From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #412 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 3 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 412 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Amelia [Box of Paints ] Re: Joni on the Dick Cavett DVD Set [Gary Z ] Re: Rosa Parks, NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Ali Get Your Gun NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni on the Dick Cavett DVD Set [roberto munguia ] NJC How was your day, dear? ["Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Amelia Why are you referring to her in the past tense? because she hasn't written anything for the present! Ha ha... No, Amelia is one of those songs that arrives like an aeroplane and then, just while the glory of it hits you, will leave and fade away into the horizon, like an aeroplane, from the first chordal movement to the last fade out. The song, conceived as a whole like that, I believe... definitely in the zone. You know how sometimes you get Joni's songs written out with tiny scribblings out? I know I have seen some examples of this for auction on eBay and they've always seemed to me like they were just splurged out onto the page, with very little need for correction.... maybe she writes out all her songs like that after she's written them. I know, for example that All I Want was VERY different to how it ends up in Blue as the 'Pink Dress Concert' will bear testimony to (it was called 'All I Wanted' and is quite forlorn, in a way that All I Want is very hopeful and playful. Another Joni Mondegreen: A friend of mine who I turned to the Dark Cafe thought that in All I Want she sang: "Oh, I love you some, I Love you some, I Love your summer pudding..." I guess he never pays attention to the words... trouble is whenever I get to that point, all I hear is Summer pudding... Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 02/11/05, Annie wrote: > I think she was very much in tune with her intuition, subconscious, > whatever you want to call it. > > Why am I referring to her in the past tense? > > A conjurer, she is. > > :) > > At 07:47 PM 11/1/2005, Catherine McKay wrote: > > >I wonder if she spent a long time working on that > >stuff or if it just kind of came to her unbidden. It's > >a gift. > > > >Catherine > >Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:02:02 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Joni on the Dick Cavett DVD Set Yes, Bree, I did notice that momentary giggle - I don't know if the Jefferson Airplane were passing around a joke or what, I'm not sure I think that they were reacting to Joni's performance, and I think they were high ;-), but Cavett kind of giggled a bit later on, and to me, it reminded me of myself - sometimes when I've heard something that is just so moving, that touches me so deeply, I've let out an involuntary giggle, just as an emotional release. It's a strange reaction, but it certainly has happened to me when I've listened to Joni and Laura Nyro, and I believe that is what was happening with Cavett too. Those people had just never heard anyone like Joni before, and the audience appeared awestruck and spellbound. I wonder if Stills saved his dried mud?? LOL Gary Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Right you are..Gary! Marianne and I are enjoying this now. We > ordered our's from Netflix. Did you notice the giggles from some of > the Airplane and Dick Cavett when Joni was performing? It was just > momentary...but they and the audience seemed mesmerized. We are > looking forward to George Harrison's segment which I haven't seen > before. I'd like to hear some of the thoughts of the performers as > well as the audience today about that show. (especially from the guy > who was dancing with Joni. Cute! ) I laughed when Stills said he > literally just got here from Woodstock...then said .."See the mud is > still on my pants." > > > Bree > >> I was able to pick up the Dick Cavett Show//Rock Icons 3 DVD set >> yesterday. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but of course, did >> view the Joni segment. Has anyone else picked this up yet? >> >> Many of you may have seen these performances on VH1 when they showed >> them a couple of years back, (or perhaps they are treed somewhere >> among us) but seeing the complete show was really great! And the >> quality is pretty terrific. Joni's show is dated August 19, 1969 and >> she appears along with Jefferson Airplane, Stephen Stills and David >> Crosby. I recommend this highly, and must admit, that seeing her >> perform "Willy" at the piano brought tears to my eyes. For those who >> are not familiar with this show, I believe it is her American debut, >> and she also performs "Chelsea Morning," "For Free" and "Fiddle and >> the Drum." "Willy" and "For Free" were still unreleased songs at the >> time this program aired. It was fun to see Joni dancing with some >> guy too, as the Jefferson Airplane played during the final credits of >> the show. >> >> The other discs that I haven't viewed yet contain the following >> guests: Sly and the Family Stone, David Bowie, Janis Joplin, Stevie >> Wonder, Tex Ritter, Gary Wright and Wonderwheel, George Harrison, >> Ravi Shankar, Jerzy Kosinski, Paul Simon and The Jessy Dixon >> Singers. There are other guests that appear on these discs as well, >> including Elsa Lanchester, The Committee, Gloria Swanson, Margot >> Kidder, Raquel Welch (on the Joplin show) and Debbie Reynolds. Bonus >> material includes an interview with Dick Cavett. >> >> But Joni's performances are worth the price of the set alone! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Gary >> Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:14:55 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rosa Parks, NJC Some really funny people posted: The policemen on motorcycles had about >a mile head start >on the hertz carrying her body> > >A Hertz? Someone of Ms. Parks' stature and they transport her in a lousy >rent-a-car? >I hope you meant to say 'hearse'... LOLLLLLLLL ROFLLLLL this is SO funny! I love it!!! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:58:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Ali Get Your Gun NJC A blast from the past said: The NEXT one??? What, you're getting married again? Oh yeah, I forgot, you guys do that in Utah...well, congrats on all of your upcoming weddings. Perhaps I can make one of them. < Also...i quit smoking! I'm a few days in, very committed, and very happy about my decision!> Hey, now THAT is awesome news Ali - congrats on that one for real. Your lungs thank you. And I thank you for getting back in touch. Stick around and chime in every once in a while - I've missed you. Bob NP: India.Arie, "Brown Skin" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:18:41 -0600 From: roberto munguia Subject: Re: Joni on the Dick Cavett DVD Set Not to change the subject, but does someone else on this list LOVE LAURA NYRO?!?! I think it's tremendously sweet that Joni has good things to say about her( and not too many other female vocalists). There's a respect there that shows up in songs like Blue,and The Arrangement. Does anyone out there know where I can read more about Joni's impressions concerning Laura? Just think! TWO BRILLIANT SINGER-SONGWRITERS IN OUR LIFETIME! Roberto in Dallas On 11/2/05, Gary Z wrote: > > Yes, Bree, I did notice that momentary giggle - I don't know if the > Jefferson Airplane were passing around a joke or what, I'm not sure I > think that they were reacting to Joni's performance, and I think they > were high ;-), but Cavett kind of giggled a bit later on, and to me, it > reminded me of myself - sometimes when I've heard something that is just > so moving, that touches me so deeply, I've let out an involuntary > giggle, just as an emotional release. It's a strange reaction, but it > certainly has happened to me when I've listened to Joni and Laura Nyro, > and I believe that is what was happening with Cavett too. Those people > had just never heard anyone like Joni before, and the audience appeared > awestruck and spellbound. > > I wonder if Stills saved his dried mud?? LOL > > Gary > > Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > > Right you are..Gary! Marianne and I are enjoying this now. We > > ordered our's from Netflix. Did you notice the giggles from some of > > the Airplane and Dick Cavett when Joni was performing? It was just > > momentary...but they and the audience seemed mesmerized. We are > > looking forward to George Harrison's segment which I haven't seen > > before. I'd like to hear some of the thoughts of the performers as > > well as the audience today about that show. (especially from the guy > > who was dancing with Joni. Cute! ) I laughed when Stills said he > > literally just got here from Woodstock...then said .."See the mud is > > still on my pants." > > > > > > Bree > > > >> I was able to pick up the Dick Cavett Show//Rock Icons 3 DVD set > >> yesterday. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but of course, did > >> view the Joni segment. Has anyone else picked this up yet? > >> > >> Many of you may have seen these performances on VH1 when they showed > >> them a couple of years back, (or perhaps they are treed somewhere > >> among us) but seeing the complete show was really great! And the > >> quality is pretty terrific. Joni's show is dated August 19, 1969 and > >> she appears along with Jefferson Airplane, Stephen Stills and David > >> Crosby. I recommend this highly, and must admit, that seeing her > >> perform "Willy" at the piano brought tears to my eyes. For those who > >> are not familiar with this show, I believe it is her American debut, > >> and she also performs "Chelsea Morning," "For Free" and "Fiddle and > >> the Drum." "Willy" and "For Free" were still unreleased songs at the > >> time this program aired. It was fun to see Joni dancing with some > >> guy too, as the Jefferson Airplane played during the final credits of > >> the show. > >> > >> The other discs that I haven't viewed yet contain the following > >> guests: Sly and the Family Stone, David Bowie, Janis Joplin, Stevie > >> Wonder, Tex Ritter, Gary Wright and Wonderwheel, George Harrison, > >> Ravi Shankar, Jerzy Kosinski, Paul Simon and The Jessy Dixon > >> Singers. There are other guests that appear on these discs as well, > >> including Elsa Lanchester, The Committee, Gloria Swanson, Margot > >> Kidder, Raquel Welch (on the Joplin show) and Debbie Reynolds. Bonus > >> material includes an interview with Dick Cavett. > >> > >> But Joni's performances are worth the price of the set alone! > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Gary > >> Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:45:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Covers #70 - More Tricks & Treats OK, so once again another month is upon us - and it's time to break out another original and outlandish collection of recordings of folks who are so nutty about Joni they just have to put their admiration on record, or tape, or CD, or whatever. And as always I'm there to applaud them when they soar or catch them when they fall. Here's what November's chilly winds have blown in: 1. Sue & Sunny - Night In The City: A return to the project by Sue & Sunny, who turned in a cover of Michael From Mountains way back when. This track (an obscure b-side of a 45) features their harmony vocals, a chiming guitar sound, and a funky mariachi horn section. Definitely gets #70 off to a peppy albeit a semi-cheesy start. 2. David Hamilton - Both Sides Now: Oh, that dreaded cheesarama organ sound! I always envision some nerdy adult sitting in the shop window at the mall (I used to work next to a piano/organ store) and making you despise the current pop hits of the day on his Lowrey Genie. And with this track Hamilton ruins TWO songs as he does BSN as a medley with Raindrops Are Fallin' On My Head. If only the organ itself was falling on his head, then we'd be getting somewhere. 3. Sue Brenner - You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio: Sue pulls out all the country-pop stops with this one- so you get banjos- saxes, you name it. And even though Joni didn't write the song in your basic verse-chorus-verse setup, Sue insists on shuffling the lyrics around so that it appears that she did - not a totally bad thing because it makes you notice if you're trying to sing along. 4. Brian Kirk & The Jirks - Big Yellow Taxi: A live recording in the Counting Crows style. 5. Camp Walt Whitman - The Circle Game: They sing the body electric! I dunno who at these camps decides that it would a good idea to herd the campers up and record them, but they do, and invariably they pull out the ol' campfire favorite. This is from a full-length CD so I guess you could call this track a Whitman's sampler. 6. Screen Sound Orchestra - Both Sides Now: Amazing how many movie soundtrack albums BSN appears on, this one is more cheese but is highlighted by whoever is playing the flute and seems to want to break away from the pack and just does his/her own thing. 7. Jinny Sangorin - Carey: A pleasant and recent recording, Jinny is a Boston-area singer/actress and does a nice job with Carey, mantle-of-the-moon and all. 8. Buzz Toyz - Big Yellow Taxi: Coming in second place to Steely Dan in the "best band named for a dildo" category, this Wisconsin party band nevertheless turns in a hoppin', boppin', rockin' version of BYT. 9. The Cardinal Sinners - Blue: Acapella from Wesleyan University, and a really nice version of Blue with swelling, soaring harmonies. 10. The Paul Robinson Players - Cheese from down under. Needs more cowbell. 11. Sandra-Labarge Neumann - Fiddle & The Drum: From a Unitarian worship service - I'm sure she didn't think anyone would download it and put it to CD, but here it is. 12.The Come Dancing Orchestra - Big Yellow Taxi: Total synthetic yuck, sounds like video game music, or the music that plays over the closing credits of some ABC afterschool special or something. 13. Montreal Jazz Club - A Case Of You: Ah, at last, another track to rave about. This one is very classy, and is unique in that it is an INSTRUMENTAL version of ACOY. Most folks can't do the song without the awesome lyrics, but these cats just dig in and groove on the melody, with some nice touches by accordion, violins, piano - cafe music. 14. The Tigers - Both Sides Now: The Tigers were a Japanese Pop group from the sixties, and this live recording captures their teeny-bopper fans chiming in with some Beatlemania-like cheering. And they don't know how quite how to respond, since they really don't know crowds at all. 15. Herve Krief - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: Another instrumental, so I guess in this case it's not a TRUE Joni cover but still is pretty interesting. It almost sounds like two recordings are taking place simultaneously, and there's some nice soloing as well. And I could be wrong, but they sample some spoken word which I believe is Charles Mingus. Interesting stuff. 16. Distant Cousins - Woodstock: A bluegrass cover from this Alabama band that puts a country spin on classic rock. Fun, and well done. Makes me want to canoe down the river with Burt Reynolds & Jon Voight. 17. Mary Catherine Reynolds - That Song About The Midway: I LOVE this one, a great match of song & singer. Mary Catherine has spent lots of time in the Austin area, and currently resides in OK City. Just her & her guitar, and that's gracious plenty. Two thumbs way up for her. 18. Dee & Vance - Both Sides Now: Dee sounds a little bit tentative but the fragility of her voice conveys a sense of tenderness and anxiety that works fairly well. The guitar part is exactly what Joni plays on the album. 19. Rhona - For Free: Go tell Aunt Rhona, go tell aunt Rhona, go tell Aunt Rho-ho-na, to please stop singing this song. 20. Duo Latte - Woodstock: From Noway, a highly enjoyable voice-tuba duo that are very talented and just give themselves lots of room to stretch & play - at one point the Tuba player (Tubist?) breaks out into Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust" which is just a scream. 21. Joan Crowe - Twisted: This cabaret performer starts this one out by almost making it a spoken word version, but bit by bit brings more instruments into the mix (keyboards, percussion, and a sweet stinging guitarist) and puts a unique spin on it - good stuff. So there you have it - 21tracks, over 77 minutes of Joni cover treats and tricks. As always, I'm happy to share so let me know if you'd like the November winds to blow one your way. Bob NP: Joan Crowe, "Twisted" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:00:07 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: NJC How was your day, dear? Here's a little story from my day. Riding home on my bike after work today, about 4:15, start of the rush hour, the same route I take every day, I came across a surprising sight. I saw a man walking towards me, on the opposite sidewalk, with a very purposeful gait, wearing nothing but a blank expression on his face. No socks, no shoes, no watch, no nothing. Not a stitch. I was stunned. In his late 30's, considerably overweight, dark curly hair. I thought, oh no, what's this guy doing? I got off my bike to watch his progress. He reached the streetcorner, a busy intersection. People just kept kept moving along, like everything was OK. Something so profoundly human and simple about the situation made it completely unthreatening, but I was worried for his health and safety. We're talking, like, 8 degrees C here (about 45F). As I popped into a store and asked the clerk to call 911, the police arrived (two young women!) and followed him into the local church! All three stepped out a few seconds later and the man was asked to sit in the cruiser while one of the women retrieved an aluminum blanket from the car trunk. No resistance whatsoever. Wow. It was quite surreal, seeing someone acting so normal, when in reality he was completely unhinged. My partner, who works in mental health, said he was probably psychotic, acting out an episode. Apparently walking around naked is not so uncommon with these cases. Lordy lordy. So, what's been going down in your neighborhood lately ? Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: cindy vickery Subject: Re: Covers #70 - More Tricks & Treats NJC My vote for "Funniest Post - 2005" cindy Bob Muller wrote: 14. The Tigers - Both Sides Now: The Tigers were a Japanese Pop group from the sixties, and this live recording captures their teeny-bopper fans chiming in with some Beatlemania-like cheering. And they don't know how quite how to respond, since they really don't know crowds at all. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:03:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Judy Collins at the Moore Theatre NJC I am so glad you mentioned the opener! We know Kenny. Jeff & I met him last year at a songwriter seminar. He was a participant not a presenter. He & Jeff really hit it off in one session. There was a night of performances by the participants followed by a night of performances by the presenters (beth neilsen chapman, glen phillips & others of equal talent & various genres)... they were all so impressed by kenny that they invited him to join them on stage with him & he stole the friggin show! yes he is amazing... tom waitsesque >I have to say a few words about the opening act. Kenny White is a New York artist recently signed to Judy's Wildflower label. His songs are kind of rambling and quirky and full of insight and sardonic wit. There were also a couple of very beautiful ballads thrown in the mix. But what stands out about this guy, and it *really* stands out, is his piano playing. It is not just your standard Billy Joel, Carole King, Elton John, Joni Mitchell type of piano accompaniment to pop songs. It is virtuoso. It is epic. It is all up and down the keyboard with amazing agility and skill. You could imagine this guy playing Rachmaninoff. He has two cds out and I highly recommend checking them out. His website says he has played with Cheryl Wheeler so maybe Ashara or some of you have heard of him. He did a song that was a very wicked and apt skewering of Pat Robertson that got a very nice positive reaction from the audience.< ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #412 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)