From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #464 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, December 18 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 464 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni at Carnegie Hall [Lori Fye ] For Free - Extra Verse [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc [Smurf ] Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc [Smurf ] Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc [Smurf ] Re: saying hello but really a cry for help (NJC) [JoniPD ] Joni tribute [Garret ] imagery [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: [Fwd: Joni tribute concert in New York at Carnegie Hall, Feb 1 200g] [AsharaJM@aol.co] Re: MAYBE Joni's comin' to town, and maybe not! NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: MAYBE Joni's comin' to town, and maybe not! NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] carnegie tickets [Zachary Scot Johnson ] Re: imagery ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Joni Tribute concert ["Mark Scott" ] njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? [Randy Remote ] Tribute concert [Garret ] Re: For Free - Extra Verse [Mark-Leon Thorne ] The late John Spencer, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:08:55 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Joni at Carnegie Hall Julius wrote: > If you live anywhere near NYC don't dare miss this. You just > might live to regret it, Coyote. Much as I would love to attend, I won't be there. If it does end up being Joni's last public performance, I'm happy having seen her three times, most importantly at Yasgur's Farm in 1998. And, since I'm now a Californian, I just might be able to swing down to LA and hang out at the Daily Grill once in awhile (it's about two block from our LA office). No regrets ... y'all enjoy!! Lori, working in San Francisco, living in Berkeley for now ~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:21:42 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: For Free - Extra Verse I'm not sure if this has been discussed before. I was just watching the video, Come In From The Cold. When Joni sings, For Free at the piano, she adds an extra verse. I've never heard these lyrics before. They are quite beautiful. She also changes the line about having 16 gentlemen to an "entourage". Here is the extra verse: "Playing like a fallen angel. Playing like a rising star. Playing for a hat full of nothing to the honking of the cars." Mark in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:36:37 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc Apparently Joni's not the only one with gripes about the biz. Here's Mary J Blige's take: "I do know that in this business, it's like being in the [housing] projects again, only now we have all the stuff. You've got all this money, but you're still living right next door to the person that robbed your house. It's the same thing." - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc Apparently Joni's not the only one with gripes about the biz. Here's Mary J Blige's take: "I do know that in this business, it's like being in the [housing] projects again, only now we have all the stuff. You've got all this money, but you're still living right next door to the person that robbed your house. It's the same thing." - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:36:50 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Mary J Blige & the music biz -- njc Apparently Joni's not the only one with gripes about the biz. Here's Mary J Blige's take: "I do know that in this business, it's like being in the [housing] projects again, only now we have all the stuff. You've got all this money, but you're still living right next door to the person that robbed your house. It's the same thing." - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:43:39 +0100 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: saying hello but really a cry for help (NJC) Oh, Lieve, meine liebe! I fear I don't know how to help with this, dear (maybe someone has already suggested some solution privately) All that I can say is: if that fails again, and since you've digitally grabbed the photos already (I assume it's the most difficult and time taking task) maybe you could insert the photos in a simpler type of document (like a MSWord one, I think) and print the document oyurself. I know the results won't be the same, and it sounds like a very silly suggestion but sometimes, when I get pissed myself for not acheiving something, I always think of starting a "B plan": more simpler and easy to reach its end, less spectacular, but... I hope it does make sense. Anyway, please take my wishes for a Very happy and wonderful family reunion... and, of course, a peaceful and full of love 2006 year. Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Shawn Colvin & Mary Chapin Carpenter: Amelia ReckersL@ebrd.com wrote: >This is really a very urgent request for help from any computer boffins out >there. >I know that as a terrible lurker I can't redeem myself by dressing this >message up as anything more Joni-relevant, but I assure you I DO still read >all digests, laugh a Smurf's death tax jokes, marvel at Bob Muller's latest >covers collection, and cheer for Patti as she manages to meet her hero >Cindy. (I also still listen a lot to Joni, and recently bought her Shadows >and Light dvd which I hope to watch as I get some time over Christmas.) > >And I keep hoping to read some announcement about plans for a next Jonifest >somewhere new and exciting! (I have hopes of organising a Jonifest in >France myself one year, but I guess 2006 would be too soon after our most >enjoyable French gathering this year.) > >Anyway, after this quick intro, here is my terribly urgent plea. For the >last few months, I have been busy literally every free second on my PC at >home, trying to create a Kodak Photoalbum. This is not a virtual album but >a properly printed album, ordered digitally via the website >http://www.kodakalbums.com/UK/UK . > >I had to first of all download a "Kodak album editor" program on my own PC >which then allowed me to create the album with my own layout, captions etc. >I then spent, as I said, weeks and weeks of painstaking work to create this >album. Last week the work was done, and I was ready for the last step: to >send the album for printing, by pressing the "order" tab in the editor >program. It seemed to "insert" the information correctly (I saw the bar >reach 100% after some waiting), then it said "files being compressed for >downloading" and that also seemed to reach 100%, but then immediately an >error message came up saying "connection FTR server failed". >I have contacted the helpline, who sent me these instructions: >"This may be due to your browser (Internet Explorer) settings or a firewall. >You can find the browser settings under: Settings, Control Panel, Internet >Properties, Privacy tab. The setting should be ?Normal? or ?Accept all >cookies?. If this does not solve the problem then open Editor and go to >Settings, Advanced. Select ?Passive FTP connection?. If that does not help >either then you will have to disable the firewall temporarily." > >I tried to follow all the steps, but I always end up with the same failure >message. I assume I don't even have a firewall on the PC at home. >Anyway, I was then told I could burn the information onto a CD-Rom and send >it to an address in Holland. I did that Friday last week (the 9th) but with >the Christmas post, it hasn't even arrived there! > >I try to keep this short but just want to explain how important this is to >me. I would like to give the album as a present to an uncle in Belgium who >is having a big family reunion on the 26th (Monday). I have digitally >"grabbed" the photos with great effort from old 8mm films taken by my father >50 years ago, I have been slaving on getting them all restored, and if I >can't show the album on the 26th, then most of the work will have been in >vain because I may never see some of those members of the family again... > >I am desperate, and am trying one last time to send the damn stuff via the >Editor program on my PC. If anyone understands what the problem could be and >how I could resolve it, PLEASE let me know urgently, because I think that if >I haven't solved it by this time tomorrow, I have no chance of beating the >deadline. > >In any case, before I have a heart attack here, let me also quickly send my >very best seasonal wishes, especially for a peaceful 2006, to all my friends >on the list. >Hopefully we'll meet up again soon! >Lieve. > > > >______________________________________________________________ >This message may contain privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please keep it confidential and return it to the sender. >Although we have taken steps to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, the EBRD accepts no liability for any loss or damage caused by computer viruses and would advise you to carry out your own virus checks. >The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:46:45 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: what's up with the multiples? -- njc Sorry about Mary J Blige in triplicate, but I didn't know I was doing that. (I stopped the message twice because it didn't appear to be going through.) - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:10:15 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Joni tribute I had not noticed Joseph Arthur on the list of performers. He is someone to watch. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:21:18 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: imagery Chalk Mark In A Rain Storm These words... they come with action in my mind every time I read them. It's on the pavement, drawn with thick children's chalk, white, running in the water, fading away. Makes me think of what could be similar in a snow storm? Maybe 'street light in a snow storm.' But that would reappear again... not be gone for ever. Like Joni at Carnegie Hall... So many Joni thoughts this morning. I'm not even in Arkansas any more it seems. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:43:06 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Joni tribute concert in New York at Carnegie Hall, Feb 1 200g] Emiliano, You are SO sweet to forward this! It's true, I have been so busy with trying to get my crashed hard drive back in order as well as other "life" stuff, I haven't been able to read much list mail. Well, thanks to some other wonderful elves that also know I haven't had time to read list mail much, and who forwarded the info, I will be there with the wonderful Maggie! We wouldn't miss this for the world! :-) YAY!!!!!!!!!!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: MAYBE Joni's comin' to town, and maybe not! NJC But of course, of course, of course - I am SO there!! I'm sorry for my absence the past couple of days, no I'm not sulking but rather have had to temporarily relocate due to an ice storm putting the entire city in a virtual blackout since Thursday AM. The past 2 days my wife and I were with her Mom and invalid brother, making sure they had plenty of firewood and resources to hang on. Luckily, my Dad in Simpsonville SC maintained power so now we're here. I almost feel guilty as ALL my friends in town are in hotels or darkness & cold. Duke Power is now saying that power will be up by Tuesday night, they have assistance from 16 states working around the clock. But please don't think I'm complaining - this is just a minor inconvenience, especially compared to what Brother Michael and others have had to deal with. Trees and limbs are down all over the city; I've got 20 or so that fell in my yard but none on my home. OK, enough of that downer crap...the BIG news is that thanks to my other Brother Gary Z, I've got a front row center ticket for the concert and a VIP pass as well. I definitely would have been stuck without him so thanks Gary - a true friend and brother in Joni! Can't wait to see the concert and of course all my JMDL pals as well. As for Joni being there - even though there's no official announcement, based on what Julius has stated, I feel like it will definitely happen. Since there's already so many of us committed, and more to come I'm sure, should we create a sub-list to discuss meeting arrangements, etc? Just a thought. I'm already drooling over the list of performers at this show - and Bree, I'm having to tear up the carpets too, but not because of Teflon. I'm so excited I'm PEE-ING all over them! LOL Peace on Earth, Bob NP: Annie Lennox, "Here Comes The Rain Again" (live and unplugged, this is an awesome version) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: What will the CJ's do? NJC I had to say, Jim, that after reading #'1 1&2, CBS&SF (ha ha ha and thanks for the new anagram) was the song that immediately came to mind, but really that's the song that fits. What the CJ's are masters of are taking songs that don't fit and putting their special stamp on it. Their 2005 release of all covers has gotten lots of eartime with me. I still have to put together my Best Of list, that'll have to wait until I'm back in my own place. I can say that my favorite films this year were Jim Jarmusch's "Broken Flowers" and Miranda July's "You And Me And Everyone We Know". Oh, I and I have to mention "The Aristocrats" for sheer hilarity. And I liked "Walk The Line" a lot too. Least favorite films: "Look At Me" and "Revenge Of The Sith" Bob NP: Patty Griffin, "Blue Sky" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:50:40 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: MAYBE Joni's comin' to town, and maybe not! NJC In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:37:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, scjoniguy@yahoo.com writes: Since there's already so many of us committed, and more to come I'm sure, should we create a sub-list to discuss meeting arrangements, etc? Just a thought. I concur, we can use the _northeastjonifest@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:northeastjonifest@yahoogroups.com) , can't we? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Zachary Scot Johnson Subject: carnegie tickets Hi everyone, Anyone know if these tickets are going fast? I'm a college student and independent singer/ songwriter myself, so I'm not sure I can swing the plane tickets for me and my friend, but if this is in fact the last time Joni will be performing, I'll do all I can to get there (wish we could get a confirmation on whether or not she'll be there and if she's performing). My fear is that by the time we get that info, the tickets might have already sold out. It's an exciting lineup of artists either way. Would love to meet you all, though, and hopefully I'll make it out there for it! Zach http://www.zacharyscotjohnson.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:55:20 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: watch this! NJC But can he play River? [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of We Wish You A Merry Christmas.wmv] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:05:42 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: imagery - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Chalk Mark In A Rain Storm > > > These words... they come with action in my mind every time I read them. > It's on the pavement, drawn with thick children's chalk, white, running > in the > water, fading away. Makes me think of 'Mary Poppins': Chim chim-e-ney, chim chim-e-ney Chim chim chir-roo I draws what I likes And I likes what I drew Today I'm a screever And as you can see A screever's an artist Of 'ighest degree Bert E. in Seattle (not Burlington Bertie from Bow) "....popping in and out of chalk pavement pictures, consorting with race horse persons...fox hunting...yes, well i don't mind that so much but at any rate, it's tradition! But tea parties on the ceiling! I ask you, having tea parties on the ceiling?!!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:26:23 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute concert - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" > I'm still trying to imagine > 1. Why a Toronto band (the Cowboy Junkies) which is so good with > interpreting other's songs hasn't released a song from Canada's finest > singer-songwriter, and > > 2. Which Joni song would sound great slowly way, way down. Obviously, it > should be a song about murder, abuse, or danger. You know when I saw Cowboy Junkies do an instore concert at Tower Records a few years ago, they signed cds afterwards and I got a chance to say a word or two to them. I was tempted to ask Michael what he thought of Joni as a writer. It seems to me he would appreciate her being a very literate lyricist himself. I didn't ask him though. All I managed to do was burble some thanks for writing such quality stuff and thank Margo for interpreting it all so beautifully. It's hard to imagine a Joni song done in one of the Junkie's laid-back tempos. Even Joni's ballads seem to have a restless energy underlying them. All of those words have to come tumbling out from time to time. I think Margo's voice would be a beautiful instrument to interpret almost any of Joni's songs though. For some reason 'Blue Motel Room' comes to mind. I think Em's suggestion of 'Turbulent Indigo' is a fine idea too. Then that just made me think of 'Sire of Sorrow'. 'Slouching Toward Bethlehem' has an apocalyptic quality to it that Michael might be able to riff on. Or maybe they could make up hybrids: Murder Tonight Down South Between the Trailers Miles of Aisles From Our Home Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Jane Southern Rainy Night House or something like that.... Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:38:23 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? Dear Joniamigos: Trying to get my mind off the war, and trying to tone down my JMOCD which is in total over-drive because of the UPCOMING JONIFEST AT CARNEGIE HALL (I'M SO EXCITED!), I was reading the news today and saw this. I'm sharing it with you because I thought it was pretty funny, and because I CAN'T BELIEVE there are no quotes from Smurf or Catherine, the great wits and wordsmiths of the JMDL. The author of this book missed some good ones. He or she will have to do a second edition. With a wink and a smile, Patti P. - ------------------- Sharp-Tongued Answers Worth Repeating December 16, 2005 By ROB KYFF A celebrated opera diva once presented a recital for President Calvin Coolidge and his guests at the White House. Due to a case of bad nerves, the singer's performance was, to put it mildly, dreadful. During the performance, someone whispered into Coolidge's ear, "What do you think of the singer's execution?" The President whispered back, "I'm all for it." This is one of the many delightful anecdotes in Mardy Grothe's new book, "Viva la Repartee - Clever Comebacks and Witty Retorts from History's Great Wits and Wordsmiths" (HarperCollins, $14.95). If you've ever delivered a razor-sharp riposte or rebuff - or, like me, thought of just the right reply five minutes too late - you'll savor this collection. Grothe's sources range from Zsa Zsa Gabor (who, when asked how many husbands she'd had, replied "You mean apart from my own?") to Mohandas Gandhi (who, when asked what he thought of Western Civilization, replied, "I think it would be a good idea.") Here's a sampling from this Grothe industry: Writer Alexander Woolcott, accepting the agonizing realization that his old and ailing cat would have to be put to sleep, told Dorothy Parker, "I don't have the faintest idea how to go about it." Parker replied with this ice pick: "Try curiosity." In 1942, actress Ilka Chase, who had just written her autobiography, "Past Imperfect," received this barb from an actor: "I thought your book was wonderful. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it. By the way, who wrote it for you?" Chase replied, "I'm so glad you liked it. By the way, who read it to you?" When the sexy American actress Jean Harlow repeatedly mispronounced the first name of Lady Margot Asquith as "Mar-gut," Asquith sweetly corrected her with, "My dear, the `t' is silent, as in `Harlow.'" When a reporter for the London newspaper The Sun asked Noel Coward, "Have you anything to say to the Sun?" Coward replied, "Shine." During a debate, Stephen A. Douglas accused Abraham Lincoln of being "two-faced." The craggy Lincoln turned to the crowd and asked, "If I had two faces, do you think I'd be wearing this one?" When a French customs inspector examined Alfred Hitchcock's passport and saw the listed occupation as "producer," he asked, "What do you produce?" Hitchcock replied, "Gooseflesh." - ----- Rob Kyff is a teacher and writer in West Hartford. Write to him in care of The Courant, Features Department, 285 Broad St., Hartford, CT 06115, or by e-mail at WordGuy@aol.com. - ----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:23:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Joni Tribute concert The admin of the Cowboy Junkies message board said this about the Junkies at Carnegie Hall on Feb 1: >Mike, Margo, Jeff and Jaro are planning on doing the Joni Mitchell benefit. They will be performing one song.> Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:46:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? - --- Patti Parlette wrote: I was reading the news today and saw > this. I'm sharing it > with you because I thought it was pretty funny, and > because I CAN'T BELIEVE > there are no quotes from Smurf or Catherine, the > great wits and wordsmiths > of the JMDL. It's very simple. I'm not dead yet. (but I can't speak for Smurf.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:24:18 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: once upon a mattress - on tv this weekend - njc sunday night, a new production of one of my favorite musicals is on tv (abc). here's a link to the new york times review: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/arts/television/16matt.html this was originally on broadway and filmed for tv in 1964 (in black and white) with carol burnett as the young princess winnifred (the story is based on 'the princess and the pea') it's a hysterical, brilliant performance; i remember seeing it once when i was younger, and then got to know the show very well later on. so one time, when roberto holliston was visiting, we went to the museum of tv and radio and watched it again, and adored it. this time, carol burnett is playing the queen aggravain and tracey ullman is winnifred, with tom smothers (a brilliant casting choice) as the mute king sextimus, and dreamy matthew morrison, who was just on broadway in 'a light in the piazza', as the male ingenue. it's directed by kathleen marshall, who i find to be the most successful of the current broadway directors. i'll be watching. the review mentions that mattress was filmed in color in 1972, with burnett and some others reprising their roles, but bernadette peters as lady larken (the female ingenue). guess i'll be heading up to the museum of tv and radio again. patrick np - silence ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:45:58 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: For Free - Extra Verse Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before. I was just watching the > video, Come In From The Cold. When Joni sings, For Free at the piano, > she adds an extra verse. > > "Playing like a fallen angel. > Playing like a rising star. > Playing for a hat full of nothing > to the honking of the cars." Yes, she was adding this verse in her live shows, not sure when she started, the early 80's or sooner. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:49:41 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? Patti Parlette wrote: > During a debate, Stephen A. Douglas accused Abraham Lincoln of being > "two-faced." The craggy Lincoln turned to the crowd and asked, "If I had two > faces, do you think I'd be wearing this one?" The other one I like from Abe; a man asked him how long a man's legs should be. "Long enough to reach the ground", he said. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:51:21 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Answer: It's comin' on Christmas Question: What's your favorite holiday sexual experience? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:05:22 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Tribute concert Are any of the Euro jonifans thinking of making the journey for this? I have not read hte list in a week and a half, been a bit busy with the new job. So this morning i wake up with a birthday hangover and see all these excited emails about the possibility of Joni making an appearance. Even if she does not the lineup is great (I just love Laurie Anderson). So i have been scratching my head thinking how could i make it work. THe flights are not as expensive as i thought, but my credit card leapt out of wallet and ran away at the very thought of it:-) If i could find somewhere relatively inexpensive to stay, though, it might just happen. A couple of days in New York - not bad with or without Jonimusic. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:30:29 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: For Free - Extra Verse Oops! That's right, Bob. It was Refuge. I get them mixed up because they are on the same disc. Mark in Sydney. On 18/12/2005, at 2:48 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Well, if you saw this clip on the "Come In From the Cold" video, > you've got a real rarity. I've only seen it on Refuge Of the Roads... > :~) > > Mark-Leon Thorne wrote:I'm not sure if this > has been discussed before. I was just watching the >> video, Come In From The Cold. When Joni sings, For Free at the piano, >> she adds an extra verse. I've never heard these lyrics before. They >> are >> quite beautiful. She also changes the line about having 16 gentlemen >> to >> an "entourage". >> >> Here is the extra verse: >> >> "Playing like a fallen angel. >> Playing like a rising star. >> Playing for a hat full of nothing >> to the honking of the cars." >> >> Mark in Sydney. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:01:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: The late John Spencer, njc He was an actor. Last season on "The West Wing", he was Leo McGarry, the Chief of Staff. This season, he was running for VP. I guess the Santos/McGarry ticket will have to change but who could fill John Spencer's shoes? Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:02:18 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... Of course...it wouldn['t be right without you there les.. Jenny.. David > > >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. > > >> > > >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) > > >> > > >>Okay... > > >> > > >>Julius and Gail > > >> > > >>Marianne > > >> > > >>Bree > > >> > > >>Laura > > >> > > >>Gary > > >> > > >>Pearl > > >> > > >>Patty P. and guests > > >> > > >>Em > > >> > > >>Jack > > >> > > >>Rosie > > >> > > >>Alison > > >> > > >>Patrick > > >> > > >>Kaye > > > > >> > > >> > > >>....and you know there may be more..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:10:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: once upon a mattress - on tv this weekend - njc Once Upon A Mattress was Carol's path to stardom if I'm not mistaken. A fun show, but it suffers from a really weak opening number ("We Have An Opening For A Princess"). I was in a production of it way back when, around 1980 at Meredith College in Raleigh. With an F and an R and an E and a D & an F-R-E-D Fred! I remember my Dad letting us all stay up and watch it on TV when it came on. Bob NP: Cowboy Junkies, "Lay It Down" PS: Howdy Roberto! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:31:46 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: For Free - Extra Verse On the "Woman of Heart and Mind" DVD there's video of Joni performing this song during the Sixties. Therein she sings "I've got a black limousine and two white gentlemen." She's changed that line a lot over the years...at no extra charge. :-) - -Julius In a message dated 12/17/05 1:30:47 AM, mark-leon@iinet.net.au writes: > She also changes the line about having 16 gentlemen to > an "entourage". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:41:04 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Answer: It's comin' on Christmas ROTFLMAO! You writing comedy now, too, Corey? Thanks. - -Julius In a message dated 12/17/05 1:53:03 PM, guitarzan@direcpc.com writes: > Question: What's your favorite holiday sexual experience? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:49:41 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... and now.. Ashara Maggie >Of course...it wouldn['t be right without you there > >les.. > > >Jenny.. > >David > >> > >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. >> > >> >> > >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) >> > >> >> > >>Okay... >> > >> >> > >>Julius and Gail >> > >> >> > >>Marianne >> > >> >> > >>Bree >> > >> >> > >>Laura >> > >> >> > >>Gary >> > >> >> > >>Pearl >> > >> >> > >>Patty P. and guests >> > >> >> > >>Em >> > >> >> > >>Jack >> > >> >> > >>Rosie >> > >> >> > >>Alison >> > >> >> > >>Patrick >> > >> >> > >>Kaye >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>....and you know there may be more..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:56:13 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... AND BOB...I thought come hell or high water you'd be there.. (I was beginning to worry though..because no word from you) this is just too much!! >and now.. > >Ashara > >Maggie > > > >>Of course...it wouldn't['t be right without you there >> >>les.. >> >> >>Jenny.. >> >>David >> >>> > >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. >>> > >> >>> > >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) >>> > >> >>> > >>Okay... >>> > >> >>> > >>Julius and Gail >>> > >> >>> > >>Marianne >>> > >> >>> > >>Bree >>> > >> >>> > >>Laura >>> > >> >>> > >>Gary >>> > >> >>> > >>Pearl >>> > >> >>> > >>Patty P. and guests >>> > >> >>> > >>Em >>> > >> >>> > >>Jack >>> > >> >>> > >>Rosie >>> > >> >>> > >>Alison >>> > >> >>> > >>Patrick >>> > >> >>> > >>Kaye >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>....and you know there may be more..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:50:30 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... I think that Les is going, so is Michael Paz, Ashara,Pearl scjoniguy Bob, Gary Zack, Ashara and Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:31:04 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Arlo Guthrie and Friends featuring Willie Nelson...njc Live webcast from the stages of Tipitina's in New Orleans 7PM Central Time _http://www.tipitinas.com/content/webcast/default.asp_ (http://www.tipitinas.com/content/webcast/default.asp) Arlo Guthrie and Friends featuring Willie Nelson and Guy Davis our own Michael Paz managing the tour... Arlo taking the stage now...11:30pm ET ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: njc, but where are Smurf and Catherine? - --- Randy wrote: > The other one I like from Abe; a man asked him how > long a man's legs > should be. "Long enough to reach the ground", he > said. My absolute favorite Abe Lincoln quip happened when someone asked him how old Catherine McKay was. "Old enough to know bitter," he replied. - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lady Isadora Subject: Re: In a "Hissing" Mood/Assorted Joni comments >JMDL Digest Thursday, December 15 2005 Volume 2005 : >Number 461 >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:47:19 +0000 >From: "Sherelle Smith" >Subject: In a "Hissing" Mood >Hi all, >Thanks Lady Isodora for a wonderful post on "Don't >Interrupt The Sorrow"! Glad you enjoyed it, whichever one it was! :-) >I've been listening to "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" all >week on my M:Robe >(I-Pod) while commuting to work. It started with this >irresistable urge to >hear "The Drums of Barundi" in "The Jungle Line". I like >that she put that >song first because it always puts me in the mood for the >content of the >whole CD. I love "The Jungle Line" too--- great poetic imagery, mysterious melody, and oh, those pounding drums-- one of those songs I like to listen to several times in a row, sometimes, because I feel it so much in my body, as well as in my mind-- but it's the SECOND song on my copy of the album! ;-) Fave lyrics: "Those cannibals of shuck and jive Will eat a working girl like her alive" Also like the poppy and drooling imagery, but not for the reasons that might sound like!! NOT my poison of choice, ahem. I'd sooner drink 17 glasses of Liebfraumilch, heh. Well, er, not. One or two would be pleasant... :-) >The cover art is so great and fits right into the theme of >what >Joni is singing about throughout the CD. I remember the >album cover had >raised the image of the snake so you could actually feel it. >(I think) I use my CD copy now, and haven't gotten the LP out for ages-- but I think so too. I like the song "Shades of Scarlett Conquering", BTW, but didn't Joni originally misspell it as "Scarlet" on the LP? As I believe she got some French wrong in "Free Man in Paris" on *Court and Spark*, tsk, tsk, unless my memory fails... ;-) >...one of my favorites on the >CD is "Edith and the Kingpin" who as many already have >heard me say, is Omar >Shariff in my mind... Interesting. This is actually one of the songs I didn't care for much when the album first came out, I have to admit. There are some well-crafted lyrics in it-- "what does that hand desire", etc.-- but at the time I found the song and its characters rather depressing. They weren't people I felt I'd be interested in knowing personally, as I would some of the folks in "The Jungle Line" or "Shades of Scarlett, or even "Roses Blue"... ha, now THAT'S a song I should cover... it's one of my faves, even though I've felt it's a bit overly alarmist with regards to head-trippy priestesses, LOL. Anyway, with "Hissing..." I guess I hadn't fully shifted gears yet from Joni in more magical mode (don't know how else to put it at the mo, but it's STILL my fave of her "modes", so I probably STILL haven't shifted out of it!), as she was to my ear and in my mind on her first four albums especially. I seem to recall Joni had, amazingly enough, on rare occasions gotten some criticism from some reviewer(s), though I can't recall which one or ones, about being too "precious" or "Fairy Princess" or whatever. Those sure aren't the terms *I'd* use-- I dearly love those most enchanting earliest songs!! And I've loved many others since, of course, but still... past a certain point, it almost did seem as if she were reacting to such reviews by being determined to pick song subjects of greater "realism", with lots of ultra-modern and mundane rather than always as ageless or timeless-seeming imagery... and for awhile I found myself less consistently drawn to each and every song at times. I do recall an interviewer (maybe "Strolling Bone", aka "Somersaulting Rock"? t.h.) around the time of "Hissing..." asking Joni "What happened to the melodies?" I hate to say it, but I was sometimes wondering that very thing myself. Her melodies were still good, but not as consistently absolutely stunning as formerly, I didn't always think. Her lyric lines often seemed to become much more "wordy" (albeit certainly not in a bad way-- I LOVE words, cantcha tell??), and that seemed to lead to sometimes to more "talky"-sounding melodic lines. My best friend from college, also a singer and guitarist, actually quit buying Joni's albums after "For the Roses" or "Court and Spark", believe it or not! She just didn't like the changes in direction. I couldn't really understand her going to THAT extreme-- I always grabbed every Joni album the second it hit the stores, since Joni always was and still is greatly interesting to me, even if I do still miss the early "magical" stuff. ;-) Hey, true artists change and evolve. It's natural. Hmmm, but come to think of it, I remember one reviewer remarking rather snidely one year that Joni tended to favor physical description as if it were always profound, or something to that gist. Hmph. She IS an artist, after all, and I for one love her physical imagery overall. She paints extremely vivid word pictures, and as far as I'm concerned, they're pretty consistently profound, one way or the other. >Suave, handsome, and dangerous. This morning, I >wondered what Edith would actually look like...I have no >preconceived >conception of who she could be. Who comes to mind for >you? If you had to >cast roles for Edith and the Kingpin, who would play their >parts? Ummmm... how about-- Johnny Depp and myself? Tee hee... >Omar >Shariff definitely is my "Kingpin"! Yes, actually, I can really see Omar in that role... "I Had a Kingpin" could be the alternate title, LOL... Isadora http://www.ladyisadora.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:31:27 +0800 From: Jim Ayson Subject: Re: For Free - Extra Verse On 12/18/05, JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > On the "Woman of Heart and Mind" DVD there's video of Joni performing this > song during the Sixties. Therein she sings "I've got a black limousine and two > white gentlemen." She's changed that line a lot over the years...at no > extra charge. :-) She does change things over the years... in Big Yellow Taxi she used to charge only a dollar and half for admission to the tree museum - a few years later she upped the price to twenty-five bucks :-) In Hejira it was originally strains of Benny Goodman being heard over the trees (though it was Wayne Shorter noodling in the background) then in the live performance on Shadows and Light she changed this lyric to Michael Brecker... - - jim in manila ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #464 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)