From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #426 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, November 14 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 426 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: what was just a false alarm? [Nuriel Tobias ] NJC Re: what was just a false alarm? [Bob Muller ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Patti Witten ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Patti Witten ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Smurf ] fancy a chat? [Box of Paints ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Bob Muller ] Digital image of paintings anyone? [Box of Paints ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Bob Muller ] Re: what was just a false alarm? -- njc [Smurf ] Re: what was just a false alarm? -- njc [Em ] Come up to my kitchen w/ Joni and Bonnie ["Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? Em, i think that the inner drive or urge to fly is a false alarm. Nuri Em wrote: so after all these times listening to Amelia and getting inot different and fascinating layers of meaning, I realize I still don't realize *what* wasa false alarm. It. But what? Can someone enlighten me? And please forgive me for not searching the archives first...what I really love is the back and forth that we have together sometimes on here, and if I just found the answer in the archives, I wouldn't have that. :) thx! Reason I have Amelia on the brain is its heavy rotation in my car, as its part of a fave iTunes playlist that I burned. And that I may only burn one or 2 more times before it tells me NO Em < - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: what was just a false alarm? < I have got a lot on my plate at the moment including a possible short tout with Arlo Guthrie from Chicago Dec. 5 to New Orleans Dec 17. Keep yo fingas crossed.> Would you be in the band or doing sound or what? In any regard, keeping fingers crossed and keep us posted. Bob NP: Damien Rice, "Older Chests" I have got a lot on my plate at the moment including a possible short tout with Arlo Guthrie from Chicago Dec. 5 to New Orleans Dec 17. Keep yo fingas crossed. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:47:12 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? Oops, I hit send to soon. It was just a false alarm! I think Amelia is about more than love. It may be about art, too, human endeavor, the old struggle of flesh and spirit. A woman's dream to fly is risky, courageous. Link this to the utter disappearance of Amelia. She says, "Maybe I9ve never really loved," perhaps realizing that it wasn't love she searched for, but ascension. Love represents ascension (flying to the sun) but it falls short? Pair this with the Icarus story, which tells us flight is foolish, unattainable, and it will kill you. What happened to Amelia? Did she attain ascension or merely run out of fuel and crash into the ocean without a trace? These are the artists options then. Settle for mortal love with its brief, and ultimately heartbreaking passions, or continue to rise, alone, unknown and unknowable, perhaps to Amelia's fate. Hey, where's my Phd? Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:33:31 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? The "signs" were false alarms for meaning, verse by verse: Six white vapor trails/ the hexagram of the heavens a song so wild and blue / picture-post-card-charms Where some have found their paradise / Others just come to harm [The promise of love in this verse] I wish that he was here tonight It9s so hard to obey / His sad request of me to kindly stay away The dream to fly / Like Icarus ascending / On beautiful foolish arms A beautifully written, performed and timeless song. Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:34:20 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? - --- Mark wrote: > I've > always thought that > flight was a recurring image with definite meaning > for Joni. Along with this thought: "It seems live you've gotta give up Such a piece of your soul when you give up the chase" - --Smurf __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:28:35 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: fancy a chat? - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? And to put an even finer point on it, not merely flight, but flying too high, attempting to over-reach other's demands, requests, and restrictions on you. (Flying too high, too close to the sun which melted the wax holding Icarus' wings together). Sounds like a minor point but I think it significant because I feel that Joni is using the comparison to (falsely) imply that Earhart attempted something that was beyond her station as a woman, and was punished for it. Bob NP: Los Lobos, "What In The World" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:02:08 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Digital image of paintings anyone? Hello All I'm doing a little project and I was wondering if anyone has any photos of Joni Mitchell's paintings and can you send them to me offlist? Not that bothered about the quality but of course the better the quality the better! Much Joni Jamie Zoob - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:21:28 -0600 From: djp Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? I love the dream image at the end: 747s over geometric farms. I've always loved the sense it gave me of solid, aloof, comprehensive, perspective on vast landscapes. (Of course, and again, a false alarm) As I was singing this in the shower yesterday, I was struck by the formal change of perspective from the first to the last verse - from looking up at the jets to looking down from the jets. Then I realized that nowhere do the lyrics really specify the perspective of the last vision. She's not really looking down, she's embodying the whole scene. anyway... I also find this song impossible to sing (not that that stops me). So much of the depth is in the instrumentals. djp At 01:59 PM 11/12/2005, Mark Scott wrote: > up in the cold, airless atmosphere still feeling empty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:36:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? That's also what I was attempting to say, Patti - it's a song layered with complexities. It's like Joni is saying to Amelia (sarcastically) "How dare you try and succeed in the 'man's world' of long distance aviation..." just as I'm sure she was "warned and scorned" for trying to succeed in the 'man's world' of rock and jazz. Bob NP: The Stanford University Marching Band, "Woodstock" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? -- njc It. __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? -- njc !GOAL! ;) - --- Smurf wrote: > It. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:49:49 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Come up to my kitchen w/ Joni and Bonnie Bon soir, Joni Lovers! I've been crazy busy lately but have been wanting to write and tell you two little stories about my kitchen. But first, please let me congratulate Azeem and Fiona on the birth of Amelia! Felicitations! How cool for her to come on Joni's birthday! Remembering the birth of my own first child when I went into "false labor" more than once, I have to wonder, Azeem, if you wondered that day, being a whole month early, if it was a "false alarm?" In any case, enjoy your new blessing, and I know that you will be a papa who teaches her the deeper meaning. Hugs to all three of you! And make sure to touch the back of her ear lobes....someone once told me that the softest thing in the world is the back of a baby's ear lobes. I think it is true. Now, back to the kitchen. With my kids now out of the house, my Joni Room seems to be spilling out into other areas. Recently I noticed a blank space on my kitchen wall, and decided that my kitchen needed some Joni-ing up, so I hung the framed photograph entitled "Joni and Julius in the Elevator in SF on Earth Day 2005". It's nice having Joni and Julius beaming out at me as I cook up my best recipes. Anyway, recently my son Michael stopped by, and noticed the picture. He said: "MOM! Why do you have a picture of Joni and "some random person" in your kitchen?" LOL! 1) I love it that he now refers to Joni as "Joni", instead of "Joni Mitchell." It shows familiarity and respect, to my heart and mind. And, 2) it cracked me up that he called Julius "some random person". I told Julius and he laughed, too. It made me think of the lyrics "I'm travelling in some vehicle, I'm sitting in some cafe..." I'm having "some random person" on my kitchen wall! I reminded Michael that Julius is not just "some random person" -- that we have become friends through the JMDL, but I'm not sure he "got it". He just shook his head, probably thinking: "There goes Mom with those Joni internet people again!" And my other kitchen story: this weekend some friends and I spent many many hours tearing down the very ugly wallpaper I have lived with for more years than I care to tell. We celebrated Joni's and Bonnie's birthdays with lots of their music, boogeying and scraping away happily. (I have to say that Bonnie's music seems to be more conducive to wallpaper-ripping than Joni's.) So now, this Sunday evening, my kitchen is a mess w/ wallpaper scraps everywhere and yet-to-be primed-and-painted stark white walls, but I'm happy to have finally attacked it. And I got to wondering, and wanted to ask you all: do you know where I can buy Joni Mitchell wallpaper? LOL.. only kidding, of course -- I'm not *that* JMOCDed. But then it then came to pass, like lightening striking from above, electric flash -- the answer came to me. Of course! DUH!!! Yellow checkers for the kitchen! Hey, I just might do it! I was thinking of Van Gogh blues and yellows anyway -- les couleurs de la Provence -- so the yellow checkers just might work. And I could get a nice framed print of Van Gogh's "Cafe at Arles" (is that the name of the one I'm thinking of?) and then maybe put "Turbulent Indigo" in a frame next to it. Ah, ideas are starting to come to me, finally. Any more Joni decorating tips would certainly be welcomed. I wish you all a great week with lots of Joni moments and whatever else makes your hearts sing. Love, Patti P. P.S. I tried to purchase tickets for Bonnie Raitt at Foxwoods Casino in CT the day they went on sale at 10 a.m. I didn't get to the on-line ticket site until 10:04 a.m. (don't you hate it when you have to *work* at the workplace?) and there were no tickets left! Zut for me, but brava for Bonnie! You go, girl! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:27:58 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Joni Mention on Tonight's Desperate Housewives OK, so I watch it sometimes..... There was just a Joni mention on "Desperate Housewives." Susan goes to see her ex-boyfriend, Mike and included with the dialogue was a sentence something to the effect: "It's a good thing you'd didn't take my Joni Mitchell CDs or I'd have to club you to death." The episode is called "Color and Light" (November 13, 2005) Anybody else see this, and can you remember this better than I did? It went by awfully fast, and I almost missed it. Best regards, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:07:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni Mention on Tonight's Desperate Housewives Gary Z wrote: > OK, so I watch it sometimes..... Yeah, right. You watch it every week, even those damn reruns, just like I do :) > > There was just a Joni mention on "Desperate Housewives." > > Susan goes to see her ex-boyfriend, Mike and included with the dialogue > was a sentence something to the effect: "It's a good thing you'd didn't > take my Joni Mitchell CDs or I'd have to club you to death." > > The episode is called "Color and Light" (November 13, 2005) > > Anybody else see this, and can you remember this better than I did? You got it word for word, Gary. How wonderful to know that after 40 years Joni is still ultra hip! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:53:49 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: Come up to my kitchen w/ Bonnie NJC > I tried to purchase tickets for Bonnie Raitt > at Foxwoods Casino in CT > the day they went on sale at 10 a.m. I didn't get > to the on-line ticket > site until 10:04 a.m. (don't you hate it when you > have to *work* at the > workplace?) and there were no tickets left! Zut for > me, but brava for > Bonnie! You go, girl! > Patti~ Speaking of buying Bonnie Raitt tickets, I have a little story. When UNC's Memorial Hall reopened after many years of construction, Bonnie Raitt is only one of the acts scheduled to perform for the academic year (along with the likes of Tony Bennett, Ralph Stanley, Midori, Los Lobos, etc.). The first day that the tickets were on sale, I came one hour early and was shocked to see a long queque. I was not intending to buy a Bonnie Raitt ticket at all but while waiting in line, people next to each other talked and almost all of them were talking about being there to buy Bonnie's ticket! Later in the afternoon, a sign said that tickets to Bonnie's concert was sold out! I only own 2 albums of Bonnie in the past but those people who were talking in the morning were discussing her albums! Maybe next time she hits town, I'll be first in line. Joseph in Chapel Hill (thought that the separate concerts of Marian McPartland and Youssou N'Dour have been the best so far from the 6 he has seen). ___________________________________________________________________________ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Tilichargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #426 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)