From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #421 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 10 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 421 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: guns NJC [Bruce Eggleston ] RE: Double birthday celebration [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Double Birthday Celebrations [gerime ] Re: Double birthday celebration [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni [LCStanley7@aol.] Re: Stones-Coyote connection ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: NJC Nov 8, Happy Birthday Bonnie Raitt [Jerry Notaro ] Desktop Pic #11 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Janice Jopplin, Jimi Hendrix njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Double birthday celebration ["Kate Bennett" ] RE:back to the fold JC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Nellie McKay - NJC [Smurf ] Re: Jessica Simpson [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Nellie McKay - NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Double birthday celebration ["Ric Robinson" ] Re: Nellie McKay - NJC [Bob Muller ] Sloan Wainwright covers River [Bob Muller ] Re: guns & butter NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: guns & butter NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:35:38 -0700 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: guns NJC I don't want to re-start the guns thread but I do want to thank all of you kind folks who responded both on-and off-list to my autobiographical statement on the subject. Particularly I'd like to thank Bree Mcdonough, Brian Gross, ron, gene, and mags h for their thoughtful and encouraging off-list mails that showed an extra depth of kindness. I normally do not get into these off-topic controversial subjects (religion, race, politics, margarine vs. butter) but made my guns post only to make myself better known to you nice folks, not necessarily to make a statement about guns pro or con. It is very encouraging to find the level of conversation here at such a high plane considering the diversity of folks here. I am amazed and thankful that I have found such a wonderful circle of friends with whom I can share my thoughts and times. You are my tribe. Peace, love and understanding Bonneville Bruce P.S. Nov. 8th is my 55th Birthday and for some decades now I've had a little birthday party in my head with Joni and Bonnie on this day. Whew! For my birthday (Christmas, etc.) I received the most beautiful Fender Stratocaster 12-string guitar, three-tone sunburst, Crafted in Japan, with lovely case for my birthday from my lovely bride of almost 30 years!. Wow! I think Joni would like to play this one. B. B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:52:56 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: RE: Double birthday celebration Hi Azeem. Congratulations. This is excellent news. Love to you, Fiona and Amelia from down under. Mark in Sydney NP exit/delete - David Sylvian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:37:03 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #419 Hi Andy There was a signed litho on ebay but it's from Song's of a Prairie Girl - I know the photograph is from the Hejira era period but we're talking about $200-450 US Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 09/11/05, AB6831@aol.com wrote: > Hello All, > > Does anyone know where I can purchase a Joni signed lithograph? Preferably > from the "Hejira" period? Any information is appreciated!! > > -Andy in Boston > AB6831@aol.com > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:07:42 +0000 From: gerime Subject: Double Birthday Celebrations Azeem,that is amazing news,congratulation. I think this is your first child, so it makes it even more extra special. Gerry in london From: "Azeem" Subject: Double birthday celebration Actually that title is a fib. I have to confess that Jonis birthday was farthest from my mind yesterday, as another Amelia was taking her bow. But it seems somehow fitting that a beautiful little girl born on Jonis birthday should have the name of one of her most perfect songs! Shes a month early, but a good weight, and Fionas very tired and sore but otherwise fine. Cheers from a tired but ecstatic Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:47:16 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Double birthday celebration Congratulations Azeem!!! Amelia will always have a special connection to Joni through her name and birthday. Very cool!!!! Big smile! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:59:43 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni A flaming Repukelican wrote: I thought it was the "left" coast? Not baiting...just having fun. Hi propaganda head, If CA is on the left coast and the upper east coast is left too then what is leftover and tries to be right but is usually wrong is just a bunch of corn and lots of oranges that wish they were blue. Corny. Very corny. Love, Beach Lover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:34:16 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Stones-Coyote connection On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:49:13 -0500 (EST) Catherine McKay wrote: > --- Bryan wrote: >> The Stones song is "Waiting On a Friend" (I think >> that's the title). I had also noticed the similarity >> to Coyote many times. Normally I'd say "Hey, they're all using the same chords", but not this time. The whole sound is the same, plus Joni's chords and tunings are so unique. I never noticed it (but then I don't listen to the Stones much anymore). Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:02:54 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC Nov 8, Happy Birthday Bonnie Raitt And for those of you who get the zine Folkwax there was a great 2 part interview with Bonnie just a few weeks ago. Jerry np: Gino Vannelli - Canto > > Don't have it yet but I did hear some tracks from it this week when I heard > her latest appearance on npr's World Cafe...I think David Dye has the best job > in the world: > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4987267 > > Bonnie sounds great and still looks sexy as hell too. Nice to know that some > of the 70's women are still going strong. > > Bob > > NP: Meat Puppets, "For Free" (no, it's NOT a Joni cover) > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:13:24 -0500 From: "JR" Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni > A flaming Repukelican wrote: > > I thought it was the "left" coast? Not baiting...just having fun. > > Hi propaganda head, > > If CA is on the left coast and the upper east coast is left too then > what is leftover and tries to be right but is usually wrong is just a bunch of > corn and lots of oranges that wish they were blue. Corny. Very corny. > > Love, > Beach Lover Actually, if you'll recall the map of North Amerikkka that was drawn up after the last *election* debacle, you might remember the left coast, upper east coast and a few northern midwest states all together in blue along with that *other place* to our north, all rightfully regarded as "The United States of Canada", and the rest of the country was in red, called "Jesusland". Damn, that was funny! But then, probably moreso since it's fairly true. JR in NH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:05:59 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Bonnie Michael O' wrote "Well, what have we here? Two good things to celebrate, back-to-back. Rait has always been a red-hot mama in my books. Her birthday falls on the 8th. Wonder if she and Joni get along? Both great guitar players, eh?" I'll be seeing Bonnie's concert in NY soon. Don't know if they "get along". However, at the Grammy's when Joni won for TI, Bonnie seemed genuinely thrilled for her (camera shot of Bonnie as Joni walked up). Was Bonnie part of the competition that year ? Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:35:11 -0500 From: lcstanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni A blue J wrote: "Jesusland". Damn, that was funny! Hi Birdie, No Dreamland in Jesusland where the dear and the can't elope pray and ever is heard a discouraging word and the skies are all cloudy all day. Love, Range Dweller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:51:44 -0500 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the best coast -- and P.S. to Joni Original Message: - ----------------- From: lcstanley7@aol.com Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:35:11 -0500 To: bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com, lori@lrfye.lunarpages.com, bluejr@adelphia.net, joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni A blue J wrote: "Jesusland". Damn, that was funny! Hi Birdie, No Dreamland in Jesusland where the dear and the can't elope pray and ever is heard a discouraging word and the skies are all cloudy all day. Love, Range Dweller Touchi!! Quite the cunning linguist! ;-))) J/ - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:46:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Get Together Thank you for this enchanting link, Catherine. Sure made my day:) Nuri Catherine McKay wrote: Ask and you shall receive. Here is Joni singing "Get together", Worcester 1969: http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LUUQEU3LCXHU33K3J6EQWQZ1D - --- clive sax wrote: > Hi all. > > I was pondering a song the other day that I love - > get together - and > having known that joni sang it sometime in her early > years I went looking > for the transcription on the JMDL. I was prompted to > go looking cos i > caught Lizz wright singing it in her concert set > here in Brighton last > week and i also know the youngbloods version and my > personal favourite - > the carpenters on their ticket to ride album. Now to > the question. Did > Joni do a different jonified version of the song and > if so where can i > get to hear it? I tried and tried to play the > version on the list but for > the life of me cant get it to fit the melody i know. > Any ideas. > > Clive x > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > MSN Premium gives you PC protection, junk-mail > filters, advanced > communication tools and great software like MSN > Encarta. Premium. Click > here for a FREE trial! > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:53:46 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Desktop Pic #11 Here's another desktop pic for you, folks. It's a little depressing but, some of you might like it. The Beat of Black Wings. Download the 1024 X 640 here http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WWE4ENWO26I42ZYBRG3ZKUKQR and the 1280 X 1024 here http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39560BZGCQ3VN305CNYXC4Q38N Mark in Sydney NP Come Morning - David Sylvian. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:50:08 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Janice Jopplin, Jimi Hendrix njc Been playing "Piece of my Heart" in art class for my 8th, 9th and 10th graders. The black kids are feeling it. I am too. I printed up the words and put it on the overhead so they can sing it while doing their artwork. I like Janice more and more and more. I heard on NPR radio that there is a new biography on Jimi Hendrix. The writer sounded good when he spoke. It had the word MIRRORS in the title of the book. I Haven't looked it up yet. It sounded interesting. I really do not know Jimi Hendrix much. . but I want to get to know him. As for Janice, I just feel her more and more. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:06:00 -0500 From: lcstanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni A Red-buckeyed queer queen wrote: I've always figured you for a Democrap. This person I live with CLAIMS she is a progressive...yeah..if she were in charge we'd all still be living in caves...driving horse and buggies...she'd be wearing a bonnet...a corset.... very progressive NOT... Hi Red, The difference between a repukelican and a democrap is that the repukelicans eat and feed others their crap which is why they are one big puke party. They don't know the difference between throw up and blow up. The democraps know crap when they see it and recycle it so they can grow shit and smoke shit. Thanks for putting me in the later category although I would better be classified as an independent. As for the progressive clam you live with... she really ought to get out more, eat a bagle with blue bonnet on it, set the course of freedom with her Franciscan cave-dweller, horse riding concepts. If our current leaders knew more about caves, we might be able to find Osama rather than just preach about burning bushes and drive the rest of the world buggy. Love, Noshit ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:02:42 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Nellie McKay - NJC Just listened to a local interview with list favorite Nellie McKay. Whole show was mostly about her as an animal activist. Another dimension about her that I love. Her new cd is coming out soon and will contain 2 duets. One is with kd lang, the other with Cyndi Lauper. Seems like she9s on the right track track for a very young 20. Jerry NP - Beth Nielsen Chapman - All For The Love ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:11:29 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Double birthday celebration Wow, congratulations to Azeem & your wife & welcome to this world little Amelia! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:12:41 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE:back to the fold JC Debra, sending my love & condolences your way... I can't imagine surviving the loss of my son ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:15:39 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: (NJC) Moving to the "best" coast -- and P.S. to Joni Wow congratulations lori & mary for making the leap to the best coast (left is best!)... I'm too far away to know of any apts there but I'm sure your going through sticker shock as sf like where I live in socal are probably the most expensive places for housing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Nellie McKay - NJC Boy, Norah Jones is gonna be pissed. - --Smurf Jerry wrote: Her new cd is coming out soon and will contain 2 duets. One is with kd lang, the other with Cyndi Lauper. Jerry NP - Beth Nielsen Chapman - All For The Love - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:17:37 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Jessica Simpson A clam asked: who is Jessica Simpson? She's Homer's off night backstreet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:25:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Nellie McKay - NJC Thanks for mentioning this, Jerry. There's also a 40th- anniversary-of-Rubber-Soul tribute album just out, and Nellie does one of the covers. See here (and you can listen to samples to compare original Beatles with today's cover versions of three songs: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4972054 or hear samples of all and read more schtuff at: http://www.thisbirdhasflown.com/ - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > Just listened to a local interview with list > favorite Nellie McKay. Whole > show was mostly about her as an animal activist. > Another dimension about her > that I love. Her new cd is coming out soon and will > contain 2 duets. One is > with kd lang, the other with Cyndi Lauper. Seems > like she9s on the right > track track for a very young 20. > > Jerry > > NP - Beth Nielsen Chapman - All For The Love > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:11:37 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: Double birthday celebration Congrats Azeem, another Amelia! My eldest is Amelia too! Ric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:13:29 -0500 From: vince Subject: njc 30th anniversaty 11-10 Edmund Fitzgerald I lived in Muskegon in 1975 when the Edmund Fitz sank and vividly remember the news when the ship went missing with 29 sailors aboard - and then was found a few days later at the bottom of Lake Superior - it was one of the worst storms to hit the Great Lakes in decades, several people in the Muskegon/Grand Haven area were swpt away having gone to the piers to watch the storm, the Mackinac Bridge was closed, I remember the rain and wind so vividly hard to believe it is 30 years - for those who follow the lore of Lake Michigan, it ranks with the Carl Bradley and Morrill as the most mysterious of sink shippings in memory of that good ship and crew - and at the Episcopal Church next to Cobo Hall on Novembr 10, the church bell will chime 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. http://www.ssefo.com/ http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html http://www.boatnerd.com/fitz/ http://www.corfid.com/gl/wreck.htm as a personal favor, I am asking that no one knock on the song - for those of us who remember the sinking, that song helped others become aware of the tragedy, and it is deeply moving. There are those who make fun of the song, but to me, that is like making fun of the dead. Gordon Lightfoot, many years, flies in at his own expense to the Mariner's Church on Woodward Avenue in Detroit to take part in the Memorial Service. The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead When the skies of November turn gloomy. With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed When the gales of November came early The ship was the pride of the American side Coming back from some mill in Wisconson As the big freighters go it was bigger than most With a crew and the Captain well seasoned. Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms When they left fully loaded for Cleveland And later that night when the ships bell rang Could it be the North Wind they'd been feeling. The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound And a wave broke over the railing And every man knew, as the Captain did, too, T'was the witch of November come stealing. The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait When the gales of November came slashing When afternoon came it was freezing rain In the face of a hurricane West Wind When supper time came the old cook came on deck Saying fellows it's too rough to feed ya At 7PM a main hatchway caved in He said fellas it's been good to know ya. The Captain wired in he had water coming in And the good ship and crew was in peril And later that night when his lights went out of sight Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Does anyone know where the love of God goes When the words turn the minutes to hours The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay If they'd fifteen more miles behind her. They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters. Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings In the ruins of her ice water mansion Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams, The islands and bays are for sportsmen. And farther below Lake Ontario Takes in what Lake Erie can send her And the iron boats go as the mariners all know With the gales of November remembered. In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral The church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 times For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee Superior, they say, never gives up her dead When the gales of November come early. ) 1976 Moose Music, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:27:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Nellie McKay - NJC Besides the Beatles cover CD, Nellie's been on broadway in Kurt Weill's classic Threepenny Opera. I was afraid that all this other stuff would slow down the progress of her follow-up to her killer debut but "Pretty Little Head" is scheduled to come out 12/27, so when you realize that all your Christmas presents suck you can go get the new Nellie McKay and you'll feel better. Hopefully she won't fall prey to the Sophomore jinx, I'll bet this one is also going to be great. Bob NP: The Waifs, "Rescue" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:32:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Sloan Wainwright covers River Boy, you need a scorecard to keep up with all of these Wainwrights! Sloan, who is Loudon's sister and therefore Rufus' aunt, has just released a holiday CD with a cover of River. Hear two minutes worth at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/wainwright5 Man, can't any of these Wainwrights get REAL jobs? Bob NP: K's Choice, "Almost Happy" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:44:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: guns & butter NJC You just HAD to go and start up the margarine vs. butter thing again, didn't you? At least the topic melts away pretty quickly when the flames break out. Bob, definitely a butter guy NP: Kate Bush, "Nocturn" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:40:57 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: guns & butter NJC From Texas and live in Texas. Have always hated the hunting of animals for sport and my mother would have them thrown off our land when they came to hunt pheasants back in the day. We never had a gun and I still don't. I did kill the sparrow when a teenager in one lucky shot. That cured me. Someone was looking into the picture window of the house a few nights ago in the fenced backyard. Climbed the fence of the neighboring yard for access. Gave Tod a start. Thought it was a fluke did I. They were back last night. Rather creepy. Tore down a piece of the fence this time. I will be waiting for them this night. Asked the officer if a gun I should purchase. He said no but I think it might not be a bad idea if the person persists. This is Texas after all and a home is supposed to be that. I prefer Parkay to real butter although occasionally get a hankering for the real stuff. mack np: silence - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "Bruce Eggleston" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: Re: guns & butter NJC > into these off-topic controversial subjects (religion, > race, politics, > margarine vs. butter)> > > You just HAD to go and start up the margarine vs. butter thing again, didn't you? > At least the topic melts away pretty quickly when the flames break out. > > Bob, definitely a butter guy > > NP: Kate Bush, "Nocturn" > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #421 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)