From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #4 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 5 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 004 Win a free VIP ticket to Carnegie Hall! details: jmdl.com/winvip.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Thanks [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Re: Dear friends [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Now Doing Great Things with Joni's Lyrics [LCStanley7@aol.com] Today I found out another reason to have joined this list NJC (oddly) [Lu] njc, sympathy ["Patti Parlette" ] WAS: Brokeback Mountain / NOW: "The Maker Makes" mistakes?-- njc [Smurf <] cowboy music njc [vince ] Re: cowboy music njc [Bob Muller ] Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [Bob Muller ] Re: cowboy music njc [vince ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane [vince ] RE: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane ["Richard Flynn" ] longhorns njc ["mack watson-bush" ] music genome project/great radio station njc ["ron" ] Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane ["ron" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:58:20 +0100 From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: Thanks Oh Julius - I realise I have to sing your name a lot more! Thanks a lot. You're an angel! I find it very charming to fall for flattery - - I do it myself all of the time! Oddmund - Norway ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:23:10 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Dear friends Donna, although I don't know you, my heart goes out to you. We all come and go unknown but I feel for every one of the souls who leave this earth. I lost my mother in 1995 and to this day, I'm not over it. Never will be I suspect. The only thing that helps is knowing there are other sources of love still around. Gaining new sources helps even more. Here's a new source of love for your Texas Tush. :-) Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:17:55 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Now Doing Great Things with Joni's Lyrics Vince wrote: There is a huge difference, Mark, between respecting something and saying it is so sacred that it cannot be improved, adapted, sharpened, edited, tweaked - and there really is nothing like that which any human has produced. Hi Vince, I like the saying, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It seems to be a human tendency to always wants something "better." In my own personal experience sometimes when I have that desire, I miss out on the perfection that is already there. If there wasn't a lot of perfection already in life, none of us would be here. I think of this from the molecular level to the universal level. Some people might hear Circle Game and not like it at all. Joni didn't think much of the song when she presented it. I'm glad she didn't sit in her dislike and rewrite the song a million times and never let it go out to the public. Beauty in the eye of the beholder is like sound in general I think. Some things vibrate our souls more than others. But, the way I see it, there is perfection in the very fact that our souls are moved at all. When people are in perfect harmony, there is a perfection, a magic about it. Yet when a person is dissonant at just the right moment, there is perfection and magic in that too. I don't claim to understand what is and what isn't sacred. It seems it can be as varied as people are varied. It is determined by so many parameters. Maybe you are more like Joni in your appraisal of the Circle Game than I am Vince. But that doesn't make your appraisal right and mine wrong. What is sacred or perfect to me doesn't have to be the same to you. Doesn't make it any more or less sacred or perfect in the grand scheme of the universe either. Some say God's greatest attribute is mercy. I see it in this. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:03:37 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Today I found out another reason to have joined this list NJC (oddly) Hello All and Happy 2006, Just before Christmas I put out a call to those who had attended the French Fest in regard to some possible footage of my son, Sam singing Hallelujah on the amazing Monday afternoon we all spent drinking and laughing and lazing about in the dappled shade on the main terrace, near the tomato plants, and in reach of much wine. Today from Adriano, (GOD BLESS YOU) arrived three CD/DVD's of the festival performances and some incredible footage of the attendees having a good old Joni time.... There was no footage of Sam singing on there but what his Dad will get to see, is the way that Sam and Liz enjoyed themselves with people I know he would have loved to meet. Thank you, Adriano, for taking the time to try and help me, thank you for hearing my call and for being part of our wonderful holiday. I will borrow a portable player to take in and let him see what is there. He is very ill still but making a slow recovery. This list is a wonderful place and I have become a lurker but still a reader and am in touch with those of you off list as often as I can. It is a wonderful community with its arguments and flash floods of emotion but from time to time that real sense of "being there" beams out like a sun burst on a cloudy day and takes away the feeling of struggle. Thank you all of you for being me Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:48:29 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, sympathy Querido Emiliano wrote: - ------------------------------- This is called, simply, "Death", and it's from maybe his first collection of poems, from 1907 Muerte (Hamlet: To die, to sleep..., to sleep... perchance to dream.) Eres suenno de un dios; cuando despierte al seno tornara's de que surgiste? sera's al cabo lo que un di'a fuiste? parto de desnacer sera' tu muerte? El suenno yace en la vigilia inerte? Por dicha aqui' el misterio nos asiste; para remedio de la vida triste, secreto inquebrantable es nuestra suerte. Deja en la niebla hundido tu futuro y ve tranquilo a dar tu u'ltimo paso, que cuanto menos luz, vas ma's seguro. Aurora de otro mundo es nuestro ocaso? Suenna, alma mi'a, en tu sendero oscuro: "Morir... dormir... dormir... sonnar acaso!" You're a god's dream; when he awakes will you return to the breast you arrived from? will you be, at last, what you once were? Birth of unbirth will be your death? Does the dream lie in the vigil, with no movement? Fortunately here the mystery assists us; for sad life's remedy, an uncoverable secret is our fate. Let staying in the fog your future and go calmly to give your last step, that the less the light, the more secure you go. Dawn of other world is our dusk? Dream, my soul, in your dark path: "To die... to sleep... to sleep... perchance dream" Miguel de Unamuno, Salamanca, 1864-1936 Please excuse me, all of you, for the rough translation and for the theme Love: Emiliano - -------------------------------- Un abrazo, Emiliano, muy fuerte! Thank you for your sympathy, Spanish-style, for my beloved friend Jose Luis who just died. He was a bright light in my life. It is just so meaningful and *perfect" to hear this poem from you, all the way from his homeland. And what incredible synchronicity, that your post came directly after Paz's and Bob's, with the terribly sad news about Donna's daddy. The love between a daughter and her daddy is so precious and special.....God, my heart just goes out to you, Donna. I send you waves and waves of strength and comfort and compassion and love. My Dad is getting older and sicker by the day, and I know the day or month is not too far off. I love him like no other, so I can not only imagine, but can really *feel* your pain right now, and share it. Bless you, bless your Dad, bless your whole family. Love, Patti P. P.S. No apologies needed, Emiliano -- as you can see the timing was very good. The theme is not one we like, but one we all must face. And it helps to not face it alone...... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: WAS: Brokeback Mountain / NOW: "The Maker Makes" mistakes?-- njc - --- patrick wrote: > i think the lyrics must be > "little dogies" rather > than doggies (dogies are calves, which is still not > accurate to the movie, > because jack and ennis were herding sheep.) That's news to me, Patrick! I always thought whenever people sang those lines -- before this Rufus song -- that it was 'doggie', as in canine. Is it pronounced the same way? I didn't transcribe the lyrics, by the way; I cut and pasted them from somewhere. (Although I would have written 'doggies' and thought it referred to dogs if I had typed it out.) - --Smurf, who for some reason wants to learn all he can about cowboys lately . . . NPIMH: Anything by Kitty Wells __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL  Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:23:32 -0500 From: vince Subject: cowboy music njc Smurf wrote: >NPIMH: Anything by Kitty Wells > > I have posted enough that I don't like country, which is to say, current country, basically everything since Loretta Lynn since it has all been pop trash since then - well, check out Gretchen Wilson's new album, All Jacked Up - http://www.gretchenwilson.com/ I thought last year's Red Neck Woman was catchy if not annoying but the promise she showed of being the one who may bring country back to country, that promise has been kept - best voice since Loretta Lynn too - - and the single All Jacked Up will be this year's Red Neck Woman except guys will be singing it too this world is going to hell when I start talking up a country album... yee haw Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:17:26 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: cowboy music njc Not to worry, Vince...firstly, there's no hell, that's just silly mythology, but then you already know that. "Country Music" is really just pop music for the grownups who aren't into the youngsters' hip-hoppy stuff. Lucky you, you can appreciate both! It's all good. Gretchen Wilson played a street festival here in the fall of 2004, and it was a MOB scene. She's coming back to town but this time she's playing the Bi-Lo Center. She's not my style but she seems to be pretty genuine and she's built a following the old-fashioned way with talent and hard work as far as I can tell. Bob NP: Wes Montgomery, "Impressions" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:33:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. Since that post, I've gotten a couple of requests from curious JMDLer's about it, so since it's on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) I thought I'd put it out there for whomever might like to hear it: http://www.quickdump.com/files/1044322852.html Enjoy - as always, comments are appreciated. Bob NP: The Great Jazz Trio, "Naima" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:36:03 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: cowboy music njc Bob Muller wrote: > <>Gretchen Wilson played a street festival here in the fall of 2004, > and it was a MOB scene. She's coming back to town but this time she's > playing the Bi-Lo Center. She's not my style but she seems to be > pretty genuine and she's built a following the old-fashioned way with > talent and hard work as far as I can tell. Damn, I'd love to see her in concert. I hate her politics (as obvious as having a duet with Merle Haggard, but then, she's not as offensive as Toby Keith, and she has talent) but what a voice and how great it is to hear real country again. "I Don't Feel Like Loving You Today" - what a vocal. And "One Bud Wiser" - that is another one going to be sung all year. As near as I can tell, it has been old fashioned talent and hard work as you say, the legend being that she was a waitress in Illinois and made her way up by hard work, and as far as I know, the legend is true. Vince > > Bob > NP: Wes Montgomery, "Impressions" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars > . > Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:56:39 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane Mr Bob, I tried to download it and got this message: "Sorry, there are too many users downloading right now. Please go back and try again." You sure have a power in your posts! Vince Bob Muller wrote: >As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: > > a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; > b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. > > Since that post, I've gotten a couple of requests from curious JMDLer's about it, so since it's on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) I thought I'd put it out there for whomever might like to hear it: > > http://www.quickdump.com/files/1044322852.html > > Enjoy - as always, comments are appreciated. > > Bob > > NP: The Great Jazz Trio, "Naima" > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:52:42 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane I LOVE IT! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: JMDL Subject: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. Since that post, I've gotten a couple of requests from curious JMDLer's about it, so since it's on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) I thought I'd put it out there for whomever might like to hear it: http://www.quickdump.com/files/1044322852.html Enjoy - as always, comments are appreciated. Bob NP: The Great Jazz Trio, "Naima" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:28:36 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" > As I reported earlier, a very nice Cass Elliot boxset came out a couple of > months ago, and one of the rare bits was an unreleased recording of > Sisotowbell Lane. Significant because: > > a. It's Cass Elliot, one of the finest pure voices in pop music history; > b. It's the only known cover of ST out there. This is quite lovely. A bit rushed, perhaps, but lovely. A nice arrangement and Cass sings it very carefully and well. What a wonderful voice she had. Makes me miss her. Not as good as Joni, though. Thanks, Bob! Mark E. in Seattle. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 23:26:03 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: longhorns njc WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO LONGHORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:06:07 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: music genome project/great radio station njc hi first off - happy new year to everyone out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! picked up on this from another list the music genome project is an attempt to analyse music by certain attributes. part of the project is an interactive radio station where you can enter an artists name & get music which is similar to that artist. its not really very accurate - still classifies joni as a folky - yet the music that is played is still pretty damn good. i got a range from indigo girls to emmylou harris, & a whole bunch of artists ive never heard of who are pretty damn good. & they evem played dancin' clown!!! ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:14:42 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Cass Elliot's Sisotowbell Lane hi >>>>Vince wrote >>>> I tried to download it and got this message: "Sorry, there are too many >>>> users downloading right now. Please go back and try again." just keep trying & youll get a gap sooner or later - its worth it >>>>bob wrote >>>>>on Volume 82 (not scheduled til November!) youve got albums set up all the way to november?!?!?!?!?!? i guess i must be the anti-bob - i still have covers i havent sent you from about a year ago (but i can see youre in no rush for them) ron np - well, take a guess ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #4 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------