From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #410 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 2 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 410 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: STOP njc [atel79@dsl.pipex.com] Re: STOP njc [Bob Muller ] Re: STOP njc [Catherine McKay ] RE: Rosa Parks ["Anne Sandstrom" ] re: STOP, Rosa Parks, Jimmy (njc) ["Anne Sandstrom" ] Re: STOP njc ["Arkay O'Malley" ] NJC Hurricane Wilma and more bad news ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Rosa Parks ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Rosa Parks (now njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] joni remixed ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Rosa Parks, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Rosa Parks, njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Bob's sarcasm, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: joni remixed [roberto munguia ] Re: the gun thread - njc [Lori Fye ] Vikram Seth author of An Equal Music NJC [mags h ] Artwork research... ["Les Irvin" ] RE: Rosa Parks (now njc) [Bob Muller ] Desktop Pic #6 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Amelia [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: "You've Got To Be Taught" [Claud9 ] Happy Julius "My booooooy Ray" Mills Birthday! [Michael Paz ] Re: drugs, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] re: the gun thread - njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Amelia [Annie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:22:38 +0000 From: atel79@dsl.pipex.com Subject: Re: STOP njc Bob wrote: One of my favorite lyrics, which I've quoted here on a couple of > ocassions, is from "You've Got To Be Taught": > You've got to be taught > To hate and fear > You've got to be taught > From year to year > It's got to be drummed > In your dear little ear > You've got to be carefully taught > > You've got to be taught > To be afraid > Of people whose eyes > Are oddly made > And people whose skin > Is a different shade > You've got to be carefully taught > > You've got to be taught > Before it's too late > Before you are 6 or 7 or 8 > To hate all the people > Your relatives hate > You've got to be carefully taught > This is bang on the money, Bob. Who is it?? If the tune's as incisive as the lyric, I wanna hear it. Just on the subject of being taught hatred, and I don't know if I've mentioned this before: the first school I went to was a Montessori School in Karachi, Pakistan. I still remember our teacher, in a lesson that might have been history or geography, solemnly pronouncing "The Israelis are very bad people, they always take revenge." I would have been about 6 at the time. And this wasn't even in a particularly religious school, and it was during Bhutto's regime, when Pakistan was tending towards a rather westernised, liberal (loosely speaking) outlook. I dread to think what they're told today. Similarly, what I've read about Israel and Palestine suggests that many Israeli children are *taught* to hate Palestinians, and a lot of Palestinian children are *taught* to hate Israelis (read: Jews). And I've heard Australians telling their children (and anyone in earshot) that the "Abos" are just a bunch of drunkards. And on it goes. Luckily for me, that was one lesson I didn't learn. Azeem in London, pondering whether I'm really going to be foolhardy enough to attempt another novel, given impending parenthood, work and the necessity of breathing every now and then... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 03:33:30 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: STOP njc It's from the lyrical wizardry of Oscar Hammerstein, who wrote it (along with Richard Rodgers' music) for the Broadway musical South Pacific. The producers of the show deemed the song 'too controversial' and wanted it cut from the score. Hammerstein told them "cut this song and you cut the whole show". It stayed in, and of course the show has been a theatrical standard for some 60 or so years now. Rodgers' melody is similarly haunting - very much in conjunction with the lyric. I don't have a soundtrack CD to post it, maybe someone else can do a you-send-it with a track. If no one does, I'll borrow a CD from my Dad. He shared his love for Rodgers' music and lyrics with me when I was a kid, and hey, like the song says "you've got to be carefully taught" and I was. This spring I was asked to participate in a fund-raising Broadway Revue at my son's former high school, and they said I could pick 4 songs. "You've Got To Be Taught" was my first choice. Bob NP: Curtis Mayfield, "Freddy's Dead" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:00:09 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: STOP njc - --- atel79@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > Azeem in London, pondering whether I'm really going > to be foolhardy enough to > attempt another novel, given impending parenthood, > work and the necessity of > breathing every now and then... > Oh sure, just throw that one in there and think no one will notice. You're going to be a dad? Details, please! When? (If it's not until Dec. 1, you have no excuse not to write the novel.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:13:20 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: RE: Rosa Parks Hi Sherelle, Your descrition of Rosa Parks' procession brought me to tears. What an amazing woman. And, yes, even in death, she has a profound effect on this nation. I am glad to see at least some kids get it. Let's hope they carry that into adulthood. My best to you... lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:24:20 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: re: STOP, Rosa Parks, Jimmy (njc) See, now there you go, Bob, proving why you're the music slut you are (not!). "You've Got to Be Taught" is one of my favorite songs. And how appropriate for this thread AND the Rosa Parks posts. btw, have you heard Michael Johnson's version of the song. Just brilliant! Also, brought again to tears by Patti's post about the UConn shuttles. And, while I'm here, my heart goes out to you and your family, Jimmy. I've lately come to think that the grief that comes from a loved one's passing is equal parts sorrow and love. I hope the love carries you and your family through this. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:39:58 -0600 From: "Arkay O'Malley" Subject: Re: STOP njc its from south pacific. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bob Muller" Cc: "Kate Bennett" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:22 AM Subject: Re: STOP njc > Bob wrote: > > One of my favorite lyrics, which I've quoted here on a couple of >> ocassions, is from "You've Got To Be Taught": >> You've got to be taught >> To hate and fear >> You've got to be taught >> From year to year >> It's got to be drummed >> In your dear little ear >> You've got to be carefully taught >> >> You've got to be taught >> To be afraid >> Of people whose eyes >> Are oddly made >> And people whose skin >> Is a different shade >> You've got to be carefully taught >> >> You've got to be taught >> Before it's too late >> Before you are 6 or 7 or 8 >> To hate all the people >> Your relatives hate >> You've got to be carefully taught >> > This is bang on the money, Bob. Who is it?? If the tune's as incisive as > the > lyric, I wanna hear it. > > Just on the subject of being taught hatred, and I don't know if I've > mentioned > this before: the first school I went to was a Montessori School in > Karachi, > Pakistan. I still remember our teacher, in a lesson that might have been > history or geography, solemnly pronouncing "The Israelis are very bad > people, > they always take revenge." I would have been about 6 at the time. And > this > wasn't even in a particularly religious school, and it was during Bhutto's > regime, when Pakistan was tending towards a rather westernised, liberal > (loosely speaking) outlook. I dread to think what they're told today. > > Similarly, what I've read about Israel and Palestine suggests that many > Israeli > children are *taught* to hate Palestinians, and a lot of Palestinian > children > are *taught* to hate Israelis (read: Jews). And I've heard Australians > telling > their children (and anyone in earshot) that the "Abos" are just a bunch of > drunkards. And on it goes. > > Luckily for me, that was one lesson I didn't learn. > > Azeem in London, pondering whether I'm really going to be foolhardy enough > to > attempt another novel, given impending parenthood, work and the necessity > of > breathing every now and then... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:26:52 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC Hurricane Wilma and more bad news I am sorry to hear how bad it was in Florida from the recent hurricane & hope all of you are recovering okay. Jimmy I am so sorry to hear this news of your niece, how absolutely horrible. I've had friends who have lost their children to an overdose. One was from alcohol poisoning, another was methadone. I think that inner pain that many teens have for various reasons can be what drives someone to numb it with a substance & for someone with addiction in their chemistry & (sometimes kids who are young who are perhaps experimenting with drinking or using) that it impossible to know the line between what will get them high & what will kill them. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:42:52 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Rosa Parks We're not supposed to say "Me too" on the big list, so I'll send this just to you two, to say, "Me too!" - --- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > Hi Sherelle, > > Your descrition of Rosa Parks' procession brought me > to tears. > > What an amazing woman. And, yes, even in death, she > has a profound effect on this nation. I am glad to > see at least some kids get it. Let's hope they carry > that into adulthood. > > My best to you... > > lots of love, > Anne > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:47:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Rosa Parks Thanks Catherine! Sherelle >From: Catherine McKay >To: Anne Sandstrom , sherellesmith@hotmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: RE: Rosa Parks >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:42:52 -0500 (EST) > >We're not supposed to say "Me too" on the big list, so >I'll send this just to you two, to say, "Me too!" > >--- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > > Hi Sherelle, > > > > Your descrition of Rosa Parks' procession brought me > > to tears. > > > > What an amazing woman. And, yes, even in death, she > > has a profound effect on this nation. I am glad to > > see at least some kids get it. Let's hope they carry > > that into adulthood. > > > > My best to you... > > > > lots of love, > > Anne > > > > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:46:28 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Rosa Parks (now njc) Dear Anne, 7th Street NW is usually a crazy, mixed up thoroughfare where anything can and usually does happen but yesterday, everything came to a standstill as Rosa Parks went by. The policemen on motorcycles had about a mile head start on the hertz carrying her body and were spread out enough to keep traffic halted. It was a sunny morning very close to 11 am. I later found out that the procession was on it's way to the memorial service that was televised yesterday. I work in the Chinatown portion of Washington DC. I think the children will remember Anne and I am very encouraged by this. I will be the first to tell you that I don't understand death but for the first time, I have been able to see something very positive and beautiful come from it. I was listening to those kids speak about her when they were asked. I really think they "get" it and that is so encouraging! All my best to you too! Sherelle >From: "Anne Sandstrom" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: RE: Rosa Parks >Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:13:20 -0500 > >Hi Sherelle, > >Your descrition of Rosa Parks' procession brought me to tears. > >What an amazing woman. And, yes, even in death, she has a profound effect >on this nation. I am glad to see at least some kids get it. Let's hope they >carry that into adulthood. > >My best to you... > >lots of love, >Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:05:38 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: joni remixed Sorry for the memory lapse, but who was it who was asking for remixed joni songs? Could s/he remind me of the details, formats etc. Cheers, mike in barcelona np - Asian Dub Foundation - Enemy of the Enemy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:22:24 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rosa Parks, njc Sherelle wrote: I said, "Goodbye Rosa" Hi Sherelle, Thanks for sharing your beautiful account of being blessed by Rosa. To me she means hope for a better future. What an awesome soul. Rosa Parks. Wow. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:49:21 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rosa Parks, njc Hi Laura, I think you've summed it up perfectly with your words! Thank you. "Hope for a better future..." That's what it's all about. Without hope, what's the purpose for anything? Very well said! Sherelle >From: LCStanley7@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >CC: sherellesmith@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Rosa Parks, njc >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:22:24 EST > >Sherelle wrote: > >I said, >"Goodbye Rosa" >Hi Sherelle, > > Thanks for sharing your beautiful account of being blessed by Rosa. >To >me she means hope for a better future. What an awesome soul. Rosa Parks. >Wow. > >Love, >Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:51:27 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob's sarcasm, njc Catherine wrote: How come people are missing Muller's obvious sarcasm? Hi Catherine, Sarcasm? What sarcasm? I thought it was a sexual fantasy he was having. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:32:57 -0600 From: roberto munguia Subject: Re: joni remixed I'd like to know about any Joni remixes available stateside. I know she's done some of that on a single released some time ago, *but* *what else is out there? * Roberto in Dallas On 11/1/05, mike pritchard wrote: > > Sorry for the memory lapse, but who was it who was asking for remixed joni > songs? Could s/he remind me of the details, formats etc. Cheers, > mike in barcelona > np - Asian Dub Foundation - Enemy of the Enemy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:12:37 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: the gun thread - njc > Point well taken, but there should be a better way to > do this than to blow your own head off. There is, and once you've taken the first step, there's no turning back: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/10/30/MNG2NFF7KI1.DTL&o= 0 Lori, heading to SFO soon, but not to take my life ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Vikram Seth author of An Equal Music NJC As I write this post, I think of Patrick Leader in NYC because I know that he loves this book, An Equal Music, and I know he loves Vikram Seth's work. Patrick, Im going to see Vikram Seth this evening, hear him read, ask him to sign his new book. ... I will give him your regards :-) when I think of Patrick Leader, I think of the fact that not only did he meet me, he stayed with me in scary downtown NYC well after midnight because I was alone, and had to catch a connecting train and had no clue how to do that. I feel silly saying so, but it's true. Otherwise I would have been stranded. This was the train trip coming back after my brother's funeral, (is it really two years ago??) and I couldnt even see straight, never mind negotiate a train connection in that city, so cold, so late at night. This is the kind of thing that makes me feel incredibly blessed to be surrounded and touched by the bearable kindness of being, here. People like Patrick make a lasting impression on me. Must be something about that name ;-) By the way, I know full well that Mr. Muller was only trying to lift the heavyness of that gun control conversation, which I will again take note that it was impossible not to react to. And that's the whole damned point wasnt it now. special love goes out to Jimmy, just because. always, Mags xo np: Crash , dmb ;-) , just because let us go then you and i ~t.s.eliot~ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:30:09 -0500 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Artwork research... Joniphiles - I am looking for someone who has a great interest AND is interested in and able to do some research on Joni's artwork. Please email me offlist if interested in more details. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:23:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Rosa Parks (now njc) A Hertz? Someone of Ms. Parks' stature and they transport her in a lousy rent-a-car? I hope you meant to say 'hearse'... Bob NP: The Story, "Amelia" (not a Joni cover) PS: All silliness aside, thanks for sharing your eyewitness Sherelle - very moving. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:23:09 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Desktop Pic #6 Hi folks. Here is my attempt at another desktop pic. This one is Amelia. Hope you all like it. To those who have requested other songs. I will eventually get to them. It's a matter of inspiration and finding the right pictures. You can download the 1024 X 640 here: http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34VZH9GGMKK8619P2NYLGPOYX0 or the 1280 X 1024 version here: http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3F6ZI6OBMXBQV3FLIZIOUD7LIN Love Mark in Sydney NP Amelia - JM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:31:06 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Amelia Whilst working on the Amelia wallpaper, I got to thinking again about what Joni is saying in this song. After going over it line by line, it seems to me that it is similar to Cactus Tree in that when love presents itself, we consider the loss of freedom first. To me, Amelia was a symbol of choosing freedom over the possible confinement of a relationship yet, winding up with the inevitable regret. With that knowledge of past experiences, we can feel torn. Is this others' take on Amelia too or am I way off the mark? Mark in Sydney NP Amelia - JM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:59:01 -0500 From: Claud9 Subject: Re: "You've Got To Be Taught" Hi Bob, Love the lyrics. Who is the artist? Thanks, Claud9 on 11/1/05 3:00 AM, JMDL Digest at owner-joni-digest@smoe.org wrote: > "You've Got To Be Taught": ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:17:46 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Happy Julius "My booooooy Ray" Mills Birthday! Happy Julius "My booooooy Ray" Mills Birthday! He is in Austin Texas tonight and I just got off the phone with him. His B-Day was last Friday and I was too self absorbed in my own world to remember, but Freda and the kids reminded me today and we could decide which version of the fecking song to sing. Choices were. Happy Birthday (the same ol version The Stevie Wonder version suggested my Mikey Na na na na na na na NAH by the Beatles Or the Marilyn Monroe version which I did sing to him. Anyways no matter what. I had to cocktails tonight in your honor. Hope you has a great one in Texas and I thank God for small miracles like friendship cause when I think of friendship I think of you. Love Paz (just back from Voodoo in Memphis where it was a rough weekend and I feel my age + 20 tonight) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:18:33 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Rosa Parks, by Sherelle Cary Smith, njc Sherelle Cary Smith, Of all of the posts you've written, I think this one is WAY up there. It's my 2nd favorite. :) I printed it and stuck it up on the wall at work. BTW, You should consider adding your middle name to your name. Your "brand" is 3 words "Sherelle Cary Smith". It's a very real marketing asset. Try this: type all 3 words into a Google search; the first 6 hits are all about you. On the other hand, if you type "Sherelle Smith", none of the 1st 3 hits are about a singer-songwriter in the DC Metro area. The first hit says, "Sherelle Smith is a student at the International Academy of Design." All the best, Jim Dayton, OH > From: "Sherelle Smith" > I feel very proud and honored this morning... > > About ten minutes ago, Rosa Parks passed by my office windo and I > was able > to look down and see her casket through the Hertz window. Behind > her was a > metro bus from the 1950's draped with a royal blue ribbon across > the front. > It was her family. In front of her were about a dozen policemen on > motorcycles clearing the way. They were heading up 7th Street towards New > York Avenue. I am thinking she was on the way to the airport to > be flown to > Detroit. > > I said, > "Goodbye Rosa" as her body passed by. I am so happy to see her > getting such > a stately send-off. Even her death is a blessing to the young > children who > never knew about segregation or what Rosa Parks really means to > everyone. I > was so touched by all of the children being interviewed on TV > last night who > understood what Rosa really means to all mankind. Even in death, she is a > blessing and I am very honored to have seen her pass by. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Amelia - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Whilst working on the Amelia wallpaper, I got to > thinking again about > what Joni is saying in this song. After going over > it line by line, it > seems to me that it is similar to Cactus Tree in > that when love > presents itself, we consider the loss of freedom > first. To me, Amelia > was a symbol of choosing freedom over the possible > confinement of a > relationship yet, winding up with the inevitable > regret. With that > knowledge of past experiences, we can feel torn. > > Is this others' take on Amelia too or am I way off > the mark? > I think you're right on. In fact, it's a recurring theme throughout Joni's work - looking for the right love, thinking maybe you've found it, discovering it was "just a false alarm", or that you love your loving, but not like you love your freedom. Duality once again. In fact, in "Amelia", Joni even talks about pulling into "the *Cactus Tree* Motel to shower off the dust". And she references Both Sides Now when she talks about spending her "whole life in *clouds* at icy altitudes". Very clever woman, that Ms Mitchell. I wonder if she spent a long time working on that stuff or if it just kind of came to her unbidden. It's a gift. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:25:17 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Re: drugs, njc Jimmy, I'm sorry to hear that you're niece passed on. Jim L'Hommedieu Jimmy wrote: > I guess it was too much pressure for her, and that's what her girlfriend said turned her to drugs. Who knows? My niece's girlfriend tried to stop her from taking them, but it just happens.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:45:37 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: re: the gun thread - njc WHOA! Full stop. This is the 2nd time I've heard someone on the JMDL imply that suicide is an affordable retirement option. Naw, I'm pretty sure it's still just killing yourself. Spend your last $100 on a Greyhound bus ride to Mexico. Drive a taxi. That's an acceptable retirement plan. Imagine your neighbor's ill. She has diabetes and her doctor needs to amputate a leg. Instead, she asks you to buy a Saturday Night Special and one shell. Would you help her? Not if any of your friends work on an emergency response team, you wouldn't. You should treat yourself at least as well as that neighbor. Jim L'Hommedieu - - --- mia ortlieb wrote: >>Additionally, there is a suicide factor. Something > like ten times more likely to use the gun on yourself, rather than on > an intruder. Guns are just too easy. No planning, no thinking involved to just > pull a trigger on a whim.>> Em may have been "trolling" when she said, >That's the only reason I'd ever own a gun. Down the road when/if things get really hideous. The drugs neccesary to take one's own life are not easy to come by. And I feel a human *should* have the option to end her or his own life if there's no way out. Say one is ill, very old and destitute and has no family. Social Security has run out and the future just isn't bright. A gun provides a way. I don't have one, but if I did it would be to give myself this option. Em> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:09:37 -0800 From: Annie Subject: Re: Desktop Pic #6 Wow, that is beautiful. I think I'll just help myself to it. Thanks! :) At 04:23 PM 11/1/2005, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: >Hi folks. Here is my attempt at another desktop pic. This one is >Amelia. Hope you all like it. > >To those who have requested other songs. I will eventually get to them. >It's a matter of inspiration and finding the right pictures. > >You can download the 1024 X 640 here: >http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34VZH9GGMKK8619P2NYLGPOYX0 > >or the 1280 X 1024 version here: >http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3F6ZI6OBMXBQV3FLIZIOUD7LIN > >Love > >Mark in Sydney > >NP Amelia - JM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:11:18 -0800 From: Annie Subject: Re: Amelia I think she was very much in tune with her intuition, subconscious, whatever you want to call it. Why am I referring to her in the past tense? A conjurer, she is. :) At 07:47 PM 11/1/2005, Catherine McKay wrote: >I wonder if she spent a long time working on that >stuff or if it just kind of came to her unbidden. It's >a gift. > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #410 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)