From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #5 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 6 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 005 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: [NortheastJonifest] Itineraries for NYC [Garret ] RE: [NortheastJonifest] Itineraries for NYC njc [ReckersL@ebrd.com] Re: music genome project/great radio station njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [Catherine McKay ] Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall [roberto munguia ] Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall NJC ["Cindy Vickery" ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane ["Ric Robinson" ] Re: Gretchen Wilson/NJC [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [Paul In MD ] njc brokeback mountain [vince ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [Paul In MD ] Re: longhorns njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [roberto munguia Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Itineraries for NYC Dermot and I took the plunge. Flights, hotel, and tickets in the dress circle now booked and (more to the point) paid for. We need a holiday! We arrive in New York midday tuesday 31st and leave evening time on friday 3rd feb. Dermot is NOT a Joni fan. In fact, he quite passionately dislikes her. I am hoping that seeing other artists doing her songs might just convert him a little (he is a big fan of Bebel Gilberto and really likes Tracy Chapman and has been known to swing his behind along to the sweet sound of Destiny's Child:-) Any pre or post show gatherings would be great! We intend to do a lot of touristy things. I will have to appreciate a lot of architecture to make up for dragging Dermot to the tribute, lol. We have a few people to meet there (well, you know what the Irish are like - they are everywhere) and really just wanna have a larf. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:12:06 -0000 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Itineraries for NYC njc My goodness, this is really turning into another real Jonifest! I just want to make 1) a very friendly, well-meant comment to all of you lucky so-and-soes, to wish you a fantastic time, and 2) a very pointless but heartfelt comment that I so wish I could make it, but those dates are absolutely impossible for me, as I can't get away from work in early February at all. I will so sorely regret missing out on that great music, great company and great city... But I'm truly excited to hear how it's all coming together for so many of you, that's really giving me a buzz! Lieve in London. - -----Original Message----- ______________________________________________________________ This message may contain privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please keep it confidential and return it to the sender. Although we have taken steps to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, the EBRD accepts no liability for any loss or damage caused by computer viruses and would advise you to carry out your own virus checks. The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. From: NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: 05 January 2006 08:45 To: NortheastJonifest@yahoogroups.com Cc: joni@smoe.org; Bob Muller Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Itineraries for NYC Dermot and I took the plunge. Flights, hotel, and tickets in the dress circle now booked and (more to the point) paid for. We need a holiday! We arrive in New York midday tuesday 31st and leave evening time on friday 3rd feb. Dermot is NOT a Joni fan. In fact, he quite passionately dislikes her. I am hoping that seeing other artists doing her songs might just convert him a little (he is a big fan of Bebel Gilberto and really likes Tracy Chapman and has been known to swing his behind along to the sweet sound of Destiny's Child:-) Any pre or post show gatherings would be great! We intend to do a lot of touristy things. I will have to appreciate a lot of architecture to make up for dragging Dermot to the tribute, lol. We have a few people to meet there (well, you know what the Irish are like - they are everywhere) and really just wanna have a larf. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NortheastJonifest/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NortheastJonifest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ EBRD SECURITY NOTICE This email has been virus scanned ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 03:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: music genome project/great radio station njc Hi Ron, When I was in Raleigh my sister turned me on to this. The website is http://www.pandora.com/ It's very addictive and pretty damn cool. You can have up to 100 stations, I've got about 6 now, including my "Miles Davis" station that I'm listening to now. If you use the interactive "guide me" features you can really shape it into a pleasing 'radio station'. Bob NP: Jack DeJohnette, "Dancing" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 03:53:02 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane I may have to do a "double up" with a couple of months...2005 was just a huge year for Joni covers, and now that she's retired I think they're going to keep coming fast and furious. Hardly a day goes by that I don't uncover another one (part of that is that I've gotten damn good at finding them, plus I have lots of folks around the world helping me). Which brings me to ask - any JMDLer's in the Czech Republic (or with access to that market)? Of the Christmas releases that came out in 2005, one is a compilation of Czech artists and it features a...guess...RIVER! Meanwhile, Ron....send me those covers, dammit. Bob NP: Wayne Shorter, "Sanctuary" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:07:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane - --- vince wrote: > Mr Bob, > > I tried to download it and got this message: "Sorry, > there are too many > users downloading right now. Please go back and try > again." > > You sure have a power in your posts! > > Vince I've tried a bunch of times and keep getting that same message. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:17:05 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: imagine. . at Carnegie hall You can still put in your guesses for Joan's song at Carnegie hall. . I will post the complete list before the show (and I am taking a copy with me, : -) BUT for now. . let's do some I M A G I N I N G or some FAntAsiZING together. . . What can you imagine? . . . really or wildly for the night of FEB. 1 in NYC, Carnegie Hall? I'll begin: I imagine her singing 5 or 6 songs. . . one of them being You Turn me ON I'm a Radio (ps. going through a rough time, my dad is in the hospital) _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:26:06 -0600 From: roberto munguia Subject: Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall I think she'll sing *Song For Sharon* with her reference to N.Y.C. I came to me in a flash............................. On 1/5/06, Marianne Rizzo wrote: > > You can still put in your guesses for Joan's song at Carnegie hall. . > > I will post the complete list before the show (and I am taking a copy with > me, : -) > > BUT for now. . > > let's do some I M A G I N I N G or some FAntAsiZING together. . . > > What can you imagine? . . . really or wildly > > for the night > of FEB. 1 in NYC, Carnegie Hall? > > I'll begin: > > I imagine her singing 5 or 6 songs. . . > one of them being You Turn me ON I'm a Radio > > > > > > > > > > (ps. going through a rough time, my dad is in the hospital) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:23:30 -0600 From: "Cindy Vickery" Subject: Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall NJC marianne - put my guess in as "for the roses." she's reframed it recently, so i know it's still on her radar, and god knows it's uncomfortably appropriate. and i suspect she'd do a piano piece rather than a guitar piece. wish i could be there, at any rate. i'm jealous! cindy _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:17:07 -0500 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall that she hangs out & parties with us after the show :0) what was the name of that smoking bar Kay? - -----Original Message----- From: Marianne Rizzo To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:17:05 -0500 Subject: imagine. . at Carnegie hall You can still put in your guesses for Joan's song at Carnegie hall. . I will post the complete list before the show (and I am taking a copy with me, : -) BUT for now. . let's do some I M A G I N I N G or some FAntAsiZING together. . . What can you imagine? . . . really or wildly for the night of FEB. 1 in NYC, Carnegie Hall? I'll begin: I imagine her singing 5 or 6 songs. . . one of them being You Turn me ON I'm a Radio (ps. going through a rough time, my dad is in the hospital) _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:13:12 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: imagine. . at Carnegie hall I cannot imagine her singing anything but 'both sides now', the orchestral version. The view of it in my mind is nothing less than spectacular. mack np: ringing in my ears from the electric bill and this is Texas for goodness sakes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:21:19 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: imagine. . at Carnegie hall Did you say there was a prize involved? ;-) No matter...I still will guess... People's Parties!! How did I arrive at that? I took Joni's.. The Complete Poems And Lyrics...closed my eyes.. flipped through the pages...and my index finger just happened to land on People's Parties. Bree >BUT for now. . > >let's do some I M A G I N I N G or some FAntAsiZING together. . . > >What can you imagine? . . . really or wildly > >for the night >of FEB. 1 in NYC, Carnegie Hall? > >I'll begin: > >I imagine her singing 5 or 6 songs. . . >one of them being You Turn me ON I'm a Radio > > > > > > > > > >(ps. going through a rough time, my dad is in the hospital) > >_________________________________________________________________ >Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:36:42 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Graham Nash MOPA website Oops, I forgot to include the link to the museum website: www.mopa.org Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:36:40 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane Got it in the end and well worth the wait, many thanks Bob, Ric - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "JMDL" Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:33 AM Subject: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane > As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of > months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of > Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: > > a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; > b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. > > Since that post, I've gotten a couple of requests from curious JMDLer's > about it, so since it's on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) I > thought I'd put it out there for whomever might like to hear it: > > http://www.quickdump.com/files/1044322852.html > > Enjoy - as always, comments are appreciated. > > Bob > > NP: The Great Jazz Trio, "Naima" > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, > whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:33:08 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Graham Nash Photograph Exhibition in San Diego Happy New Year, everyone. Just wanted to post that I just read in one of our (very) local papers that the Museum of Photographic Arts in Balboa Park in San Diego will show Graham's exhibition titled "Eye to Eye" from Jan. 8 - April 3. I'll definitely be stopping by to see that one! The article also says that Nash is 'considered the father of digital printing.' I didn't know that. Well, let me know if any other SoCal listers would like to make a day of it. I'm game. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:31:45 -0500 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Gretchen Wilson/NJC Many of you won't like this but it's just MO. Gretchen Wilson is what's so weak with today's country music, or any for that matter. Her lyrics are simple and predictable. (They're gonna have to kick her out of this bar tonight 'cause she's horny, wild, and gonna get her some....so look out). Now there's nothing wrong with all that, but I had rather do some searching than have it plunked in my face. But you gotta admit she's got quite a following for that type of stuff. Just like Toby Keith.....hey, how duya like me now.....paalleeese. But, that's what variety is all about. I just turn the station as quickly as possible and go to something else. Yeah, maybe Sara Evans, Patti Loveless, Deanna Carter, and Suzy Boggus. Mike NPIMH: Sara Evans - Great Place To Start ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:01:59 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: Gretchen Wilson/NJC No problem, Mike. I think she's great, you don't, that's way cool. Now we do agree on Toby Keith - and I will grant that Wilson's politics aren't much more advanced but how Merle Haggard thinks he can do the same old schtick anymore is beyond me. Yet if I were to buy a country album, Wilson's would be the one I buy. If we all like the same thing, none of us would be able to download anything - which is why I still haven't heard the Cass Elliot thing! Vince - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "MIKE HICKS" > Many of you won't like this but it's just MO. Gretchen Wilson is what's so weak > with today's country music, or any for that matter. Her lyrics are simple and > predictable. (They're gonna have to kick her out of this bar tonight 'cause > she's horny, wild, and gonna get her some....so look out). Now there's nothing > wrong with all that, but I had rather do some searching than have it plunked in > my face. But you gotta admit she's got quite a following for that type of > stuff. Just like Toby Keith.....hey, how duya like me now.....paalleeese. > But, that's what variety is all about. I just turn the station as quickly as > possible and go to something else. Yeah, maybe Sara Evans, Patti Loveless, > Deanna Carter, and Suzy Boggus. > > Mike > NPIMH: Sara Evans - Great Place To Start ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:07:20 -0800 (PST) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane Just snagged my copy of this great tune, Bob. Faster tempo and "poppier" than Joni's, but Cass gave it her own special style. Sounds very much like that late 60s period. The sound that Cass as well as The Mamas and The Papas produced back then was so distinctive. For some reason, whenever I think of Cass, I think of Karen Carpenter in tandem -- two great (and popular) singers whose careers were cut short in their prime. I had problems downloading as well but finally just kept toggling back and forth between the "too many downloaders" message and the "click link to download" message. It finally went thru. Thanks! Paul In MD Bob Muller wrote: As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. Since that post, I've gotten a couple of requests from curious JMDLer's about it, so since it's on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) I thought I'd put it out there for whomever might like to hear it: http://www.quickdump.com/files/1044322852.html Enjoy - as always, comments are appreciated. Bob NP: The Great Jazz Trio, "Naima" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:21:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane Glad you got it, Paul - sorry to anyone who is having problems getting it via Quickdump, let me know if you're still in need & I'll send it to you directly. And I appreciate your comments as well...makes me wonder, given that so many of Joni's songs took off by way of covers, if ST would be more widely known and/or covered had Cass' record seen the light of day. Maybe the lyrics are too obscure, I don't know, but it's an interesting thought. Bob NP: Sting, "History Will Teach Us Nothing" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:07:40 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc brokeback mountain 22 hours to go before I finally get to see it - it opens in grand rapids tomorrow - got my tickets pre-ordered, have a date with a special jmdler, and listening to the soundtrack right now - if anyone has not read the short story please do, it is such powerful writing - as sparse as wyoming and as evocative - the new yorker link to the story does not work anymore but it is available in a special edition book and in Anne Proulx's collection of short stories "close range: wyoming stories" loved this story since it was published in 1997 and finally getting to see the movie... and with a precious friend of ours too - what could be better - please excuse my anticipation vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane I don't think the lyrics are obscure at all, Bob. It's got a beautiful melody and paints a picture of a specific place and time quite well. I think this is great "entry level Joni" that a wide variety of people might like. Cass had a huge following -- kids, their parents, rockers and the easy listening crowd. She got wide radio airplay on all types of stations and appeared on tv often. Her records sold well. As popular as Both Sides Now was for Judy Collins, I don't think Judy ever reached the wide audience that Cass did. Had Cass included this song on one of her albums, it would have been a major boost but it would probably have contributed even more to the detestable "Joni Mitchell as folk singer/songwriter" label. That being said, I'm not sure this song has the weight to be an A side single for Cass. Maybe a B side or, since she appeared on The Carol Burnett Show several times, perhaps she should have sung this during one of her appearances. I even have the backdrop for this number. As Cass sings, Carol and Harvey Korman portraying the Old Couple (what were their names -- Molly and Burt?) rock away on a porch in the background surrounded by pickling jars. Paul In MD (who's starting to scare himself) NPIMH: I'm so glad we had this time together ... scjoniguy@yahoo.com> wrote:And I appreciate your comments as well...makes me wonder, given that so many of Joni's songs took off by way of covers, if ST would be more widely known and/or covered had Cass' record seen the light of day. Maybe the lyrics are too obscure, I don't know, but it's an interesting thought. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:48:39 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc brokeback mountain - --- vince wrote: > if anyone has not read the short story please do, it > is such powerful > writing - as sparse as wyoming and as evocative - > > the new yorker link to the story does not work > anymore but it is > available in a special edition book and in Anne > Proulx's collection of > short stories "close range: wyoming stories" I managed to snag the NY-er link when you first mentioned it, Vince. Sparse is a really good word to use to describe Annie Proulx's writing (sometimes, not always). After reading the story, I wondered if there was enough to it to make a full-length film, but I think there's a lot between the lines in the story, and that would require accomplished acting and directing and it sounds like that has been achieved. Anyone I know who has seen the film has loved it and I plan to see it very soon. NP - Mama Cass - S.... lane. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:30:28 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: longhorns njc OH PUHHHHHHLEEEESE! I had to listen to Julius last night who actually lives in Ca. Pulling for the bloody Longhorns and it was so painful over the last minutes of the game. I had to pull for them myself so he would not blow a gasket or have a blood clot or something. And thank god they won elsewise we would have had to call 911 or something. |ANYWAYS------ Who wants to get together in Anaheim, California for a pre NYC gathering during the NAMM show?? So far we have confirmed Kakki, and the ever wonderful Steve Dulson with Julius who is usally all gung ho on the free shows and late nights, but lately he is SO old and tired and anal and paranoid NOT TO MENTION CHEAP!!!!!!! Come on you guys we always have a blast. Best Paz > WE > WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > GO > LONGHORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:44:54 -0600 From: roberto munguia Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane LOL, Paul, LOL! with that image of Carol and Harvey in the background!! And you know Carol would be picking her teeth! NPIMH: Ween's version of I'm so Glad We Had This Time Together Roberto in Dallas ,who's a big Weenie On 1/5/06, Paul In MD wrote: > > I don't think the lyrics are obscure at all, Bob. It's got a beautiful > melody and paints a picture of a specific place and time quite well. I > think this is great "entry level Joni" that a wide variety of people might > like. Cass had a huge following -- kids, their parents, rockers and the > easy listening crowd. She got wide radio airplay on all types of stations > and appeared on tv often. Her records sold well. As popular as Both Sides > Now was for Judy Collins, I don't think Judy ever reached the wide audience > that Cass did. Had Cass included this song on one of her albums, it > would have been a major boost but it would probably have contributed even > more to the detestable "Joni Mitchell as folk singer/songwriter" label. > > That being said, I'm not sure this song has the weight to be an A side > single for Cass. Maybe a B side or, since she appeared on The Carol Burnett > Show several times, perhaps she should have sung this during one of her > appearances. I even have the backdrop for this number. As Cass sings, > Carol and Harvey Korman portraying the Old Couple (what were their names -- > Molly and Burt?) rock away on a porch in the background surrounded by > pickling jars. > > Paul In MD (who's starting to scare himself) > > NPIMH: I'm so glad we had this time together ... > > scjoniguy@yahoo.com> wrote:And I appreciate your comments as well...makes > me wonder, given that so many of Joni's songs took off by way of covers, if > ST would be more widely known and/or covered had Cass' record seen the light > of day. Maybe the lyrics are too obscure, I don't know, but it's an > interesting thought. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #5 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------