moore is currently in production on his next movie. As an avid lover of all things Canadian, he has issued the following statement regarding Canada's upcoming election on Monday: Oh, Canada -- you're not really going to elect a Conservative majority on Monday, are you? That's a joke, right? I know you have a great sense of humor, and certainly a well-developed sense of irony, but this is no longer funny. Maybe it's a new form of Canadian irony -- reverse irony! OK, now I get it. First, you have the courage to stand against the war in Iraq -- and then you elect a prime minister who's for it. You declare gay people have equal rights -- and then you elect a man who says they don't. You give your native peoples their own autonomy and their own territory -- and then you vote for a man who wants to cut aid to these poorest of your citizens. Wow, that is intense! Only Canadians could pull off a hat trick of humor like that. My hat's off to you. Far be it from me, as an American, to suggest what you should do. You already have too many Americans telling you what to do. Well, actually, you've got just one American who keeps telling you to roll over and fetch and sit. I hope you don't feel this appeal of mine is too intrusive but I just couldn't sit by, as your friend, and say nothing. Yes, I agree, the Liberals have some 'splainin' to do. And yes, one party in power for more than a decade gets a little... long. But you have a parliamentary system (I'll bet you didn't know that -- see, that's why you need Americans telling you things!). There are ways at the polls to have your voices heard other than throwing the baby out with the bath water. These are no ordinary times, and as you go to the polls on Monday, you do so while a man running the nation to the south of you is hoping you can lend him a hand by picking Stephen Harper because he's a man who shares his world view. Do you want to help George Bush by turning Canada into his latest conquest? Is that how you want millions of us down here to see you from now on? The next notch in the cowboy belt? C'mon, where's your Canadian pride? I mean, if you're going to reduce Canada to a cheap download of Bush & Co., then at least don't surrender so easily. Can't you wait until he threatens to bomb Regina? Make him work for it, for Pete's sake. But seriously, I know you're not going to elect a guy who should really be running for governor of Utah. Whew! I knew it! You almost had me there. Very funny. Don't do that again. God, I love you, you crazy cold wonderful neighbors to my north. Don't ever change. Michael Moore (Mr. Moore is not available for interviews because he now needs to address the situation in Azerbaijan. But he could be talked into it for a couple of tickets to a Leaf's game.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:59:36 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: JoniMitchell.com Thanks for all the compliments on the new JoniMitchell.com. Many key people to thank for help in the transition; among them Raffaele Malanga, Jamie Zubairi, Mark-Leon Thorne, Bryan Taulbee and a host of others. It was a tough decision to merge the two sites, but I think it makes sense that we now have a one-stop site for all things Joni and allows me to focus energies into one place. The move has caused a few bugs that I'm currently working through, if you notice any feel free to point them out to me. Two things in particular about the new site I'd like to point out: 1) A vastly improved search engine (over the jmdl.com function) indexes nearly every word on the site, making an incredible mountain of info readily accessible. 2) The new on-line discussion forum provides an avenue for discussion for those who may not like the email format. And, as always, special thanks to Jim Johanson, Simon Montgomery, and Mr Wally Breese. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:41:21 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Can you PLEASE take the bickering to another forum??!! - NJC - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Wes wisely suggested: > > > Please consider starting an alternate forum such > as: > > > > www.jmisslsbl.com - The Joni Mitchell Isn't > Showing, So Let's > > Start Bickering List > > > > or > > > > www.iljmbhydd.com - The I Love Joni Mitchell But > Hope You Drop Dead List > > Don't forget the Yahoo group, > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pissnmoan I > started it a long time ago but let it expire. It's > been resurrected just so > everyone can ... piss and moan!! > > ; ) > > Lori Last chance to piss and moan? Joni: They bicker on the rifle range Blame takes aim Last chance Last chance lost on the new and improved jonimitchell.com http://www.jonimitchell.com/results_text.cfm?from=lyrics Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:56:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: No Show - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Hey, maybe Joni will blow off lunch with me and > attend the show on Feb 1. > It's entirely possible. [...] > Lori, > who would be there if I could justify the travel > expense (moving to the Bay > Area has pretty much exhausted my piggy bank) > Lunch with Joni is definitely cheaper. Who's buyin'? ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:00:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com - --- Les Irvin wrote: > It was a tough decision to merge the two sites, but > I think it makes sense > that we now have a one-stop site for all things Joni > and allows me to focus > energies into one place. > A tough decision but one whose time had come. Congratulations and thank you, Les, and all those who have worked to make this a reality. I find the whole thing much easier on the eye (and brain) and goodness knows, I need all the help I can get in those departments. Bugs and glitches are not unexpected with such a massive undertaking and will be ironed out when they will. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:23:16 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Carnegie Reception Live Music program Hello JMDLers: I trust you who are going are beginning to get completely psyched about our big NYC Jonifest! I am! And I know Kay is stoked about the Rockwood "Night in the City," as am I and Paz. We're counting on your support in the Big Apple, attendees. I've been in touch with the people at Carnegie Hall today re: our Pre-Concert reception music program. As it turns out, it is not cost effective to have an *amplified* music program at Citigroup Cafe, as I had envisioned Yeah. I know: "Boo. Totally boo!" But tell ya what we're gonna do! We're going to take a "song circle" approach to the event, a la Jonifest. I will bring my Guild JF-30 (jumbo) guitar, or there will a good-quality guitar provided, for use by those of us who would like to perform, unamplified or a cappella. How does that sound? The original reception performers announced will also still perform, albeit "unplugged." Please contact me or Michael Paz if you'd like to get a slot in the hour between 6-7. You can then say, in all honesty: "I played Carnegie Hall. 'Practice, practice, practice my ass.'" Or something to that effect. I may even launch my musical career there that night! ( I know: "Boo! Totally boo. :-) Seriously though. This is reception is going to be very, very special for the JMDL, folks. That I can promise. The Citigroup Cafe is absolutely gorgeous and a stunning venue for our pre-concert affair, according my reliable sources in NYC (I've never been to Carnegie Hall). And this Tribute Concert will rock! Look at the performers and expect the best music this planet has to offer. So lets face it, friends, the torch has been passed to a new generation of musician --born after the 60s, tempered by war, disciplined by a fragile and bitter peace, proud of Joni Mitchell's musical heritage--and unwilling to permit the slow undoing of those high musical standards to which she has always been committed, and to which we of the JMDL are committed (aren't we?). :-) So email me and cc: Michael (michael@thepazgroup.com) with your intent to play and what song(s) so's we can manage redundancy. Thanks! Night in the City looks pretty to me...Night in the City looks fine! - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:06:49 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: NJC Calling All Canadians NJC in a word................ VOTE...... peace out, Mags. let us go then you and i ~t.s.eliot~ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:33:45 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans? I dont think so ....NJC (really I suppose) WUSS? ME??? ah sez hold on thayur boy, ah sez hold on!!! I Went out for rides all through December in -6 and -7 with frost on the ground and had the most amazing time... I love the cold weather. What I dont like is sleet and rain.. and that is what is forecast. I have ridden in both and if I have to I will, but not out of preference... Actually its good I did not go as I disovered the front tyre had a gouge in the wall and so got the tyre replaced instead...ACtually Frank took the wheel off and did that for me... You go and find Joni Lori... I think she would like you, you dont have that "I bought your records you hag, therefore I own you" mentality...... HOwever, be prepared for your casual "hi there, mind if I join you?" turns into "hguhd kj apej mmapkds smmmml apmem ma'pvamlml;m;lm " as your brain shrivels, your mouth dries up and your tongue just flops around in your mouth. Joni will look for the nurse that has clearly left you out in the community for a 10 min trial to "see how you adjust" and pull her Uzi from its hiding place.......the rest will be a song lyric for Emminemm and bring him out of his retirement...It will be a little ditty called "FAN" When we met up backstage with James Taylor in Lonodn in 1986 my (now) ex was so overcome with awe at him sitting down with us and chatting to Sue (Vicars) and Rabbit (Bundry) and generally being really nice that all Nick could manage was a sort of fat tounged "fnnnnnneuuh" when James asked us about our selves. Lee Sklar was greeted equally strangely but it was an amazing thing and totally unexpected. James and Pete ASher had lived at Sue and her then husband Mikes' house when James came out of re-hab. According to her he wrote Fire and Rain siltting on the back porch of their house. It would bear out to be fairly true and he certainly greeted Sue like a lost prize returned....... Amazing..... Love and hugs as always Lori... and still laughing from 2003. Lori Fye wrote: > > YOU choose to follow her every footstep and nuance.. sounds a bit > like stalking to me. > > Yep. Every so often I even FEEL a bit like a stalker when I try to > mention the JMDL (now www.jonimitchell.com > ) to someone new and they look at me like > I'm some sort of lunatic. > > I joke about having lunch with Joni on Feb 1 ... I will probably ride > my motorcycle down to LA on the next 3-day weekend and visit the Daily > Grill, just for the hell of it. But you know what? If Joni should > show up there, there's no way I'm going to interrupt her meal. I'd > just like to be "that close" to her, maybe catch her glance once. > Otoh, if she invites me to her table (as she did Kakki and Stephen > some years ago), then yes of course I'll join her and probably fight > with her over the check, too. ; ) > > > Lucy, in England, looking up in to a very cold sky that means I wont > be going out on my > > motorbike today, even though Frank has blasted off on his... > > LuLu, are you familiar with the American slang term "wuss"? ; ) > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:53:39 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Who's "Nellie McKay"? She's been added to the list of performers for the Carnegie Hall Music Tribute to Joni. And the site still dares to promise "others to be announced," even at this juncture! Crazy man! Crazy. But I like it. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? That is a GREAT addition. All you lucky people. Jerry JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > She's been added to the list of performers for the Carnegie Hall Music > Tribute to Joni. And the site still dares to promise "others to be > announced," > even at this juncture! Crazy man! Crazy. But I like it. > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:14:23 +1100 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com I can only echo the praise expressed by others about the new website. It's fantastic. A big congratulations to my compatriot Mark-Leon Thorne on having such a prominent and appropriate place to display his beautiful Joni wallpapers. Makes me proud to be a fellow Aussie (at a time when there hasn't been a lot to be proud of). Of course, congratulations also to everyone involved in creating the site. Melissa in Sydney NP - Ain't No More Cane (Dylan and The Band from The Basement Tapes) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:41:21 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? Are you kidding, J? She's one of the most promising singer-songwriters out there; funny & cynical and ballsy enough to split with Columbia on the release of her sophomore effort because they wanted to trim it from 23 to 16 tracks and reached an impasse. Anyway, maybe you already knew and were just pulling my leg - I'm real gullible. In any event, that is SMOKIN' good news, almost makes me forget about Ben Folds no longer being there. Bob NP: Yuki Murakama, "Both Sides Now" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:44:16 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Who's "Nellie McKay"? scjoniguy@yahoo.com writes: > >Anyway, maybe you already knew and were just pulling my leg - I'm real > gullible. > ;-) - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:01:44 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Carnegie: Full Disclosure Hi peeps. In the spirit of full disclosure, I thought I'd share all my email communications with Carnegie Hall re: Pre-concert reception. Enjoy. - -Julius - ------ Should we pay the $400?B Please advise. - -JuliusSubj: FW: 2.1.06 Pre concert receptionB Date: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:17:35 AM From: msb1@carnegiehall.org To: JRayMills@aol.com cc: msb1@carnegiehall.org, EHamel@RestaurantAssociates.com Hello, B Our stagehands can set up a small amp and vocal mic (mic on a stand), but you will need to provide the amp. B Webll need to know when itbs coming, so that the stagehands can receive it at the stage door. B They will receive it, set it up, and strike it. B The stage door is located at 161 West 56th Street.B We can use one of Carnegie Hallbs vocal mics, so you would not need to supply that. B The cost for doing this is $404. B It sounds like a lot, and it is, but we work within a very strict contract with our stagehands. B Please let me know as soon as possible if you would like to move forward with the small amp and vocal mic.B B Thanks much, B Mary Sarah B From: JRayMills@aol.com [mailto:JRayMills@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:05 AM To: Baker, Mary Sarah Subject: Re: 2.1.06 Pre concert reception B Mary Sarah: Thank you for your response.B I do hope your recovery from surgery is pro ceeding swiftly and that you're feeling well today. I completely understand the points you make below re: audio at the Cafe.B Let me assure you that our plans for the evening of Feb. 1 are quite simple.B I have been planning for an acoustic music performance of about 30 minutes duration, beginning at about 6:15 and ending at approximately 6:45.B To facilitate this optimally, we would only need a very basic setup of a small amplifier to plug a guitar into and a rudimentary microphone setup.B However, we could forego that and simply have the 4 or 5 songs performed sans amplification, as you suggest.B That would work.B I am prepared to pay whatever costs an amp setup might incur (within reason), but I certainly don't want to burden your staff, nor do I want you to rethink the rental fee waiver. (smile) Please be assured that we will most certainly conclude any our activities in advance of 7:00 when your concert-going guests arrive.B I have attached a copy of the invitation to our event here, Mary Sarah.B As you can see, our plans are simple, but we are endeavoring to exude some of the grandeur and formality commensurate with your fabulous facility. Mary Sarah, I will proceed with plans for our little music program on an "unplugged" basis.B However, if you see any way we could provide for some minimal amplification, that would be super.B Thank you!B Best of luck to you. - -Julius In a message dated 1/23/06 5:31:42 AM, msb1@carnegiehall.org writes: Good morning, I am in and out over the next few weeks, as my surgery was a bit more extensive than previously planned.B I should be in the office today between 11:00 am and 5:00 pm, but that is subject to change. Anyway, we are happy that you are using the Cafe on February 1.B However, my understanding was that this was a cash bar from 6:00-7:00 pm and that it would be a casual gathering place for your guests.B That is why Carnegie Hall waived the room rental fee.B Now that I hear that this requires audio components, it sounds more like a special event.B The stagehand labor required for any audio setup will be expensive, and we cannot have any of your equipment in the Cafe once the general public arrives at 7:00 pm.B My strong advice, so that we can keep your costs down as much as possible, is to have someone on your end play the acoustic guitar (no plug in, no amp) from 6:00-7:00 pm.B Anything beyond that will incur significant costs, and it will also force us to rethink the room rental waiver.B Kind regards, Mary Sarah ________________________________ From: JRayMills@aol.com [mailto:JRayMills@aol.com] Sent: Mon 1/23/2006 5:15 AM To: EHamel@RestaurantAssociates.com Cc: Baker, Mary Sarah Subject: Re: 2.1.06 Pre concert reception Good morning, Emily.B Welcome back, Ms. Baker.B I trust you both had pleasant weekends. May I please have a telephone number and a name of a member of your staff with whom I can discuss audio needs for our event on February 1?B A time to reach this person also, please, if possible.B I'd like to speak to someone today to ensure time for me to prepare entertainment plans before event day.B If someone can call me in this regard, please reach me on my cell phone at 415-505-1679 anytime. Ms. Baker, I put a check in the mail to your attention on Friday for all house fees due Carnegie Hall for this event. Thank you.B Have a nice day! Regards, Julius Mills 415-505-1679 In a message dated 1/18/06 11:22:40 AM, JRayMills writes: B B Thank you very much, Emily. B B B B I will fill out the credit card form and return to you, and will send the check to Mary Sarah, in the next couple of days. B B B B By Jan. 23rd is plenty of time to work out our entertainment needs with Carnegie.B Thanks.B I'll contact Ms. Baker re: that when she returns. B B B B Best regards, B B Julius B B B B B B In a message dated 1/18/06 10:43:12 AM, EHamel@RestaurantAssociates.com writes: B B B B B B B B B B Good Afternoon Julius - B B B B We are so pleased you will be moving forward with the event.B Part of the $482.50 will get paid to me, at Restaurant Associates. That fee is for the bartender @ $157.50 and I have attached a credit card authorization form for you to fill out and fax back to me.B I will need that prior to the party on the 1st.B B Carnegie Hall will receive the remaining balance for the security guard and usher.B Carnegie does not accept credit cards so the fee must be paid via check. B B B B Please send that payment to: B B Mary Sarah Baker B B Carnegie Hall B B 881 Seventh Ave B B NY, NY 10019 B B B B Regarding any additional food you may order.B I would need to know by the 27th what you wanted in order to get it in and prep the food for your event.B As far as entertainment.B There is not a piano in the room but you could bring in an acoustic guitar.B If he needs any sort of set up such as a microphone that would incur stagehand fees.B Mary Sarah Baker is the best one to address these questions regarding the music set up.B She is on leave until Monday the 23rd.B Is that too late for you to have an answer?B Please advise. B B B B Thank you! B B Emily B B B B Emily Hamel B B Director of Catering B B Restaurant Associates at Carnegie Hall B B 881 7th Avenue, Suite 142 B B New York, NY 10606 B B t.B 212.903.9647 B B f.B 212.757.2402 B B e.B ehamel@restaurantassociates.com < mailto:ehamel@restaurantassociates.com> B B B B www.restaurantassociates.com B B B B B B B B B B B B From: JRayMills@aol.com [mailto:JRayMills@aol.com] B B Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:13 AM B B To: Hamel, Emily B B Cc: msb1@carnegiehall.org B B Subject: Re: 2.1.06 Pre concert reception B B B B B B Emily, B B B B Thank you and the kind folks at Carnegie Hall folks for your Pre-concert Reception proposal for my group's private event on Feb 1, 2006 at the Citigroup Cafe.B That, of course, is the evening of the Joni Mitchell Tribute Concert in Carnegie Hall's Stern Auditorium. B B B B I'm pleased to accept Option 1.) of your proposal!B Please proceed with arrangements for our private event from 6:00 to 7:00 in the Citigroup Cafe as you outlined below.B B We appreciate the invitation to continue enjoying the space once the doors open to general concert-goers.B We will of course yield space and extend every courtesy to your other valued guests in the Cafe as they arrive at 7:00.B Thank you for that thoughtful consideration. B B B B I will personally make advance payment for the house fees totaling $482.50 by Monday, January 23, 2006.B If you need advance payment sooner, or a deposit of some sort, please let me know and I will gladly provide same. B B B B I would like to use a Cash Bar arrangement for the all food and drinks for the event, Emily, if that's okay.B There is a chance that I'll want to order a few catering items, please let me know what deadline I need to be aware for such an order.B I may want to pre-order champagne as well, but will similarly let you know. B B B B Is there by chance a piano in the Cafe we could use during the hour, Emily?B Or, would it be possible and/or appropriate to have a brief, quiet acoustic guitar performance in the Cafe during the hour.B Not essential, but would be nice, if possible.B Our musicians would be world-class in proficiency.B Please advise. B B B B Thank you so much for your helpfulness, professionalism and prompt response, Emily.B We're looking forward to a wonderful evening for the Joni Mitchell Discussion List (JMDL) at Carnegie Hall! B B B B Best Regards, B B Julius Mills B B For JMDL.com B B B B My personal address and information: B B B B Julius Mills B B 36 Park Ridge Road B B San Rafael, CA 94903 B B jraymills@aol.com B B cell: 415-505-1679 B B B B In a message dated 1/17/06 11:06:56 AM, EHamel@RestaurantAssociates.com writes: B B B B B B B B B B B B Julius - B B B B After some discussions here amongst the Carnegie Hall folks we have come up with. B B B B B B B 1.B B B Your group may have the Citigroup CafC) as a private event space from 6:00pm - 7:00pm.B Your guests would enter through the 154 West 57th Street entrance and walk straight ahead in to the CafC).B At 7:00pm the space would open to the general public but your group could stay and enjoy the space along with others coming in.B The cafC) does connect directly into Stern Auditorium so it would be very easy to move to the concert space for the 8:00pm show time.B We could do a cash bar for your group or bar on consumption which we could charge to a credit card of your choice. We could also provide any food or beverage you may need.B I have attached a basic menu package for review.B The only house fees to have this space is $250 for a security guard, $75.00 for an usher to tear your guests tickets and $157.50 for the bartender. Carnegie Hall has waived the $780.00 room rental fee for this space for your group. B B B B B B B B B B B 1.B B B Your group can come at 7:00pm and congregate in one area but it would not be private and would be open to the general public at that time as well.B Cash bar would be available.B We would not be able to provide food for your group at this time.B No additional fees would apply and your guests would enter through the main entrance for Stern Auditorium and then go to the Citigroup CafC) from there. B B B B B B B B Please let me know what you are thinking of doing! B B Emily B B B B B B Emily Hamel B B Director of Catering B B Restaurant Associates at Carnegie Hall B B 881 7th Avenue, Suite 142 B B New York, NY 10606 B B t.B 212.903.9647 B B f.B 212.757.2402 B B e.B ehamel@restaurantassociates.com < mailto:ehamel@restaurantassociates.com> B B B B www.restaurantassociates.com B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (rly-yh03.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.67]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (v108_r1_b1.2) with ESMTP id MAILINYH14-2b543d51da516c; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:17:33 -0500 Received: from vivaldi.corp.carnegiehall.org (stage2.carnegiehall.org [207.198.239.9]) by rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (v108_r1_b1.2) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH33-2b543d51da516c; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:17:09 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62049.76EF56DB" Subject: FW: 2.1.06 Pre concert reception Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: < 662D17383D87E4429BCE3C5C0384E7770195253A@vivaldi.corp.carnegiehall.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 2.1.06 Pre concert reception Thread-Index: AcYgNvsTbXWIj3fMTcqrIDaq9LTpUgAEi1oA From: "Baker, Mary Sarah" To: Cc: "Baker, Mary Sarah" , "Hamel, Emily" X-AOL-IP: 207.198.239.9 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:504400981:9368397 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #26 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------