From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #424 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 12 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 424 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Italian Jazz Group covers Joni [DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi ] acoustic ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Thank you Catherine ["Ric Robinson" ] For Neil Young fans njc - Toronto Star article [Catherine McKay ] Lindsey Graham: incredible jerk njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: For Free [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: For Free [Catherine McKay ] what was just a false alarm? [Em ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Box of Paints ] Re: We're in the semi-finals (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: what was just a false alarm? ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: Arrested Development--njc [Bob Muller ] RE: Arrested Development--njc ["hell" ] RE: We're in the semi-finals (njc) ["hell" ] RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] "all the good things that you are. . ." njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Bob Muller ] Re: what was just a false alarm? [Em ] Re: We're in the semi-finals (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: what was just a false alarm? ["Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Italian Jazz Group covers Joni Maria Pia De Vito (vocals), Danilo Rea (piano), Enzo Pietropaoli (double bass) and Aldo Romano (drums) recorded an album recently released in Italy called "So Right" ( www.CamJazz.com). Seven of the twelve songs are Joni's covers ( Amelia, All I Want, God Must be a Boogie Man, River, Harlem in Havana, Woodstock, A Case of You). Maria Pia is a fine jazz singer and she sounds wonderful on all the 5 tracks that she cowrote with her fellows. She also sounds very good on most Joni's covers ( it's always hard to compete with Joni's singing ). All musicians do a very good job on Joni's tracks and the result is quite interesting. Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:28:18 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Italian Jazz Group covers Joni Hi Fabio, I picked up on this CD as soon as it came out - you are right, it is quite excellent, and the folks at Cam Jazz got it to me even quicker than a lot of US shippers would have. I am always excited at the fact that Europeans are also aware of Joni's 90's work. The Harlem in Havana cover thrills me the most. And you're right, it's a challenge for any singer to compete with Joni's vocals which is why I always appreciate when a band or vocalist takes their interpretation to a different place than Joni did. The fact that 95% of Joni covers these days are coming from the world of jazz should make Joni a happy camper. 2005 has been a HUGE year for Joni covers. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Kentucky Avenue" (going out to my friend Les Ross who is a fan of this song) DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi wrote: Maria Pia De Vito (vocals), Danilo Rea (piano), Enzo Pietropaoli (double bass) and Aldo Romano (drums) recorded an album recently released in Italy called "So Right" ( www.CamJazz.com). Seven of the twelve songs are Joni's covers ( Amelia, All I Want, God Must be a Boogie Man, River, Harlem in Havana, Woodstock, A Case of You). Maria Pia is a fine jazz singer and she sounds wonderful on all the 5 tracks that she cowrote with her fellows. She also sounds very good on most Joni's covers ( it's always hard to compete with Joni's singing ). All musicians do a very good job on Joni's tracks and the result is quite interesting. Fabio - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: acoustic I hope you got to see Cyndi Lauper in concert this morning on The Today Show. Among other songs, she performed True Colors on the dulcimer. They are from her recent Body Acoustic CD. I just got Jackson Browne's new CD Solo and Acoustic which is also wonderful, just him playing and singing his songs on guitar and piano. I'd gladly trade BSN and Travelogue, and maybe throw in TTT for just one more CD from Joni, solo and acoustic....... Wistful Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:15:56 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Thank you Catherine Hague CD arrived this morning, Many thanks, Ric [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Ric.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:19:48 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: For Neil Young fans njc - Toronto Star article Another musical Scorpio birthday. Here's an article from today's Toronto Star. The copy in the paper included a map showing the locations in this story. I've marked this njc because there's no Joni mention, which is a bit disappointing, but there are so many parallels that many of you probably already know about. They're both scorpios. They both had polio as kids. They both started out playing the ukulele. And more. - ----------------------------------------------------- Neil Young: The T.O. years Canada's most influential rocker is 60 today. To celebrate, we've compiled this gentle reminder of where he spent his formative years, Nov. 12, 2005. 02:01 AM JOHN GODDARD STAFF REPORTER Neil Young was conceived, his father always maintained, on the dining room floor of a friend's house during a record snowfall. "I remember the street in Toronto, the wild February blizzard through which only the hardiest moved, on skis, sliding downtown through otherwise empty streets to empty offices," Scott Young recalls in his 1984 memoir, Neil and Me. Scott would later become one of Canada's best-known journalists  a featured columnist for The Globe and Mail, and intermission host on the country's most popular television show, Hockey Night in Canada. On Feb.4, 1945, when the storm hit, he was a sub-lieutenant in the Navy on home leave. He, his wife Rassy and their 3-year-old son Bob were visiting the home of Ian and Lola Munro, near Eglinton Ave. and Mount Pleasant Rd. Five inches of snow fell that evening, The Toronto Daily Star reported the next day. After dinner, the Youngs had no choice but to stay over. "A mattress was hauled down to the dining-room floor and shoved against the wall for Rassy and me," Scott recalled. "We were just past our middle 20s and had been apart for most of the previous year ... We tried to be fairly quiet." - - Toronto General Hospital, - - 585 University Ave. Neil entered the world on Nov. 12, 1945, at the Private Patients' Pavilion of Toronto General Hospital, since torn down. "He had a lot of black hair," Scott wrote of his first glimpse of the boy. - - 315 (formerly 335) Brooke Ave. A modest three-bedroom bungalow became the Youngs' first home. A monster home now stands on the site. There, he displayed an early musical affinity. "In his playpen, when the record player or radio was on, he would jig to Dixieland music even before he could stand up by himself," recalled Scott. "His whole body moved to the rhythm." - - Hospital for Sick Children, - - 555 University Ave. In 1951, the family was living 100 kilometres northeast of Toronto in Omemee, then a village of 750 people. Late one night, Scott heard Neil groan painfully in his bed and got up to investigate. "What's the matter, pally?" he asked his son. "My back hurts," the boy replied. That afternoon, the family drove through a lightning storm to Toronto, where a doctor confirmed Neil had polio. For the next several days, he endured excruciating pain and, although he survived, the disease brought him lifelong problems. "I was in and out of hospitals for the two years between After the Gold Rush (1970) and Harvest (1972)," Young once told Rolling Stone magazine. "I have one weak side and all the muscles slipped on me. My discs slipped. I couldn't hold my guitar up ... I wore a brace ... I could only stand up four hours a day ... The doctors were starting to talk about wheelchairs, so I had some discs removed." - - 133 Rose Park Dr. In the summer of 1954, when Neil was 8, the Youngs moved to a handsome red-brick duplex on a quiet street in Moore Park. The boys enrolled at nearby Whitney Public School. The family was seeking a new start. While still in Omemee, Scott had been travelling and carrying on an affair. He had asked for a divorce, then changed his mind. That winter Scott wrote his first novel, The Flood. "And then the flood came," the jacket copy reads. "Martin was to find solace not in his children, but in the person of a married woman." - - 49 Old Orchard Grove From late 1955 to late 1958, the Youngs lived on a rural property east of Toronto in Pickering. Then they moved back to Toronto, to a tidy two-storey brick structure with a front bay window. Neil had just turned 13 and enrolled in Grade 7 at nearby John Wanless Public School. He was also getting into music. Late at night, he would listen to the local Top 40 radio station CHUM 1050 and to other stations picked up from the southern United States. "That's when I really became aware of what was going on," he once told rock journalist and filmmaker Cameron Crowe. "I knew that I wanted to play, that I was into it. `Maybe,' by the Chantels, `Short Fat Fannie,' Elvis Presley, Larry Williams, Chuck Berry, those were the first people I heard. I used to just fall asleep listening to the music. I was a real swinger." And he began to play his first instrument  a plastic ukulele. "The first thing I learned is that three chords are the basis to a lot of songs," he later told British rock journalist Nick Kent, for the 1994 book The Dark Stuff. "It's a blues-based idea. You start in G, go to C, and resolve it all with a D chord ... I basically just taught myself, figuring out as I went along." - - Ciccone's Dining Lounge, - - 601 King St. W. The Youngs often ate together at Ciccone's, now the high-end restaurant Susur. It was also there, in September, 1959, that Scott told his sons that he was moving out for good this time. Bob was 17, Neil not yet 14. During an assignment out west, Scott had fallen in love with a press officer. "Helpless, helpless, helpless," Neil sings in his 1970 childhood reminiscence, with Crosby, Stills and Nash. "His music always had a sort of forlorn and desolate undertone," Rassy once recalled. "At times I would wonder why his face would light up with a sort of joy when he'd play something he'd composed that was so sad it brought tears to my eyes." - - The Night Owl, 102 Avenue Rd. Neil attended Grade 9 at Lawrence Park Collegiate. A year after Scott moved out, Rassy and Neil moved to Winnipeg, where the boy played in high-school bands and developed as a guitarist. After a stint in Fort William, now Thunder Bay, he returned to Toronto in mid-June, 1965, determined to make it big. On almost no money, with notions of failure constantly on his mind, he lived a transient life, moving from apartment to apartment mostly in the Yorkville area. "Well, I'm up in T.O. keeping jive alive," he sings in "Ambulance Blues," on his 1974 On the Beach album, "and out on the corner it's half past five." "That's the beginning of that whole (introspective) side of my music," he told journalist Nick Kent. "I was by myself, just me and my guitar travelling alone, just showing up at these places." Among the many addresses where Young lived, one stands out for its minor moment in rock history: the apartment of folk singer Vicki Taylor, above the Night Owl coffeehouse in Yorkville. She had been living there with John Kay, later famous as lead singer for Steppenwolf and for the hit "Born to be Wild," but he moved out. "A week later I returned to pick up a few odds and ends and met another fellow there ... a singer/songwriter from Winnipeg named Neil Young," Kay writes in his 1994 autobiography, Magic Carpet Ride. "We said hello and talked briefly. He had a guitar, I played him something, and we talked about music." - - The Mynah Bird Club, - - 114 Yorkville Ave. As a promotional gimmick, the owner of the Mynah Bird coffeehouse helped sponsor a band of the same name and, in January 1966, Young replaced the lead guitarist. The singer was Ricky James Matthews, later famous as Rick James for the 1981 hit "Super Freak." "When Neil took his first solo," James once told Rolling Stone, "he was so excited he leaped off the stage, the plug came out, and nobody heard anything." Another sponsor was John Craig Eaton, scion of the Eaton department store family. He lined up gigs at Rosedale house parties and opened an Eaton's account for band members to buy equipment. Things were going well until Motown Records invited the band to record and James was arrested in Detroit for having deserted the U.S. Navy. - - The Cellar Club, - - 169 Avenue Rd. The Mynah Birds disbanded. In early March 1966, Young and bass player Bruce Palmer met at the Cellar jazz and chess club, now a TD bank, to plot their next move. In his 8 1/2-month Toronto interlude, he had not once been able to play one of his own songs to a live audience. "Let's get the hell out of here," Young said, as Palmer recalled in John Einarson's 1992 biography of Young, Don't Be Denied. "What do you mean?" Palmer said. "Sell everything we can and get a car and go to L.A." They sold the equipment Eaton had advanced them and bought a 1953 Pontiac hearse. Three days after arriving in Los Angeles, they helped form Buffalo Springfield. Ten days after that they opened on a tour with the Byrds, the No.1 U.S. band at the time. And three months after that, they opened at Hollywood Bowl for the Rolling Stones. - - The Riverboat, - - 134 Yorkville Ave. While living nearby, Young never came close to performing at the Riverboat, a showcase for major U.S. and Canadian folk acts. In February 1969, however, he returned from California to play a week-long engagement. By then, he had recorded three albums with Buffalo Springfield and had released his first solo album, Neil Young. "He sings with a light, high, near falsetto voice," Toronto Star reviewer Jack Batten wrote approvingly of the show, "with a quaver near the end of dying lines." - - Massey Hall, 178 Victoria St. Tickets sold so fast to Young's homecoming at Massey Hall on Jan. 19, 1971, that a second concert had to be added the same night. The year before, he had released two hit albums: Dij` Vu as part of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young; and After the Gold Rush with Crazy Horse. The "Journey Through the Past" tour that brought him to Massey Hall was to be a series of solo concerts on piano and guitar to help him catch his breath. He was 25 years old. "Rich in emotion," the Star said of the concert. John Craig Eaton got a court order to seize Young's ticket receipts up to the cost of the equipment cashed in five years earlier. "It was the end of my dalliance in trying to help people in showbiz," Eaton said in an interview a few years ago. "I paid the whole shot without question," Young told biographer Einarson. - - Maple Leaf Gardens, - - 60 Carlton St.: On Jan. 15, 1973, building on the success of his 1972 album Harvest, Young played what was then the city's largest concert venue, part of his Time Fades Away tour with the Stray Gators. With that concert, Young became the first Torontonian, other than a religious leader, ever to fill Maple Leaf Gardens to its 18,000-person capacity. Neil Young's recent self-descriptions as a prairie boy are not to be taken literally. "Bury me out on the prairie where the buffalo used to roam," he sings on his latest album Prairie Wind, released in September, "then I won't be far from home." His affinity for the prairies owes to his family heritage  his parents, grandparents and great-grandparents all lived in Manitoba. Young's desire to return there may have been stirred  as he suggests in one song  by his father's death from Alzheimer's in June this year. No matter where he is or where he's going, Neil Young remains a Toronto boy. His life and his artistic expression were shaped here. Happy birthday, Neil. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:04:06 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc Paul McCartney was on an A and E concert show last night. He word a red shirt that said "no land mines." I had heard, in my distant memory, that he stood up against land mines. Thank you Paul. The absurdity of our government, or any government tolerating, accepting , using land mines! THEY WILL, WITHOUT QUESTION , HARM INNOCENT PEOPLE AND ANIMALS. We should have outlawed them and we haven't. Why do people dislike the Americans? Perhaps we could start a list. Say NO to land mines. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:13:40 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Paul McCartney. . land mines, now nuclear, njc And while I am at it.. . . Nuclear warfare, and nuclear energy Should have NEVER been approved, accepted, instituted. Are you are willing to put spent fuel fods in your back yard, in your very back yard? And how about that recycled plutonium stuff (I forgot what it is called, depleted uranium, perhaps) going into bombs to decimate the enemy? It remains in the atmosphere for years later and causes sickness to the innocent. The madness. . . and our governement is a big part of this. And one more thing, If we want other nations to eliminate their nuclear arsenals, we have to eliminate ours. This is one of those things you learn in Kindergarden. KInder gARdEN It is a beautiful day, I am going to paint the barn, or take drugs or something. ; - ) Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:18:12 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni, mack >From the >loudspeaker could hear 'they pave paradise and put up a parking lot." Felt >good, like a friend there waiting for me. Wondered if others felt that way There's nothing like it Mack. XOXO Marianne Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:03:37 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: joni Into CVS pharmacy for sinus pills. Heavy work weekend coming up and grocery shopping done. Thinking of little as I walked into the place. From the loudspeaker could hear 'they pave paradise and put up a parking lot." Felt good, like a friend there waiting for me. Wondered if others felt that way and if Joni sometimes wonders about those who consider her a friend, even from the JMDL. mack _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:07:14 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Lindsey Graham: incredible jerk njc Exactly. Well said, Vince! Jim L'Hommedieu Dayton, OH Vince said, >>NY Times said, Graham would hold people indefinitely without charges, without rights>> to which Vince said, >yeah, Lindsey, lets fight terrorism by running Dachau and not by being Americans> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:02:18 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: 3 faces of Nellie McKay's "Get Away From Me" - NJC What the hell? sonymusicstore.com offers 3 versions of the title, "Get Away From Me". 1. (Explicit) [CD] 2. (Clean) [CD] 3. (Explicit) [CD + DVD DualDisc] I knew Sony did this stuff with rap artists (for Christian-sensitive retailers like Wal-Mart) but... Hmmm. Maybe I should check in their site before I buy a Sony/Columbia disc. There's also an SACD version of Monk's "Straight/No Chaser". I have to find new artists now that I've been "cured" of Bob Dylan. Jim http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/TalentDetails.jsp?talentId=10959 22 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:11:31 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Italian Jazz Group covers Joni Aldo Romano is a premier jazz drummer; he's been playing with all the greats in Europe since the 60s. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:20:00 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: 3 faces of Nellie McKay's "Get Away From Me" - NJC Your reference to "Straight, No Chaser" was most likely a joke, Jim. But there are far better Monk CDs out there, particularly the new one of a recently discovered concert performance with Coltrane from '57. Monk never played better on a recording. LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:26:35 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: We're in the semi-finals (njc) Judy and I found out late last night that our CD, "MEDLEYFYIN'--a unique tribute to Richard Rodgers" is one of 36 from which the final Grammy nominees will be chosen in the "traditional pop vocal" category. The second best thing about this, for me, is that we don't know any of the people who made the selection; it seems to have been based entirely on what's on the disc. Very meaningful to me...more so since others listed include Rod Stewart, Keely Smith, Carly Simon, Tony Bennett. Best thing: it's something Judy and I shared then and share now. We're happy! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:09:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: We're in the semi-finals (njc) Congratulations, David - and thanks for reminding about this disc, I'll pick up a copy for my Dad who is a big Rodgers fan. Happy is good. Bob NP: Tear For Fears, "Mothers Talk" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:24:43 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc American basher wants to know why we should hate us. (part of the blame America first crowd) (dislike...not as harsh as hate...) I'll start the list: oh....where do I begin... we are warmongers.... we are selfish..... we are imperialistic stupid cowboys.... egomaniacal uncultured.... loud.... Christian-Judea nuts..... suv driving gas-guzzling hedonists..... freedom-lovers... But most of all because AMERICA is SUCCESSFUL.... and you know there may be more.... Bree >Why do people dislike the Americans? >Perhaps we could start a list. > > >Say NO to land mines. > >Marianne > >_________________________________________________________________ >Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:34:16 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: We're in the semi-finals (njc) That's fantastic! Happiness is...well... like a facelift. (wondered who said that?) Keep us posted. Bree >Judy and I found out late last night that our CD, "MEDLEYFYIN'--a unique >tribute to Richard Rodgers" is one of 36 from which the final Grammy >nominees >will be chosen in the "traditional pop vocal" category. > >>Best thing: it's something Judy and I shared then and share now. > > We're happy! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:59:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc Subject: Re: For Free - --- Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: Joni managed to > string together 3 colloquialisms in a row - "real", > "good" and "for free". > Holy cow ! (Joni's lyric, not Joni herself). Phil > Rizzuto would have been > proud of her idiomatic logic. > > "He was playing really well, for nothing." > Perfectly formal, but I don't > "buy it" ;~) > > "He was playing real good, for free." Blatant > commercialism ! LOL! I guess if she had said, "playin' real good fer free", (in a cowboy drawl) that would have been even better. N.P. Frank Cosentino 1000 Miles. Frank is Matthew's guitar teacher and a sweetheart of a human being. His style is rock and blues. Check him out at www.frankcosentino.com. I'd love to help Frank sell some CDs. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: what was just a false alarm? so after all these times listening to Amelia and getting inot different and fascinating layers of meaning, I realize I still don't realize *what* wasa false alarm. It. But what? Can someone enlighten me? And please forgive me for not searching the archives first...what I really love is the back and forth that we have together sometimes on here, and if I just found the answer in the archives, I wouldn't have that. :) thx! Reason I have Amelia on the brain is its heavy rotation in my car, as its part of a fave iTunes playlist that I burned. And that I may only burn one or 2 more times before it tells me NO Em < Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? I think it's love... that was just the false alarm. Joni thought it was for real, but really what she was experiencing was the false alarm of her signals telling her it was love... I say this but I can't back it up! Zoob On 12/11/05, Em wrote: > so after all these times listening to Amelia and getting inot different > and fascinating layers of meaning, I realize I still don't realize > *what* wasa false alarm. It. But what? > Can someone enlighten me? > And please forgive me for not searching the archives first...what I > really love is the back and forth that we have together sometimes on > here, and if I just found the answer in the archives, I wouldn't have > that. > :) > thx! > Reason I have Amelia on the brain is its heavy rotation in my car, as > its part of a fave iTunes playlist that I burned. And that I may only > burn one or 2 more times before it tells me NO > Em < - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: We're in the semi-finals (njc) - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Judy and I found out late last night that our CD, > "MEDLEYFYIN'--a unique > tribute to Richard Rodgers" is one of 36 from which > the final Grammy nominees > will be chosen in the "traditional pop vocal" > category. > > The second best thing about this, for me, is that we > don't know any of the > people who made the selection; it seems to have been > based entirely on what's > on the disc. Very meaningful to me...more so since > others listed include Rod > Stewart, Keely Smith, Carly Simon, Tony Bennett. > > Best thing: it's something Judy and I shared then > and share now. > > We're happy! This is wonderful news! I will keep fingers and toes crossed for you! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:59:11 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" > so after all these times listening to Amelia and getting inot different > and fascinating layers of meaning, I realize I still don't realize > *what* wasa false alarm. It. But what? My take: She's at a place in her life where things are confused. She's feeling lost. She's searching for meaning or fulfillment. But everytime she thinks she's onto something, it doesn't pan out, it's just a false alarm. The six jet planes are not a mystical sign or omen. They're just a false alarm. Travelling around, seeing other places doesn't help. Picture postcard charms and where some have found their paradise, others just come to harm. Another false alarm. The love affair she's been in has ended with the man telling her to keep her distance. No permanent happiness, no emotional fulfillment - false alarm. Amelia's quest for fame and achievement ends up with her disappearance and probable death. Like Icarus, she fails to touch the sun. Another false alarm. Joni's own chicken scratching for her immortality has put her up in the cold, airless atmosphere still feeling empty. Maybe she's never really loved. It still doesn't do it. One more false alarm. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:12:41 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? Everything Mark says makes sense. Like Jamie, I tend to hear it as about love--perhaps because it's Joni. This verse particularly stands out for me: And looking down on everything I crashed into his arms Amelia, it was just a false alarm Also: it is the "Cactus Tree" motel that she goes to in order to shower (fresh start) and dream. Can that POSSIBLY be a coincidence? Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:35:30 +0000 From: "J Harney" Subject: Arrested Development--njc This is a plea to the JMDL community to contact the FOX ENTERTAINMENT GROUP, INC., (Tel.: 212-852-7000) or through the website www.newscorp.com to complain about the cancellation of the TV show "Arrested Development." I realize that in the scheme of things a cancelled TV show lacks much importance in most people's lives, however... this show was (IS!) original and inspired and totally hilarious... I like to imagine that Joni would really appreciate its lunacy, that is if she hasn't cottoned to it already. If there's enough hue and cry, maybe, just maybe, Arrested Development can find a home elsewhere... Thanks for letting me vent! Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:58:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Arrested Development--njc Hi Jack, My understanding is that Fox hasn't cancelled the show, they've just pulled it from their schedule for the rest of November for Sweeps month. But the writing is on the wall...they've cut the production order from 22 episodes to 13. I've tried to watch this show (due to a co-worker who loves it and demanded that I watch it) and after 3 episodes and not laughing one time, I gave it up. Unfortunately, with TV shows as in music, quality is never considered, only ratings/sales/dollars matter. Sometimes the good stuff makes it through, all too often the crowd-pleasing lowest denominator crud is what sticks. If you like the show, I hope that it gets a reprieve. Maybe another network will pick it up, that wouldn't be unprecedented either. Bob NP: The Cure, "Signal To Noise" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:55:20 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Arrested Development--njc Jack wrote: > I realize that in the scheme of things a > cancelled TV show lacks much importance in most > people's lives, however... this show was (IS!) original > and inspired and totally hilarious... I like to imagine > that Joni would really appreciate its lunacy, that is > if she hasn't cottoned to it already. If there's enough > hue and cry, maybe, just maybe, Arrested Development > can find a home elsewhere... Thanks for letting me vent! This is sad news. Arrested Development is one of my favourite shows, although it's not on air in NZ right now. I'd rather have one episode of AD, than a million episodes of "The Bachelor", "The Bachelorette", or "I was a big loser on the Bachelor, so I'm embarassing myself on another show".... I hope the executives at FOX see sense and keep it going. Hell ___________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:56:59 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: RE: We're in the semi-finals (njc) David wrote: > Judy and I found out late last night that our CD, "MEDLEYFYIN'--a > unique tribute to Richard Rodgers" is one of 36 from which the final > Grammy nominees will be chosen in the "traditional pop vocal" category. > > The second best thing about this, for me, is that we don't know > any of the people who made the selection; it seems to have been based > entirely on what's on the disc. Very meaningful to me...more so since > others listed include Rod Stewart, Keely Smith, Carly Simon, Tony Bennett. > > Best thing: it's something Judy and I shared then and share now. This is wonderful news! Fingers and toes are crossed down-under.... Hell ___________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:50:22 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc Beautifully said, Bob. - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Bob Muller To: Bree Mcdonough , treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Paul McCartney. . land mines, njc Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:59:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? thanks Michael, Mark and Jamie - for your input. Actually everything you all said makes sense, and from what you said, and from a gut feeling I had earlier (and it pains me greatly to realize) I think I now suppose the "false alarm" was the fleeting notion that she was free. That she "flew" or was otherwise "free'. It wasn't true; just seemed like it *might* was gonna happen. (like a badly timed orgasm almost) It was just a false alarm that she shook off earthly frustrations. By flight or by travel or by music. I find it tragic. But, you know, as humans, so few things are *perfectly* satisfying - especially once you're an adult. Things can be mighty groovy, and yet you're not free of the earth. Not like when you were a kid and could "break on through" and have moments of perfect joy. Just some thoughts..... But I think the "it was just a false alarm" line now strikes me as tragic. "I almost flew". Gotta be frustrating. I can see how the traveling would be healing. But not "easy" healing. Hard, abrasive healing. Damn, now Amelia's too sad to listen to! and not namby pamby sad (that was for you Bob) but gut wrenching to the point of desperate sarcasm sad. thanks you 3, for playing. I have to listen some more. Amelia is a really strange song. Its more than music, its more than painting. She casts about so much that she makes it 3-d and so it becomes sculpture nearly. Huge, though! Not only the geographical scope gives it this, but the human twisting and turning. lol, I may be full of sh_t! Em - --- Michael Flaherty wrote: > Everything Mark says makes sense. Like Jamie, I tend to > hear it as about love--perhaps because it's Joni. > > This verse particularly stands out for me: > > And looking down on everything > I crashed into his arms > Amelia, it was just a false alarm > > Also: it is the "Cactus Tree" motel that she goes to in > order to shower (fresh start) and dream. Can that > POSSIBLY be a coincidence? > > Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:04:43 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: "all the good things that you are. . ." njc It is also worth the mention re: America. . I mean the US of A. . of all the good things America is. "All the good things that you are. . . " so if anyone wants to begin, please do Well. . okay. . I'll start. . IN America, I am a woman. . and I can own my own home. . and have space and trees. . of which I am eternally great full. lOve Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:16:16 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Thankful, njc Well, in preparation of the thanksgiving holiday I will begin a discussion, between now and Thanksgiving. . of all the things we are grateful for. (but I think it should be spelled "greatful") sorry, perhaps this parallels my last post quite a bit. Anywho. WHAT are some of the things you are greatful for? okay. . I'll start again. . : - ) I am greatful for.. . . 1. this internet community . . . the JMDL! That's YOU I am talking about. (by the way, I am monagamous with you. . I need no other discussion list!. . . : -) 2. I am greatful for the US postal service staff. I think they are doing a GREAT job. . They put up with a lot. . . Thank you to my mail carriers who are extra sweet! Alan and Bernita. I could keep going . . but I would like to give you a chance. XOXO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:21:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? You mean me? Amelia is Joni at her highest level of craft. Since the JMDL started doing the song poll, the WORST that Amelia has done is #3, and it spends lots of time at #1. Ina world of awesome Joni songs, it always rises to the top. It's a perfect gem of a song that few can ever hope to achieve. And what I love about it is when Joni says: "People tell you where they've been, They tell you where to go, But til you've been there YOURSELF You never really know" So that even if you think you understand the song you can only relate to it on your own terms. It's so brilliant on so many levels it blows me away - still, to this day. I'll never forget singing it onstage with Mr. Paz playing flawlessly & beautifully behind me. He played real good for free and made me forgive him for busting my King Cobra all over Ashara's kitchen floor. Bob NP: Heartless Bastards, "Swamp Song" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:24:39 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? yeah, I mean YOU! remember one time you said "namby pamby"? and I sadly don't remember the context. You "namby pamby" sayer, you! Yes, what you say about Amelia surely is all true. Wish I could have heard you and Paz doing the cover. :) see ya, Em - --- Bob Muller wrote: > pamby sad (that > was for you Bob) but gut wrenching to the point of > desperate sarcasm > sad.> > > You mean me? > > Amelia is Joni at her highest level of craft. Since the JMDL started > doing the song poll, the WORST that Amelia has done is #3, and it > spends lots of time at #1. Ina world of awesome Joni songs, it > always rises to the top. It's a perfect gem of a song that few can > ever hope to achieve. > > And what I love about it is when Joni says: > > "People tell you where they've been, > They tell you where to go, > But til you've been there YOURSELF > You never really know" > > So that even if you think you understand the song you can only relate > to it on your own terms. It's so brilliant on so many levels it blows > me away - still, to this day. I'll never forget singing it onstage > with Mr. Paz playing flawlessly & beautifully behind me. He played > real good for free and made me forgive him for busting my King Cobra > all over Ashara's kitchen floor. > > Bob > > NP: Heartless Bastards, "Swamp Song" > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:41:54 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: We're in the semi-finals (njc) This makes me smile like a nut case. I am so happy for you guys David. My best to Judy and you. I need to talk to Naras cause I think I now have enough recording credits to make me a voting member. And those wonderful people sent me $500 to help out. If I were a voting member I would have my way and vote for you guys. Best of luck! Love Paz NP-Upsetter-GFR > Judy and I found out late last night that our CD, "MEDLEYFYIN'--a unique > tribute to Richard Rodgers" is one of 36 from which the final Grammy nominees > will be chosen in the "traditional pop vocal" category. > > The second best thing about this, for me, is that we don't know any of the > people who made the selection; it seems to have been based entirely on what's > on the disc. Very meaningful to me...more so since others listed include Rod > Stewart, Keely Smith, Carly Simon, Tony Bennett. > > Best thing: it's something Judy and I shared then and share now. > > We're happy! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:42:00 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? Even reading all the posts about it gives me the chills. It is perfect in everyway. Bree Ps. Bob...still thinking about your America post will get back to you. >From: Bob Muller >Reply-To: Bob Muller >To: Em , jonilist >Subject: Re: what was just a false alarm? >Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:21:38 -0800 (PST) > >pamby sad (that >was for you Bob) but gut wrenching to the point of >desperate sarcasm >sad.> > >You mean me? > >Amelia is Joni at her highest level of craft. Since the JMDL started doing >the song poll, the WORST that Amelia has done is #3, and it spends lots of >time at #1. Ina world of awesome Joni songs, it always rises to the top. >It's a perfect gem of a song that few can ever hope to achieve. > >And what I love about it is when Joni says: > >"People tell you where they've been, >They tell you where to go, >But til you've been there YOURSELF >You never really know" > >So that even if you think you understand the song you can only relate to it >on your own terms. It's so brilliant on so many levels it blows me away - >still, to this day. I'll never forget singing it onstage with Mr. Paz >playing flawlessly & beautifully behind me. He played real good for free >and made me forgive him for busting my King Cobra all over Ashara's kitchen >floor. > >Bob > >NP: Heartless Bastards, "Swamp Song" > > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! 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