From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #407 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 30 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 407 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? [Mark-Leon Thorne ] My final word on the gun thing... NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? ["Cassy" ] Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? ["Cassy" ] Radio 2 broadcast 29 Oct Annie Lennox and joni [Lucy Hone ] njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #306 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers [Catherine McK] Sheryl talks Joni ["janine sherman" ] NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers ["Patti Parlet] NJC - Hurricane (Kris Delmhorst) [OzWoman321@aol.com] RE: guns guns guns NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records ["ron" ] RE: guns guns guns NJC PS [mags h ] the same situations [Oddmund Kaarevik ] RE: guns guns guns NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: guns guns guns NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: the same situations [JoniPD ] Re: guns guns guns NJC [JoniPD ] Re: guns guns guns NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records [JoniPD ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:19:01 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? Mark E's explanation sounds the most likely but, I had another take on it when I first heard the song. It seems to be about a guy trying to entice a girl to leave her life behind in the city and head out to sea, throwing caution to the wind. For me, it followed on from Night In The City and I always imagined Joni was a bit of a night owl in those days. The Dawntreader to me is another way of saying, "night owl". Mark in Sydney NP Thing In a Book - Underworld ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:39:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: My final word on the gun thing... NJC Lucy>>You people of America (some of you certainly, but not all) live with the fear and almost sure certainty that you will possibly ............infact probably ..........WILL be shot by the guy next to you, the woman across the street the kid in the car driving past..... it makes you fearful, cynical and willing and keen to over arm yourselves because you dont trust that society is, for the main part 97% good...... < This applies to a very few in this country ... our everyday people are not the ones you see represented in the media... most people are as you say 97% good... here & abroad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:46:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: justice hopefully at last NJC >Cassy NP: Phil Ochs - Universal Soldier < I've been hearing that song over & over in my head lately... thanks for your thoughts cassy... I am glad your son is not following in his paternal family's footsteps... it is a different kind of war now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:31:43 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? Darn I forgot to mention... <<< I can't pigeon-hole a specific date or album... for me it's about her image and attitude as much as her music. >>> And the HAIR... Oh my! straight blunt-cut was her "early" style... what WAS she thinking with that perm later on? Probably the same thing I was when I got my stack-perm! Warm Regards, Cassy NP: Willy Porter - Watercolor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:28:27 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: "Early Joni Mitchell"? Karen Marie asked: <<< What would you say "Early Joni Mitcell" would refer to? >>> I've been reading this thread with great interest. I've followed Joni's career, as most of you have, and to be completely honest, I never really considered which Albums fit definitively into any one period; some patently cross over in places. I consider "Early Joni Mitcell" to be the fresh young folk artist, sometimes playing her guitar alone and looking vulnerable; emotional, perhaps to a fault for the public eye. To me, her next phase was a "filling out" of her sound additional instruments gave a tonal richness somewhat like a chord embellishing a note. She really got into her piano and showed a depth which had been lacking to some extent previously. However, she still hadn't shed that "innocence" which for me characterizes her earlier work. In fact, "Song To a Seagull" sort of showcased her growth. If you're old enough to have owned the album there were two distinct styles from the seaside side to the city side and it seemed she was daring us to love both sides of her. (that both sides now theme re-occurring?) One simpler and more spare, the other certainly hipper and as rock-oriented as she allowed herself to be at that time. Lyrically she matured and tended to wear her life on her recordings, angst and a hint of bitterness creeping in as she worked harder to produce a more viable product for the airwaves. "For the Roses", for me, really began her love/hate relationship with rock and roll. She appeared to make a small attempt to fit into the mold of pop-artist for a short spell she had some commercial success with "You Turn Me On I'm a Radio", at least as far as airplay went. Wow... I could go on and on with impressions of her hayday and beyond. And you know there's so much more... I can't pigeon-hole a specific date or album... for me it's about her image and attitude as much as her music. Warm Regards, Cassy NP: Willy Porter - Boab Tree ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:20:01 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Radio 2 broadcast 29 Oct Annie Lennox and joni Driving back from a dog walk I had the radio on and was listening to an interview with Mark Lamarr, Jo Brand and Annie Lennox. Annie was asked how she came to decide to be a singer, having spent two years at the Royal Academy studying the Flute.... She said that she heard Joni Mitchell singing on "an album and was taken by the harmonies, the amazing harmonies" an she said how much Joni had influenced her decision. there was some discussion of which album it might have been and Mark Lamarr basically took over again.... I always thought that Joni had to be in there somewhere........ Good day to you all Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (njc) Robert is home!!! - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > Hi, gang, > > To my and the entire hospital staff's atonishment, > Robert's progress has been so rapid that they could > see no reason not to let him come home with me today > (previous estimate had been Monday morning)!!! > Wonderful news! He is in good hands. Much love to both of you. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:50:08 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers Dear Joniamigos who WILL give peace a chance: Kate B. wrote: "Last night I wept as the names (of mostly young men) scrolled across my tv screen- the names of some of the over 2,000 americans & their ages (the vast majority were young men in their twenties and many the age of my son) & their home towns." I missed that, but surely I would have wept with you, Kate. I have two sons in their twenties. Here is a video for these creeps and these soldiers (bless the poor soldiers and their grieving families, and damn the creeps) that will make you weep again. It is powerful and moving -- diving, diving, diving down to the hell that these creeps have made. It will, as Em would say, "rip your face off." If it's already been posted here, please forgive me. http://theunitedamerican.blogs.com/Movies/2000A/2000.html And I'm gleeful over the "Scooter" (good ole "Scooter" -- did he do "a heck of a job", too?) indictment and hopeful that it might be the beginning of the end... that the other half of the country will see what these creeps have been doing to us and the world. I even fantasize about a war crimes tribunal -- it could be held at UConn at the Thomas J. Dodd Research Center, which honors Dodd's involvement in the Nuremberg Trials (http://www.lib.uconn.edu/online/research/speclib/ASC/findaids/Dodd_Thomas/MSS19940065S7.html) (that link is mostly for Jerry, our librarian extraordinaire!) And after Bush and Rummy and Rove and Cheney and Condi and the rest of them are convicted, "bring 'em on" and let them watch this video, 24/7, from their cells at Abu Ghraib or the kennels of Guantanamo. Put it on surround-sound with a screen on all four walls and let these walls of their lies and deception come tumbling down. Let them fall right on the ground and let all these innocent dogs go running free. (Oh well....that was just a dream some of us had!) Love, Patti P. "Another Mother for Peace" P.S. I'm with you, Lucy and Mags. NO GUNS. PERIOD. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:12:00 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #306 In a message dated 10/29/2005 3:01:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I second Les' proposition I'm also in agreement with this - and the follow up remark about LOTC, Blue and FTR serving as a distinct period for Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:52:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Dear Joniamigos who WILL give peace a chance: > > Kate B. wrote: > > "Last night I wept as the names (of mostly young > men) scrolled across my tv > screen- the names of some of the over 2,000 > americans & their ages (the vast > majority were young men in their twenties and many > the age of my son) & > their home towns." I didn't see that, but I did see a headline on yahoo.ca that said, "2000 Americans dead in Iraq" and my immediate reaction was, "OMFG!" and then immediately after, I wondered, how many Iraqis dead? > And I'm gleeful over the "Scooter" (good ole > "Scooter" -- did he do "a heck > of a job", too?) indictment and hopeful that it > might be the beginning of > the end... Is there some law in privileged-class America that says that a person must have a childish and ridiculous nickname? > And after Bush and Rummy and Rove and Cheney and > Condi and the rest of them > are convicted, "bring 'em on" and let them watch > this video, 24/7, from > their cells at Abu Ghraib or the kennels of > Guantanamo. This isn't really related but, the other day, I had the TV on in my office to try to find out why there were 50 cops in each of two Toronto subway stations that morning (I never did find out why) and there was a story with a clip of Condi and our PM Paul Martin heading into talks. They both stopped at the door and turned around for the clicking cameras, and you could see Condi turn on her practiced toothsome smile and give the little royal wave and then, as they turned their backs again and headed in the door, the smile was turned right off. That was freaky. Kind of Miss America stuff, but Miss A probably would have kept the smile on longer. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:19:11 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Sheryl talks Joni Hey Bob, Thanks for giving me some fodder to irritate my Sheryl- loving /Joni-dismissing friends. PLUS WORLDDDD TURNNNINIGGG I love Lindsey on that song.It makes me start singing it to just see the title. I am off to play it now. That opening with the fade in just too cool.. EVERYBODY TRYING TO SAY I'M WRONG>>>>>>>>>>>>> I GOTTA GET MY FEET BACK ON THE GROUND!!! and that rift throughout...... One of his best but then GO INSANE puts me over the top. NP: World Turning LOUD From the November 2005 issue of Vanity Fair, Sheryl Crow contributes an article called "25 For The Road" listing her top 25 road-trip albums. They don't seem to be in any order, not numbered or anything. Among them is Hejira, and here's what Sheryl says: "There are just not that many women singer-songwriter-poet-performing artists who consistently move me. Joni Mitchell has and still does. Her album Hejira in many ways changed how I look at music, from the standpoint of creating what I refer to as "cinematography" for each song - in other words, the way a song should come across visually. I studied the song 'Hejira' like a handbook because its imagery of what it feels like to always be leaving or coming home so heavily resonated with me. I have admired Joni Mitchell, particularly during her early years, for giving voice to what we all sense sometimes: that we are searching for what feels like home." Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "World Turning Janine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records You betcha! It's always fun to have the proper ammunition, since almost everyone lists Joni as a fave or an influence. And the rest of Sheryl's list was pretty awesome as well: Pat Metheny Group - Offramp Neil Young - Harvest The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers Johnny Cash - The Essential Johnny Cash Ryan Adams & The Cardinals - Cold Roses Elton John - Tumblewood Connection Lynyrd Skynyrd - The Best Of The Beatles - Let It Be George Harrison - All Things Must Pass Steve Miller Band - Greatest Hits James Taylor - Sweet Baby James Ray LaMontagne - Trouble EmmyLou Harris - Red Dirt Girl Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited Bob Dylan - Nashville Skyline Beck - Sea Change The Allman Bros. - Eat A Peach Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac (with World Turning) Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska Deerk & The Dominos - Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs Doyle Bramhall II - Jellycream Foo Fighters - One By One Steve Earle - Copperhead Road Tom Petty - Damn The Torpedoes Remember that her choices are based on road trip records and not necessarily "Best Ever" albums. What are YOUR favorites for the road? I'd have to have me some Stevie Wonder (Fulfillingness or Innervisions), Loggins & Messina's Motherlode, and John Mayer's "Room For Squares"...oh, and Counting Crows "August & Everything After". Awrite! Let's hit the road! Bob NP: Dusty, "I Don't Want To Hear It Anymore" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:52:55 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: New Desktop Pic Got an inspiration at 1AM and created this new desktop picture. I'll leave the song as a surprise. You can download the widescreen version here http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2UA8ACT209N202M4FRRAT3LBSK or the 1200 X 1024 resolution here http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05YW57AQ9O3CD1TFVI9FXYFHRT Enjoy. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:35:32 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, another round for these creeps and these soldiers Catherine wrote: >Is there some law in privileged-class America that >says that a person must have a childish and ridiculous >nickname? > LOL...quelle coincidence that you would ask that today! I just this morning heard how he got his nickname. I had figured it was some prep school or college frat thing, but no. His dad gave it to him when he was a baby, because he would scoot around his crib. What a talented, precocious child, eh? And now he scoots around the truth, so maybe it's an appropriate moniker after all. Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:33 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: NJC - Hurricane (Kris Delmhorst) Hello, All - Michael Paz wrote: > I am praying to hear from the > >reat > >of my Florida contingent (Ming? Jerry? JEB??? LOL sorry humor1) CHECK IN > >EVERYBODY! I'm on Florida's southeast side (closer to Ft. Lauderdale) and we got power (and phone) back at 6:30 Wednesday night... after losing it at 6:30 Monday morning - we're basically okay, albeit shaken. Minor home and car damage, major tree and landscape devastation - thankfully, we had enough canned food and bottled water to get us through. We're a far cry from normal - Thursday afternoon was the first I ventured out of my neighborhood and it was all I could do not to cry. It's like a war zone - all traffic lights are out (making for terrifying driving), gas lines are miles (and hours) long and there is a curfew - I finally made it to the grocery store yesterday morning and spent 90 minutes and $250 (although no dairy, meats or frozen foods and few fresh fruits and vegetables). Haven't had garbage pick-up in a week - the swales (grassy curbs) are piled high with trashbags full of leaves and discarded perishables... Can't believe this isn't all over the national news - it could most certainly be worse (Katrina)... but it's still very bad. Bright side (no pun intended): With almost 100% electricity out in three counties (Dade, Broward and Palm Beach) Monday and Tuesday nights, the sky was amazing - we sat on the back patio marveling at Venus, the Milky Way and infinite stars (reminiscent of Falcon Ridge... :-) Pearl, how did you fare?... <3 Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com "But after all the colored lights are gone Time will leave the ashes and the dawn You rise and meet the day..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:07:02 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: RE: guns guns guns NJC Mags wrote: I think that someone might suggest to that person who posted that he might consider signing up for the NRA discussion list, where he might find a few more sympathisers. Hi Mags, You just did. I was glad he posted what he did to the list rather than sending it privately to the UKer's on the JMDL. It is an interesting topic. Very good of him to seek opinions knowing that he would probably receive some different from his own. Hearing both sides of an issue is good for growth. Duality... something that appeals to me in Joni's songs and on this list. It wouldn't be as much of a Joni Mitchell discussion list in my opinion if we didn't take on some of Joni's characteristics like duality which thrives on controversy and follows right behind outspoken and poetic which are the most colorful. I'm glad you and Lucy posted on the guns issue. I had a hard time not posting since I don't fit the UK condition... couldn't even fake the accent because of my southern one. I'll post to your posts though if you don't mind. I liked what Lucy posted. Nice peace of mind she has without private citizens owning guns. A totally gun free society would be great in my opinion. If it happened in the USA, I'd like to see both individual citizens and government workers studying war no more, all arms laid down. Very nice thought, a weapon free existence. I'd add a vegetarian construct to the dream too. End the violence against animals. Get rid of the barbaric death penalty, and support women so they wouldn't need abortions. Thoughts of a perfect world... Too bad our's isn't. Day by day, stone by stone... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:00:50 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records hi >>>bob asked >>>>>> What are YOUR favorites for the road? I'd have to have me some Stevie >>>>>> Wonder (Fulfillingness or Innervisions), Loggins & Messina's >>>>>> Motherlode, and John Mayer's "Room For Squares"...oh, and Counting >>>>>> Crows "August & Everything After". Awrite! Let's hit the road! well - having just completed a fairly long trip - 900 miles to the tip of africa yesterday & fly back today - i have to say the best driving music i had with me was steve earls the revolution starts here, & tanita tikaram's best of - the bottle rockets brooklyn side also gets a honourable mention. hejira just didnt do it for me (heresy!?!?!?!) - probably great for nice leisurely trips but a long distance high speed run needs something a little bit more oomphy - you really dont want to get too lost in the music :-) ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: RE: guns guns guns NJC well Laura, thank you for sharing your thoughts. If there is anything Ive learned in the over five years of being on this list, and knowing several people well, in particular the instigator of this gun discussion, it's that there are those of us who clearly do not agree with gun ownership. I speak my "peace" to . because I can, and because I am not of the mind that there needs be some eutopian dream extrapolated from the fact that guns/gun ownership are not something Im comfortable with, for many reasons, which I will not get into in public. As I said to Lucy on the phone this morning, yea, she's my sister, we talk all the time, It is impossible for me as a Canadian to fully grasp the need to own several guns and keep them in one's home, just in case. In case what. Well, Im keeping a good strong check on what more I will say about this. As for the person who posted, too bad it's not so innocent. Lucy said the Ukers are like that too. And btw, Im not interested in a debate over whether or not aforementioned person who posted should be defended. Trust me, you doint want to take me there. You are walking a fine line with that one. with integrity and much dignity, Mags. LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: Mags wrote: I think that someone might suggest to that person who posted that he might consider signing up for the NRA discussion list, where he might find a few more sympathisers. Hi Mags, You just did. I was glad he posted what he did to the list rather than sending it privately to the UKer's on the JMDL. It is an interesting topic. Very good of him to seek opinions knowing that he would probably receive some different from his own. Hearing both sides of an issue is good for growth. Duality... something that appeals to me in Joni's songs and on this list. It wouldn't be as much of a Joni Mitchell discussion list in my opinion if we didn't take on some of Joni's characteristics like duality which thrives on controversy and follows right behind outspoken and poetic which are the most colorful. I'm glad you and Lucy posted on the guns issue. I had a hard time not posting since I don't fit the UK condition... couldn't even fake the accent because of my southern one. I'll post to your posts though if you don't mind. I liked what Lucy posted. Nice peace of mind she has without private citizens owning guns. A totally gun free society would be great in my opinion. If it happened in the USA, I'd like to see both individual citizens and government workers studying war no more, all arms laid down. Very nice thought, a weapon free existence. I'd add a vegetarian construct to the dream too. End the violence against animals. Get rid of the barbaric death penalty, and support women so they wouldn't need abortions. Thoughts of a perfect world... Too bad our's isn't. Day by day, stone by stone... Love, Laura let us go then you and i ~t.s.eliot~ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: RE: guns guns guns NJC PS I miswrote something and would like to revisit that....re: "the UKers are like that too", what I meant to say is that Lucy told me that the UKers see no need for (hand)gun ownership either, same as Canadians. It's just not how we are. Blessed be the peace makers. As I said in my previous post, it's fine line that's about to be crossed over. I appeal to you to NOT go there. Im usually pretty level headed about what I say on the list, however, I feel strong enough to say: be careful the assumptions you make and about what you assign to someone that you dont know as well as I do. That not so innocent post/query as to what the UKers think about that gun or lack thereof situation is akin to stepping into a landmine imho. He knows exactly what he's doing. Damn right it belongs off list. and no one would respond to it anyway. Why should they. enough said, Mags let us go then you and i ~t.s.eliot~ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:38:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: the same situations Dear Patti P. (and the rest of us JMOQP's) - or whatever Last night i dreamt, that somebody loved me..And i dreamt that you called me, Patti, and you know You can always Call me The lines are open...In my dream your voice was raspy, dark, I guess almost like Jonis. And i just wanted to tell you that your imaginative call made me smile...:-) Anyway - Nuri ,My eptiaph would go: If you're feeling contempt Well then you tell it If you're tired of the silent night Jesus well then you yell it or maybe Send me somebody Who's strong and somewhat sincere With the millions of the lost and lonely ones I called out to be released Jonis voice is best whenever listened to - - - And I think that cigarettes should also be marked with NB! Can give you a marvelous singing voice. I like that old-joni smoked up voice. I like the sound of her her little smoking sighs. The sound of her lips, her breath giving that little extra sound of, well lets call it immortality, on her latest work. Jonis version of "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock is amazing , warmly recomended! Then I have to share the rest of the story I started on some weeks ago. My lost discman was refound. Someone gave it back, so I could get it at the tube station. And my Songs of a prairie girl was still there. Anyway Les in London had saved my day and weekend by sending me an extra copy, and this was before I knew that I would get the discman back. So last week me and a friend was sitting on the bus. I handed her my discman with Jericho, from DJRD. And afterwards she heard the old version of Paprika plains. My friend is a music teacher and her main instrument is the piano, and she found Jonis music lovely. So I, the joni-missionary man, spread the word and gave her the copy of SOAPG that Les had sent to me. And besides she borrowed my new DJRD, because it was one of those rainy nights, when she needed Comfort and consultation, and who can offer better comfort than our lady of duality our queen of mind beauty. Like Love, Jonis music is a story told to a friend It's second hand- but it's new- Just like Jericho -you know "Let these walls come tumbling down" Walt- I hope your lover recover, your both very brave! Sherelle- I hope to hear your music soon Mark in Sydney- Your desktop art is beautiful, very inspiring for all of us Karen Marie- We are all very excited to read your thesis Patti P. You always makes me smile, laughing and crying (it''s the same relief...) Marianne - Thanks for your very warm arrangments and compliments for my posts Les- in London - you made me believe in human kind once more Because as Patti Smith says in her amazing, warm and very powerful song- People have the power: I believe everything we dream can come to pass through our union we can turn the world around we can turn the earth's revolution we have the power People have the power ... Love Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: guns guns guns NJC Well, of course, for the longest time I thought it was for when the inevitable BLACK CRACK ADDICT came to my door and wanted to steal my worldly goods to support his habit (after raping my wife, of course), but then I realized I have no worldly goods of value! No guns...no jewelry...no cash...no nuttin'. Like how much would said BLACK CRAZED CRACKHEAD get for a handful of Joni Mitchell covers compilations? It would be a zen moment watching him try to cash any of those puppies in for anything, lemme tell you. So, I'm no longer living in fear of the aforementioned CRAZY BLACK DRUGFIEND, but another thought hit me that semi-inspires me to own a handgun... What if MICHAEL BOLTON decides to cover a Joni song??? I'd have to buy it!! I'd have to listen to it!!! My option would be to take a frying pan and kill myself by beating myself in the head with it, and that would really suck - I mean, ONE HIT with the pan surely wouldn't do it, and it would HURT like a sumbitch! And what if I didn't kill myself with aforementioned cookware but merely beat my brain to the IQ of a typical Bush-lovin' South Carolinian?? That would be awful, beyond awful really. So, I've GOT to get a gun in case Michael Bolton decides to cover a Joni song. No other way out as far as I can tell. Bob, double-checking all the locks and staying miles away from MichaelBolton.com... NP: The White Stripes, "St. James Infirmary" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:57:57 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: guns guns guns NJC Mags wrote: thank you for sharing your thoughts. Hi Mags, You are welcome. Peace. I'm all for studying war no more. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:51:01 +0200 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: the same situations Hi, Oddmund! Many thanks for your post! reading a quote from Same Situation... it's a jewel, always (and it's Joni at her most lovely voice, for me) I must say I'm with you in your wishes (and your joy at finding again SOAP... and a new Joni friend!) and of course Patti Smith's People Have The POWER!!! do you know Dan Bern? it's the SingerSongwriter of the week in acousticharmonies list. He gives us his "We will not be divided" song: you can check it in http://www.messengerrecords.com/sounds/Revolution_Begins.mp3 http://danbern.com/anthemslyrics.html#revolution it's like This Land is Your Land... more universal Jesus in the desert Moses in the sea Mohammed on that mountain And the I and the me, become we Guantanamo to Wall Street Islamabad to Church Street The moon to Mercury We will not be divided, my friends We will not be divided ditto. Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Randall & Claudia: Closer To Home (??) (still mesmerized...) Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: >Dear Patti P. (and the rest of us JMOQP's) - or whatever >Last night i dreamt, that somebody loved me..And i dreamt that you called me, Patti, and you know You can always Call me >The lines are open...In my dream your voice was raspy, dark, I guess almost like Jonis. And i just wanted to tell you that your imaginative call made me smile...:-) > >Anyway - Nuri ,My eptiaph would go: > > If you're feeling contempt >Well then you tell it >If you're tired of the silent night >Jesus well then you yell it > > >or maybe > >Send me somebody >Who's strong and somewhat sincere >With the millions of the lost and lonely ones >I called out to be released > >Jonis voice is best whenever listened to - - - And I think that cigarettes should also be marked with NB! Can give you a marvelous singing voice. I like that old-joni smoked up voice. I like the sound of her her little smoking sighs. The sound of her lips, her breath giving that little extra sound of, >well lets call it immortality, on her latest work. Jonis version of "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock is amazing , warmly recomended! > > > >Then I have to share the rest of the story I started on some weeks ago. My lost discman was refound. Someone gave it back, so I could get it at the tube station. And my Songs of a prairie girl was still there. Anyway Les in London had saved my day and weekend by sending me an extra copy, and this was before I knew that I would get the discman back. So last week me and a friend was sitting on the bus. I handed her my discman with Jericho, from DJRD. And afterwards she heard the old version of Paprika plains. My friend is a music teacher and her main instrument is the piano, and she found Jonis music lovely. So I, the joni-missionary man, spread the word and gave her the copy of SOAPG that Les had sent to me. And besides she borrowed my new DJRD, because it was one of those rainy nights, when she needed Comfort and consultation, and who can offer better comfort than our lady of duality our queen of mind beauty. Like Love, Jonis music is a story told to a friend >It's second hand- but it's new- Just like Jericho -you know >"Let these walls come tumbling down" > > >Walt- I hope your lover recover, your both very brave! > >Sherelle- I hope to hear your music soon > >Mark in Sydney- Your desktop art is beautiful, very inspiring for all of us > >Karen Marie- We are all very excited to read your thesis >Patti P. You always makes me smile, laughing and crying (it''s the same relief...) >Marianne - Thanks for your very warm arrangments and compliments for my posts >Les- in London - you made me believe in human kind once more > >Because as Patti Smith says in her amazing, warm and very powerful song- People have the power: >I believe everything we dream >can come to pass through our union >we can turn the world around >we can turn the earth's revolution >we have the power >People have the power ... > >Love >Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:08:15 +0100 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: guns guns guns NJC Oh, my, Bob! Yes you're right! That would be too Aaawwwful. But, if that day comes, you'll promise me two things: First, you *won't need to actually listen it* Second, if you buy some gun, it will be only for some sort of cerimony of distroying that MBoolton's cd. Of course, you'll invite us all, and I'll bring good sea food & the best galician wine. (just like Brian Eno sang: "I'll come running to tie your shoes") Thanks for bringing up a little humour in this, Man! Have a great Samain/ Halloween! Emiliano NP: Julia Fordham: Concrete Love (oh, no! The JoniFest recordings are coming to its end!) Bob Muller wrote: >Canadian to fully grasp the need to own several guns and >keep them in one's home, just in case. In case what.> > >Well, of course, for the longest time I thought it was for when the inevitable BLACK CRACK ADDICT came to my door and wanted to steal my worldly goods to support his habit (after raping my wife, of course), but then I realized I have no worldly goods of value! No guns...no jewelry...no cash...no nuttin'. > >Like how much would said BLACK CRAZED CRACKHEAD get for a handful of Joni Mitchell covers compilations? It would be a zen moment watching him try to cash any of those puppies in for anything, lemme tell you. So, I'm no longer living in fear of the aforementioned CRAZY BLACK DRUGFIEND, but another thought hit me that semi-inspires me to own a handgun... > >What if MICHAEL BOLTON decides to cover a Joni song??? I'd have to buy it!! I'd have to listen to it!!! My option would be to take a frying pan and kill myself by beating myself in the head with it, and that would really suck - I mean, ONE HIT with the pan surely wouldn't do it, and it would HURT like a sumbitch! And what if I didn't kill myself with aforementioned cookware but merely beat my brain to the IQ of a typical Bush-lovin' South Carolinian?? That would be awful, beyond awful really. > >So, I've GOT to get a gun in case Michael Bolton decides to cover a Joni song. No other way out as far as I can tell. > >Bob, double-checking all the locks and staying miles away from MichaelBolton.com... > >NP: The White Stripes, "St. James Infirmary" > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:10:46 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: guns guns guns NJC Bob wrote: So, I've GOT to get a gun in case Michael Bolton decides to cover a Joni song. No other way out as far as I can tell. Hi Bob, I'd recommend getting a case instead and bolting from Michael bolton to where you can party on for evermore. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 02:50:55 +0200 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: NJC Re: Sheryl talks Joni - Road Trippin' records Hi! Hit the road, Jack! Humm, Hejira... doesn't fit in all the roads, I guess... for me live albums are a must so you can bet MOA is in every long trip I do (of course *that*...) Loggins & Messina's Finale, Van Morrison at The Waterfront, Pentangle's Sweet Child... some Eric Clapton's 70's-very-pop compilation I've made (remember Promises? It never fails to lift me up)... and I remember a tape by Enrique Morente with the Orquesta Andalusi' de Tanger, singing up loud: "Se te cayo el anillo dentro del pozo, dicen que quien lo encuentre sera tu novio" (You've lost your ring into the well, they say who finds it will be your bride)... it was the highlight crossin Castillian plains. But I digress... Kisses for Y'All! Emiliano NP: Joni Mitchell: Both Sides Now (2000 version) ron wrote: > hi > > > >>>bob asked > >>>>>>> What are YOUR favorites for the road? I'd have to have me some >>>>>>> Stevie Wonder (Fulfillingness or Innervisions), Loggins & >>>>>>> Messina's Motherlode, and John Mayer's "Room For Squares"...oh, >>>>>>> and Counting Crows "August & Everything After". Awrite! Let's >>>>>>> hit the road! >>>>>> > > > well - having just completed a fairly long trip - 900 miles to the tip > of africa yesterday & fly back today - i have to say the best driving > music i had with me was steve earls the revolution starts here, & > tanita tikaram's best of - the bottle rockets brooklyn side also gets > a honourable mention. hejira just didnt do it for me (heresy!?!?!?!) - > probably great for nice leisurely trips but a long distance high speed > run needs something a little bit more oomphy - you really dont want to > get too lost in the music :-) > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:56:46 -0400 From: Subject: RE: justice hopefully at last NJC The special prosecutor ran a very tight investigation, meaning that there were no reliable leaks to the press. I wish everyone in the Administration had as much professionalism, as much respect for democracy, and as clear a vision of the historical, reasonable, and ethical limits to his power. If he runs for anything, I'll support him. It looks like he has the goods on Libby. (Wasn't Libby the last name of one of the major co-conspirators in the Watergate burglary which brought down a different war time Republican president? Hmmm, what would Carl Jung say?) Anyway, I'm with Kate this time. All the best, Jim ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #407 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)