From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #393 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 16 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 393 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject: Re: Having a bad day?/NJC [Lucy Hone ] Re: Subject: Re: Having a bad day?/NJC [Smurf ] the prayer cycle njc art turner / cheryl wheeler [mags h ] Re: A Case of You Explained [Catherine McKay ] Woody Allen, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: A Case of You Explained [vince ] Chris Botti (KKSF) talks about Joni [est86mlm@ameritech.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:29:21 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Subject: Re: Having a bad day?/NJC Hi, Mack This sort of happening does serve us as a reminder of how lucky we are. My son has asthma and nearlly died when he was 4. But he is now 17 and pretty much OK and has inhalers etc for when necessary. Cystic Fibrosis used to be a death sentance at early teenage years. Those with CF are lucky with the advances in medicine and physiotherapy and an understanding of the genetics of this horrible disease.... In one of the local schools I went to in my time with Barnardo's, there were non identical "cystic" twins and they did look really ill a lot of the time. Each year I visited the school there they would be, more fragile and a little smaller than the others. THEN!!! I visited the school and there were the twins, one of them quite enormously larger than the other. It turned out one of them had received a heart and lung transplant which had transformed them and the other was on a waiting list for a suitable donor. For all I know that will have happened now. www.cff.org is worth visiting for US information and for the UK www.cftrust.org.uk is full of information With so many of these diseases organ donation is the key to a better life. Sam, Liz, Frank and I are all organ donor card carriers. If there is anything useful left behind when I dont need it someone who can use it is welcome. Humanity has to step past squeamishness and sign up. For some people organ donation may be the only good thing they do at the end of a life that left no impact on the world... I would favour an OPT OUT system so that organ donation was the norm and you had to say if you really did not want to be useful after death. We can micro-chip NO into our bodies and have the chip scanned at the appropriate time... I am sure there will be those who think my standpoint odd but I just think its really important that we think in terms of our bodies as the ultimate recycling effort....after your death you can transform the life of someone who has never been able to live any life at all... What a thing to do.. Of course if you have had a long term illness you would not, maybe, be able to donate anything but corneas but that makes a huge difference to those with cataracts... What an odd thing to be thinking about on a Saturday morning with a bright blue sky and temperatures up in the 60s (15+c) great. I love autumn Might get the bikes fired up and go for a blat.... Happy days to you all and if you do nothing else today........ sign up as organ donors. Lucy in the UK NP KT Tunstall "Big black horse and the cherry tree" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 05:26:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Having a bad day?/NJC - --- HRH Lucy wrote: > If there is anything useful left behind when I dont > need it someone who > can use it is welcome. Can we put in our requests now? XO, - --Smurf PS: You've talked me into it, Lucy. I used to be an organ donor -- in Massachusetts it's noted on driver licenses -- but I let that lapse while I was living in other states. I have to go to the Registry of Motor Vehicles soon. I will make a point of becoming a donor. __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 07:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: the prayer cycle njc art turner / cheryl wheeler Anne, I love the Prayer Cycle too, discovered it a few years ago.... Adored Nusrat Aleh Fateh Khan sings on this too. Haunting, soul touching, I love his voice so. Linda Rondstadt is on this too. I love James Taylor's song too. My words cannot begin to do justice to the soundscape. Gorgeous. I often go on and on ad nauseum about the incredible wealth of music in WInnipeg, and last night's intimate concert was exceptional. A fund raising effort arranged for the CBC radio staff who have been affected by a two month long walk out... (fortunately they settled and are back in full schwing!) . the acts were as follows: Eagle and Hawk, fantastic...powerhouse of a first nations band of brothers who have performed all around the globe. love them! Cara Luft founding member of the Wailin Jennys ; awesome as usual! acoustic guitar, electric guitar, mando Justin LaCroix acoustic guitarist/singer/songwriter/voice extraordinaire (bilangue, brilliant) Art Turner...he is an incredible guitarist...finger style...knocked the socks off everyone in the room. Ive heard Art perform at the Winnipeg Folk Festival (2004) .. he's channeling Michael Hedges...that should give you and idea of the calibre of his talent. Art performed with Cheryl Wheeler in Colorado ( i think??) and had many a great and hilarious tale to tell about CHeryl. I feel so fortunate that Art has agreed to a house concert ... so Im getting that one under way too. ( do check him out, Im sure he has a web site) Amazing ... he's only been playing for ten years...how is this possible??? Wait until you hear him and you'll understand why I say this....think not only Michael Hedges, throw in some WIll Ackerman and Alex Degrassi, and you might begin to get an notion. big WOW. He becomes one with the guitar....fantastic. Oh for the Bruce fans, he played Foxglove, brilliantly. Jeremy Proctor..wonderful presence in the Winnipeg music scene....acoustic guitar, song writer, was recently busking across Europe...spent a tonne of time in Barcelona ... Mike , you may have seen him on some corner somewhere ;-) ...she racks her brains trying hard to remember who the sixth person was..... oh yes...Patrick Keenan, keyboard/vocalist , backs up a lot of local musicians...especially Jeremy :-) He's got a great energy...love his work. the magic about this evening began as I climbed the worn to a groove ancient stairs to the second floor...(up the ladder to the roof)...to be greeted by Isaac, who looks like something out of a film....tall, willowy, welcoming presence that lit the room up wherever he went....And what a night it was.... a brilliant,sparkling, starrystarry night here in the Peg. Below the venue, Rag Pickers, a wonderful out of this world costume/vintage clothing place where you could spend days on end dressing up in your favourite outfits.. in the span of an hour or so, I became royalty, a rootin tootin cowgal, a roit lady with her big orange crinolin and chapeau a la something out of my fair lady....what a hoot ! back up the stairs, a veritable library with all of your favourite books (no dogbooks there ;-) ... so says inhouse Thomas...anyway it turns out it's a second hand bookstore...and then out on that aforementioned roof, a skyescape that took my breath away...a funky fire pit...wooden boards teetering precariously beneath my feet... I was dizzy with excitement....magical characters dressed up in period costumes...such fun...suspended reality. The area with the stage... is used for various theatrical adventures in town, especially during times of the Fringe Festival in the summer time. A gorgeous wooden stage...so much atmosphere, lots of old settees, and funk from many eras. On into the wee hours, reminiscent of a joni fest of the most magical kind....I did a couple of Joni tunes accapella, in the bookstore, which was fun...getting ready for tonight, a musical jamm here at home. A gaggle of guitarists and singers about to land.. love it. Life is good. Life keeps getting better and better each and every day my roots become firmly planted deep into rich sienna soil. I've never been happier, with the exception of welcometomyworld beautiful babies. no longer Thanksgiving officially, however, that spirit lives on, especially now. Thanks to the angels in my life. You know who you are ;-) the view from my room, brilliant sun paints shadows and light across slate grey rooftops ... Mags. you could move mountains with the words you do not say ~mark reeves~ www.markreeves.com www.jeremyproctor.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:18:43 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: A Case of You Explained I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but, I've often wondered what A Case of You was about. It seems like a sad song, about breaking up with someone you find hard to let go of. I've never read any explanation of it until now. Finally, on Joni's Live At Red Rocks concert, Joni gives a short introduction to the song. She compares the sentiment to Pat Benatar's, Hit Me With Your Best Shot and she emphasises the chorus, "I could drink a case of you and STILL be ON-MY-FEET". This leads me to think it is about losing the feeling for someone. Yet, on the other hand, there are the lyrics, "I am a lonely painter". Is that regret? Mark in Sydney NP Wild Things Run Fast (Live At Red Rocks) - JM PS Excellent concert BTW. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:06:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A Case of You Explained - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but, > I've often wondered > what A Case of You was about. It seems like a sad > song, about breaking > up with someone you find hard to let go of. I've > never read any > explanation of it until now. Finally, on Joni's Live > At Red Rocks > concert, Joni gives a short introduction to the > song. She compares the > sentiment to Pat Benatar's, Hit Me With Your Best > Shot and she > emphasises the chorus, "I could drink a case of you > and STILL be > ON-MY-FEET". This leads me to think it is about > losing the feeling for > someone. Yet, on the other hand, there are the > lyrics, "I am a lonely > painter". Is that regret? > > Mark in Sydney > > NP Wild Things Run Fast (Live At Red Rocks) - JM > In her concert at the Hague in 1983 (which I put in the mail to you yesterday, along with those for a few others who had asked for it - better late than never), she explains it as a "drinker's boast" - how you can drink a case of the other person's feelings and still be standing (something like that.) "I am a lonely painter." Yeah, I think it's a bit of regret. I don't think that a person who is truly an artist, be it in music, paint or words, can maintain a lasting relationship with a human lover. It seems that the muse demands too much. I'm not sure if that is altogether what Joan is saying, but, it's strange, I was just reading something about Lucinda Williams (whom I also love for her earthy, pithy, sometimes-gritty, sometimes-poetic stories of love, life and loss). The story said that Lucinda had had many relationships but remains single, because (and here I'm paraphrasing quite a bit) it's hard to remain true to one's art and devote that kind of time and energy to a relationship. I think many of us spend a good deal of our time and energy looking and longing for something that, at first, seems unattainable, but, once we've attained it, we regret the freedom we had before we attained the apparently unattainable. (We love our loving, but not like we love our freedom.) Or, in more prosaic terms, the grass ia always greener on the other side of the fence. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:25:14 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Woody Allen, njc I went to a jazz club tonight and was seated next to a 50- something jewish woman, and her mother, a camp survivor and jazz fan. During intermission, the mother indicated she met a man at a party last night who would take her to a race track so she can drive a porsche, and the daughter was threatening to have her license revoked if she did. After defending her reflexes, the mother said that since she can't smoke and ski anymore all she's got left is driving and she loves it, and she wants to drive a porsche. The daughter said ; < not my fault if the doctor forbid you to smoke and if you broke your hip skiing. Why don't you jump parachute ?>, and then she turned to me and explained how her girlfriends barely managed to talk her mother out of doing parachute-skiing last time. I asked whether she had been in any traffic accident, and the mother said : < not since 1951, and then nobody got hurt so it was not a real accident >. I think I will ask the mother on a date. She's too much fun. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:43:42 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: A Case of You Explained >--- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > > > >>she >>emphasises the chorus, "I could drink a case of you >>and STILL be >>ON-MY-FEET". >> Pardon me for being low class (and I am) but I have always thought that that line works so exquisitely well because besides all the other poetic and metaphysical aspects of that line, it also has a charming sexual aspect to it. Genius makes the overtly sexual sublime and not pornographic. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:17:09 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Chris Botti (KKSF) talks about Joni Found this while looking for some information on Chris Botti. It's an older interview, I believe (can't find the date). http://www.kksf.com/theartists4.html Didn't find this in the JMDL library so don't know how many have read this before. Chris answers the question: Who was the most difficult and the most demanding of all those people? I mean in a professional way. Who's the stickler?" CB: You know, one of my favorites, and that would be probably Joni Mitchell. But she is very, very detailed and very, very specific about what she wants, and at the same time it's very open ended. There's so much freedom, but yet there's no freedom. She's an artist and I think that she really sees things like a painter, and she sees music as if it were being painted. And she's right all the time, you know. And I would consider her, probably, to be the most demanding person that I have worked with and one my most gratifying tours. ******************************* Thought someone might find this interesting (and the whole interview) like I did. Enjoy! Laura O. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #393 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)