From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #385 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 10 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 385 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: Metheny and Bowie NJC ["mike pritchard" ] open letter ["Marianne Rizzo" ] RE: Metheny and Bowie NJC ["Azeem" ] Carly Simon: Boho Queen ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: travel to Canada from U.S. (njc) ["Cassy" ] Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Catching up with the evacuees, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Fw: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC ["mack watson-bush" ] RE: McCartney njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Subject: open letter, njc now ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] RE: McCartney njc ["Azeem" ] Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC ["Martin Giles" ] RE: McCartney njc [Catherine McKay ] tooooooooooooo weird!!!!!!!!!! [Em ] RE: McCartney njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:48:18 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: Metheny and Bowie NJC Subject: Metheny and Bowie NJC >>Whoa Mike! I didn't know they recorded anything together recently! I would love to hear it!<< Sherelle Steady on gal, it's not recent. It's on the Best of Bowie EMI 2002 (and probably on other CDs too) but I just wondered if anyone knew the story about how they came to do this. Apparently it was written for the soundtrack of 'The Falcon and the Snowman' but more than this I cannot tell you. On a separate note, many congratulations on your gig. You deserve all the success you will one day achieve. You are a class act, judging by your demo CD. My question now is "Is the CD on sale at CD Baby the 5 track demo from some years ago?" mike in bcn np - I can't get started - Charles Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 08:40:08 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: open letter beautiful letter to Joni, Oddmund. . and it has that sweet odd twist to it. . which I like I think she would appreciate all of it. . and this: >Thank you! Your sharp observaton and very insightsful texts is >something very seldom found in the pop-industry. thanks Oddmund Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:12:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: open letter dear joni mitchell. i wanna thank you for making such great music. so massive texts. your art will go on and on. i'm sure. your music is whatever gets me through the day, it is' really. :-) And i want to thank for that. "Thank you, Joni, India, Canada, , etc " You Are Undoubtedly Queen Of Mind Beauty ( I have to buy a stickers from Patti, I love that black one)and you know i dream paprika plains now. although i've never seen them, you make me see them. they're here now, inside my head. and the lake and the river, and you skating away on it like a black crow. or hissing my summer lawns, oh Sharon, Oh Joni, Oh Canada. I don't know what I would do if I was forced to quit listening to your life-giving music, what kind of substitute would keep me alive, i really don't know. But I have your music,(and other mad people like me right here on the jmdl) We come for conversation, you know. Wonder what you think about us maniacs devoting ourselves to your texts, your voice, your music. You probably laugh ! about it all. And you know we laugh too. We smile. We dance. We sing, because you made us all come in from the cold, into your very warm arrangments. . . And that is so inspiring, so precious to me. Patti Smith said in an interview, that she was very depressed in her youth and wanted to die. But she couldn't die untill she heard the next 'stones album. And I can't die because your music gives me so much life, inspiration, joy. Not that I want to die, but if I wanted, I still haven't listened much to "Taming the tiger" or "Song to a seagull" , and "Don Juans reckless daughter" or "Clouds" or your early unreleased songs;So, I have to live! You makes me wanna live. To love. To play pinn-ball. And I am ever so grateful. Thank you! Your sharp observaton and very insightsful texts is something very seldom found in the pop-industry. Through the years I have observed that musicians in all music genres admire you and your work, and point to you when they're asked for people who have inspire! d and influenced them. And I know that you, our lady of duality, not always appreciate to be set togethet with these other artists, and that's okay. But we love you, we really do! And I'm warm now. I have come in from the cold. You made my day, once more My candles are burning here in the room My candle burns at both ends It will not last the night; But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends - It gives a lovely light. Edna St. Vincent Millay, "A Few Figs from Thistles", 1920 US poet (1892 - 1950) NP: Songs of a prairie girl Much Joni! Much love! Oddmund in Oslo, Norway _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:19:23 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Metheny and Bowie NJC Sherelle wrote: >>Whoa Mike! I didn't know they recorded anything together recently! I would love to hear it!<< Mike replied: << Steady on gal, it's not recent. It's on the Best of Bowie EMI 2002 (and probably on other CDs too) but I just wondered if anyone knew the story about how they came to do this. Apparently it was written for the soundtrack of 'The Falcon and the Snowman' but more than this I cannot tell you. >> Pat Metheny did the soundtrack to The Falcon and the Snowman (which he probably composed with Lyle Mays), which is largely instrumental. The Bowie collaboration was a one-off; I don't know how the two came to know each other. As a long-time and die-hard Bowiephile, I reckon his vocal on this song is one his greatest ever, so sinuous and graceful. I doubt they ever performed the song live, although when I saw the Pat Metheny Group some time in the 90s, they did play This Is Not America, with the two auxiliary multi-instrumentalists/backing singers taking the lead between them. They were pretty good, though a walk-on cameo by the great man would have topped it! Azeem in London NP: Stevie Wonder - Contusion (Listening to Songs in the Key of Life on vinyl, which Fiona has never heard before - great to hear it again) - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 09/10/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:54:39 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Carly Simon: Boho Queen I just read an online article from The Independent ..a current interview with Carly Simon. There are several Joni mentions: the interviewer mentions to Carly that Joni Mitchell must hate her for stealing arguably the most beautiful and talented musician around at the time from her. "Oh, No!" says Simon "I like her a lot, We're friends. She's fantastic. And James is talking to her but not me." There is also another Joni mention something to the effect that when James first met her ..Joni had to practically drag him away. It's a great article ...the Joni mentions an extra bonus. Bree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Just got her new cd Moonlight Serenade. It is very disappointing. Her voice is pretty shot. Jerry Bree Mcdonough wrote: > I just read an online article from The Independent ..a current interview > with Carly Simon. > > There are several Joni mentions: > > > the interviewer mentions to Carly that Joni Mitchell must hate her for > stealing arguably the most beautiful and talented musician around at the > time from her. "Oh, No!" says Simon "I like her a lot, We're > friends. She's fantastic. And James is talking to her but not me." > > There is also another Joni mention something to the effect that when James > first met her ..Joni had to practically drag him away. > > > It's a great article ...the Joni mentions an extra bonus. > > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:24:29 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: travel to Canada from U.S. (njc) From: "Patti Witten" <<>> I live just across the border from Canada and I travel there frequently. While it is recommended that one has a passport, it's not mandatory... yet! When traveling across the border, as long as a photo I.D. such as a driver's license and an original birth certificate (they don't accept mini-laminates) are presented it's not a problem getting back and forth. After January 2008 it's possible that a passport will be required but it's still a topic of discussion not yet a fact. The original suggestion regarding mandatory passports was made in April of 2005 and there are several good articles online including: http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=16809&repository=0001_article Cassy NP: Mellencamp - Love and Happiness ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:37:02 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Njc I'm glad you posted about Moonlight Serenade..Jerry. .....because I thought I would get it. The interviewer even went as far as to say that Diana Krall would do well to study Carly's smoking voice. Also....the record company contacted Carly and said the stats were in and it's a hit. I guess they are going on pre-release orders. Voice is shot?!! I hate to hear that. Bree >>Just got her new cd Moonlight Serenade. It is very disappointing. Her >voice is pretty shot. > >Jerry > >Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > I just read an online article from The Independent ..a current interview > > with Carly Simon. > > > > There are several Joni mentions: > > > > > > the interviewer mentions to Carly that Joni Mitchell must hate her for > > stealing arguably the most beautiful and talented musician around at the > > time from her. "Oh, No!" says Simon "I like her a lot, We're > > friends. She's fantastic. And James is talking to her but not me." > > > > There is also another Joni mention something to the effect that when >James > > first met her ..Joni had to practically drag him away. > > > > > > It's a great article ...the Joni mentions an extra bonus. > > > > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:37:44 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: houseconcerts NJC Mags, Ashara & anyone interested in hosting a houseconcert might be interested in joining a group on yahoogroups.com called HouseConcert. A wealth of info from many who've been doing it for years... they are the most wonderful experience for both audience & musician as well as host... so thank you all who do this! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:39:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Catching up with the evacuees, njc The Biloxi and Nawlins' evacuees have disappeared from the headlines. The NY Times has a big feature story that updates their saga, including some details on the culture clash http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/09/national/nationalspecial/09Refugee.html?pa gewanted=2&th&emc=th Example: The feds set them up for a while at a church retreat, in remote Oklahoma. There were no locks on any of the doors. The *physical reality is absolute safety. If you're a former desk clerk in the hard scrabble streets of New Orleans, and someone offers you a room without a door knob, (let alone a lock!), the *social reality* is different. It's cause to stand guard all night long. If you don't subscribe, (Catherine) it's free, yet valuable. I'd like non-subscribers (Catherine) to know The NY Time has expanded my circle of news providers beyond the Cincinnati bird cage liners and Broadcast News. I think this link will only work today for non-subscribers (Catherine). Over Sunday morning coffee, Jim L'Hommedieu, who shot concert photos of Sherelle Cary Smith before her first concert: http://home.fuse.net/jlamadoo/SHERELLE_composite_2002_by_Lama.jpg PS, I called up Paz'es cell in NYC last week. He was in great spirits, looking forward to a job interview the next day in a Bigger Market. So, you know... send up your prayer, cast out positive vibes, throw the I Ching or whatever. np: a freebie CD from volunteering (on the phones) at our local public radio station ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: open letter Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:12:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: open letter "Patti Smith said in an interview, that she was very depressed in her youth and wanted to die. But she couldn't die untill she heard the next 'stones album. And I can't die because your music gives me so much life, inspiration, joy." Just bury me alive if that Christmas album is ever released:) Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:56:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC I have come to the same conclusion as both lucy & garrett... cannabis is an addicting drug... I'm a child of the 60's so have done many things & am not judging without having experienced... I've also experienced the pain of being close to someone someone who was clouded for years by its daily use ... I have spoken to people in recovery who are now counseling others say that potheads are some of the hardest addicts to deal with (so much denial I guess)... certainly for some it can be used occasionally just like for some who can drink... for others it is harmful & can trigger other psychological troubles- people prone to depression can feel worse under the influence... on the other hand if weed is a gateway drug so is alcohol... just because it is legal does not make it any less of a gateway to other substances which is why people in recovery for other drug use generally do not drink... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:29:49 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Njc - ----- Original Message ----- > I'm glad you posted about Moonlight Serenade..Jerry. .....because I > thought I would get it. The interviewer even went as far as to say that > Diana Krall would do well to study Carly's smoking voice. Also....the > record company contacted Carly and said the stats were in and it's a hit. > I guess they are going on pre-release orders. > > Voice is shot?!! I hate to hear that. I have only listened to this record once or twice so I haven't formed a set in stone opinion about it. I think saying her voice is shot is a gross overstatement. She's mostly using her lower register on this one and I think a lot of the sound she's producing is deliberate. There is a certain sound to her voice that indicates that she's...how to be diplomatic here?...shall we say not as young as she used to be. I have to say that the couple of times I listened to 'Moonlight Serenade' I found it pleasant but uninvolving. I felt the same way about her last record of covers, 'Film Noir'. But her voice certainly didn't sound at all under par on 'The Bedroom Tapes' which was her last album of original songs and ranks up there with her best, imo. That was in 2000 so I suppose her voice could conceivably have changed some in that period of time. But I wouldn't say it is shot. Has *anybody* heard from Colin recently? Or Wally K? Mark E. in Seattle long time Carly Simon fan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:31:29 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Fw: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC > Kate wrote: > > > I have come to the same conclusion as both lucy & garrett... cannabis is > an > > addicting drug... > I have to disagree with you folks on this one. I was a pothead for years, 1979 to 1988. During that period, never missed work more than once or twice a year. Never impeded me from getting promotions while non-users were passed by. I smoked when I got up, during the day and at night. Was high most of the time. When I decided to quit, didn't have any problems to write of, was just tired of it and the thrill was gone. Mainly, was tired of the effort it took to get it and of the worry about having it. Had no withdrawal sx and didn't resort to any other drugs to take its place. Wasn't good for my lungs I am sure but the cigarettes that I smoked before, during, and present are worse I would write. I miss those pot years and the way that I felt and the good times that I had but that was then and this is now. I think it should be legalized and alcohol should become illegal. As for the problems folks have with marijuana and other drugs, I feel they are a sx of the people themselves and not the drugs. Blaming the drug is incorrect I feel, the problems are there before, during, and after. Which is why they are using drugs in the first place. mack np: Melissa Manchester- Better Days & Happy Endings ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:52:00 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: McCartney njc Perusing a music site of top 100 songs for the last 50 years. While in British and Australian lists, couldn't help but notice that they were very different from U.S. lists. Have heard that the Grassroots never had a hit in the U.K. which is confusing to me. Found a tune by McCartney called Mull of Kintyre that was a huge hit over there. Uploaded it and couldn't understand how it was a hit at all. Wanted to ask the British posters, what is the deal? What is the song about and why was it such a big heat? Also noticed that the U.K. is usually about a month ahead of the U.S. with hit tunes. mack np- missy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:02:20 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: McCartney njc I'm a huge McCartney fan but I never cared for Mull Of Kintyre either. What are we missing? Bree > Found a tune by McCartney called Mull of >Kintyre that was a huge hit over there. Uploaded it and couldn't >understand >how it was a hit at all. Wanted to ask the British posters, what is the >deal? >What is the song about and why was it such a big heat? Also noticed that >the >U.K. is usually about a month ahead of the U.S. with hit tunes. > > >mack > >np- missy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:18:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Subject: open letter, njc now Oddmund, I enjoyed reading your "thanks" to Joni. You truely appreciate her talents. It looks like Joni's music has helped you along life's path. We are all lucky to live a life that includes recorded music. We will **always** have Joni's "life-giving music". You wondered "what kind of substitute (for music) would keep me alive", then you wrote about Patti Smith's battle with suicidal depression. There are many ways to fight depression. My next post gives you many more ways. Every one has worked for someone here on the Joni Mitchell Discussion List. Please print the list. Read them out loud. Try 5 or 6 of them. There is lots of support here among the fans of Joni Mitchell. Keep writing. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu, who shot performance photos of Sherelle Cary Smith even before her first concert: http://home.fuse.net/jlamadoo/SHERELLE_composite_2002_by_Lama.jpg Oddmund Kaarevik said, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dear joni mitchell. i wanna thank you for making such great music. so massive texts. your art will go on and on. i'm sure. your music is whatever gets me through the day, it is' really. :-) And i want to thank for that. "Thank you, Joni, India, Canada, , etc " You Are Undoubtedly Queen Of Mind Beauty ( I have to buy a stickers from Patti, I love that black one)and you know i dream paprika plains now. although i've never seen them, you make me see them. they're here now, inside my head. and the lake and the river, and you skating away on it like a black crow. or hissing my summer lawns, oh Sharon, Oh Joni, Oh Canada. I don't know what I would do if I was forced to quit listening to your life-giving music, what kind of substitute would keep me alive, i really don't know. But I have your music,(and other mad people like me right here on the jmdl) We come for conversation, you know. Wonder what you think about us maniacs devoting ourselves to your texts, your voice, your music. You probably laugh ! about it all. And you know we laugh too. We smile. We dance. We sing, because you made us all come in from the cold, into your very warm arrangments. . . And that is so inspiring, so precious to me. Patti Smith said in an interview, that she was very depressed in her youth and wanted to die. But she couldn't die untill she heard the next 'stones album. And I can't die because your music gives me so much life, inspiration, joy. Not that I want to die, but if I wanted, I still haven't listened much to "Taming the tiger" or "Song to a seagull" , and "Don Juans reckless daughter" or "Clouds" or your early unreleased songs;So, I have to live! You makes me wanna live. To love. To play pinn-ball. And I am ever so grateful. Thank you! Your sharp observaton and very insightsful texts is something very seldom found in the pop-industry. Through the years I have observed that musicians in all music genres admire you and your work, and point to you when they're asked for people who have inspire! d and influenced them. And I know that you, our lady of duality, not always appreciate to be set togethet with these other artists, and that's okay. But we love you, we really do! And I'm warm now. I have come in from the cold. You made my day, once more My candles are burning here in the room>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:35:24 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Beat depression, njc Hello, I am the King Of Pain. Many of Joni's fans have had bouts of depression; I am one. If you are too, here are some ideas for coping and conquering. This is an unsorted, non-judgemental list of "What Works", from people who know from experience: * Force yourself to get some kind of exercise, even for 5 minutes. * Find happiness in what you have (instead of pining for what you don't.) but... * Do not become resolved to complacency. So, you're both finding happiness and actively looking & struggling towards it. There's a paradox in there, that makes it difficult, I suspect. * Leave the dangers of the inner city and move to the country. * Stop drinking alcohol. Ask yourself if it's a good idea to flood your already depressed system with a depressant. * Keep a Gratitude List to refer to. Write down 5 things that you're grateful for every night before bed. * Eat a diet of healthy foods (reducing sugars and watching carb intake and overly-processed food "junk calorie" intake, especially) * Get a close support group of friends or family (or a more traditional support group) to talk with, and that you trust enough to listen to (and then take action) if they say they're worried about you. * Ultimately you have to come to some peace within. It all comes down to faith- about oneself- that 'you'll be alright', that the world is not totally mad (and you are the only sane one there- or visa versa), and that there is a reason, somewhere, for everything. * Talk to people who have depression. Talk to people who don't have depression, but who understand that it is a very real condition that effects you physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Ask them to let you know when they think your depression is starting to become a problem again - it's very sneaky and you may not realize it's happening. * Do things you love. If you have lost interest in everything, do things you know you *used* to love. * Music works for me - always has. * Be a realist * Don't sweat the small stuff * Keep growing; never "retire" * Trust some sort of spiritual being * Go for a walk for 1/2 hour at least. This works everytime for me. * Pray or meditate. Ask for strength, clarity, and fellowship. * Be willing to call in professional help if things start feeling truly hopeless * Take a hot, hot, hot shower or soak your feet in hot water * Eat something, especially protein and some complex carbs, even if you don't feel hungry * Go to a good movie and get lost in the story * Go on a road trip to someplace new * So be it, remind yourself it's temporary and rent a bunch of movies you love to get through the day/week/month. Get comfy and read a good book, magazine, or do crosswords. * Get to know your depression - are there triggers? does it take a certain form (ups and downs - or chronic)? does it happen during a certain time of the year? month? day? * See your physician, acupuncturist, herbalist, therapist, or other health practitioner of your choice (note it can take a LOT of legwork to find someone who is right for you - don't give up). * Get sleep. If you have a sleep disorder, see someone to help you treat it. You may be the kind of person who needs to exercise pretty hard almost everyday in order to sleep well. * Try "light therapy" in the fall, winter, and spring * Ride a bicycle. * Be kind to yourself. If you're beating yourself up, imagine saying the things you are saying to yourself to someone you love dearly. It sounds ridiculous doesn't it? So knock it off! * Take some risks. Challenge yourself. Do things that make you feel proud. Get involved in outside commitments that force you to participate in the world even if it's the last thing you want to do. * Your mantra when you simply cannot get out of the hell that is your brain or you are thinking of suicide: AND THIS TOO SHALL PASS. Batten down the hatches and wait it out, doing the best that you can, and being very forgiving, understanding, and gentle with yourself. * And if you are feeling this way quite frequently GET HELP. * Don't count out antidepressants - they are not an easy way out, but a brave and difficult choice. They are not a miracle cure and can be a mixed bag. But they may greatly improve the quality of your life. * Listen to a lot of sad music (sad doesn't necessarily equal depressing - it's catharsis) so I can get good and blubbery and cry it out (cleans out the eyes and sinuses at the same time. Bonus.) * Listening to joyful music. Some of my all-time joyful music(s) are: Exultate, Jubilate by Mozart; Hungry Heart by Bruuuuuuccce (especially when played good and loud while driving, driving, driving, with the windows open) * Volunteer: If at the end of the day the world is a better place because you worked in a soup kitchen, or helped teach someone to read, or picked up litter off the highway, you know that you've made a difference, that it matters that you're here, and that there are a host of others out there who are much worse off than you * Music: Like Jackson Browne says, "let the music keep our spirits high", like JT says "singing works just fine for me" If you have one that works for you, write me off list. All the best, King of Pain PS I'm fine. I'm just passing this stuff on. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:16:29 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: McCartney njc Bree asked: << I'm a huge McCartney fan but I never cared for Mull Of Kintyre either. What are we missing? >> It's one of those not-crossing-the-Atlantic things: I bet We All Stand Together by Paul McCartney and the Frog Chorus wasn't a big hit Stateside either. We have an unfortunately high tolerance in the UK for "novelty" songs. I remember thinking even at the time that Mull of Kintyre was a drab dirge. Conversely, bands that are HUGE in the USA (and elsewhere) can't get arrested here: Dave Matthews is a prime example of someone who has zero profile here. Ditto Bush, who of course are from London. Going back further, Kiss never had much success here, at least compared to the rest of the world. Speaking of Kiss, there's a very fun programme on Channel 4 here called Rock School. It's based squarely on the Jack Black film, with "Mr Simmons" taking a group of 13-year-old classical music fans at an ancient English Boarding school and trying to turn them into a rock group capable of supporting Motorhead (!). The kids at school wear uniforms that have barely changed since the 16th Century. I know quite a lot about this school: I went there! Have a look at their websire if you don't believe me about the uniform: http://www.christs-hospital.org.uk/ Azeem in London NP: Ms Dynamite - Brother - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 09/10/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Carly Simon: Boho Queen Njc Subject: Re: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC Hi Garret. I've just dipped into the JMDL digests for the first time in two weeks, and have picked up on the fact that you've been burgled. That's aweful news; I'm really sorry to hear that. Hope you are getting over it now. I was burgled about five years ago, a week before Christmas. The thing that made my skin crawl is that I'd had one or more people in my flat that if I'd had anything to do with it, I wouldn't have let anywhere near it. But I was very lucky really, in that they only took a few things, and missed some easy to carry and valuable things (like a #250 pair of headphones, right by the wardrobe I knew they had been in). As a matter of fact, they didn't take the pile of wrapped Christmas presents that they must have walked past. I've never known whether I should have been relieved, or insulted about that! I'm a confirmed ex-smoker these days, which includes cannabis. I never realised until recently that cannabis could be any kind of health problem, but conversations with Strings about her work in psychiatry have taught me a lot. She sees a lot of people with psychiatric problems that are either due to heavy cannabis use, or at least exacerbated by it. Whether or not you are 'addicted' seems almost a moot point to me. But it's effects can definitely be severe, and if you don't quit, will be chronic. I was able to take some security measures in my flat that have meant that I haven't been troubled again, and am unlikely to be in the future. I can actually look back and laugh about it now (almost). I hope you will be able to soon also. Best, Martin. > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 13:54:39 +0100 > From: Garret > Subject: Re: Oh Garret Being burgled is not on! NJC > There is also a standard line of arguement that claims that cannabis dependence > does not exist ( "people do not become addicted to it - even scientific research > supports this"), and if it does the effects are transient and not severe. > I disagree with this completley. Not only does cannabis withdrawal affect a lot > of heavy users, they become preoccupied with getting their hands on more, they > use it daily, almost compulsively, and, even after giving up, they tend to say > things like "i'd love a joint" and then it's quiet common to "relapse". Sounds > like dependence to me. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: mendel gallery meld, uninvited "guests" and travel to Canada NJC mendel gallery: I would love to take a trek to Saskatoon with anyone who is interested/willing/able to go with me. It's a "doable" drive from Winnipeg, and I think it would be a lot of fun. Should be done before the snow flies, otherwise, we'll have to wait until the spring. You don't want to be driving out on the prairie in a snow storm. The melding of the Mendel with the Arts Centre sounds grand, doesn't it? uninvited guests: While I've never experienced a house break in ...we have an alarm system here that would draw attention for miles, the thing is so darned loud! ... anyway, my car was broken into recently, in a public place, on a Sunday afternoon. It was the weirdest thing, I used to have a funky sticker on my quarter window which I used to identify my car from a distance. As I approached what I thought was my car, I didnt see the sticker. Then the wheels started turning slowly as I looked down at my feet to see a spray of broken glass all round. At that point, I did the "puppydog head tilt" and thought...hmmm what is going on? As if my brain turned to molasses; (shock?) I just couldnt quite get it. It felt so strange to loo inside and see the glove compartment wide open. In the end, it's been dealt with, thanks to some lovely loving friends here, however, it was so weird that. Couldn't find a cop for the life of me...and finally got a security guard but nothing could be done in the end. Very bizarre. Apparently it was some ring of kids who break into cars at this location looking for id. *shrug* Garret, I'm sorry to hear that someone broke into your house whilst you were home! I cannot imagine the whateverthat takes to do such a thing...certainly not courage. guns guns guns.that burton cummings/guess who song comes to mind whenever i read about the comments made on this list about gun laws, changes to gun laws and so on. ....Yea, I know a bit about the attitudes; also that there seems to be gun laws in the US, which do in fact "allow" someone to shoot to kill an "intruder". Nice bit of civilisation that one. OH yea, it can be rationalised. What a crock. travel to Canada: after the fact, I do believe it is a good idea for an American citizen to have a passport if you are planning to cross the Canadian border. You might not "need" it, but why not get it, it's fairly easy to do, and why not be as fully prepared as possible. I've got lots of scary stories about paperwork required to cross american borders if anyone wants to hear, off list of course. Fodder for my best selling book, at the very least. Je pense que jamais encore. Mags, who from time to time remembers to kiss the Canadian soil :-) np: Leon's Lounge by Mark Reeves (i cannot help but plug a friend and local musician, thanks for the band width on that one). www.markreeves.com www.jeremyproctor.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:45:27 +1300 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: RE: McCartney njc Azeem wrote: > It's one of those not-crossing-the-Atlantic > things: I bet We All Stand Together by Paul > McCartney and the Frog Chorus wasn't a big hit > Stateside either. We have an unfortunately high > tolerance in the UK for "novelty" songs. I > remember thinking even at the time that Mull of > Kintyre was a drab dirge. NZ takes first place for the success of novelty songs. Mull of Kintyre was No. 1 on the charts for a LONG time back in the 70's, and was sung by every school choir I was involved with for the next 5-6 years. To prove my point, the current No. 1 song in NZ is "Axel F" by Crazy Frog which is (unbelievably) a mobile phone download. You can watch it here if you dare: http://www.atomfilms.com/af/content/axel_crazy_frog Also on the charts is "Das Kleine Krokodil" by Schnappi. Another ridiculous "non-song". Mind you, the Tellytubbies theme song was No. 1 in Britain a while back, so maybe we're tied for first place! > Speaking of Kiss, there's a very fun programme on > Channel 4 here called Rock School. It's based > squarely on the Jack Black film, with "Mr Simmons" > taking a group of 13-year-old classical music fans > at an ancient English Boarding school and trying > to turn them into a rock group capable of > supporting Motorhead (!). The kids at school > wear uniforms that have barely changed since the > 16th Century. I know quite a lot about this > school: I went there! Have a look at their > websire if you don't believe me about the uniform: > http://www.christs-hospital.org.uk/ I've been watching that show here - it's hilarious! All these 12/13-year-old girls and boys, who you'd expect to be into popular/rock music, saying how it just sounds like "noise" and they much prefer Vivaldi's Four Seasons, or a Beethoven Symphony! Although there's one very "cool" kid who can play any instrument you give him (drums, bass, guitar, sax, etc.), incredibly well! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:19:22 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: McCartney njc Thank you!! To Azeem and Hell for clearing that up a bit. So what your saying is that you like crappola better? just kidding... really kidding... I'm thinking the greatest Rock and Roll bands of all time have come from your way and let's not forget the greatest stage actors/actresses. And Azeem..I think those young men look mighty cute in those uniforms. Bree >From: "Azeem" > >Bree asked: > ><< I'm a huge McCartney fan but I never cared for Mull Of Kintyre >either. >What are we missing? >> >It's one of those not-crossing-the-Atlantic things: I bet We All Stand >Together by Paul McCartney and the Frog Chorus wasn't a big hit >Stateside either. We have an unfortunately high tolerance in the UK for >"novelty" songs. I remember thinking even at the time that Mull of >Kintyre was a drab dirge. >The kids at school wear uniforms that have barely changed since the 16th >Century. I know quite >a lot about this school: I went there! Have a look at their websire if >you don't believe me about the uniform: >http://www.christs-hospital.org.uk/ > >Azeem in London >NP: Ms Dynamite - Brother > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: >09/10/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:57:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: McCartney njc - --- hell@ihug.co.nz wrote: > Azeem wrote: > > > It's one of those not-crossing-the-Atlantic > > things: I bet We All Stand Together by Paul > > McCartney and the Frog Chorus wasn't a big hit > > Stateside either. We have an unfortunately high > > tolerance in the UK for "novelty" songs. I > > remember thinking even at the time that Mull of > > Kintyre was a drab dirge. > > NZ takes first place for the success of novelty > songs. Mull > of Kintyre was No. 1 on the charts for a LONG time > back in > the 70's, and was sung by every school choir I was > involved > with for the next 5-6 years. > Mull of Kintyre was popular here as well. (I thought it was about a girl named Moll of Kintyre for the longest time.) I think it's the bagpipe thing. A lot of Canadians have Scots origins, and have this thang for bagpipes. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: tooooooooooooo weird!!!!!!!!!! iPod shuffle segueway...I kid you not... Kitty Wells "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels" followed by: "Dreamland"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) hehehehehheheheheheh....... Em < Subject: RE: McCartney njc I meant... So what *you're saying..... >Azeem and Hell for clearing that up a bit. So what your saying is that >you like crappola better? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #385 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)