From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #390 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, October 13 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 390 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Dreamland stream line video ["vincenzo mancini" ] Re: Dolly's BSN, njc [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Dolly's BSN, njc ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Dolly's BSN, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni and Canada [Jamie Zubairi ] re: Ian Shaw's Joni Tribute & other Covers news ["mike pritchard" ] my birthday trip, niagra falls njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! [Randolph Notestine ] Re: the biggest pothead of all, njc ["Arkay O'Malley" ] Re: Carly Simon NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! (U.S. PC) [Smurf ] RE: Dolly's BSN, njc [Bob Muller ] RE: now NYC minifest njc ["patrick leader" ] Re: (NJC) House Concert at Ashara's [Michael Paz ] Re: (NJC) House Concert at Ashara's [Bob Muller ] Re: Dolly's BSN, njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Calling all computer nerds - njc [Catherine McKay ] njc, Cindy Sheehan shows 'em we won't expire ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! (U.S. PC) [Debra Shea Subject: Dreamland stream line video There's a stream line video advertising Dreamland at http://www.rhino.com/retrovid/VideoKeeper.lasso?Artist=Joni%20Mitchell&Partner= Did that already emerge? Nothing new but there's at least one painting (detail) and one photo I've never seen... V ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:44:38 -0400 From: BWORKMAN@woh.rr.com Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc And, Why do you include the songwriters aand folks like Yusuf Islam, Kris Kristofferson, Judy Collins, Mary Hopkin and the rest, and make them frigging inaudible? All you can really hear is the dobro and Dolly's voice. To say it was disappointing is an understatement Brian W (delurking a moment) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 0:11 am Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc > LOL. Thanks for that Bob. After that build up, I had to check it > out for > myself. I'd say you nailed it. Does Dolly murdering BSN qualify > as JC? > > Has that been sped up, or did Nashville legalize amphetamines? > > Jim L'Hommedieu, > who shot performance photos of Sherelle Cary Smith even before her > firstconcert: > http://home.fuse.net/jlamadoo/SHERELLE_composite_2002_by_Lama.jpg > > Bob Muller said, >Well, I'm no Dolly fan, but she's been making > records a > whole lot longer than I've been buying them, so what do I know? At > least she > has the sense and the popularity to draw some great talent to surround > herself with. And of course, by law, she includes a duet with > Norah Jones. > > Here's her take on the franchise, very peppy and some nice > instrumental work > too. Additional vocals by Judy Collins & Rhonda Vincent, mandolin > by Chris > Thile of Nickel Creek, he's no Les Irvin, but he's OK. Just try > and block > out Dolly's "we represent the lullaby league" vocal and you've got > a solid > track. > > http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YDDVQCKYWORX2YTQO84KA1Z05 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc A fine observation, Brian - it really comes off as a gimmick (shades of Joni surrounding herself with celeb voices on CMIARS to ill effect) as opposed to any form of true collaboration. If I didn't know that Judy Collins was on the track I would never have figured it out just by listening to it. Then again, what is there to Dolly Parton if not for gimmickry? Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Bodhisattva" (always gets me revved up) - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:16:13 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc #23 on Amazon today so there are a whole lotta people buying it. No samples on Amazon, though. Jerry > LOL. Thanks for that Bob. After that build up, I had to check it out for > myself. I'd say you nailed it. Does Dolly murdering BSN qualify as JC? > > Has that been sped up, or did Nashville legalize amphetamines? > > Jim L'Hommedieu, > who shot performance photos of Sherelle Cary Smith even before her first > concert: > http://home.fuse.net/jlamadoo/SHERELLE_composite_2002_by_Lama.jpg > > Bob Muller said, >Well, I'm no Dolly fan, but she's been making records a > whole lot longer than I've been buying them, so what do I know? At least she > has the sense and the popularity to draw some great talent to surround > herself with. And of course, by law, she includes a duet with Norah Jones. > > Here's her take on the franchise, very peppy and some nice instrumental work > too. Additional vocals by Judy Collins & Rhonda Vincent, mandolin by Chris > Thile of Nickel Creek, he's no Les Irvin, but he's OK. Just try and block > out Dolly's "we represent the lullaby league" vocal and you've got a solid > track. > > http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YDDVQCKYWORX2YTQO84KA1Z05 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:48:38 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Dolly's BSN, njc The only good thing to say about this is that it will shuffle a few quid ms mitchell's way. A helium -filled bunch of pants, if you ask me. Just the same, thanks for posting it. les > > http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YDDVQCKYWORX2YTQO84KA1Z05 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:03:58 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc The New York Post gives the CD one-and-a-half stars, calls the album "hokey" and suggests that Dolly "got too close to the back end of a mule." Jerry > The only good thing to say about this is that it will shuffle a few quid ms > mitchell's way. A helium -filled bunch of pants, if you ask me. > > Just the same, thanks for posting it. > > les > >> >> http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YDDVQCKYWORX2YTQO84KA1Z05 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:24:49 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Joni and Canada It is a completely clear jewel-case cover and has 'digitally remastered' on the clear part of the spine (printed on the inside cover, if you like, visible from the clear spine of the cd front cover). COnfused? So instead of the usualy 'blacl plastic spine' that most cds have, this is clear plastic and the specially printed inside cover is visible. I can't remember if it has the silver sticker... I know that most of the early reprise UK re-issues do (ok, am I sounding obssessive, going to music stores just checking the covers and njot buying any... I also hang around the Joni section when there are people flicking through, just to see what they buy..... Yes I am sounding like a stalker of Joni fans... Happy Hunting! Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- JasonMaloney71@aol.com wrote: > Of course you were just testing us, Jamie ;) > > I read the Hinton book before I originally > found/joined the JMDL; needless > to say I no longer have it around! I got Karen > O'Brien's book a few years back > but never finished it, to my shame. Maybe I'll get > round to putting that > right one day. Picked up The One & Only, the biog on > the late, great Kirsty > MacColl last week and noticed it too is written by > Karen. > > As for similarly-titled books/etc on Joni, the DVD > titles always confuse me. > I tend to mix-up Refuge Of The Roads with the '91 > collection featuring > CMIARS/NRH-era clips and footage. > > I can't find that reissued DJRD anywhere in stores > round these parts, > either. Does it have the silver "digitally > remastered" sticker, as with other WSM > reissues by Led Zep, Madonna, The Cars, Bonnie Raitt > and the like? Those come > in clear-spined cases too. > > Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:06:34 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: Ian Shaw's Joni Tribute & other Covers news >>The Wales native accompanied himself on piano for a blues-infused "Case of You'" sang a dramatic (partly a cappella) "Both Sides Now" and rocked the house with a funky "Talk to Me."<< And the Welshman (what's up with 'Wales native'?) has been busy on other fronts... >>Linn Records is pleased to release on Multichannel Super Audio CD Claire Martin's last album, Too Darn Hot!, widely considered to be her best recorded work to date. From Something's Coming from Bernstein's West Side Story, in an exciting new arrangement, to Joni Mitchell's Blue Motel Room, arranged by jazz singer Ian Shaw, the album has many jazz standards and delightful new arrangements of songs from other popular music genres. Too Darn Hot! is Claire's ninth album on Linn Records.<< mike in bcn NP Miss Perfumado, Cesaria Evora ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:16:24 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: njc, Sherelle's concert and CD Querida Sherelle y otros Joniamigos: I know -- I'm late, I'm late, for your very important date. Forgive me for running so behind the times! I am so thrilled to hear of your brilliant concert debut! John and Claudia, thank you so much for sharing the night with such eloquence and heart and soul. I felt almost there. Goosebumpy. Last Monday I got my CD Baby order in my mailbox -- YAHOO! Sherelle, your voice just BLOWS ME AWAY. I am almost speechless. Here we've been writing back and forth like regular people, and I never you knew you had such a GIFT in you. Your soul! Bless you forever for sharing it with others. You're our thrill! You do something to me...you send chills right through me. "I went to see a friend last night" -- my best friend and her daughter (more Joni-content stories on those two crazies in some future post...lol!) -- and brought your CD over and they too were blown away. Janis was cooking our dinner and she just stopped stirring the pot at one point and said: "OH MY GOD! I have goosebumps. That VOICE!!!!!!! Where is this lady from again???" (One of the many reasons I love Janis so much is that, like Joni, she NEVER lies.) (Another reason, and you know there may be more, is that she's a pretty good cook...I love comin' up to her kitchen!) So thank you again, Sherelle, and congratulations on your concert. I hope that in the future you have not just two, but SIXTEEN gentle JMDLers escorting you to these halls! And you know.... Love, Patti P., writing from Morning UConn Town, which is right smack-dab in the middle of Red Sox/Yankee territory, where all the students have put away their baseball colors for the year. Because of Vince and Susan, and because it seems like many dim years ago from 1917, I'm rooting for the White Sox now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Subject: Dolly's BSN Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN (not quite NJC I guess) - --- Bob wrote: > Just try and block out Dolly's "we represent the > lullaby league" vocal and you've got a solid track. Well, a rendition fit for Gatlinburg (or Pigeon Forge). Actually I enjoy the upbeat, down-home approach somewhat, though Joni's 2000 ultra-maudlin version remains my favorite of the 4,461 varieties. One big disappointment with Dolly's cover - uh, is Judy Collins in there somewhere? She could have allowed Judy to sing at least a line or two solo. But no.... Bryan - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:01:32 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: my birthday trip, niagra falls njc Hey, that's terrific that you went to Niagra Falls Deb. . . I hope you liked it. . Niagra Falls is bout 1 and a half hours from my home. . Whether you see it from the Canadian side or the American side, I recommend this trip. AND I like Maids of the Mist. . . For others who do not know, basically you take a trip to the edges of the falls. . (it takes about an hour, and is very affordable, I forgot how much. . like,$10 -15 dollars). . everybody wears clean bright blue rain coats (that they give you) and you go as far up to the falls as you can. . and everybody gets wet. . . and on most days, a RAINBOW can be seen! I like it very much. . Let's go to Niagra falls! Deb, I hope you liked it. . There is a hotel there that you can see the falls from. . I forgot which one, but Bree and her family were there and I think tey were on the 15th floor and had a great view. . and at night, I heard they light the falls up. Marianne Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:19:54 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: my birthday trip NJC So the husband took me took to Niagara Falls - the Canadian side, of course! I have never seen the falls in all my 50 years on the planet. We did all the expected touristy things like Maid of the Mist, _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:09:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: njc, Sherelle's concert and CD My dear Patti-Patti! I love you to pieces!!! That's all I can say! I needed to hear your kind words this morning. You give me strength to keep plugging away! Thank you. I know I'm not alone on that ebb and flow of musical resolve. There are so many Joni performers here that are so fabulously talented and deserving. I would lift us all up to the stars if I could! Also, please give your friend Janis my love and tell her thank you for me! I so appreciate her for saying those things!!!! And now I am waiting for my dose of Joni-isms from you that always make me sing her songs in my head!!! Love, Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org, taracienna@hotmail.com >Subject: RE: njc, Sherelle's concert and CD >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:16:24 +0000 > >Querida Sherelle y otros Joniamigos: > >I know -- I'm late, I'm late, for your very important date. Forgive me for >running so behind the times! > >I am so thrilled to hear of your brilliant concert debut! John and >Claudia, thank you so much for sharing the night with such eloquence and >heart and soul. I felt almost there. Goosebumpy. > >Last Monday I got my CD Baby order in my mailbox -- YAHOO! Sherelle, your >voice just BLOWS ME AWAY. I am almost speechless. Here we've been writing >back and forth like regular people, and I never you knew you had such a >GIFT in you. Your soul! Bless you forever for sharing it with others. >You're our thrill! You do something to me...you send chills right through >me. > >"I went to see a friend last night" -- my best friend and her daughter >(more Joni-content stories on those two crazies in some future post...lol!) >-- and brought your CD over and they too were blown away. Janis was >cooking our dinner and she just stopped stirring the pot at one point and >said: "OH MY GOD! I have goosebumps. That VOICE!!!!!!! Where is this >lady from again???" (One of the many reasons I love Janis so much is that, >like Joni, she NEVER lies.) (Another reason, and you know there may be >more, is that she's a pretty good cook...I love comin' up to her kitchen!) > >So thank you again, Sherelle, and congratulations on your concert. I hope >that in the future you have not just two, but SIXTEEN gentle JMDLers >escorting you to these halls! > >And you know.... > >Love, > >Patti P., writing from Morning UConn Town, which is right smack-dab in the >middle of Red Sox/Yankee territory, where all the students have put away >their baseball colors for the year. Because of Vince and Susan, and >because it seems like many dim years ago from 1917, I'm rooting for the >White Sox now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:59:37 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: Joni and Canada Kate wrote: Calgary is the foothill town she must have been speaking of, in Alberta, where she went to art school. I guarantee you, there are no "mountains rising off in the distance" anywhere near Saskatoon! Kate Yes, no mountains around here - although I live at the very southern tip of the Saskatchewan forest area, if I drive 2 miles south of town, the prairie begins. Even though Kate and I live probably 200 miles from each other, the land is so flat I can just look out the window and wave to her ;) Or at least it feels like it anyway..... of course, Weyerhauser announced last Tuesday they are closing the pulp and paper mills in my town, cutting 700 jobs, so perhaps the forest will spead south.... sorry, lame joke, but with the mill closing, it's like a bad episode of Rosanne around here..... Rob np: Scissor Sisters ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Randolph Notestine Subject: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! 9/11 And the Sport of God (Bill Moyers) http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0909-36.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:56:23 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: the biggest pothead of all, njc Kate wrote: I suspect those who like maryjane like the smoking of it... marijuana is legal here in small doses as medical marijuana... Hi Yous Guys, I think if marijuana is legalized, it ought to be called marianne rather than maryjane. Like who's the biggest pothead on the list anyway? Like why did the helicopter fly so low over her house and blow the trees when I was there... what were they looking for anyway? Why does she like the song Tea Leaf Prophecy so much? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:54:18 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Dolly's BSN, njc Brian wrote: << And, Why do you include the songwriters aand folks like Yusuf Islam, Kris Kristofferson, Judy Collins, Mary Hopkin and the rest, and make them frigging inaudible? >> And Bob replied: << A fine observation, Brian - it really comes off as a gimmick (shades of Joni surrounding herself with celeb voices on CMIARS to ill effect) as opposed to any form of true collaboration. If I didn't know that Judy Collins was on the track I would never have figured it out just by listening to it. >> I agree with that, Bob. There may have been a few good duets albums of this sort, but I certainly can't think of any off the top of my head. Usually they seem to me to symbolize a capitulation to the dictates of record company focus groups and people who use words like synergy without knowing what it really means. The one Frank Sinatra did a few years ago was a joke; Tom Petty and Billy Idol on CMIARS was plain embarrassing; David Bowie getting Tina Turner to sing on Tonight: if you have a graphic equalizer you might just pick up Tina's voice. Commerce and demographics rule, art is the serf. Dolly's new album (Which I have not heard) may indeed be dodgy; and, if tried for it in a UK court, she would have to ask for at least one similar offence to be taken into consideration: Slow Dancing With The Moon had an awful duet with (whisper it) Billy Ray Cyrus and other pointless duets. HOWEVER, Bob, you then go on to say: <> Whooaaah there, easy Tiger! Dolly Parton has written a LOT of great songs over a long period of time. Jolene is a stone classic; Here You Come Again is a superb pop/country tune; then there's The Bargain Store, I Will Always Love You, Nine To Five, Love Is Like A Butterfly, etc etc. I would also like to put in a word for her voice, which to me is a thing of rare beauty, given a good tune. She also seems to be a Jolly Good Egg. Dolly-cast over, we now return you to your regular programmes... Azeem in London NP: Pulp - Weeds - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:40:27 -0500 From: "Arkay O'Malley" Subject: Re: the biggest pothead of all, njc uh-oh-for a second i though it was being outed as the biggest pothead on the list-im glad to see my near lurker status has afforded me a bit of discretion! bwahahahahahaha. now where are those lucky charms? arkay (cough, cough) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: the biggest pothead of all, njc > Kate wrote: > > I suspect those who like maryjane like the smoking of it... marijuana is > legal here in small doses as medical marijuana... > Hi Yous Guys, > > I think if marijuana is legalized, it ought to be called marianne rather > than maryjane. Like who's the biggest pothead on the list anyway? Like > why did > the helicopter fly so low over her house and blow the trees when I was > there... what were they looking for anyway? Why does she like the song > Tea Leaf > Prophecy so much? > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:28:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Shea Subject: Re: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! (U.S. PC) - --- Randolph Notestine wrote: > 9/11 And the Sport of God (Bill Moyers) > http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0909-36.htm Good ole Bill Moyers... I've always liked his "I'm a Baptist, but what does that mean really? how does it affect the way I live my life?," way of wondering about things. He's right about the Democrats being too appeasing. Compromise with the vindictive immoral Republicans now in charge means doing things THEIR way, which of course isn't compromise at all. These Repubs have been very effective at destroying any dissent, not only that of Democrats but also that of moderate Republicans. They're going to do themselves in, though, because their evilness is a destructive force. It's looking now like the fearless prosecutor investigating who leaked classified info is going to start the crumbling of the Bush facade built by Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. The Repubs are already trying to discredit that prosecutor, but without much success so far. (Why that facade was ever seen as the truth by anyone remains a mystery to me. Who in their right mind would ever vote for a self-proclaimed evangelical such as Bush when part of an evangelical's belief is that the end of the world is coming? To them that's a GOOD thing, the sooner the better... we've got to get those wackos out of there! Or at least lessen their power.) So I especially like this from Bill Moyers' speech: "As I look back on the conflicts and clamor of our boisterous past, one lesson about democracy stands above all others: Bullies - political bullies, economic bullies and religious bullies - cannot be appeased; they have to be opposed with a stubbornness to match their own. This is never easy; these guys don't fight fair; "Robert's Rules of Order" is not one of their holy texts. But freedom on any front - and especially freedom of conscience - never comes to those who rock and wait, hoping someone else will do the heavy lifting. Christian realism requires us to see the world as it is, without illusions, and then take it on. Christian realism also requires love. But not a sentimental, dreamy love. Reinhold Niebuhr, who taught at Union Theological Seminary and wrestled constantly with applying Christian ethics to political life, put it this way: "When we talk about love we have to become mature or we will become sentimental. Basically love means...being responsible, responsibility to our family, toward our civilization, and now by the pressures of history, toward the universe of humankind. Christian realists aren't afraid to love. But just as the Irishman who came upon a brawl in the street and asked, "Is this a private fight or can anyone get in it?" we have to take that love where the action is. Or the world will remain a theatre of war between fundamentalists." Debra Shea, counting the days until the 2006 congessional elections and signing up for the battle... one step was saying yes to the call this morning from the Democratic National Committee __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:46:50 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: the biggest pothead of all, njc From a smoke filled cranium, a "lurker" wrote: now where are those lucky charms? Dear Smokey the Bear, At it again? We all know who loves these. Now don't go getting all paranoid on us. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:41:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Shea Subject: Earthquake in Pakistan (NJC) It is hard to get a grip on the extent of the devastation in Pakistan... 5 million people homeless and sleeping outside in the cold wet weather! That would be like every person in Manhattan all of sudden being in the street with no food or shelter, with families and friends lost or injured or dead. I hope the U.S. sends huge amounts of aid to help all those suffering people and that the Pakistani government lets it in even though the people there don't like the U.S. much these days. It does seem like there's more misery in the world in the last few years than ever before. Saddest to me is when people are crying about losing their family... homes can be rebuilt eventually, but losing human connections... that seems like the worst type of destruction to me. Debra Shea __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:33:10 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Carly Simon NJC Hi Michael, I'm still trying to listen to Carly's snippets but life keeps on happening here!!! I did hear a little of one song but I don't think I can form a real opinion on it until I hear more of it. My first impression was that it was a little low for her voice, that's all. I will definitely listen to Rita Coolidge's snippets. I've always like her mellow and soft voice. >From: "Michael O'Malley" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, notaro@stpt.usf.edu, anima_rising@yahoo.ca, >smurfadelica@yahoo.com, josephpalis@yahoo.fr >CC: joni@smoe.org, djb@binkleybarfield.com >Subject: Re: Carly Simon NJC >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:16:14 +0000 > >I must say I was quite disppointed with Carly's latest release of standards >`Moonlight Serenade``. Her ``Torch`` was so much more intimate and >interesting. From the snippets I heard on Amazon, the music and the voice >on Moonlight are flat, bland and lifeless. No edges left. > >In contrast, I stumbled recently onto Rita Collidges's new disc of jazzy >standards, And So is Love, released just this summer. She's Joni's age, and >like Joni, her voice has deepened considerably. Her sound is warm and >smokey. It beats Carly's bland offering hands down, imho. > >Hear it here >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009K8LMK/qid=1129078163/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-3008042-4795331?v=glance&s=music > >Michael in Quebec > >_________________________________________________________________ >Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound >e-mail and attachments. >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the >first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! (U.S. PC) Let's hear it for racial stereotypes, Bill. Bill Moyers said:"But just as the Irishman who came upon a brawl in the street and asked, 'Is this a private fight or can anyone get in it?'" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:46:18 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Earthquake in Pakistan (NJC) Debra wrote: << It is hard to get a grip on the extent of the devastation in Pakistan... 5 million people homeless and sleeping outside in the cold wet weather! >> And there's a fair chance that the actual casualty figures will be a lot higher than the current estimates. There are still villages and towns that have not been accessed by emergency services, army, press or anyone. The distribution of aid where it has got through is haphazard and the weak are going without. The story is already beginning to disappear off the news headlines. That's sadly not a surprise. Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Dolly's BSN, njc Of course you're right, Azeem - I was sorta just throwing a piece of bait out there to see who would bite. Matter of fact, I've been enjoying a White Stripes show from a month back and Jack White does a soul-wrenching take on Jolene. It's a helluva song. And she's written a bunch of good ones like you say, but I'll run from her voice like I would from an REO Spudwagon tune. And also, I will admit to a guilty pleasure regarding celebrity duets; Santana's latest projects sound great to me, and even though they're very contrived, the fact that he's not singing but rather just jamming on his guitar make it more palatable I think. Bob NP: Hole, "Celebrity Skin" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:12:54 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: now NYC minifest njc hey i'm sorry i didn't feel up to hanging. kay was her usual terrific self, especially on 'eyes so bright' and 'hejira' (with paz on guitar), for a small new york audience on a rainy night. she also did 'pink moon' which always warms my heart. i had a lovely dinner with paz and a couple other new orleans refugees on thursday at a great west village fish place. by saturday, i was socialled out, especially since i don't drink any more. best to all, patrick np - barenboim plays ellington In a message dated 10/11/2005 3:15:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suze_1@lycos.com writes: Kay Ashley, in concert two nights ago!!! We want the details and we all wish we could have been there!!!! I missed her whole set!! I got there just as she was ending....arrrggghhh....!!! I couldn't find a parking spot anywhere and it was raining buckets. Instead all I got was this 95.00 parking ticket! LOL. Kay and her friend (sorry I forget your name) Paz and I had dinner at a sushi restaurant. Patrick wasn't feeling up to it, so he headed home afterwards. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:34:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: (NJC) House Concert at Ashara's Hi Kids I have to say a big me too right here. Please go see Lynn who has reached out across the internet to touch me in a way that is usually more like my friends here (with the exception of Smurph who touches MUCH differently). Lynn sings wonderfully and she sent me the entire show she did in Colorado complete with stage banter. We are planning something for the future so please stay tuned for that. I am back thinking about a Jonifest (Pazfest Too-IsaidIWouldNeverDoThisAgainFestival) in these parts cause I need you all to come (PICK ONE) a) down here, b) over here, c) up here, d) back here, e) here to stay. Besides we need the tourism. So just a tease for now but you feel me don't you??? Ashara is planning for 07 so I can get something together for next summer here if you guys are interested. We could invite everyone and everyone could come. I promise I won't house you in the superdorm. Go check out Lynn Skinner and give her a huge hug and kiss for me. Best Paz NP-Somebody More Like You-NickleCreek (from the new record. Check this album out it is their best yet. Rockin'! > Hi Everyone! It's been a long time since I've posted. I am going to host a > house concert at my home in the Boston area on October 28th. Lynn Skinner, a > vocalist from Denver, CO will be singing Joni covers as well as much more. She > will be accompanied on piano by Bob Schlesinger. Les Irvin has heard her sing > as well as some others on the list. I hope lots of you in the area will be > able to make it! Please contact me for more information. > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:44:51 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Break In njc Garrett I am so sorry to hear about this. What a scary thing to happen while you are asleep. I am worried about this happening in our area with so many homeless and desperate people out there. Best wishes to you and make sure to sleep with one eye open. Best Paz > The house i'm living in was broken into last night while we were all in bed. > Rachel woke me at 7a.m. to tell me what had happened. She had heard something > about 5.30 but had assumed it was the neighbours being noisy. > > The burglar came in through a window in the kitchen, which is at the back of > the > house. He (presumably) used a garden shears to break the lock on the window. > Drawers were open and their contents rifled through and strewn across the > floor. > The contents of my bag, which i had left ready for work, had been tipped onto > the floor (my passport and house keys were not touched fortunately). > > A full suitcase belonging to Nami had been emptied in the shed. Her clothes > and > a couple of journals were blowing in the wind. > > Nothing obvious was taken. They did not take either of the cameras that were > lying in the open. They did not take either of the televisions or cd players, > the dvd player, computer. Nothing. Until, that is, i go to play a certain cd > which i had left on the table. About six cds were taken (Led Zeppelin's first > two, one by The Doors, The Rolling Stones, Richard Thompson and something else > that i cannot remember right now - at least they had decent musical taste). > > I was angry, somewhat amused, sickened. I felt violated. This was *my* > house, > you know? My kitchen. My place to sit and listen to music. My sitting room. > > I felt relieved that we were not hurt. > > The Gardai later told us that he (again, presumably) had broken into about > seven > local houses. He seemed to only take things like cash and phones (my cds? He > didn't take Joni for some reason). > > This was not a great start to friday. > > On a cheerier note, I saw a very interesting production of Hamlet last night. > It was very enjoyable. > GARRET > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: (NJC) House Concert at Ashara's Michael, I had a great conversation with Lynn this evening - what a sweetheart. She's definitely one of us. She told me that she sent YOU the entire show (and all I got was crumbs) but that's cool - I know that I'm no match for that Pazzish charm and lady-killing machismo. I'd love to catch a cheapo flight to Beantown and be a part of Ashara's gig but it just won't pan out this time around. But, BUT count on me BIGTIME for Pazfest II, let's put it on the board for sure. Book it, Dan-O. Please give my best to Freda, I've been thinking about her and am definitely sending the good thoughts her way, I can only imagine the hell you guys have gone through. Bob NP: Days Of The New, "How Do You Know You?" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:03:50 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Dolly's BSN, njc Bob wrote: > > Then again, what is there to Dolly Parton if not for gimmickry? Which she would probably agree with. Have found her to be very genuine and if for nothing more than, and she has given so much more, the "here you come again" album, she has made my life better. Appreciate her. mack np: Leann Rimes- " How Do I Live Without You" which beats the shit out of Trisha's version. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:32:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Calling all computer nerds - njc Can anyone help me with this? I ran a Norton System Works program called Optimization Wizard this morning. It's one I've run before, no problemo. But in the midst of running it, it gave me error messages saying that this and that registry key were corrupted and asked me if I wanted to delete them. Like an ass, I said, yes. What the hell. If it's corrupt, it's likely no good and I figured, you can always get these things back. But, since then, a lot of the programs aren't running properly. My virus scan for e-mail (not this yahoo one though) isn't running, the kids can't get onto msn messenger, word won't open and maybe a few more. I'm not sure the problem is really what the opt. wizard did though. I think what might really have happened is that the computer crashed yesterday, and when Matthew restarted it (my beloved son, in whom I am not well pleased) instead of letting it do its scan disc thing that it wants to do when the computer isn't shut down right, he cancelled it and I think that may have messed up some files, that would have been fixed if he let it run. I've tried a bunch of stuff, like running scan disc again (although it seems to stall on my external hard drive where I've got all my freakin' music files and I bet a bunch of those are messed up now); uninstalling and reinstalling a few of the programs that weren't running properly; running a virus scan. But nothing has worked. Help, oh, help. I don't know what to do now and I bet the answer isn't that hard to find and I don't want to have to pay somebody big bucks to come out and have a look if it's something I should be able to fix myself. (Often just shutting down and restarting fixes some of this crap, but I've done that three or four times already and I don't know what to do now. I've been at this, on and off, for a good 3-4 hours now. As Scarlett O'Hara said, tomorrow is another day, so I think if I just leave it alone and go to bed, I may dream up something that will work. It's amazing how sometimes we can blunder through these things and fix them without having a clue what we're doing. In the meantime if any of you has a clue what I'm talking about and can offer any suggestions, I'd love to hear it. FWIW, I'm running on Windows ME (that's punishment enough, so no comments, please - my computer came loaded with that when I got it). Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:35:48 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Cindy Sheehan shows 'em we won't expire Dear Joniamigos: Lest we forget Cindy and Casey Sheehan, I paste this here, from one of Cindy's recent posts found at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindy-sheehan/ - ----------- From Despair to Hope: There were many nights after Casey was killed and we buried him that I had to restrain myself from swallowing my entire bottle of sleeping pills. The pain and the deep pit of hopeless despair were almost too much to cope with. How can a person be expected to live in a world that is so full of pain and so devoid of hope? I would think to myself: "It would be so easy to take these pills and go to sleep and never wake up in this awful world again." The only thing that restrained me from committing the cowardly and selfish act of killing myself was my other three children. How could I put them through something so horrible after what they had already been through? I knew that I had to live and I knew living was going to be (and still is) the hardest thing I have ever had to do. However, I know why some people kill themselves: it is the lack of hope. For me it was the black pit of knowing that I had to wake up everyday for the rest of my life with the same pain of knowing that I would never see Casey again: that I had to exist in a world without him and just existing is no way to live. One day about three weeks after Casey was killed, my daughter Carly came out and hit me with my reason for living: her poem: A Nation Rocked to Sleep. One stanza reads: Have you ever heard the sounds of a mother screaming for her son? The torrential weeping of a mother will never be done, They call him a hero, you should be glad he's one, but, Have you ever heard the sound of a mother weeping for her son? The first stanza reminded me that I was not the only one in the universe who had such excruciating grief, but the verse that helped me claw my way out of the pit of despair, one agonizing inch at a time, is the last stanza: Have you ever heard the sound of a nation being rocked to sleep? The leaders want to keep you numb so the pain won't be so deep. But if we the people let them continue, another mother will weep. Have you ever heard the sounds of a nation being rocked to sleep? I knew when she recited those lines to me that I would have to spend any amount of time, money, or energy to try and bring the troops home before another mother would have to weep. I was ashamed of myself that I didn't try to stop the war before Casey died. I foolishly thought: "What can one person do?" Well, I now felt that if I couldn't make a difference, I would at least try. If I failed, I vowed that I would go to my grave knowing that I gave it my best shot. I started to gradually get 3 doses of hope back, and then slide 2 doses back. I had a marvelous time in Florida during the campaign working against George Bush. I founded Gold Star Families for Peace. I was a main speaker at the Peace Rally in Fayetteville, SC. Casey and I were on the cover of The Nation magazine. I testified at Congressman John Conyer's Downing Street Memo hearings in June, 2005. I felt that I was one chip at a time eroding public support for the occupation of Iraq. Then in August of 2005, after I had already separated from my husband of 28 years, I was sitting at home watching TV (a very rare occurrence) and I saw that 14 Marines from Ohio were killed in one incident. If that weren't heartbreaking and sickening enough, George Bush came on the TV and said that the loved ones of fallen soldiers can rest assured that their loved ones died for "a noble cause." That enraged me and inflamed my sense of failure. I didn't not believe before Casey was killed, after he was killed, and on August 3, 2005 that invading a country that was about as much threat to the USA as Switzerland, killing tens of thousands of innocent people all for greed for power and money is a noble cause. I decided to go to Crawford to ask him what the "noble cause" is. Then George had the unfortunate temerity to say something that has enraged me for months. He said we had to: "Complete the mission to honor the sacrifices of the fallen." I have been publicly calling for him to stop that for months. I don't one more mother to have her heart and soul ripped out of her for no reason: for lies and crap. I wanted to go to Crawford to demand that George quit using my son's honorable and courageous sacrifice to continue his dishonorable and cowardly killing. The rest is history. The more the American people came to Camp Casey, and the more letters, cards, emails, phone calls, and packages of support we received, the happier we at Camp Casey became. We realized that at Camp Casey we remembered something after almost 5 years of a virtual dictatorship of control we have in America now: we the people have all the power. We the people NEED to exercise our rights and responsibilities as Americans to dissent from an irresponsible, reckless, ignorant and arrogant government. We realized, a little late, but not too late, that when George said: "If you're not for us, your against us," we all should have risen in angry, righteous and patriotic unison and said: "You are damn right you lying, out of control madman. We are so against you and your insane rush to invade Iraq." We didn't rise up then, but Camp Casey taught us that it is okay to raise your voices against the government. Not only is it "okay" but it is mandatory if your government is responsible for killing innocents. It is mandatory if there are no other checks and balances in place that we the people be the checks and balances on the media and government. I thought all my hope was KIA on the same day Casey was KIA. Carly's poem gave me a reason to live. Camp Casey with its wonderful feelings of love, acceptance, peace, community, joy, and yes, optimism for our future, gave me back my desire to live. I can now smile and laugh and even mean it most of the time. These things we often take for granted but I never will again. Living with hope that our world will one day exist in a paradigm of peace, love, and non-violent conflict resolution is a very good way to exist. I love being alive now and will devote my life to peace with justice so our children will never, ever be misused by the war machine again. Thank you, America. Thank you, Casey. - -------- Thank YOU Cindy -- my hero, strong and courageous and hopeful voice in the darkness. Love, Patti P. "Another Mother for Peace" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:44:18 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Message from Jack Neilson njc From: jack@jackneilson.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:32 PM To: JMDL As an evacuee (spoiled one at that) from New orleans, I wanted to thank SO much for getting some of the money that was graciously raised by you guys on this list...The whole trip since day one of the first storm has been pretty much like that for me....Some amazing pieces of life and death all rolled into one big blunt..ok, gumbo.....I have been back in New Orleans for a couple of weeks, I think, and Paz was the conduit ,as usual, for me to receive some of the bucks which somehow materialized from the list. I have ben detached from the list for a couple of years it seems...I once could focus for more than a minute in the beginning....Somehow I lost time and tunings.....Anyway, I'm just tryin to Sing out my thanks to all who made thePost Katrina a little more bearable..(Now, Pakistan makes katrina seem like a small thump in the air) Glad we got to do a Jonifest)pazfest) b4 Katrina came to town..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Shea Subject: Re: NJC__Now is NOT the time to be passive! (U.S. PC) - --- Smurf wrote: > Let's hear it for racial stereotypes, Bill. > > Bill Moyers said:"But just as the Irishman who came > upon a brawl in the street and asked, 'Is this a > private fight or can anyone get in it?'" LOL! Ready to do battle, are ye, Mr. O'Smurphy? In defense of Mr. Bill, who was repeating what Joseph Campbell said, at least he didn't say drunken Irishman. That would have been a slur. But fighting... you know the Irish are tough. Haven't you seen them dance? That stomping dance style that was all over New York for a while shows how fierce the Irish can be. Looks like a battle dance to me and dangerous to anyone who's not sober, whether they're actually trying to dance that way or just happen to be near all that stompin'. Here's a story about where the Fighting Irish label came from (apart from all the drunken brawling that is)... http://www.nycny.com/content/history/irish/irish_69th.htm Debra Shea __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #390 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)