From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #337 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 3 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 337 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 68 - Oy Vey! [Catherine McKay ] RE: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore [Randy Remote ] RE: (NJC) Political content [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] RE: (NJC) Political content [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] RE: (NJC) Political content addendum: working url ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore [Em ] rose polenzani and sharon lewis NJC [Yael Harlap ] and a little more, just a little NJC [Yael Harlap ] Joni and the Magi NJC [Lucy Hone ] Re: Joni and the Magi NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore [Randy Remote ] Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC) Political content [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore -- AND [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC) Political content [Em ] Re: (NJC) Political content [Bob Muller ] Re: Keren Ann njc [JasonMaloney71@aol.com] Re:joni & janis [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Political content [Lori Fye ] Re: But be prepared to bleed [Lori Fye ] Re: Michael Moore and Julius(NJC) [Lori Fye ] (NJC) Keesler AFB Photos (from ground level) [Lori Fye ] Re: Joni and the Magi NJC [Lucy Hone ] njc Michael Tolcher's schedule [vince ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:43:06 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: RE: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore Absolutely f*&%$ing brilliant! As I would expect from someone like him, with the balls to dare speak TRUTH to POWER!! Don't forget, it's "W", with the accent on "DUH"! JR in NH Original Message: - ----------------- From: Lori Fye lrfye58@gmail.com Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:15:57 -0400 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore You may not like the dude, but he tells it like it is, especially this time. Friday, September 2nd, 2005 Dear Mr. Bush: Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag. Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with? Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her! I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike? And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleansthis summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them  BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ! On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that. There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland. No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING - -- to do with this! You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coastare near Tikrit. Yours, Michael Moore - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Does anyone have a set list for the 10/29/98 show? Blake, My CD's are structured like so: Joni Mitchell Maple Leaf Gardens; Toronto, Ontario 10/29/98 Disc One: 1. Big Yellow Taxi 2. Just Like This Train 3. Night Ride Home 4. The Crazy Cries of Love 5. Free Man in Paris 6. Harrys House 7. Black Crow 8. Amelia 9. Hejira Joni Mitchell Maple Leaf Gardens; Toronto, Ontario 10/29/98 Disc Two: 1. Don Juans Reckless Daughter 2. Happiness Is The Best Facelift 3. Sex Kills 4. The Magdalene Laundries 5. Moon At The Window 6. Trouble Man 7. Comes Love 8. Woodstock You can also find the setlist here: http://www.jmdl.com/bitb/docs/981029.cfm (In the "Blondes In The Bleachers" section of the JMDL) Bob - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Lawyers Stranded! njc Julius!!! you're back! so happy to see you! and yes thats a banana in my pocket! ;) Em - --- jrmco1@aol.com wrote: > Two lawyers have been stranded on an overpass in flooded New Orleans > for 4 days, 5 hours and 30 minutes. The only thing on the highway > median they now called home was a tall coconut tree, which provided > them their only food. Each day one of the lawyers would climb to the > > top to see if he could spot a rescue boat coming. > > Finally, one lawyer yelled down from the tree, "WOW, I just can't > believe my eyes. There is a woman out there floating in our > direction." > > > The lawyer on the ground was most skeptical and said, "You're > hallucinating; you've finally lost your mind." > > But within a few minutes, up to their "beach" floated a stunning > beauty, face up, totally naked, unconscious without even so much as a > > ring or earrings on her person. > > The two lawyers went down to the water, dragged her up on the beach > and > discovered, yes, she was alive, warm and breathing, but sunburned and > > needing immediate care and nursing. > > One lawyer said to the other, "You know, we've been on this God > forsaken island for an eternity now without a woman. It's been such a > > long, long time. Do you think we should ... well ... you know ... > screw > her?" > > "Out of WHAT?" asked the other. > > :-) > > -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:44:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 68 - Oy Vey! - --- Bob Muller wrote: > OK, so I'm a day late & a dollar short...I mean, > it's not like anyone really READS these things > anyway, right? > Wrong-o! I read 'em faithfully, because they make me laugh and I never cease to be amazed by how many of these suckers there are, especially the lame versions of BSN. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:21:36 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Darice Subject: Michael Moore and Julius(NJC) Wow, it takes this combo to shake me out of lurkdom!!!!!!! MM stated all the things I have been saying (to my elected representatives) clearly and with precision. The only thing I would add it is "is this strike three for Bush? First, his actions after the WTC (continuing to read to the children and then "retreating" from Washington DC; second, his slow and embarrassingly "cheap" response to the devastation of December tsunami, and now flying off to San Diego to glorify war and the military,after Gulfport, Biloxi and the rest of the Gulf Coast has been flattened and "New Orleans is sinking". And Julius, your lawyer joke gave me the first, out loud laugh since Tuesday morning. Darice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:14:55 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore I could shoot holes through most everything here Lori......let me spend just a few seconds ... MM'S is a liar....first ....the prez was in San Diego honoring and remembering our war dead. LIE NUMBER ONE. Yes...of course... it's Bush's fault that SOME of the hurricane victims were filling shopping carts with tv's,,,tennis shoes....makeup.... Compare the victims of the tsunami...then with the behavior of SOME of the victims here.... We as a country are spoiled rotten....and this is part or even most of the problem down there..instead pulling together SOMe of the victims are raping....murdering.....robbing ..looting..... the city is under WATER..for God's sakes ..it takes time to get help in there...then when help does arrive..they became target practice...GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ......... In this fast...FAST world..fast-food....fast everything...A REAL LIVE DISASTER DOESN'T' FIT INTO MM's fast--food world!!! But this letter from him has nothing to do with anything really .except he still is fuming because ..dare I say...BUSH WON! Hey..here is a suggestion for MM..why doesn't he get in his private jet and go down to the Superdome and help!! Quit politicizing this disaster and HELP !!! The election is over .....Bush won! Get over it!!!! Bree From: Lori Fye >Reply-To: Lori Fye >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore >Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:15:57 -0400 > >You may not like the dude, but he tells it like it is, especially this >time. > > > >Friday, September 2nd, 2005 > > >Dear Mr. Bush: > >Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and >thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on >earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help >finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a >drag. > >Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really >use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping >with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with? > >Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of >Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it >was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still >homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its >way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you >didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get >bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers >to >ignore and smear. You sure showed her! > >I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to >Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't >let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and >what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike? > >And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you >specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New >Orleansthis summer for the third year in a row. You >just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, >there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you >had a much more important construction job for them  BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN >IRAQ! > >On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was >moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as >you >flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, >I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and >act like a commander in chief. Been there done that. > >There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use >it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to >nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen >because >the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm >like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken >Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it >would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to >Cleveland. > >No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent >of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no >transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not >like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people >on >their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING >-- to do with this! > >You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters >and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf >Coastare near Tikrit. > >Yours, > >Michael Moore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:17:18 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: njc a lawyer's perspective The following descriptions by Prof. Michelle Ghetti of Southern University Law School in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, paint a stark picture: I know your hearts, in particular, are for lawyers. Think of this... 5,000 - 6,000 lawyers (1/3 of the lawyers in Louisiana) have lost their offices, their libraries, their computers with all information thereon, their client files - possibly their clients, as one attorney who e-mailed me noted. As I mentioned before, they are scattered from Florida to Arizona and have nothing to return to. Their children's schools are gone and, optimistically, the school systems in 8 parishes/counties won't be re-opened until after December. They must re-locate their lives. Our state supreme court is under some water - with all appellate files and evidence folders/boxes along with it. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals building is under some water - with the same effect. Right now there may only be 3-4 feet of standing water but, if you think about it, most files are kept in the basements or lower floors of courthouses. What effect will that have on the lives of citizens and lawyers throughout this state and this area of the country? And on the law? The city and district courts in as many as 8 parishes/counties are under water, as well as 3 of our circuit courts - with evidence/files at each of them ruined. The law enforcement offices in those areas are under water - again, with evidence ruined. 6,000 prisoners in 2 prisons and one juvenile facility are having to be securely relocated. We already have over-crowding at most Louisiana prisons and juvenile facilities. What effect will this have? And what happens when the evidence in their cases has been destroyed? Will the guilty be released upon the communities? Will the innocent not be able to prove their innocence? Our state bar offices are under water. Our state disciplinary offices are under water - again with evidence ruined. Our state disciplinary offices are located on Veteran's Blvd. in Metairie. Those of you who have been watching the news, they continue to show Veteran's Blvd. It's the shot with the destroyed Target store and shopping center under water and that looks like a long canal. Our Committee on Bar Admissions is located there and would have been housing the bar exams which have been turned in from the recent July bar exam (this is one time I'll pray the examiners were late in turning them in - we were set to meet in 2 weeks to go over the results). Will all of those new graduates have to retake the bar exam? Two of the 4 law schools in Louisiana are located in New Orleans (Loyola and Tulane - the 2 private ones that students have already paid about $8,000+ for this semester to attend). Another 1,000+ lawyers-to-be whose lives have been detoured. I've contacted professors at both schools but they can't reach anyone at those schools and don't know the amount of damage they've taken. Certainly, at least, this semester is over. I'm trying to reach the Chancellor's at Southern and LSU here in Baton Rouge to see if there's anything we can do to take in the students and/or the professors. I think I mentioned before, students from out of state have beens stranded at at least 2 of the other universities in New Orleans - they're moving up floor after floor as the water rises. Our local news station received a call from some medical students at Tulane Medical Center who were now on the 5th floor of the dormitories as the water had risen. One of them had had a heart attack and they had no medical supplies and couldn't reach anyone - 911 was busy, local law enforcement couldn't be reached, they were going through the phone book and reached a news station 90 miles away!! It took the station almost 45 minutes to finally find someone with FEMA to try to get in to them!! And, then, there are the clients whose files are lost, whose cases are stymied. Their lives, too, are derailed. Of course, the vast majority live in the area and that's the least of their worries. But, the New Orleans firms also have a large national and international client base. For example, I received an e-mail from one attorney friend who I work with on some crucial domestic violence (spousal and child) cases around the nation - those clients could be seriously impacted by the loss, even temporarily, of their attorney - and he can't get to them and is having difficulty contacting the many courts around the nation where his cases are pending. Large corporate clients may have their files blowing in the wind where the high rise buildings had windows blown out. I woke up this morning to the picture of Veteran's Blvd which made me think of my students who just took the bar. My thoughts wandered from there to the effect on the Disciplinary Offices. Then my thoughts continued on. I'm sure I'm still missing a big part of the future picture. It's just devastating. Can you imagine something of this dimension in your state? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:20:08 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: njc another lawyer's perspective from the Mihigan State Bar Probate listserv My Lord, the guy heading FEMA has no qualifications. What was he doing before getting pulled into FEMA by the Bush administration in 2003? He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. And yes, it is the same Michael D. Brown." - -- http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 16:23:22 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: (NJC) Political content How can a natural disaster be political? This is how. January 2001: Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a crony from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management. April 2001: Budget Director Mitch Daniels announces the Bush administration's goal of privatizing much of FEMA's work. In May, Allbaugh confirms that FEMA will be downsized: "Many are concerned that federal disaster assistance may have evolved into both an oversized entitlement program...." he said. "Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level." 2001: FEMA designates a major hurricane hitting New Orleans as one of the three "likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country." December 2002: After less than two years at FEMA, Allbaugh announces he is leaving to start up a consulting firm that advises companies seeking to do business in Iraq. He is succeeded by his deputy, Michael Brown, who, like Allbaugh, has no previous experience in disaster management. March 2003: FEMA is downgraded from a cabinet level position and folded into the Department of Homeland Security. Its mission is refocused on fighting acts of terrorism. 2003: Under its new organization chart within DHS, FEMA's preparation and planning functions are reassigned to a new Office of Preparedness and Response. FEMA will henceforth focus only on response and recovery. Summer 2004: FEMA denies Louisiana's pre-disaster mitigation funding requests. Says Jefferson Parish flood zone manager Tom Rodrigue: "You would think we would get maximum consideration....This is what the grant program called for. We were more than qualified for it." June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay." June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. August 2005: While New Orleans is undergoing a slow motion catastrophe, Bush mugs for the cameras, cuts a cake for John McCain, plays the guitar for Mark Wills, delivers an address about V-J day, and continues with his vacation. When he finally gets around to acknowledging the scope of the unfolding disaster, he delivers only a photo op on Air Force One and a flat, defensive, laundry list speech in the Rose Garden. A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. Mitigation budgets for New Orleans were slashed even though it was known to be one of the top three risks in the country. FEMA was deliberately downsized as part of the Bush administration's conservative agenda. After DHS was created, FEMA's preparation and planning functions were taken away. Actions have consequences. No one could predict that a hurricane the size of Katrina would hit this year, but the slow federal response when it did happen was no accident. It was the result of four years of deliberate Republican policy and budget choices. It's the Bush administration in a nutshell. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:26:49 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore I DO like the dude, and think he would make a much better commander in chief than the one we have. And no, George Bush does not make me ashamed to be an American. I'm ashamed he is an American. Fiddling while Rome burns: here is Bush at a photo-op with his new custom-made guitar with inlaid presidential seal. Even beginners will recognize his fingering-a G chord.....on the wrong fret. http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/fiddles.jpg Lori Fye wrote: > You may not like the dude, but he tells it like it is, especially this time. > > Friday, September 2nd, 2005 > > Dear Mr. Bush: > > Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and > thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on > earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help > finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a > drag. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:10:15 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: RE: (NJC) Political content - -------------- Original message -------------- Richard Flynn bombastically (a la the evil Michael Moore) stated: How can a natural disaster be political? This is how. A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. My reply to Bush-hating rhetoric such as that: I believe I pointed out in a prior email that the Bush appointee as FEMA head was in fact an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. He is also a Repupblican activtist. Sounds more than qualified to me. If all those carless lazy ass New Orleans residents had packed up their trust documents and ridden their Arabian Horses out of Louisana last weekend, the dummies wouldn't be dead or half-drowned or trapped in an urban cess pool. Vince, waving his flag and chanting "W, W, W" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:10:16 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: RE: (NJC) Political content - -------------- Original message -------------- Richard Flynn bombastically (a la the evil Michael Moore) stated: How can a natural disaster be political? This is how. A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. My reply to Bush-hating rhetoric such as that: I believe I pointed out in a prior email that the Bush appointee as FEMA head was in fact an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. He is also a Repupblican activtist. Sounds more than qualified to me. If all those carless lazy ass New Orleans residents had packed up their trust documents and ridden their Arabian Horses out of Louisana last weekend, the dummies wouldn't be dead or half-drowned or trapped in an urban cess pool. Vince, waving his flag and chanting "W, W, W" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:13:46 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: (NJC) Political content addendum: working url http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:10:59 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: RE: (NJC) Political content - -------------- Original message -------------- Richard Flynn bombastically (a la the evil Michael Moore) stated: How can a natural disaster be political? This is how. A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. My reply to Bush-hating rhetoric such as that: I believe I pointed out in a prior email that the Bush appointee as FEMA head was in fact an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department. He is also a Repupblican activtist. Sounds more than qualified to me. If all those carless lazy ass New Orleans residents had packed up their trust documents and ridden their Arabian Horses out of Louisana last weekend, the dummies wouldn't be dead or half-drowned or trapped in an urban cess pool. Vince, waving his flag and chanting "W, W, W" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:20:16 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" > > Actions have consequences. No one could predict that a hurricane the size > of > Katrina would hit this year, but the slow federal response when it did > happen was no accident. It was the result of four years of deliberate > Republican policy and budget choices. It's the Bush administration in a > nutshell. > This is sickening. I would say it goes further back than the Bush administration. My feeling is it started with Ronald Reagan. My one hope at this time in the midst of all the horror and devastation is that this is the beginning of the end of the so-called Republican Revolution. I don't know where people think help will come from when government programs have had their budgets slashed to the bone or have been eliminated altogether. There does need to be some hard scrutiny of government spending but it needs to be in the line of hard examination of how money is spent and who it goes to instead of eliminating services that people need. Maybe those programs would not have had to have been cut if the pockets of fat cats weren't being lined and we hadn't embarked on a hopeless war that we had no business getting into in the first place. At this point in time, my most ardent wish as far as our government is concerned is that that SOB Bush would be impeached and all the thugs in his administration be tossed out with him. I don't usually write political posts but I am so upset and so outraged by the whole debacle in New Orleans and Mississippi that I find it hard to be silent. Something has to change. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:51:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore maybe its an alternate tuning, Randy. OR maybe those fingers are fast on the fly, and he's doing some stuff on there we just can't fathom. :P ya think? lol Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > I DO like the dude, and think he would make a much better > commander in chief than the one we have. And no, George Bush > does not make me ashamed to be an American. I'm ashamed he > is an American. > Fiddling while Rome burns: here is Bush at a photo-op with his new > custom-made guitar with inlaid presidential seal. Even beginners > will recognize his fingering-a G chord.....on the wrong fret. > http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/fiddles.jpg > > Lori Fye wrote: > > > You may not like the dude, but he tells it like it is, especially > this time. > > > > Friday, September 2nd, 2005 > > > > Dear Mr. Bush: > > > > Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane > Katrina and > > thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. > Where on > > earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you > need help > > finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was > that a > > drag. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:14:52 -0700 From: Yael Harlap Subject: rose polenzani and sharon lewis NJC woah, am i coming out of the woodwork?! just for a second to respond to azeem... rose and sharon played a concert in my house in michigan last year!! i'm a big fan of rose's and she's played two house concerts at my place in ann arbor. now i live in vancouver and don't have a space that can accomodate house concerts, sadly... but yeah, she and sharon are both great musicians, and great people! peace, yael At 01:41 PM 9/2/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:38:57 +0100 >From: "Azeem" >Subject: Rose Polenzani and Sharon Lewis njc > >I went to see this two-for-the-price-of-one gig on Monday on the basis >of my unstinting admiration for Sharon Lewiss sadly defunct duo Pooka. >Rose Polenzani may well be known to some of you on the other side of the >Atlantic, though she was new to me. And I was mightily impressed: she >has a beautiful, mellifluous voice and writes musically rewarding and >lyrically acute songs. She tours a lot in the US, and I can only say, >go and see her. > >Sharon Lewis is an utterly enchanting presence, tiny and quietly >charismatic. She has a singular voice, capable of great variation of >tone and timbre. Her songs have a visceral pull. She toured the US >with Rose last year, so maybe some of you saw her. Anyone? > >The bonus here was that they sang harmonies one each others sets, and >their voices gelled exquisitely. They had a lovely rapport too. And >all this in a tiny London venue, the !2 Bar, with an audience that >couldnt have exceeded 30. Live music, its great innit? > >Azeem in London >NP: Rose Polenzani - Easter Hymn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:25:03 -0700 From: Yael Harlap Subject: and a little more, just a little NJC hi again! i guess since now i am unemployed and bored (though there are squillions of things i could be doing), i'll post just a little :) live music is great! i'm suffering from a lack of it now that i've moved and don't have the fabulous Ark to go to whenever i want.. but this weekend i'm going to see keren ann (synchronicity, azeem!), and next weekend down to seattle to see royksopp and annie (norwegian electronic/pop). and oct 5th i'll see Feist. have people talked about Feist? i've missed a lot of jmdl over the past year, just dip in once in a while. hooray for live music. i'm a terribly excited that kate bush is releasing a new album on nov 8th!! anyone else chuffed about that one? - -yael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:21:48 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Joni and the Magi NJC The word Magic derives from the Greek word Magio (deceivers) having, so the story goes, deceived Herod.... it is also the founding root of the word Magic..... At my infant and junior school we used the word Magi rather than Wise men or Kings... Although we learned the words to the Christmas hymn "We Three Kings of Orient Are" and knew about the gold Frankincence and Myhrr... These were wise men but also possibly shamen or witchdoctors, as well as scholars, priests or maybe kings. They came from different areas and met en route (think Close Encounters of the third kind) There were in fact to begin with (so the story goes) Melchior, Balthazar, and Caspar, plus Taor who also went with them.. but for me the best tale is "The Journey of the Magi" by T S ELiot and one I read time and time again... it is such a wonderful account and so straight and unromantic...it for me is real.. I always assumed joni would have used Eliot as her source for some of her inspiration, since she is also likes W B Yeats... and other modernists... I am starting to understand Joni from the construct of someone influenced by modernist construct.. Hejira is a bit like Eliots "A WAsteland" Anyway, for those of you who do not know T S ELIOT and "the coming of the Magi" here it is...if it has been mentioned in posts since the three or four that answered the original query I apologise. Lucy THE COMING OF THE MAGI 'A cold coming we had of it, Just the worst time of the year For a journey, and such a long journey: The ways deep and the weather sharp, The very dead of winter.' And the camels galled, sore-footed, refractory, Lying down in the melting snow. There were times we regretted The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces, And the silken girls bringing sherbet. Then the camel men cursing and grumbling And running away, and wanting their liquor and women, And the night-fires going out, and the lack of shelters, And the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly And the villages dirty and charging high prices: A hard time we had of it. At the end we preferred to travel all night, Sleeping in snatches, With the voices singing in our ears, saying That this was all folly. Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley, Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation; With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness, And three trees on the low sky, And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow. Then we came to a tavern with vine-leaves over the lintel, Six hands at an open door dicing for pieces of silver, And feet kicking the empty wine-skins. But there was no information, and so we continued And arrived at evening, not a moment too soon Finding the place; it was (you may say) satisfactory. All this was a long time ago, I remember, And I would do it again, but set down This set down This: were we led all that way for Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly, We had evidence and no doubt. I had seen birth and death, But had thought they were different; this Birth was Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death. We returned to our places, these Kingdoms, But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation, With an alien people clutching their gods. I should be glad of another death. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 16:13:36 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni and the Magi NJC Lucy Hone wrote: > These were wise men but also possibly shamen or witchdoctors, as well as > scholars, priests or maybe kings. And surely they were astrologers, or informed by same ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 16:14:58 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore Em wrote: > maybe its an alternate tuning, Randy. > OR maybe those fingers are fast on the fly, and he's doing some stuff > on there we just can't fathom. Yeah, that's it.... come to think of it, he's constantly doing stuff we just can't fathom > Even beginners > > will recognize his fingering-a G chord.....on the wrong fret. > > http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/fiddles.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:49:30 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore Hey Bree, I'll be happy to shoot anyone filling up shopping carts with unnecessary stuff ... I'll even bring my own gun and bullets. Seriously. None of this has anything to do with Bush and the election. That's long over. Yes, we know we're stuck with him. And he proves everyday why so many of us didn't vote for him, as he shows how little regard he has for anyone but himself and his cronies. THAT's what pisses everyone off. He goes on vacation, year after year, while the war he started with lies rages on with no end in sight. (We can train a kid off the farm to be a soldier in 6 to 8 weeks, but we can't train an Iraqi in 2 1/2 years? What's wrong with this picture? Or is it that the administration really DOESN'T want the war to end?) Bush flies over the disaster in Air Force One and gazes out the window for a photo op. Flies over, high enough so he can't smell the shit and piss and death below. God forbid he land and slog though the water to experience what it's really like; he might get his shoes dirty. > the prez was in San Diego honoring and remembering our war dead. Really? Why not show us all the flag draped coffins coming off the planes at Dover AFB, then? Let us ALL see and know what's REALLY happening. Lori, who hopes gasoline rises to $15 a gallon, because it's the only thing that will get anyone's attention ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:01:37 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content > At this point in time, my most ardent wish as far as our government is > concerned is that that SOB Bush would be impeached and all the thugs > in his administration be tossed out with him. You're too kind, Mark. My most ardent wish is that someone assassinates their asses. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:58:01 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Letter from Michael Moore -- AND > the city is under WATER..for God's sakes ..it takes time to get help in > there...then when help does arrive..they became target > practice...GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ......... The city is under water. We don't have a Navy? Coast Guard? What exactly is the problem? Or is the Navy stretched too thin because most of it is in the Persian Gulf? Is the Coast Guard too busy with "homeland security" duties? Yes, it takes time to get ships and boats into places, but it's not like we didn't know the hurricane was coming. I'm not suggesting the Navy and Coast Guard should have waiting in the Gulf of Mexico to be tossed about like toy boats in a bathtub, but there are ways to prepare, places to wait. If we weren't stretched so thin fighting Vietnam II ... And where are the helicopters? Those are very easy to get in and out. Where is the National Guard that is paid by the state, whose duty is first and foremost to the state it's based in? Oh ... we know where those troops are, don't we? It amazes me how blind people continue to be to Bush and his ilk. Just amazes me. May he and the rest of his administration rot in hell. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content breath, Lori....breath...... :( Concentrate on the good stuff, k? maybe? What the nurses and other staff are doing at Charity Hospital.... they are heroes. Its nice to have a hero right now. I, myself, can no longer draw energy from anger/bad stuff. I need "sweeter fare". Wishing it for everyone. You too, my righteous friend. Em - --- Lori Fye wrote: > > At this point in time, my most ardent wish as far as our government > is > > concerned is that that SOB Bush would be impeached and all the > thugs > > in his administration be tossed out with him. > > You're too kind, Mark. > > My most ardent wish is that someone assassinates their asses. > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content Good point, Em...a little "sweeter fare" for ya. I'm proud to say that Fluor filled up a BIG truck with water, canned goods and other supplies and trucked it down yesterday. I pitched in and most of my co-workers did the same. Had so many donations we couldn't get them all on the truck. And most of them are Bush fans & good people just the same, it's difficult for them to see past the religious and patriotic smokescreen he puts up. Or as our Joni would say, the "Borderline". Definitely a "true color" moment for Bush and his true colors are showing. And lordy we still have more than three years of his incompetence - yikes! Bob Em wrote: breath, Lori....breath...... :( Concentrate on the good stuff, k? maybe? What the nurses and other staff are doing at Charity Hospital.... they are heroes. Its nice to have a hero right now. I, myself, can no longer draw energy from anger/bad stuff. I need "sweeter fare". Wishing it for everyone. You too, my righteous friend. Em - --- Lori Fye wrote: > > At this point in time, my most ardent wish as far as our government > is > > concerned is that that SOB Bush would be impeached and all the > thugs > > in his administration be tossed out with him. > > You're too kind, Mark. > > My most ardent wish is that someone assassinates their asses. > > Lori Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 22:04:58 EDT From: JasonMaloney71@aol.com Subject: Re: Keren Ann njc Azeem, Nolita is one of those albums I've had kicking around for some time and yet I never quite find that "right moment". The upside of my prevarication is that, I suppose, albums of its kind are largely timeless and, unlike for example Kaiser Chiefs, it probably won't make me feel duped in 2 years' time! Nice to see a Scritti mention the other day. I'm still waiting on a Best Of of some kind....if only for those non-album singles from 1991/92. Jason (so hugely relieved and thankful that Paz is safe and his home has escaped the worst) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 22:33:40 EDT From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re:joni & janis In a message dated 9/2/2005 1:45:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: Like most folks, I'd welcome the thought of Joni working on ANYTHING new, and I'd love to see her lose some of her long-time collaborators and pick up on something fresh. Not that I think it's going to happen, mind you. Bob I guess ,m thought is, just think abou the jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and the bluezzzzzzzzzzzz AND they are both pioneers in the art of music noel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 00:25:05 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content > breath, Lori....breath...... I'm breathing, Em, and I feel lucky to do so. As for my sentiments about BushCo, that's how I've always felt. I just picked today to finally say it. Lori, trying to convince "the missus" that we need to move to Canada (and not having much luck, unfortunately -- I may have to go alone) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 00:30:51 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: But be prepared to bleed Personally, I'd like to partcipate in the truly old fashioned gathering of "besmirchers" (great word, Em), sitting naked on moss covered rocks, sipping tea and whiling away their 5 to 7 days chatting and singing and celebrating together. Anyone up for it? ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 00:53:37 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Michael Moore and Julius(NJC) > flying off to San Diego to glorify war and the military,after Gulfport, Biloxi and the rest of the Gulf Coast has been flattened You brought up something very interesting, Darice, at least to me: Biloxi is the home of Keesler Air Force Base, a MAJOR military training center. It's where I went to radar repair school (twice), advanced soldering school, and it was also my last assignment after 10 years in the AF and Guard. It's the first place that thousands of young (18-26 year old) airmen (and a smaller number of soldiers and sailors) go after completing basic training (boot camp), to learn how to do the job they'll do for the next 4 to 6 years. From Keesler, most of them go someplace else -- and these days, many of them end up in Iraq or very nearby. You would think Bush might've considered heading to Keesler to honor those kids -- who, afterall, continue to volunteer to serve in the military in these crazy and uncertain times -- as well as to assure Biloxi and the rest of the Gulf Coast that he cares. A missed (photo) opportunity if ever there was one. Today I received some (unclassified but not generally available) photos of the damage at Keesler AFB. Anyone who is interested in seeing them, let me know and I'll share them with you. These aren't aerial shots; the photographer was apparently in a car at ground level. They're very startling if you've ever spent time at Keesler, and even if you haven't. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 01:01:36 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Keesler AFB Photos (from ground level) I just got another email regarding the photos I mentioned a few minutes ago. The photos have now been uploaded to the Radomes.org website and are available here: http://www.radomes.org/museum/documents/KeeslerAFBMSKatrina082005.html Having taken a better look now, I have to amend my previous statement: these photos were taken by the passenger in a 2.5- ("deuce and a half") or a 5- ton truck (I can tell from the sideview mirrors). As the website states, "It took some stones to get these photos!" Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 01:46:21 -0400 From: "JR" Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "Lori Fye" ; Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (NJC) Political content > Concentrate on the good stuff, k? maybe? > Em Oh! I like unicorns, rainbows and little cute puppies! Jeez, take your head outta yer ass, will ya? This is SERIOUS SHIT and you wanna talk about sunsets?! My hero? Michael Moore, because he's not afraid to show everyone (in Fahrenheit 9/11) what a complete douchebag and moron Bush is. W's not qualified for dog-catcher, much less the leader of the "free" world. There's a nice room in hell that awaits his cabal. JR in NH ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:28:13 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Joni and the Magi NJC Oh yes! astrologers too...... how could I forget the star!!! maybe they were spacemen! Randy Remote wrote: >Lucy Hone wrote: > > > >>These were wise men but also possibly shamen or witchdoctors, as well as >>scholars, priests or maybe kings. >> >> > >And surely they were astrologers, or informed by same ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:34:55 -0400 From: vince Subject: njc Michael Tolcher's schedule if you live close, check him out - his album does not move me greatly but his live performances are just so beyond good, amongst the best ever that I have seen - please check him out live Vince In this Edition: ."Sooner or Later"- iTunes Download of the Week, Sept. 7th! .Chicago Apple Store Performance .Tour Dates "Sooner or Later"- iTunes Download of the Week, Sept. 7th! That's right, just as "Sooner or Later" gets ready to hit the airwaves, iTunes will be featuring Michael's new single as their FREE "Download of the Week!" starting September 7th! This download will be FREE so make sure to tell your friends who haven't heard Michael yet! More details and a direct link will follow once it's up! Chicago Apple Store Performance Apple has really taken a liking to Michael, because in addition to the download of the week, Michael has been chosen to do an in-store performance at the Apple store in Chicago! Show Details WHO: well, Michael Tolcher, of course! WHEN: Sunday, September 25th, 3PM WHERE: Apple Store- Chicago 679 North Michigan Ave. Chicago, IL 60611 (312) 981-4104 Tour Dates Make sure you catch Michael in your town. Visit the tour page at www.michaeltolcher.com for more details. 9/2/05 JACKSONVILLE, AL Brother's Bar 9/3/05 AUBURN, AL Phi Gamma Delta Fraternity 9/4/05 BRISTOL, RI Roger Williams University w. G. Love & Special Sauce 9/7/05 BOSTON, MA Axis w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/8/05 NEW HAVEN, CT Toad's Place w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/9/05 HOBOKEN, NJ Maxwell's w. As Fast As 9/10/05 FALLS CHURCH, VA The State Theater 9/14/05 CLEVELAND, OH Odeon Concert Club w. Josh Kelley 9/16/05 NEWPORT NEWS, VA Christopher Newport University w. Josh Kelley 9/17/05 LEWISBURG, PA Bucknell University w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/20/05 FARMINGDALE, NY Downtown w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/21/05 PITTSBURGH, PA Mr. Small's Theater w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/22/05 CHARLOTTE, NC Neighborhood Theater w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/23/05 HUNTSVILLE, AL Big Spring Jam @ Big Spring Park w. Josh Kelley & As Fast As 9/24/05 QUINCY, IL Quincy University w. Better Than Ezra 9/25/05 CHICAGO, IL Apple Store In-Store Performance 9/29/05-10/3/05 THE ROCK BOAT Thank You for your support! To unsubscribe from publications from Octone Records and its bands, just reply to this message and put "unsubscribe" somewhere in the subject line. 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