From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #23 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, January 22 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 023 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Celebrating the Music of Joni Mitchell... [JRMCo1@aol.com] to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... [mags h <] Re: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... [JRMC] Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... [mags] Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman [RoseMJoy@aol.com] New Website Cool! ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman [vince ] Re: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... [Bob] Re: Shitting on her fans?! ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf & Go Huskies! [Catherine McKay ] Re: I Used to be a King, the tribute et al [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: New Website Cool! [Jim Ayson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:06:20 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: "Celebrating the Music of Joni Mitchell... One other thing I wanted to add, on a positive note: I am so insufferably proud of Joni for her philanthropy for the sake of children all over the world this year! Not lost on me in my disappointment over her declining to appear at Carnegie is the fact that, geez, like millions will be earned for the Music for Youth cause. It's a benefit, stupid! That's what I have to remind myself. I can congratulate Joni and her management for that. And I do. Add to that the contributions to the Warchild Foundation for war-torn kids that resulted from her donation of a painting, which was then fashioned into a beautiful holiday card. Lots of money for a great cause, and the cards themselves are priceless. I'm bringing a gross of them to handout in New York. Hope she does a new card next year! I'll buy that for a dollar! Still more, if I were a Sonya Kitchell, wunderkind and Starbucks cash-calf, I'd be pleased as punch to have my name even mentioned in the breath as a Joni Mitchell! Not to mention having my name plastered next to her beautiful self-portrait for the world to see for months! Talk about prestige by association, Joni's doing all artists appearing at Carnegie Hall that night a huge, solid favor, I think. Without ever even setting foot on stage again. I think Joni's management figured that part out and figured: "Hey, what the feck? We didn't sign on for all that!" Joni probably said to herself: I'll just stay home with my canvas and palette in Bel Air. I've got art to do. Georgia O'Keeffe wouldn't put down her brush for pomp like this. Why should I?" But who knows? By now my love for her body of work is pretty much unconditional. What's that line from "Brokeback Mountain": "I wish I knew how to quit you, Joni!" But alas, I cannot. Never will. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:24:48 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... greetings and salutations from the Canadian Prairie ;-) I'm still, deep in the land of lurk, up to my vocal chords in all things musical there in the Peg (going to a house concert tonight, then megga giggage next Sunday lallaaa) anywaaaay.....Ive also just resubbed to the list, and am WAY behind, however, all this talk about Joni in NYC has given us lots to ponder........ I agree with Cassy, I think that Joan's management has gracefully declined the invite to the private party....and that does not mean that she's not going to be at the event...or does it? Who knows? Isnt it exciting to be that child again; fill your heart with wonder, at the possibility. ;-) hey I think it's cool of him to respond, period. Tres cool Anyway....I know that Joni has surprised her lovely fans before...for instance, when Joni attended the Hommage in Toronto a few years back, many of us sat there in a state of happyshock that Joni, after 30 years, sat down at the piano and PLAYED! A gorgeous soundscape filled with heartsoul expressions...yea and she said she was a bit rusty :-) I will not soon forget that moment, and I know that there were jmdlers who were a lot closer to the stage , who could give their own sweet memories of that moment. I can still here Steve Polifka calling out to her...Joni! Play the piano! And she did...ah, the power of adoring fans ;-) hiya Steve..... All I'm saying is, don't give up hope, and hey, while Im at it....a gentle reminder here, let's not jump the bones of someone who is doing what we all do, expressing our opinions/disappointment and so on, perhaps things would be different had we been in Mack's room, watching his comments within the context of his intentions/meaning. ..see here's the thing....manohman, we love her so much, sometimes words are the only vehicle that we have to express all that Joan means to us. The sound track of our life....or something like that ;-) I just finished re~reading the short story, Brokeback Mountain...and will try to write something about that soon. I wish I had read it prior to knowing about the film itself. I know Annie Proulx' writing well (Shipping News) and I have feelings about short stories in general, and this one in particular. I'm finding it difficult to separate the short story from the big screen story, and I havent even seen it. and speaking of films....has anyone seen Munich? I cant wait to see that one too...soon, hopefully, if I can come up for aire sometime soon :-) anyway....glad to be baaaaack ;-)) Mags npimh: Lost Together, Blue Rodeo. Cassy wrote: << >...let's not jump the bones of someone who is doing what we all do... > Hi Magsie, Welcome back! Um, I don't know what it means to have one's "bones jumped" on the Canadian Prairie, but I'm pretty sure it means something *entirely* different down here... ;-) - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:22:11 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman May I please add my two cents worth of fussing a bit, too? (raising my hand politely) When "some random person" phoned last night to tell me that Joni would not be attending the Tribute, I gasped with intense disappointment. It was a stab in the heart. Oh no! This cannot be! In the past 24 hours, I think I have gone through the entire grief process (not the worst ever, of course, in the grand scheme of things -- just a mini grief process): denial, anger, bargaining, acceptance. (I think I missed one stage -- what can it be?). I see something of those dualing (dueling?) emotions in all the posts here today. (".....my friends were calling up all day yesterday All emotions and abstractions It seems we all live so close to that line and so far from satisfaction....") Then again, maybe I'm *not* truly at the acceptance stage yet, because I think maybe some of you are correct in that she is only declining to attend the cafe party; maybe when she sees Julius's kind and beautifully-worded first-class invitation she will change her mind, or consider it for the first time, or reconsider, or whatever. And *certainly* there is hope that when she sees the elevator picture she will remember the beautiful man with the ruby in his ear and say to herself: "Yes! I'd still like to see him sometime, I'd still like to see him..." Or -- as I brighten up like a neon light -- maybe she just needs a ticket! That's it! I'll give her my tickets!!! ; ) "We can never know about the days to come But we think about them anyway, yay" (I know, that's CS, not JM) But, to be more serious, as she told us herself: People will tell you where they've been They'll tell you where to go But until you get there yourself You never really know. We don't know what's up with her these days, and she deserves her privacy, of course. But damn it, I still wish she would come (there's my both sides now). But for sure, it will be a wonderful night in the city, and I so look forward to meeting everyone. How many more days, Laura? Love, Patti P., trying to accept the changes, at least better than I used to do P.S. Julius, thanks for sharing that CSN song with us. I love that one! (And how cool would it be if some of THEM showed up?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:32:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf Smurf wrote: Thanks, Em. That's very sweet of you. I wish I could be there, too. Whether or not Joni shows never meant as much to me as seeing some of my favorite people in the world -- and meeting (in person, I mean) new ones like you and that nice, obsessive Patti woman from Connecticut. You will all still have a great time, so don't worry about the Joanster not showing. She's just the catalyst for the real happening, which is the JMDL gathering. - -------- The JMDL gathering is the real thing, of course. I was wishing you could be there, too, Smurf....until, of course, you called me "obsessive". Obsessive? Moi? Come on, now! Is that nice? You just SHUT UP, you stupid bastard!!!!! Laughing it all away, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf lets kidnap Smurf and bring him.... :P Em - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Smurf wrote: > > Thanks, Em. That's very sweet of you. I wish I could > be there, too. Whether or not Joni shows never meant > as much to me as seeing some of my favorite people in > the world -- and meeting (in person, I mean) new ones > like you and that nice, obsessive Patti woman from > Connecticut. You will all still have a great time, so > don't worry about the Joanster not showing. She's just > the catalyst for the real happening, which is the JMDL > gathering. > > -------- > > The JMDL gathering is the real thing, of course. > > I was wishing you could be there, too, Smurf....until, of course, you > called > me "obsessive". Obsessive? Moi? Come on, now! Is that nice? > > You just SHUT UP, you stupid bastard!!!!! > > Laughing it all away, > > Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... ;-))) hey my cherished friend... thought that might get your attention.... thanks for the welcome back Julius; just like Dorothy said .... anyway.... I am enjoying your most eloquent writing, as per usual :-) love, Magsie watching the white flags of winter chimneys against a gorgeous indigo Prairie Skye. np:32 Flavours ;-)) JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: magsie_h@yahoo.com writes: >...let's not jump the bones of someone who is doing what we all do... Hi Magsie, Welcome back! Um, I don't know what it means to have one's "bones jumped" on the Canadian Prairie, but I'm pretty sure it means something *entirely* different down here... ;-) - -Julius let us go then you and i ~t.s.eliot~ - --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:16:55 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman I knew this was going to happen......and it breaks my heart to see it Someday maybe this group will get the maternal affection from Joni that I think we all are deserving of.... just my .02 rosie in nj sittin on her groceries..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:16:11 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: New Website Cool! Saw the new Joni web site today. Love it! Thanks to all that were involved this is cool. Peace, Craig NP: Eliza Gilkyson - Sanctuary PS: Surfing in between painting rooms ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:42 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Joni Tribute: Sad News from Sam Feldman Mack's reaction, and Rosie's, is closer to mine than much of what I have read this is a woman who was incredibly gracious to Wally before he died also she refused to show up for her induction at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and arranged to have the hardware delivered to her in paper bag at a salute to herself that she arranged and marketed - how cool would it have been for her to do PWWAM without the self promoting HOF thing after she stiffed Cleveland the woman has issues to be sure on a scale of 1 to 100 where health issues might lie and personal issues might lie, who knows, and we cannot judge ultimately because we do not know for her goodness to Wally, I will always be appreciative and that speaks volumes about our Joan but next time she goes on a rant about not getting recognition, I hope Joni paints that portrait while looking in a mirror Vince RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >I knew this was going to happen......and it breaks my heart to see it > >Someday maybe this group will get the maternal affection from Joni that I >think we all are deserving of.... > >just my .02 > >rosie in nj >sittin on her groceries..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: to be (at Carnegie Hall) or not to be; that is the question.... Howdy Mags - thought about you this very day, as I read the new Rolling Stone with a lengthy Neil Young article/interview, and he made lots of references to Winnipeg. Matter of fact, many of the quotes from NY could have come from Joni herself, in terms of speaking of himself as a prairie person, and talking about artistic growth and stuff like that. Bob NP: Hootie & The Blowfish, "Only Wanna Be With You" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:47:38 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans?! Fred wrote: > However, the following post from Mack did catch my eye, and I felt > compelled to respond. > > "Shitting on her fans"?! Just because she can't attend? And this makes > her lyrics "hypocritical"? Say what?! > > I'm sorry, this attitude really crosses the line for me. In the first > place, who the hell knows her life, how she is, what she's doing, etc? > How can anyone presume that she "owes" her fans her presence at this > one particular event? - --Hmm. Without her fans she would not be Joni Mitchell, would she? She'd just be another lonely painter living who knows where. I don't get this attitude that performers are Gods that can do no wrong. Yes, she owes her fans. She owes them for the life that she lives, due to the money that they have provided her with to live that way. She owes them for giving her the adoration to make her, at least a little part of who she is, maybe a large part. These are not rich people, just little old folk trying to eke it out. Many have put out a lot to be there. Time, money, and heart. > > Secondly, why on earth would Joni want to come in order to appease > fans with an attitude like this? - --And being angry about this doesn't make someone, me in this particular, less of a fan than a starry eyed one. After all, who said 'if you are feeling contempt, well then you tell it." That's my rant. Think what you want and I will defend your right to do so. mack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf / more sad news - --- Em wrote: > lets kidnap Smurf and bring him.... Dear Em and Patti, Thank you for your email and kind invitation. Unfortunately, Smurf will not be attending the event and neither will any of our staff. Have a wonderful evening. Kind regards, Cathy Clarke Assistant to Sam Feldman Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:22:20 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf / more sad news ROTFLMAO...oh Smurfie, you've done it again! leave it to you to make us larf.... rosie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:32:51 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf / more sad news ROTFLMAO!!! So is Gail! "...kind invitation..." LOL! You're a panic, Smurf. - -Julius In a message dated 1/21/06 6:17:09 PM, smurfadelica@yahoo.com writes: > --- Em wrote: > > > lets kidnap Smurf and bring him.... > > > Dear Em and Patti, > > Thank you for your email and kind invitation. > Unfortunately, Smurf will > not be attending the event and neither will any of our > staff. > > Have a wonderful evening. > > Kind regards, > > Cathy Clarke > Assistant to Sam Feldman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:50:31 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf & Go Huskies! Moi, aussi -- ROTFLMAO, Smurf! You are too f#$%ing much! (Pardon my French ce soir!) Love, Patti P. NPOMTV: My UConn Huskies in a Big East battle w/ Louisville on ESPN. I know there are not too many basketball fans here, but there are a few....so, GO HUSKIES! Julius, I hope you are wearing your Husky hat tonight while you are ROTFLYA off. And the dreaded Duke Blue Devils finally lost a game today, so I know Mrs. SCJoniguy is happy tonight. Duck Fuke! (Pardon my French encore une fois). >From: JRMCo1@aol.com >To: smurfadelica@yahoo.com, emzdogz@yahoo.com, loveuconn@hotmail.com, > joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf / more sad news >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:32:51 EST > >ROTFLMAO!!! So is Gail! "...kind invitation..." LOL! You're a >panic, >Smurf. > >-Julius > >In a message dated 1/21/06 6:17:09 PM, smurfadelica@yahoo.com writes: > > > > --- Em wrote: > > > > > lets kidnap Smurf and bring him.... > > > > > > Dear Em and Patti, > > > > Thank you for your email and kind invitation. > > Unfortunately, Smurf will > > not be attending the event and neither will any of our > > staff. > > > > Have a wonderful evening. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Cathy Clarke > > Assistant to Sam Feldman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:01:19 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans?! On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:47:38 -0600 "mack watson-bush" wrote: > --Hmm. Without her fans she would not be Joni Mitchell, >would she? She'd > just be another lonely painter living who knows where. > I don't get this > attitude that performers are Gods that can do no wrong. > Yes, she owes her > fans. Does she owe fans who join an email list more than she owes fans who do not? (I'm certainly not more of Joni fan now than I was before I joined this list.) Perhaps she meet should individually with every fan in the world, including those without the internet, to tell them how much she appreciates them. I couldn't possibly go to New York for this, but I have been reading all of your posts as if I am going, have (and still am) excited for you, and thought (sincerely) "aww, that's too bad" when I heard she wasn't going to be there (if that's even what the letter means). However, I am quite certain that any decision Joni made had nothing to do with any of us. The idea that by turning down any offer (assuming there even was one) to participate in this event was not aimed at her fans, or that she owes us to turn up in NYC at a time we've selected, is absurd. After all, she never even hinted that she might want to do this concert, or that she was going to be there. This was an assumption (she's GOT to be there!) that snowballed into an accepted fact (she WILL be there!). Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:18:14 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, an affectionate jab at Smurf & Go Huskies! Huskies? My niece plays for the Huskies - in Saskatoon, where Joni lived: http://huskies.usask.ca/profiles.php?s=4&g=2&pid=333 - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > GO HUSKIES! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:06:36 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Attracted to you... njc It's been said that there's nothing quite like getting money in the mail, but gifts from fellow jmdlers is a close second in my book. For instance, Anita in London and Patti P., my MVP in Connecticut, have both sent me wonderful care packages. And by synchro, they both sent me magnets! You know, those sticky 2' wide knickknacks we all stick on our fridges and such? Well, I stick 'em on a file cabinet right here by my computer and I think about these lovelies every time I sit here, almost. Anita, who I love, sent me a magnet with a photo of a mounted beefeater in front of Buckingham Palace, because she picked up on my, yes, obsession with Her Majesty the Queen. And Patti sent me a heart-shaped red one that reads, sweetly "Someone from UConn Loves Me." Aww. So, now I want magnets from everyone featuring some scene or saying from your neck of the woods. Bring 'em to New York, or mail 'em to me, please. I'll get a bunch from San Francisco and hereabouts and I'll trade ya...even Stephen. Okay. It's my new hobby. I need one. Now I want magnets. Please give me some. I'll give one to you. They're cool and they stick to stuff. Magnets. - -Julius 36 Park Ridge Road San Rafael, CA 94903 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:00:31 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Shitting on her fans?! J. Kendel Johnson wrote:. > > Finally, "has produced some crappy music" is just a cheap shot -- and points, of course, to Mack's understandable disappointment more than anything -- but if you're going to crititque the work of any artist fairly, much less someone of Joni's undeniable stature, a little more substantive, thoughtful language is really in order, isn't it? Hmm. Perhaps. I don't suppose that it is any cheaper than deriding many other musicians and writers that don't seem to make the grade of Joni Mitchell, as she has done on numerous occasions. Everyone has opinions, even me. Some work of Joni's I find brilliant and have written so on many occasions, however; much is trite and not on par with some of the music put out by those she derides. I could be verbose and attempt to impress with colorful language or should I write that I could have. Glass houses are just that. I found the direct approach more suitable for what my intent was. And I would imagine that Joni Mitchell would be the first person to stand up and defend my right to my opinion of her, in this instance. mack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:43:47 -0800 From: "Paul" Subject: Re: Fuss Fuss and More Fuss I have to agree with Gerald's idea about smoking. Joni always seems to have her nicotine sources close by, and I wonder if Carnegie Hall just wouldn't allow an exception for her. (By the way, is it still legal to smoke in designated hotel rooms in NYC?) I am the lucky VIP ticket winner, and still feel very delighted and excited to be able to go. I am very much hoping that Joni somehow manages to make it. I had a dream last night where the JMDL was somehow sitting around a conference table and Les played a videotape of Joni, saying that she was hoping she'd see us at a get-together after the tribute concert. (Les, you don't have a videotape you're holding back, do you?) So, if the universe is telling me something by having me win the ticket, then maybe, just maybe, she'll find a JMDL group at a bar after the concert. (hope hope hope) In any case, we will have a night of Joni's songs to revel in together. paul m (in pdx) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:51:07 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: I Used to be a King, the tribute et al Julius posted the lyrics to the captioned song (from Nash's 'Songs For Beginners', I think ?). Pretty obvious, I agree. I believe that song has appeared on a list of "songs about/for Joni" from the JMDL here - I forget the compiler - maybe Simon. Anyway, I was doing a little treadmill today (gotta start somewhere) and watching a CSN DVD - the acoustic one. Right at the end of Suite Judy Blue Eyes, and immediately before the beginning of Our House, I believe Graham Nash mumbles out "God bless you Joni", or some such. I'd go back and re-listen, but it's right at the end of the 10 minute or so SJBE track, and right before the Our House "track break". Can anyone confirm ? Over the years, CSN have been pretty supportive, IMO (notwithstanding the recently reported complaints from Crosby, who is no doubt a really bright and sensitive guy, but perhaps a bit less tolerant of others' questionable moments than others have been of his). And pretty obviously, still Joni lovers, too. Speaking of Joni lovers, days like this expose the complexities of emotionality in all of us, no ? Despite the complexity (the disappointment/hurt - and how will the performers' feel ? - followed by the range of emotions expressed earlier by others), at the end of the day, I really do empathize (at least, I imagine I can) with Joni's dilemma/ emotional conflict in situations such as this. And, I just hope she is well - physically and otherwise. On balance, I sense there is a lot of altruistic love for Joni here on the list. I hope she feels it. Like this. Although I speak in tongues Of men and angels I'm just sounding brass And tinkling cymbals without love Love suffers long Love is kind! Enduring all things Love has no evil in mind If I had the gift of prophecy And all the knowledge And the faith to move the mountains Even if I understood all of the mysteries If I didn't have love I'd be nothing Love never looks for love Love's not puffed up Or envious Or touchy Because it rejoices in the truth Not in iniquity Love sees like a child sees As a child I spoke as a child I thought and I understood as a child But when I became a woman I put away childish things And began to see through a glass darkly Where as a child I saw it face to face Now I only know it in part Fractions in me Of faith and hope and love And of these great three Love's the greatest beauty Love Love Love Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:19:54 +0800 From: Jim Ayson Subject: Re: New Website Cool! On 1/22/06, Happy The Man wrote: > Saw the new Joni web site today. Love it! > > Thanks to all that were involved this is cool. I just saw it myself. It's a beautiful site, not just for joni fans, but by any definition it is a very well designed (and functional) piece of work, from the front end to backend database programming. Kudos to the design and development team! And thanks for keeping Wally Breese's legacy alive. - - jim in manila ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #23 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------