From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #357 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 17 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 357 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version [Mark-Leon Thorne ] supreme court, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Tom Waits sues - njc ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version [Bob Muller ] RE: apologies ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Tom Waits sues - njc [Em ] Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc [Brian Gross ] Re: Tom Waits sues - njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: joni and sports ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: Pres Bush's speech, njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] joni vids ["walterphil" ] Re: joni and sports [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: joni vids [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni vids [Bob Muller ] Re: joni and sports [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni and sports [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: joni vids ["ron" ] (NJC) AIDS Marathon moved to Miami [Lori Fye ] Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC ["Martin Giles" ] carnivan in kenora ["JEFF HANKINS" ] Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version [Doug ] joni and the bbc ["JEFF HANKINS" ] curling, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Prairie Wind [Greg Dexter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:52:06 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version Thanks Bob so much. What a great little lost treasure. Was this song a dumped song from STAS? Mark in Sydney On 16/09/2005, at 5:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:00:10 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: RE:Joni in Faithless song...NJC Hey Mark I saw Faithless at the Isle of Wight and it totally blew me away....WE had gone for the weekend for the chance to hear and see Embrace, Star Sailor, Snow Patrol and REM (all one after the other) on the Sunday, but Fiathless were the closing act (after Razorlight!!) on the Firday.... Had there been Moby, Morcheeba or Dirty Vegas there too I think I would have died happy.. It was an incredible festival.. if you stick isle of wight Festival into a search engine you will get the website.. If you get a chance to see Faithless live, if you have not already, do not miss it.. it will be one of the most uplifting, uniting, wonderful experiences of your life. Salva Mea is, brilliant on several planes..... and the opening violin to me sounds like the opening lines of "the Lark Ascending" by Vaughan Williams......... and that amazing energy and pace... What I love about the whole "Forever" album is the sense of enormous space from the production. With heaphones on and my eyes closed its like being in some enormous auditorium with just me...... and Yeah you can dance your head off to it too........... NP Muhammad Ali.. Faithless >Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:28:26 +1000 >From: Mark-Leon Thorne >Subject: Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC > >On 15/09/2005, at 5:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Nice catch, Lucy. I have been a fan of Faithless since the Reverence >album and was aware of the lyrics of Don't Leave. Any band with >beautiful insightful lyrics must have some influence from Joni >somewhere, IMO. Faithless lyrics are always worth a deeper listen well >after you've danced yourself stupid. Some of my favourite tracks are, >Crazy English Summer, Why Go? and Salva Mea. Lush. > >Mark in Sydney. > >NP Why Go? - Faithless (featuring Estelle). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:33:58 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: supreme court, njc From: "gene mock" >let all nominees know they have to reveal more of themselves. Absolutely. . . I want to know what the "umpire" thinks. It is our right to know. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:43:31 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Tom Waits sues - njc >>Following through on a threat he made last spring, the alt-rock icon has gone and sued a German-based division of General Motors and its ad agency for allegedly swiping his trademark growl for a series of European car commercials. The lawsuit, filed this week in Frankfurt, Germany, claims General Motors' Opel unit and the McCann Erickson agency produced and broadcast ads that used a "perfect impersonation" of Waits' distinctive. Waits claims that GM did the commercial only after he turned down several chances to pitch the vehicle.<< I don't know which ad is referred to here, but I can add that a few years ago I used to teach some 'creatives' who work in advertising in Barcelona and at that time Audi were using a Tom Waits soundalike in their current campaign. The song wasn't a Tom Waits song, but the voice was uncannily similar to Tom's. The creatives explained that this ad had just won an award in the San Sebastian Advertising Festival and the singer was in fact a guy they both knew and who lives and works in Barcelona. They went on to explain that it was typical to pay for the rights to a song but not for the performance (why pay twice?) but in this case Tom Waits was neither the songwriter nor the singer. The effect, certainly on me, was 'hey, there's a tom waits song I didn't know about. I wonder where it's from'. The theme of the ad was that 'things' (tyres, lights, mirrors etc) wanted to become alive in some way so that they could become incorporated into an Audi A4. Volkswagen / Audi have used Dylan's 'Not Dark Yet' recently, and I remember they used John Lennon's voice/songs in the past. mike in barcelona, promising France Fest pics when chris gives him the green light ;-) np Missy Higgins ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version Subject: Re: Tom Waits sues - njc And most Waits fans will recall that he also won a lawsuit against Frito-Lay, who wanted him for a commercial and then used a soundalike when he refused. I wish I could be in NYC for that benefit - Tom Waits & Elvis Costello on the same bill, not to mention Simon & Garfunkel, John Mayer, Elton John, many many more including a host of New Orleans legends: http://www.fromthebigappletothebigeasy.com/ Looks like Cable companies are offering it up as a pay-per-view. May have to buy this one (proceeds go to the Katrina fund). Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Bodhisattva" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:02:55 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: apologies Hi Ann! I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving to swim. I think it had something to do with her childhood bout with polio. I know we had this discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to the rescue!!! Love, Sherelle Anne wrote: It seems that my forgetting to add the NJC to my post about baseball sparked a rather unpleasant thread. I sencerely apologize to all. And now on to some Joni content... I seem to recall that Joni liked to swim and also liked bowling as a teenager. Am I remembering that correctly? It's been really interesting reading some new (to me anyway) info about her youth, and seeing photos I've never seen before. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Tom Waits sues - njc seems like there was also ( here in the States) some ad that was a Leon Redbone rip off. I know he did ads himself, too..but then I remember hearing one that was like, no way, that's not him. (but close!) Em - --- mike pritchard wrote: > ...snip... > The song wasn't a Tom Waits song, but the voice was uncannily similar > to > Tom's. The creatives explained that this ad had just won an award in > the San > Sebastian Advertising Festival and the singer was in fact a guy they > both knew > and who lives and works in Barcelona. They went on to explain that it > was > typical to pay for the rights to a song but not for the performance > (why pay > twice?) but in this case Tom Waits was neither the songwriter nor the > singer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:27:18 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc I had to laugh when Marianne after hearing the president said something along the same line...."Who's going to pay for all this?" I told her you are sounding more and more like a *true * conservative. NOrmally..I would be the one to question WHERE is the money going to come from ..etc.. But things seem to be upside right now. I'm all for pumping as much money in that region and attacking poverty head on. Ownership is the key...if something is yours ..a person tends to take care of it better. Someone commented Bush's talk reminded him of L. Johnson's great society approach. Bree >Some good ideas, with no idea of where the money's coming from. > >Money, what money? > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:00:52 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Wish I had thought of this one Q: What is Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade? A: He really doesn't care how people get out of New Orleans. ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc - --- Bree wrote: > Someone > commented Bush's talk reminded him of L. Johnson's great society approach. Yes, and remember what sunk LBJ's Great Society aspirations --- (in the words of Country Joe McDonald) "Come on all you big strong men Uncle Sam needs your help again Got himself in a terrible jam Way down yonder in Viet Nam" and in the words of someone near and dear to us all: "Things fall apart The center cannot hold And a blood dimmed tide Is loosed upon the world" It seems to me that the shit has already hit the fan and the splatter has only just begun. Blood dimmed tide - what a graphic way to describe the ongoing tactics of Al Quaeda in Iraq. Enough of my rambling. Everyone, be well and safe. Take care. Brian in south jersey I've looked at love from both sides now From give and take, and still somehow It's love's illusions I recall I really don't know love at all --Joan, with the wisdom of the ages Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Tom Waits sues - njc I believe the first to sue and win was Bette Midler. She sued Ford when they used a sound alike version of Do You Wanna Dance after she refused to let them use hers for a commercial. BTW, she will also be appearing at Madison Square Gardens tonight at the PPV concvert for Hurricane Victims. Jerry Em wrote: > seems like there was also ( here in the States) some ad that was a Leon > Redbone rip off. I know he did ads himself, too..but then I remember > hearing one that was like, no way, that's not him. (but close!) > Em > > --- mike pritchard wrote: > >> ...snip... >> The song wasn't a Tom Waits song, but the voice was uncannily similar >> to >> Tom's. The creatives explained that this ad had just won an award in >> the San >> Sebastian Advertising Festival and the singer was in fact a guy they >> both knew >> and who lives and works in Barcelona. They went on to explain that it >> was >> typical to pay for the rights to a song but not for the performance >> (why pay >> twice?) but in this case Tom Waits was neither the songwriter nor the >> singer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:06:19 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ooooh I like this one! Old time Joni, my fave, thanks for sharing Bob, love tushie >>> Bob Muller 9/15/2005 7:11:38 PM >>> Most of us have heard Joni singing "Carnival In Kenora" from the Second Fret recordings and such - live audience recordings. I knew that she had recorded a studio version of it but had pretty much given up hope of ever hearing it, when all of a sudden through a whim of real good luck, it has plopped squarely in my lap (love it when that happens). Hopefully someday we'll get a better quality version, but til we do this is still way cool! I hope all y'all think so too. http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EU34YTRQP73T0VJ78S0KN91GA Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Mr. Bellows" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Ann! > > I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving > to swim. I think it had > something to do with her childhood bout with polio. > I know we had this > discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to > the rescue!!! > > Love, Sherelle > Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind of looked like swimming to me ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:56:08 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: joni and sports Say it ain't so Catherine! I thought she was swimming too!!! Love, Sherelle >From: Catherine McKay >To: Sherelle Smith , anne@sandstrom.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: joni and sports >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) > > >--- Sherelle Smith wrote: > > > Hi Ann! > > > > I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving > > to swim. I think it had > > something to do with her childhood bout with polio. > > I know we had this > > discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to > > the rescue!!! > > > > Love, Sherelle > > > >Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind >of looked like swimming to me ;-) > > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:03:14 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: Pres Bush'es speech, njc I think that G W Bush has been spending money from day 1 like the old LBJ guns and butters days and it didn't work then and it is not working now - financial calamity looms because some day the bills have got to be paid. Vince - -------------- Original message -------------- Someone commented Bush's talk reminded him of L. Johnson's great society approach. > Bree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Pres Bush's speech, njc How true. Cutting taxes and creating a deficit is just as irresponsible as spending money we don't have. At least LBJ spent it on education and the war on poverty and Medicare and Medicaid. I think this country is heading for a huge crash. Jerry Vince wrote: > I think that G W Bush has been spending money from day 1 like the old LBJ > guns and butters days and it didn't work then and it is not working now - > financial calamity looms because some day the bills have got to be paid. > > Vince > -------------- Original message -------------- > > Someone commented Bush's talk reminded him of L. Johnson's great society > approach. > >> Bree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "walterphil" Subject: joni vids this is my second post on this don't think it went thru the first time got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week and they are great the best are all three of her performances on the johnny cash show and about 4 performances on some canadian show called "let's sing out" from the sixties "ladies and gentlemen here is joni anderson!" those showe have to be seen to be believed. they are so "mighty wind" xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni and sports Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) Nuri Catherine McKay wrote: Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind of looked like swimming to me ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:45:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni vids I thought someone else would have responded to this. It was posted because I remember reading it. I think these are both Jonifest giveaways. I'm pretty sure I have both, but was too lazy to go and check and that's why I didn't respond the first time. I do know a number of jmdlers have these. I don't have dubbing capabilities. If I did, I'd offer to copy them for people. I could be mistaken, but these might have been treed, or seeded, or weeded, or vined, or whatever the hell that thing is called. It's vaguely plant-ish in any case. - --- walterphil wrote: > this is my second post on this > don't think it went thru the first time > > got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week > and they are great > the best are all three of her performances on the > johnny cash show > and about 4 performances on some canadian show > called "let's sing out" > from the sixties > > "ladies and gentlemen > here is joni anderson!" > > those showe have to be seen to be believed. > they are so "mighty wind" > > xxx > walt > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: joni vids Walt, Your first post came through fine, it was just old news to most of us that have had this video for years now. Matter of fact, the bootleg you bought was a JMDL compilation that was put together for a Jonifest. The Let's Sing Out video is pretty fantastic, I remember how excited I was when I saw it for the first time. Bob NP: Caroline Lavelle, "A Case Of You" (Psovi Psovi Mix) walterphil wrote: this is my second post on this don't think it went thru the first time got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week and they are great the best are all three of her performances on the johnny cash show and about 4 performances on some canadian show called "let's sing out" from the sixties "ladies and gentlemen here is joni anderson!" those showe have to be seen to be believed. they are so "mighty wind" xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:48:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) > > Nuri > She's floating on her back. Even those with terrible lungs can manage - and you'd be able to smoke at the same time, and you could balance the ashtray on your belly. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni and sports Chain-smokers must visit the dead sea.(100 miles from Haifa, my hometown). Ha, you can float for hours and the water keeps still. Amazing, and very good for your skin and bones. Regarding that Joni pic - Doesn't she look awfuly skinny in it?... Catherine McKay wrote: --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) > > Nuri > She's floating on her back. Even those with terrible lungs can manage - and you'd be able to smoke at the same time, and you could balance the ashtray on your belly. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:11:16 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: joni vids hi >>>catherine wrote >>>>> I do know a number of jmdlers have these. I don't have dubbing >>>>> capabilities. If I did, I'd offer to copy them for people. I could be >>>>> mistaken, but these might have been treed, or seeded, or weeded, or >>>>> vined, or whatever the hell that thing is called. It's vaguely >>>>> plant-ish in any case. i mentioned these a short while back after i saw them offered on another list - i thought it was quite cool that they were getting circulation. but thats not the point - it seems that there are still a couple of people on this list who would like to get copies - how about someone offfering them up again??? (i dont have them or i would) ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:14:54 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) AIDS Marathon moved to Miami As the hotels in NOLA have been contracted by FEMA, the AIDS Marathon will be run in Miami instead of in New Orleans. I'm bummed that we won't be running in the Mardi Gras Marathon. On the other hand, I've never been to Miami and going there in the dead of winter can't be a bad thing. January 29th, Miami Marathon -- who wants to make it a party? : ) Lori, who will hit people up for donations another day ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:12:41 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC Not sure whether I should tag this NJC now or not, as some people watching this thread may be on the 'only joni' list .. Anyway. Sometime in the early-to-mid 90s I worked with Maxi Jazz on an album of his. While chatting, we got onto the subject of his lyrics which were singularly positive and uplifting. For a hip-hop album this was/is still highly unusual. To paraphrase him, he told me that he had been doing 'negative' stuff for years, and never seemed to get anywhere, but had recently been drawn to Buddhism and found new energy in it's positiveness. This had inspired him and he really felt that the album we were working on was going to be a turning point in his career. I don't know if that album was a success in itself, but not very much later I saw he was in a new outfit called Faithless. The rest, as they are inclined to say, is history. Guess them 'positive vibes' are worth something, eh? Martin. (The bugger didn't come to me to master the Faithless album, you'll note :o) > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:28:26 +1000 > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC > > On 15/09/2005, at 5:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > > JOni in Faithless song... SJC > > Nice catch, Lucy. I have been a fan of Faithless since the Reverence > album and was aware of the lyrics of Don't Leave. Any band with > beautiful insightful lyrics must have some influence from Joni > somewhere, IMO. Faithless lyrics are always worth a deeper listen well > after you've danced yourself stupid. Some of my favourite tracks are, > Crazy English Summer, Why Go? and Salva Mea. Lush. > > Mark in Sydney. > > NP Why Go? - Faithless (featuring Estelle). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:19:11 +0100 From: "JEFF HANKINS" Subject: carnivan in kenora Bob Wonderful to hear that studio version - what a find! what a lovely recording! I've always thought that song had a little more about it than "just a pretty little courtship song that people like" (see my post 8 Sept) - there's a whole odd quality of melancholy in the melody, and that with the images of 'scuffled ground', bare tentless sand etc make it strangely poignant, despite the artless little thing that it is. Wherever did you find it, and where has it been hiding?? And when I play it on Windows Media, why does it say Track 18? Most of all: how generous and good of you to share it!! Jeff, Wales ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:34:13 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version After many long seconds of research on Google I found that Cadence records went out of business in 1964. Interestingly, that information came from a site called Both Sides Now Publications http://www.bsnpubs.com/. http://www.bsnpubs.com/cadence/cadencestory.html Doug npih Twilight Zone theme Bob Muller wrote: > > Not sure of any details about the recording, Doug. I have more > questions than answers myself. Was CIK recorded the same time as > "Day After Day", were these to be released as a 45? Maybe the > Cadence advance you mention financed these sessions. > > We do know that she had STAS wrapped by March of '68, so it seems > highly unlikely that this recording was done in '68. My guess is > that it was maybe a year prior. > > Sorry, no answers from me - just more questions. And of course, > more goodies if/as I get them. > > Bob > > NP: Steely Dan, "Do It Again" (from Reelin' Through the Years, > live at the Record Plant, my favoritest bootleg ever) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the > Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:15:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: carnival in kenora Thanks Jeff - I actually thought of you when I sent it, know how you dig that early stuff as I do. Glad you snagged it and gave it a listen. It said "Track 18" because it was track 18 on the CD I got, but no, the other 17 tracks are NOT unreleased Joni studio recordings - I wish! But it IS a most interesting CD...it's a live show from a Buffalo, NY group called 'The Difference' (later changed their name to The Coincidentals) who did a COVER of Carnival in their act in 1968. Check it out, their arrangement is briliant lounge-cheese, drastically different than Joni's own recording: http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SXTEHPPAVX5C3408DC3JO51OX This makes TWO covers of CIK, the other being an equally fab recording by our very own Gary Zack. Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Everybody Finds Out" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:44:37 +0100 From: "JEFF HANKINS" Subject: joni and the bbc Bob's recent uncovering of 'Carnival in Kenora' set me to thinking again about hidden treasures (Sorry) And particularly about fat corporations who sit on great mounds of jewelled treasures, like big scaly Smaug in his den (for you hobbit-fans) Take our much revered BBC for example. Now, back in the very early 70s they broadcast a cutting edge series of solo acoustic performances of singer songwriters 'In Concert' on the almost-avant garde BBC2 channel; they were produced by Stanley Dorfman. Fellow Brits, remember? In my memory John Sebastian was the first - though I may be wrong on that one. Certainly the list that followed was, looking back, monumental - and visionary - since some of these were only just becoming renowned. There were quite a few, I'm sure, but those I remember included: Laura Nyro, David Gates, Neil Young, Elton John (the Your Song/ Border Song/ real hair era), Carole King, James Taylor, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Labi Siffre, Judy Collins, and Joni. twice. (To my knowledge only the Neil Young.. and part of the first Joni concert, have been 'released') The first studio concert was recorded in 1970, and is often now known as 'The Pink Dress Concert' I believe. (I can remember watching it on TV, a transfixed 17 year old, while 'My Old Man' caused my parents to ask who on earth this dreadful warbling woman is). The concert ( Simon Montgomery has it right of course in his wonderful 'chronology' section) was broadcast again in 1971. Imagine my surprise to find several of the songs quite different, eg. The Gallery was in it, and (Did she open with this, perhaps?) 'Hunter' (The Good Samaritan); And.. a rendition of 'All I want' as a work in progress! with plenty of dooddoo doodoo dedoo. So, I realized.. the original concert must have been about an hour long. And BBC, presumably, still sit on it. But the concert she did for BBC in 1972 (when she came over for her Royal Festival Hall Concerts) was an even better one (and this time I had the sense to set up our old reel-to-reel in front of the telly, and warn my parents to keep quiet). For those who remember it - beautiful opening version of This Flight Tonight, then 'Electricity'.- it was great; I think it surfaced in bootlegland as ' In her own devices' or something obscure like that. But I've never seen the television broadcast since. Ah, Beeb, what you do to us. Dig out the archives! Since my memories are stirred, just a word about the famous BBC Radio Concert she recorded too, where James Taylor put in an appearance. I listened to that one on the Radio first time round, too. It was mesmerising and seamless. When I bought an LP of it a couple of years later ( 'Joni Mitchell and James Taylor In Perfect Harmony' it was called) I noticed the bootleggers had stuck on it a few of James's songs from his BBC TV 'In Concert' performance, to kind of even things up?.and had attempted to 'paper over the cracks' with extra hollow, studio-ey applause. It was a botched job. The songs didn't belong there: if the radio concert we heard was to be believed, James joined only to play guitar on 'California', 'Case of You' For Free, Circle Game (harmonising on those last 2) and singing together on Joni's encore, the little lullaby he'd written for her. Any other 50 year old Brits share similar recall? All for now Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:53:07 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: curling, njc I'd much rather spend my winter drinking myself into a stupor. This curling sport is O.D.D. (odd) : -) Catherine writes: >curling, which looks like it has to be the most boring >and stupid sport ever invented, ("Hey everybody! Let's >hurl a rock down an ice rink and sweep the ice while >we're at it!"), but which just about anyone who lives >in northern or rural Ontario seems to be into, as the >alternative seems to be spending your winter drinking >yourself into a stupor _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:16:35 -0700 From: Greg Dexter Subject: Prairie Wind You can listen to the complete album Prairie Wind by Neil Young at NPR at this link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4850911 Greg ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #357 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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