From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #355 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 15 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 355 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Yankees/Red Sox/SJC/Mark in Sydney [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Yankees/Red Sox/SJC/Mark in Sydney [Catherine McKay ] Re: Latest news (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] (NJC) End of the Bush Era [Lori Fye ] The Ashes njc ["Azeem" ] Re: The Ashes njc [Catherine McKay ] Unpacking and what did I find? [Mike Friedman ] Re: (NJC) End of the Bush Era [jrmco1@aol.com] JOni in Faithless song... SJC [Lucy Hone ] NJC Re: JOni in Faithless song... [Bob Muller ] jacob moon NJC [mags h ] Oh Shit (sorry Joni ONLYS) [Michael Paz ] Renee Fleming on Joni [Joseph Palis ] fascinating njc ["Kate Bennett" ] (njc) The Joys of Transient Amnesia... [littlebreen@comcast.net] Joni Mitchell's daughter wants Ontario adoption disclosure bill ["Les Irv] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:04:46 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Yankees/Red Sox/SJC/Mark in Sydney Well said, Nicola. Thank you. If I wanted to know about the local American football teams or whatever, I would join that list. I'm sure there are plenty. If I started raving on about the latest Sydney Swans football match or incompetent Australian politicians, I'm sure people would get bored pretty quick and start reminding me of the rules of this list. I am a Joni fan and I have come across some pretty nice people on this list who have gone out of their way for a fellow Joniphile and had many interesting continuing conversations off list. I have been mindfull to continue those conversations off list when the topic goes beyond Joni. Thank you for your consideration. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Latest news (NJC) That would have been classic...I loved this quote recently from Maher: "Come on, Mr. President, this cant be fun for you anymore. You cant spend any of our money because you used it all up. And you cant start another war because youve used up the troops. The cupboards bare, the credit cards maxed out and no ones speaking to you  mission accomplished! Now its time to do what you do best: lose interest and walk away, like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or spaceman? Youve performed so poorly you should give yourself a medal. Bob NP: XTC, "Towers of London" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Yankees/Red Sox/SJC/Mark in Sydney - --- Mike and Alice Hicks wrote: And if a list > member wants to talk about something else she/he > should be entitled. She is > interested in Joni, and if she is a Joni person, > then I'm interested in > everything she has to say. > Mike, if people are on the Joni-only list, they want only Joni. The rest of us who talk about any old thing are supposed to try to remember to mark the header as njc. Sometimes we forget and I think that may have happened a few times more than usual lately. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Latest news (NJC) - --- Michael Paz wrote: > Sorry you upper crust Canadian's would never be > forced to eat "Meals Ready > To Eat". LMAO! It's what they feed our army guys and > send to disaster areas. Wow! Weird... kind of like airline or hospital food. The bit about how you heat them up sounds pretty cool. I can see why the kids might like them. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Latest news (NJC) - --- Lori Fye wrote: > > Catherine, MREs is an acronyn for "meals, ready to > eat." It's various foods > that are vacuumed packed in brown or olive drab > colored foil. Usually, > several different items comprise a meal. The > "entree" is often a cream-based > or stew sort of things. The way Paz described it sounded more appetizing. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:26:23 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) End of the Bush Era This guy used to (and maybe still does) write education pieces for the think tank I worked for on K Street some years ago. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/12/AR20050912014 33.html?nav=most_emailed Lori, who gives Bush two points for yesterday's admission and acceptance of responsibility ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:24:07 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: The Ashes njc I can say with confidence that the recent cricket series between England and Australia (which is played for a symbolic trophy called The Ashes - its a long story) will have excited little or no comment in the US media. Im curious, though, as to whether there would have been ANY coverage of it at all, perhaps as an ...and finally item on the news. And is it any different in Canada? I can tell you good folks that it was the most exciting extended (five 5-day matches over a period of seven weeks!) sporting contests in living memory - the undisputed best team in the world for more than a decade (Oz) against the widely acknowledged second best team (us), played at an amazing level of skill and intensity, and in a heart-warmingly sporting spirit. At the end of the second match, Australia were desperately hanging on, trying to get a few more runs with their last two men batting. Englands bowlers were bowling really aggressively, especially Englands hero Andrew Flintoff, who hit Brett Lee on the body several times. Lee stood firm and showed real courage. When Australia were only two runs from victory (which even if you dont know about cricket you may appreciate is very very close), England got the final wicket they needed, meaning we had won. The first thing Flintoff did was go over to the distraught Lee and put a consoling arm around his shoulder, in recognition of his guts and skill. It was a truly great sporting moment in every sense. End of cricket content... Azeem in London NP: Supergrass - Road to Rouen - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 14/09/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:52:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Ashes njc - --- Azeem wrote: > I can say with confidence that the recent cricket > series between England > and Australia (which is played for a symbolic trophy > called The Ashes - > its a long story) will have excited little or no > comment in the US > media. Im curious, though, as to whether there > would have been ANY > coverage of it at all, perhaps as an ...and > finally item on the news. > And is it any different in Canada? As a person who has absolutely no interest in sporting events of any kind, I nonetheless felt the challenge and so snagged a copy of today's Globe and Mail that someone had brought to work. There is a story - and a half-page one at that - about outcome of the Ashes, that explains briefly the origin of "the Ashes", on page 3. The story mentions that "there's a tendency to spend far too much time fretting over England's place in international soccer...". I found two cricket-related Canadian websites (and you know there may be more), i.e. http://cricketclub.org/ and http://www.canadacricket.com/ I have seen with my own eyes... real people playing cricket just for fun. It seems to be quite popular among people of Indian and Pakistani background, at least in Toronto. It also seems to be a fairly big thing in British Columbia. Cricket does look a heckuva lot more interesting than curling, which looks like it has to be the most boring and stupid sport ever invented, ("Hey everybody! Let's hurl a rock down an ice rink and sweep the ice while we're at it!"), but which just about anyone who lives in northern or rural Ontario seems to be into, as the alternative seems to be spending your winter drinking yourself into a stupor due to the depression caused by lack of sunshine. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:12:03 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Unpacking and what did I find? I had forgotten that I had two copies of the Joni lyrics book....would someone like one of them? I bought it in hard cover for myself and then someone gave me a 2nd softbound copy as a birthday gift when the book came out. ====================== "It better be funny;.. "If my life wasn't funny, it would just be true and that's unacceptable." --Carrie Fisher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:24:33 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: The Ashes njc hi >>>catherine wrote >>> I have seen with my own eyes... real people playing cricket just for >>> fun. It seems to be quite popular among people of Indian and Pakistani >>> background, the latest craze here is to go out, get bombed, then have a 2am game of cricket in one of the city centre parking lots - ive never made a game myself but apparently its generally quite a hoot :-) ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:31:33 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) End of the Bush Era Thanks for the reality check, Lori. This post-dated article from the upcoming edition of Newsweek magazine is utterly factual, I find. It's brutal in it's honesty about Bush and all government in the wake of Katrina. Sends chills down my spine. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/ - -Julius NP - The Meters - "People Say" - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:26:23 -0400 Subject: (NJC) End of the Bush Era This guy used to (and maybe still does) write education pieces for the think tank I worked for on K Street some years ago. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/12/AR2005091 2014 33.html?nav=most_emailed Lori, who gives Bush two points for yesterday's admission and acceptance of responsibility ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:27:38 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: JOni in Faithless song... SJC Its not often I write anything to do with Joni but I have been listening to Faithless on my CD player in the car and today I "heard" the lyrics to one song, as if for the first time. Faithless are wonderful headed by a black English guy called Maxi. We have had discussions about Rap on here but I dare anyone not to like this... It is intelligent, didactic, gentle, hard hitting, moving, uplifting, thought provoking, humorous, nostalgic, futuristic... you can probably get some of it off the net..I would suggest MASS DESTRUCTION and INSOMNIA and also GOD IS A DJ ...WE COME 1... and below is DON'T LEAVE... We had the great good fortune to be perusaded by a group of young New Zealanders whilst at the Isle of Wight Festival this year, to set aside our/my usual dislike of rap culture and go and take in FAITHLESS. I realised when I heard one song it was a song i had liked but had not realised who it was.............. Its as far from early Joni as you could get but I urge you throw away your prejudice and listen with new ears to a universal message in Mass Destruction DON'T LEAVE Packing your bags like people in the movies do, All severe, and not saying a word, And Im sitting down here just watching you, And Im thinking: Where is all the love gone? Wheres the love gone to? Dont leave, You got me hurting, Dont leave You know its never been easy to love someone like me, Oh, dont leave. Hanging with friends like we used to do, I didnt know anything was wrong, And last night while I was thinking it through, Trying to find who am I and what do you need me to do? Dont leave. Theres a record you used to play, Theres Joni singing best to be without you, And I know just what shes singing for, "help me I think I am falling" Where did all the love go? Wheres the love gone to? Dont leave. You got me hurting, Dont leave. You know its never been easy to love someone like me, Oh, dont leave. Where did all the love go? Wheres the love gone to? Dont leave. Well fly around the world, give you what youre giving me, I should have dressed you up in pearl, Finest silk to touch your skin, Dont know how to write a love song, But dont leave. You got me hurting, Dont leave. You know its never been easy to love someone like me, Dont leave. Dont leave. Dont leave. Dont leave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:18:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: JOni in Faithless song... Hi Lucy, Funny you mention Faithless, I heard them yesterday for the first time on Radio Paradise (which I will recommend again to all). The song they played was "No Roots" and I have to say that I didn't much care for it. In other music news, Sam's fave Nada Surf came out with their much-awaited follow up to their awesome "Let Go" and it's excellent. It's title is "The Weight Is A Gift" - 15 new tracks, way cool. And in some new-music Joni-related news, there's a song on The Spin Doctors' (didn't know they were still hanging in there) latest, called Margarita that mentions Joni. I tried to do a lyrics search but came up empty-handed. Maybe somebody can find what they say... Bob NP: Joni, "Ladies Man" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: jacob moon NJC oh, just feel like some promoting of a friend......... give jacob a listen, and watch his two video clips.... i'd appreciate knowing what you think, off line.... http://www.jacobmoon.com/video_landing.html - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:07:11 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Oh Shit (sorry Joni ONLYS) Check out VH1 Right now a video called Make it Funky made in New Orleans when we was half dry and yours truly was stage manager on this production Love Paz 9pm weds NP-Walter Washington-Barfootin' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:08:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Renee Fleming on Joni Apologies if this was already mentioned or discussed in the list, but I recently bought a used copy of Renee Fleming's non-classical album called "Haunted Heart". For those of you who own this album may know that Renee covered Joni's "River" admirably. To my ears, it was both an homage to Joni and a re-imagination of the song. Aided by both Bill Frisell and Fred Hersch, Renee's one-octave-lower register fleshed out the sad longing this song articulates. I won't say her version is the best (that would be vocalist Janis Siegel for me as accompanied by Hersch in 1989), but Renee tenderly locates the melancholy of the song without lapsing to tendencies of others to overly sentimentalize the song. In the liner notes, here's what Renee had to say about Joni: "Classical music and jazz were a fundamental part of my upbringing, but I found that my earliest passions were for more intimate musical expression - first and foremost in the recordings of Joni Mitchell. I still remember clearly the fellow high school art student who handed me 'The Hissing of the Summer Lawns' as one passes along notes on homework, clearly having no idea what momentous gift she was giving me: music and words that spoke directly and solely to my melancholy adolescence. (To mine, and probably a million other young adults.)" In amazon.com where artists are asked the albums they are recommending, Renee Fleming mentioned Joni's "Hejira" and said the following: "This is my favorite of her recordings--and since she has been my musical touchstone since I was 18, I actually love them all. Joni's ability to combine text and music in an atmospheric and compelling whole, with her own unique point of view, slays me every time. There's real genius here! I wonder if her songs won't someday find their way to the concert stage". I am not big on sopranos (preferring contraltos like Ewa Podles, Nathalie Stutzmann, etc.) but Renee's unabashed admiration for Joni might open Joni further to people whose idea of music rest in the classical repertory. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Mia Doi Todd - "Jackals" (from "Come Out Of Your Mine") ___________________________________________________________________________ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Tilichargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:23:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: fascinating njc I'm only half way through but recommend this to ya'll: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/18/magazine/18bono.html?8dpc "I first met Bono last January at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, a gathering that answers almost perfectly to the conspiracy-theory view of global domination by a corporate-political-cultural elite. A core function of Davos is to mix different kinds of authority, which makes it the site par excellence of the Celebrity Prince and the one-man state. Bill Gates was there, as was George Soros - figures whose global currency, of course, is currency, and who deploy their philanthropy strategically, just as states deploy their aid budgets. Angelina Jolie, roving ambassador for the United Nation's refugee agency, showed up, too. Bill Clinton came, as did Jeffrey Sachs, the Columbia professor and unofficial economist to the third world. " ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 05:35:25 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: (njc) The Joys of Transient Amnesia... The Joys of Transient Amnesia -- or, It's a Good Thing I Have Good Taste Most of you know that I'm under a little more than the usual amount of stress, and two aspects of that are (a) when flipping out, I sometimes overspend a wee bit on the internet; yes, it can get expensive, but at least there's usually something to show for it other than a blown liver or a destroyed nose, for example; and (b) I often forget that I've already done something that I've been meaning to do (hence, e.g., two or three birthday cards arriving days apart to the same recipient who calls to inform me that they've only turned *one* year older, but thanks anyway). When the two combine, it can get interesting. Just yesterday, I got to my mailbox in the Castro with a friend in tow, and opened a succession of little packages only to exclaim, "Oh my god, I'd heard this CD had come out!" and "Oh, wow, I've been waiting for Ethan Mordden to write the next installment of the 'Buddies" series for *years!*" and finally, and best of all, "Who the hell are Anais Mitchell, Holly Figueroa and Carla Ulbrich?" Naturally my friend asks, "Who sent you all this?" I check the packing slips, and sure enough, "I ordered it all." "Then why are you... how did you...?" (He being too polite to ask the obvious, "What, are you nuts?") Speaking of having good taste -- the last three mentioned (Mitchell, Figueroa and Ulbrich) were all ordered at CDBaby, one of my favorite venues for a variety of reasons (and commercial home of our own Patti Witten), and they're all great. I can only presume that I must have been cruising the site, sampled bits of all three albums and liked them -- which I still do. I think many of you would, too, so go to CDBaby and check them all out, and maybe buy some of their stuff -- and hopefully remember it later, unless you like surprises. Best to all, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:50:32 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Joni Mitchell's daughter wants Ontario adoption disclosure bill Joni Mitchell's daughter wants Ontario adoption disclosure bill Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:32:09 EDT CBC News A woman who was given up for adoption at birth by singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell says all Ontario adoptees should have the right to reunite with their birth parents. Kilauren Gibb says she was reunited separately with her famous birth mother and her birth father about eight years ago, and calls the experience "fantastic." She says the reunions with her birth parents had a "profound and wonderful" impact on her life after years of searching that left her feeling empty and lost. She says she believes her birth mother would support the bill. Birth mothers and adoptees had joined together at a news conference to urge the government to pass new legislation that would unseal adoption records - saying that everyone has a right to know their origins. The law would allow adoptees access to their original birth certificates, which would include the names of their birth parents. It would also let birth parents access the current name of the child they gave up. The Conservatives have said the government should scrap the bill and start over, because it doesn't give people the right to keep their records secret if they choose to. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #355 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)