From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #332 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 31 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 332 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Paz! NJC [] hurricane relief donations ["Mark Scott" ] JoniFest 2005 (SJC?) [Lucatello Adriano ] Re: New Orleans Update [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: New Orleans Update [Catherine McKay ] Re: New Orleans Update [Bob Muller ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Paz! NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: New Orleans Update [Catherine McKay ] Re: I love the VMAs njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: An Essay by E.L. Doctorow (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Paz! NJC [] thank God I'm an atheist (njc) ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] RE: New Orleans Update njc ["Kate Bennett" ] sounds like coyote to me ["Kate Bennett" ] some light relief (joni content if you choose) ["ron" ] Re: Michael Paz and family [Smurf ] Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) njc now [Catherine McK] Re: Michael Paz and family [Catherine McKay ] Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) ["Ric Robinson" ] Re: Michael Paz and family njc [Randy Remote ] Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) NJC [Bob Muller ] new orleans upsdate, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] PBS: Best news coverage of Katrina? njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: New Kate Bush double album to be released Nov 8th njc [Catherine McKa] Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) NJC [Em ] RE: Michael Paz and family njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] back home again LONG (vljc) [JoniPD ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:15:24 -0500 From: Subject: Paz! NJC Hey, Michael! Been reading the news since the levee broke this afternoon, and it sure looks bad. If you're able to, please give us a "shout out," and let us know you're OK. And that goes for any other New Orleans, Mississipi, and Alabama/Florida panhandle members I might not know about, or don't remember at the moment. Stay safe, everybody, Mary. P.S. Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered: I'm on digest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:25:47 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: hurricane relief donations http://www.mccormicktribune.org/mtf/hurricanerelief.htm The McCormick Tribune Foundation will match $.50 on the dollar for any donation for hurricane relief for the first $1,000,000 donated. Go to the link shown above for information. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:59:17 +0200 From: Lucatello Adriano Subject: JoniFest 2005 (SJC?) Hi there, Now that the JoniFest is history just allow me share my happy moments with you and to thank all who made it possible. We only came back home last night. Tomorrow a busy office desk is waiting for me. This year I decided that I could not possibly miss a JoniFest in Europe and in an area practically unknown to me and my family so I gladly joined our happy bunch of people. My wife Licia and daughter Marta opted to daily commute between the friendly B&B of Mme. Tavart and the sunny and sandy beaches close to Perpignan. Well, it worked out that they were not so close and easy to reach as seen on the map, so, being the main and only driver abroad in the family, I had to share my time between the Joni community at the Fest and my own family with their vacation! So my main regret now is not to have spent all the time with my Joni friends... but there will be more JoniFest to attend... We arrived at the Girona airport from Treviso, a cheap Ryan Air flight, got the rented car and drove exactly as explained by Laurent through the Gorges de Galamus (maybe pretty in the daylight) and felt the "urge for going" and quickly going out of that itinerary. We arrived at Madame Tavart's B&B at Davejean at around 11:30 in the night, without getting any food on the way not to waste time at all. All eating places were close and Mme Tavart was so moved by our famished looks that she got out from somewhere a large dish of meat steaks, white small beans, tomatoes with onions and a large baguette and wine, rouge. We did a good performance there indeed... In the morning we met Les and Jaimie who were staying at the same B&B, had more food again and with their help we managed to make it to the Fest site. I did not expect it be like that at all and there was something great to see everywhere, it was like re-living my younger sort of hippish days at the beach and the terraces around the Trieste coast. Then we were surrounded by everyone else and were amazed to realize that all these people were coming from all over the places and shared a common love, Joni and music, mostly hers, yes. Marta fell immediately in love with the kittens around the house, there were so many... and that saved my day... or at least some part of that! The live performances in the evening were all excellent and worth to remember, Anita and Jamie intense and sweet songs, you both sang all m y favourites, and your performance was also very much appreciated by Licia, Bob's humorous side of singing (your jazzy voice and perfect timing..), the deep melancholy of Randall's songs, Claudia and (again) Randall's perfect duets, Lucy's song (which I hope to have recorded on my video before the tripod lent me by Laurent passed away, after some heavy "footage" and being trampled on), Lucy what was the name of the song? Les's rendition of Ivette in English was something unheard before... Thierry's version of some of my favourites Joni songs was also impeccable, thanks for Gericho and Harry's House... I hoped someone would sing them at some stage and then you stepped in! Intense and supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Strings, bubbling with life and humour and yet capable of conveying so much emotion, (just bought your band's cd, from Cd Baby - Order #963860... hope it comes soon to fatten up my iPod...) please sing again... Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay! Yes, the Bohemian Rhapsody and the song contest were a bonus and we shared a lot of fun with you, Queen Lulu, Bob and friends. What more can I say about being with you? Ashara & Eric - you were great fun to be with, I finally managed to hear the Black Eyed Peas song you mentioned to Marta, it is now on her and mine iPod (NJC). Lieve - thanks for reassuring me that the JoniFest was also meant for those who were mere spectators like us, I liked your electronic gadget but I want to tell you that I was able to stay without accessing my e-mail for more than 2 weeks and I felt better! Garret from Ireland - you were great fun to watch at the song contest! Jamie - I enjoyed driving along with you to get the wine (or at least part of it!) and taking pictures. You told me that it was the first time you drove on the right side in Europe, my wife should have heard that, she would not have allowed me! Catherine - great person, a zuper Mom and an excellent singer - I hope that next time Marta, Matt and Sarah will spend more time together. John & Claudia - nice to meet you in real life and realize that you were exactly as friendly and caring as I thought after exchanging our e-mail messages. Emiliano - pure fun, a caballero and a pleasure to be with, maybe we represented the Spanish-type peepuls? Lucy (and kids) - thanks forall the fun, we shall rehearse for the next contest! Guy - thanks for the good things you said about the Joni group, yes they made us feel at home and well cared for. Laurent - perfect host, thanks to you, your wife, daughters and their friends for making us feel at home and giving tips for the next best beach, Collioure was excellent. I will send you my "other half" of the Joni sessions on dvd as soon as possible. I had no time yet to check the tapes. The rest of our holiday passed without any great problems, a part from arguing on almost everything with my daughter and to make up and go jogging together in the morning, I was able to meet more friends from Spain I met over the internet, thanks to our neverending love for music. We walked around the "tapas" in Leon, eating and drinking, enjoyed drinking cider in Las Asturias and ended up in Barcelona, where I hoped to meet some of the Joni group walking down the Ramblas... The worst part of our tour was a night in Coimbra under black smoke in the night and white ashes and blackened leaves of eucalyptus falling in the morning... we were there to meet a family we had known long time ago but the meeting, for some unknown reasons, did not materialise and after all we were not in the mood for a tourist tour where people were facing such problems and hurriedly left the morning after... to reach the safer area of Soria in Spain. After that We realised how bad it could have looked for the people in Pompei... but before doing that I was able to hear some new Portuguese music and got it back home.... Anyway, to end my long posting, I wish to have spent more time and experiences with all of you but I could not meet everyone or stay longer. So, to have another chance for meeting you, if you agree the next JoniFest could be held in Trieste (Italy), just let me have your views, opinions on this and I will start to get organized, I am serious about it. Adriano (with Licia and Marta) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:04:49 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: New Orleans Update My sympathies go out to any residents on this list of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. It has made top story on newscasts here in Sydney. It sure looks like a tsunami to me. I am an ex resident of Georgia but, luckily, never experienced any tornadoes or hurricanes there. A minor storm passed through southern Australia yesterday (maybe out of sympathy) and a young girl lost her life but, the devastation we have seen on the TV news here is heart-breaking. "Blocks of apartments in Biloxi, Mississippi have become tombs" - Robert Penfold, National Nine News. Mark in Sydney NP Rainy Night House - Frannie Verney & The Big Idea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:07:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Orleans Update - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > My sympathies go out to any residents on this list > of Louisiana, > Mississippi and Alabama. It has made top story on > newscasts here in > Sydney. Here too, and the fact that it's raining now - remnants of Katrina - reinforces that. I just brought in the morning paper and the devastation is the ONLY thing on page one, plus there is a large section inside the paper. It is just terrible and as someone already asked, where is GWB during this? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:16:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Catherine, it's like he said to reporters about Cindy Sheehan...he can't be bothered, he's "got to get on with his life". Meanwhile, our poverty rate is up to 12.7% with unemployment rising and incomes flattening and gas predicted to top $3/gallon by labor day and the oil companies already making OBSCENE profits. Thank you Meester Bush. Can't blame him for Fiddy Cent, though. Pity. Bob Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:51:59 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Paz! NJC > One of my best friend9s sister, nephew, and mother came to his house here in > St. Pete, thinking they would be here for a few days. Now it will be months. > Neither of the women have heard from their husbands. Reality is just sinking > in. So glad Michael and his whole family left. > > Jerry > > It is a disaster, and even though I know Paz and his family are okay, I worry > about his house.......plus all the poor people that are trapped. It's only > going to get worse with the levy breaking. > I tried calling Paz on his cell, but just get a message that due to the > hurricane, the cell phones aren't working. > I'm just glad Mikey went to Houston. > > my heart pours out to all the folks in the south. > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Orleans Update - --- Bob Muller wrote: > where is GWB during this? > > > Catherine, it's like he said to reporters about > Cindy Sheehan...he can't be bothered, he's "got to > get on with his life". Meanwhile, our poverty rate > is up to 12.7% with unemployment rising and incomes > flattening and gas predicted to top $3/gallon by > labor day and the oil companies already making > OBSCENE profits. Thank you Meester Bush. > You and I (the pawns) can get on with our lives. Presidents of countries cannot. If he can't handle it, he should step down. Gas today is 110.6 a litre here. They don't say $1.106 either. They say 110.6 (cents.) While I was in Europe, the diesel (gazole) was 1.03 a litre at the beginning and 1.13 at the end. I was thinking that wasn't so bad but then I had to realize that was euros, not (Canadian) dollars. It would have been about 1.60 a litre in Canadian dollars so, while it's gouging and sick, it is still a lot more expensive in Europe and it is still cheaper in the US than anywhere else. In fact, much of what you buy in France, at least, costs more than it does here in North America, so we may whine, but in fact, we don't have as much a right to whine as they do in many other countries. Time to explore alternate fuels, or else get rid of our cars. My lease just happens to be up Oct. 4 and I was trying to decide whether to get a new car or not. I think Fate has intervened and said, "Public transit!" Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:59:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: I love the VMAs njc Hi Vince, When I read posts on this subject I can't help but think about the beatnick coffee shops back in the 60's where someone would get up, say something totally out there to the background beat of a drum and an upright bass and the audience would go, "Deep!" and show their appreciation by nods and fingersnaps. Words like "Groovy" and "Cool Cat" were standards in conversation. I was a little too young for this era but I do remember when "copastetic" was a word used in my circle all the time. "Everything is copastetic..." I consider rap a form of expression from an angry and frustrated generation. I also consider it a form of poetry. Like Lori, I'd like to shoot out a subwoofer or two in DC because to me, that's just inconsiderate no matter what style of music is playing. There was this guy blasting country beside me at a stop light a while back to the point where I had to roll up my window. To me, that is just as inconsiderate. I think that it's perfectly normal for someone in one generation to say to someone of another generation, "What is that noise??? Turn it down!!!!" To me, it's kind of the way things work. I think each generation needs their own music to identify with. In the 80's there was punk rock which was another way of young angry people getting out their frustrations (except it could be very painful...Sex Pistols front and center...a person could really get hurt being there!) In the early 50's, it was Rock and Roll and Elvis Presley. In the African American community, it was Rhythm and Blues which derived itself from gospel roots and set many teeth on edge. I guess my point is that it's always something and it makes the world go round and round (thinking of the chorus of "the Circle Game) Everything old becomes new again and we just start over. I have peace with that. Sherelle Vince wrote: I don't feel sorry for lovers of rap at all, rather, I embrace the music and consider the fans very lucky. Embrace each genre or step aside, but don't pity it or condescend because no genre of music has all possibilities within it. At the age of 53 I have been to a lot of concerts in my days of every type of music and that includes my love of opera and marching bands and rock and roll and symphonic and it is at rap concerts alone where I see everybody dance. Not some of the crowd, everybody dances. Everybody. If a fan of rap were to have pity, it would be on those who have lost the beat and would set aside percussion, creativity, experimentation, sampling, and other innovations that bring something new out of what was. I feel sorry for everyone who doesn't get it, whatever it may be. I feel sorry for those who reject the present for a future that they expect to be like the past. And I wish that all may feel the harmony that occurs at a rap concert. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:05:52 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: An Essay by E.L. Doctorow (njc) Hi Laura, Thank you for sharing this essay. I don't mean to offend anyone so please forgive me ahead of time, but searching my heart, I totally agree with this essay. Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:12:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: its not the music, its you (and me) njc Hi Vince, If I had scrolled a little further down I would have seen that we are of similar minds on this subject! Sherelle Vince wrote: Just as my parents had no knowledge of rock and roll and had no way to evaluate the art form or cast judgement but they did - it all sounded the same to them. (And how ironic that my father is tone deaf to opera and I inherited his mother's ear for it.) If someone played for me the greatest Aleut music ever, I would't have a clue. The reason I know rap is because I have studied it, taken the time, listened carefully with an open mind and learned - what we ask of any student in a musical appreciation class when we teach different genres of music. The college student who struggles in Music Appreciation because all classical music sounds the same - not the music's fault, just the hearer does not know enough to know what to listen to. That is why Music is taught, especially for those who did not get their musical "fix" in a broard array of music, and msuic is far more vast than any one of us can apprehend. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:18:10 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Oh Paz! I am trying to fight similiar feelings and I am sorry too! At first I had a glimmer of hope because New Orleans had been spared a direct hit. But when the levys started to give, my heart sank. Now people must be careful of poisonous snakes like the cottonmouth while wading through the water. I am at a loss for words as well. I am so glad you are all right. All anyone can do now is take this one day at a time. Take care Paz and keep us posted on things if you can. Love and sorrow, Sherelle At this point I am almost at a total loss for words, but will try to express what I am feeling. The damage is far worse than we imagined. Communication is very little if any. Most peoples cellphonesdo not work. Land lines and electricity totally out. Two breaches in the levee system has over 80% of New Orleans AND Metairie and Kenner under water. We have no communication with anyone in our own backyard. It appears that if we would have had a direct hit as feared New Orleans as we knew would be a memory. Calls continue to come in and the emails from all of you and I am so grateful. Where the fuck is our leader? How can he have a 5 week vacation while people are dying In Iraq and whereis the great leadership in regards to the Gulf Coast?? Sorry Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 8:41:42 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Paz! NJC Me now: I've read the JMDL only sporadically in the last few days, as is often the case, and didn't realize that Michael and his family had evacuated to Houston, but am very, very glad to hear that. And I don't have a sense as to whether the most recent destruction reached all the way to Destrahan, where Michael lives, but hope that his property damage is minimal. My thoughts now switch to what comes next. The damage to infrastructure seems so catastrophic, so comprehensive, that I don't see life there returning to any semblance of "normal" any time soon--or perhaps, the city and environs even being habitable for a significant time. But for now, I'm just grateful that MIchael, Freda and the kids are safe. And my thoughts and prayers are with those individuals and families still caught up in the thick of things there. Take care, Mary. > > From: Jerry Notaro > Date: 2005/08/31 Wed AM 07:51:59 CDT > To: > CC: Joni List > Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Paz! NJC > > > One of my best friend9s sister, nephew, and mother came to his house here in > > St. Pete, thinking they would be here for a few days. Now it will be months. > > Neither of the women have heard from their husbands. Reality is just sinking > > in. So glad Michael and his whole family left. > > > > Jerry > > > > It is a disaster, and even though I know Paz and his family are okay, I worry > > about his house.......plus all the poor people that are trapped. It's only > > going to get worse with the levy breaking. > > I tried calling Paz on his cell, but just get a message that due to the > > hurricane, the cell phones aren't working. > > I'm just glad Mikey went to Houston. > > > > my heart pours out to all the folks in the south. > > > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:35:49 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: thank God I'm an atheist (njc) My two cents: God doesn't need my praise. I need to pray. It's a wacky, confusing, chaotic world; prayer/meditation is a portable Zen garden. Praying for the residents of all of those "shotgun" homes which were swept away, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:44:29 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) How the war in Iraq affects New Orleans http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/8/30/222957/803 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:08:56 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Paz, yesterday I saw someone in Destrehan being interviewed on the news. Her house was still in tact and not flooded, though w/o electricity of course and they had never evacuated. I pray that this is a sign that your area and your home was spared. This is the only thing I've seen so far but will let you know if I see anything else specifically about Destrehan. Keeping you and your family - and everyone in the NO and other affected areas - in my thoughts and prayers. love donna >>> 8/30/2005 5:02:44 PM >>> At this point I am almost at a total loss for words, but will try to express what I am feeling. The damage is far worse than we imagined. Communication is very little if any. Most peoples cellphonesdo not work. Land lines and electricity totally out. Two breaches in the levee system has over 80% of New Orleans AND Metairie and Kenner under water. We have no communication with anyone in our own backyard. It appears that if we would have had a direct hit as feared New Orleans as we knew would be a memory. Calls continue to come in and the emails from all of you and I am so grateful. Where the fuck is our leader? How can he have a 5 week vacation while people are dying In Iraq and whereis the great leadership in regards to the Gulf Coast?? Sorry Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:40:37 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: New Orleans Update njc Richard wrote: >Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and frustration.< By Saturday or Sunday at the latest we knew this storm was going to be devastating to the area. Any real leader (as Paz calls him) would have been back at work by this weekend. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:49:03 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: sounds like coyote to me http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 "While his wife was hanging around the local coffeehouses with the likes of Ian and Sylvia, Ed Cowan, and Ted Schaefer - artistic director of first Mariposa Folk Festival - John was up early each day on the horse farms and the in bed early each night. "My wife wondered what had happened to the free spirit she married and we eventually split."" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:20:31 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: some light relief (joni content if you choose) hi how well do you know your joni album covers?????? http://www.scenta.co.uk/music/crop_of_the_pops.cfm i got 90% / 1,621 pop points, but i would expect folks here to do waaaayyyyyy beter ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:00:18 -0400 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Michael Paz and family Joniphiles - One of the great things about this community is the way people have always come together and helped in times of need. As many of you know, Michael Paz and his family are now in Houston, refugees from their home in New Orleans. A timetable for their return is at least weeks away, possibly months. Their income will no doubt be compromised considerably during this time. All donations made through the JMDL site will, until further notice, go directly to Michael and his family. I urge you to consider helping them with a donation - the process is quick and simple. You'll find a link at http://jmdl.com. Michael has always been one of the first to help others in this community. Let's return his kindness in his own family's time of need. Thanks, Les PS - Joni-onlys... thanks for reading. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family - --- Les Irvin wrote: > Michael has always been one of the first to help others in this > community. Let's return his kindness in his own family's time of > need. Even moreso, Michael has always been the first to help others in ANY community. How odd that just last winter he was helping victims of the waters the tsunami in Asia. Plus his work for his mother's "other" legacy, the Ruth Paz Foundation, helps poor people of Honduras get medical care. I think Paz should move to the White House. - --Bob ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:30:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) njc now Hmm, I got 100% but only 1120 pop points (whatever those are). I didn't realize speed was a factor in it and I guess I'm just not quick enough (now, there's an opening for anyone that owes me an insult and don't tell me I didn't tellya. It didn't help that I was doing this at work and having to make sure no one noticed what I was doing!) Vince should try the fitty-cent one. ;-] - --- ron wrote: > hi > > > how well do you know your joni album covers?????? > > http://www.scenta.co.uk/music/crop_of_the_pops.cfm > > i got 90% / 1,621 pop points, but i would expect > folks here to do waaaayyyyyy > beter > > > ron > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:39:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family - --- Smurf wrote: > --- Les Irvin wrote: > > > Michael has always been one of the first to help > others in this > > community. Let's return his kindness in his own > family's time of > need. > > Even moreso, Michael has always been the first to > help > others in ANY community. > > How odd that just last winter he was helping victims > of the waters the tsunami in Asia. Plus his work for > his mother's "other" legacy, the Ruth Paz > Foundation, > helps poor people of Honduras get medical care. > > I think Paz should move to the White House. > > --Bob > That would make him Prez Paz. I like the sound o' dat! Paz has always been very generous in helping out others. And Les, you rock. (Awww, heck, you too, Smurf!) "All donations made through the JMDL site will, until further notice, go directly to Michael and his family. I urge you to consider helping them with a donation - the process is quick and simple. You'll find a link at http://jmdl.com" Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:12:44 +0100 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) That was fun, 90% also but 1630 pop points (speed is of the essence) May I also pass on my best wishes to Paz. Kind regards, Ric - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron" To: "JMDL" Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: some light relief (joni content if you choose) > hi > > > how well do you know your joni album covers?????? > > http://www.scenta.co.uk/music/crop_of_the_pops.cfm > > i got 90% / 1,621 pop points, but i would expect folks here to do > waaaayyyyyy > beter > > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:22:43 +0100 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) yeehar! 100% and 2037 points at the second time of asking. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron" To: "JMDL" Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: some light relief (joni content if you choose) > hi > > > how well do you know your joni album covers?????? > > http://www.scenta.co.uk/music/crop_of_the_pops.cfm > > i got 90% / 1,621 pop points, but i would expect folks here to do > waaaayyyyyy > beter > > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:06:17 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: some light relief (joni content if you choose) Damn! I would have got 100% on Joni had I not inadvertently clicked the wrong answer on the Ladies of the Canyon one (yeah, right...). I did get 100% on David Bowie, Pink Floyd and Richard Thompson, though. Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 30/08/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:13:19 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: New Orleans update, njc Randy wrote: This too shall pass. Richard wrote: Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and frustration. Hi Ya'll, I used to live in Mobile and visited New Orleans often as well as the Gulfport/Biloxi area so they are dear to me as are my friends down there. Many good times down there and more to be had... New Orleans and G/B will recover. I heard a lady on the radio say New Orleans will be rebuilt even better than it was. Not much to be accomplished in being angry at nature. We are all here as a gift of nature. So the best we can do is live with and respect it. I interpreted Paz' anger as being mainly toward the complacency of our president. I share that anger. Other presidents would have already been to the areas. GAG as I type this he is on TV being "presidential"... saying he flew over, nothing about landing and touring. His term too shall pass, though not quickly enough. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:52:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: some light relief (joni content if you choose) totally njc - --- Azeem wrote: > Damn! I would have got 100% on Joni had I not > inadvertently clicked the > wrong answer on the Ladies of the Canyon one (yeah, > right...). I did > get 100% on David Bowie, Pink Floyd and Richard > Thompson, though. > > Azeem in London Yabbut, how FAST did you go, Mr Smarty-pants? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:25:53 -0400 From: Doug Subject: New Kate Bush double album to be released Nov 8th njc Yay! http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-31-2005/0004097021&EDATE= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:43:54 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Orleans update, njc LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > His term too shall pass, though > not quickly enough. Now there's a truly cheerful thought! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:50:52 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family njc Les, as usual, you are one class act. Donating is easy if you have a Paypal acct, a couple of clicks and you are done. Any amount helps. Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles - > > One of the great things about this community is the way people have always come together and helped in times of need. > > As many of you know, Michael Paz and his family are now in Houston, refugees from their home in New Orleans. A timetable for their return is at least weeks away, possibly months. Their income will no doubt be compromised considerably during this time. > > All donations made through the JMDL site will, until further notice, go directly to Michael and his family. I urge you to consider helping them with a donation - the process is quick and simple. You'll find a link at http://jmdl.com. > > Michael has always been one of the first to help others in this community. Let's return his kindness in his own family's time of need. > > Thanks, > Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) NJC Thanks Ron, that was fun - didn't realize that speed mattered until the third one. I scored 90% with 1,601 points. Bob NP: Chuck Prophet, "Pin A Rose On Me" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:59:38 -0400 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family njc >Donating is easy if you have a Paypal acct, a couple of clicks >and you are done. Any amount helps. And even if you DON'T have a PayPal account, you can donate this way with a credit or debit card. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:03:07 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: new orleans upsdate, njc Paz wrote: >Where the fuck is our leader? How can he have a 5 week vacation while >people are dying In Iraq and whereis the great leadership in regards to the >Gulf Coast?? you got a good point there Paz. My Aunt Carol and my cousins are in New Orleans. . . They are all alive. . . but I don't think we have any real idea of how it is, even tho we see it on the news./ This person is far from "a leader" on many fronts _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:04:51 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: PBS: Best news coverage of Katrina? njc Here is a quick note to those in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific Time zones. "The MacNeil/Leher Report" on PBS had some relatively intelligent coverage tonight on New Orleans' levy system. On the networks, you'll likely find the usual sensationalism, like endless footage of looting. It's your choice. Jim Covington, KY, US in the Eastern Time zone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family njc Amen & Amen...everyone who has met Michael knows that he has given more to this community than we can ever repay - but let's give it our best shot. Another reason why ours is the best Internet community on the planet. Thanks Les. Bob NP: Michelle Shocked, "Too Little, Too Late" (probably not the right NP for the scenario but hell that's what's playing...) Randy Remote wrote: Les, as usual, you are one class act. Donating is easy if you have a Paypal acct, a couple of clicks and you are done. Any amount helps. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Kate Bush double album to be released Nov 8th njc Wow. It's about time, eh? - --- Doug wrote: > Yay! > > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-31-2005/0004097021&EDATE= > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: some light relief (joni content if you choose) NJC wow, I can't get it to load completely! :( I want to play! oh well. Any other Mac OS 10.2.8 users have a prob? and I have broadband...hmm I wonder what the prob is.... Em - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Thanks Ron, that was fun - didn't realize that speed mattered until > the third one. I scored 90% with 1,601 points. > > Bob > > NP: Chuck Prophet, "Pin A Rose On Me" > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:58:37 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni as a baby How cute some of those pictures are. . and how sweet we are discussing Joni as a child >Bob Muller wrote: >http://www.jonimitchell.com/ChildhoodDays.html >Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. >Bob >Nuriel Tobias wrote: >Could anyone kind direct me to a photo of Joni as a baby, if something like >that exsists. >p.s. I wonder what kind of baby was Joan. Do you think she was crying a lot >during the night?:) >From: "Les Irvin" >Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby >Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. >Here's another: >http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:03:51 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Michael Paz and family njc I've donated with a promise of more if need be. Hope you all will consider doing the same. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:06 PM To: Randy Remote; Les Irvin; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Michael Paz and family njc Amen & Amen...everyone who has met Michael knows that he has given more to this community than we can ever repay - but let's give it our best shot. Another reason why ours is the best Internet community on the planet. Thanks Les. Bob NP: Michelle Shocked, "Too Little, Too Late" (probably not the right NP for the scenario but hell that's what's playing...) Randy Remote wrote: Les, as usual, you are one class act. Donating is easy if you have a Paypal acct, a couple of clicks and you are done. Any amount helps. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:04:26 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) Hi Nuri and Em and all, I remember hearing Joni say once that she feels that she was a man in every life before this one. . that this was the first time she was a woman. . somhow this thought feels linked here. Marianne >From: Em >Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) >well, I guess a woman who sees guitar strings in the sky can imagine >any old other thing she fancies too...maybe she'd want to be a gay >cowboy or gay black man..that way she could still have her "cake" and >eat it too! _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:35:44 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Michael Paz and family njc Richard wrote: > I've donated with a promise of more if need be. > Hope you all will consider doing the same. I'm encouraged by the donations I'm seeing already. Please, everyone, if you can spare anything for our good friend Paz and his family I ask that you visit the link at http://jmdl.com and contribute. You do not need anything other than a credit or debit card to help. Funds are going directly to Michael and his family to help them in their time of urgent need. Many thanks to those who have contributed and thanks in advance to those who will. Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:52:19 +0200 From: JoniPD Subject: back home again LONG (vljc) Hi, dears!!! We're just arrived home a couple of hours ago, after been driving, driving, driving all day long... and I've got the urge for writing to you, at last, about the Jonifest! (I've only spent half a hour last week in the CyberCafe at Penyiscola reading your posts) ...but first I've checked the news about Paz's family and their refuge in Houston: oh! I'm with you. but... back to The Garden... let me tell you: I've not only had a Wonderful time, indeed: I've had The Time of my Life, too! Of course it has been said many times that meeting friends from this Blessed list you've got the strong feeling that, instead of meeting unknown people, you meet real friends: people you already know. For me it's the same: I was sure that people from the JMDL are the coolest people (the most wonderful, if you know what I mean) in the planet, but now I'm sure: this JoniFest 'twas like finding again people that were friends and you've lost touch with them because of the distance, etc. I'm going to be nasty and put in words, in first place, the things I didn't enjoy: Being away from my family for so many days; now you know me how much sentimental I am... Marga and I have spent the night apart for some 11 times before this (since we've met in 1988), but only for a single night in each case. It was harder than I'd suppose. The awful bed in my bungalow: I haven't slept in a bed so bad since I was twentysomething... and this was many many years ago! My poor neck is still resented from that (I've got a date tomorrow with my favourite massagist) but I'm happy for sleeping in such a enchanting place... and not driving at night through these mountain roads, too! The meals. They were... erratic, I'd say. That was not of much importance for me, but for the youngest people I fear that meals were somewhat frustrating. It's with a lot of relief that I read Katherine and Lucy's posts telling us that Sarah and Lizzie, Matthew and Sam did really enjoyed Jonifest! What more could I say about the site that you hadn't said? Well, it's just a magic place to stay in... if you don't mind much about the hygienic facilities. I guess I'm the only one who did get a warm shower (and a cold one too) in that "artistic" open air one. The majority of us did prefer to refresh (and slightly clean up) in that pond now famous from the swimning beauties... I really enjoyed the lazy and long breakfasts in the table under the trees... the night strolling under the stars and/or moon... the concert place lying in the "esterillas"... For the performances... Many of the people I'd already knew it from previous recordings (that's not the same) and many were a real good surprise. Of course the higlight for me (one of the milestones of my life) was Claudia singing David Olney's Women Across the River: this was already a very loved song, but incredibly good Claudia's rendition did arouse my heart to another level: one of these Faustian moments (you know: "Time, stand still, you're so beautiful!") when you know life's worthwhile. Of course each and everyone of Claudia's songs are Wonderful (she did started the 2nd night performances setting so hig the level... and sang in the last night, too)!!! Stryngs... I guess we couldn't thank enough them for going to the Jonifest: I feel So Proud of them! Their original songs really get the chills to my spine one more time (and more and more) specially Frank's Song. Strings rendition of Cactus Tree was another of the real highlights for me in that blessed weekend. Chris and Martin's Sailing to Philadelphia... well, they really made it better than the original... and that's saying a lot. Mention apart for the amazing Les: he didn't repeat his worldwide famous Magdalene Laundries, but That Song About the Midway, Woodstock... so much beauty! Anita: you're a First Class performer, and so generous to do all these Joni's !!! I'm still in awe for that Black Crow, Chinese Cafe, River, Refuge of the Roads, that I Think I Understand as a waving goodbye... and of course your singing so wild and free from the Circle in the first noon: I'll never forget that... Beauty! Catherine: many thanks for your Shadows and Light!!! it was an amazingly good solo performance of this "sacred" song! (another of the highlights, truly) Besides, Electricity and Cold Blue Steel... were such a joy to listen them from you. Jamie: we always enjoy your *much Joni* posts... but not so much as we enjoyed your sweeeeetest songs. Many Many Thanks for that Magdalene Laundries and Night Ride Home, in special. Laurent proved us that not only he's very generous to settle down the details for this Jonifest but he's a Real Guitar Player, too! It's a pity we didn't know by heart the lyrics to the John Hiatt's songs you played... and we really enjoyed that EL&P's From the Beginning medley, too! Special mention to the rendition of Yesterday and, most of all, Blackbird by your *beautiful* daughter!!! Thierry: your Joni covers are so Great! I really enjoyed the Harry's House and Refuge of the Roads ones: Many Thanks! I really wasn't prepared to Queen Lulu: dear, please, your first night playing of Lord Franklin and Plaisir d'Amour were so... I've still got tears of joy in my face for that. Your last night Sweet Michael was a real good one, too (I dedicated myself to Mr. Paz who was so deeply missed in this Jonifest...) Last but not least, the surprise of the Fest: Randall, who has the most impressive stage appearance, the most writing skills (that Lines song was a Number One)... and a A Case of You that simply blew us away! And who is the Original, the unimitable, the unreachable American fester? Bob, of course: your singing skills and friendly support in the performances would be gratefully remembered in years and years to come. That blues improv "I'm an American in Europe" was the perfect counterpoint to all these moving moments... and a real treat, indeed! As for the people: Many Thanks to all of you for being there... and being as You are! I must confess sometimes didn't understand much of what was being said around me, but I really enjoyed being with all of you. Many thanks for being so patient with me (having to repeat so many words I didn't caught them, and being so receptive to my lousy accent and syntax...). Specialthanks to Mike for his translation work... and Bob, whose Spanish was better than you would expect. I've already told how much I'm impressed by Claudia (in fact Marga did get a little jealous about that...) you're a true Gift in this world for all of us. The most loving person I've ever knew. John: I could spend each and every moment of my life listening to you: your friendly, relaxed and witty talking is a real treasure. Lieve... you're the most beautiful person in the world. Seeing you smiling, walking, talking and listening to your ever interesting point of views are moments enough to arise a deep Stendhal's syndrome in this spanish man... yours for life. That drives around the Cathares country make me long very strongly for More and more precious talks with you! My favourite driver Ever!!! Bob: the world is certainly a better place when you're around. !Mi Amigo! Catherine! I felt too shy to talk with young people... specially when they're sooooo sweet as the McKays! I'm not accoustumed too, you know... You're of the most tender people I've ever knew. It's a pity you retired so early in the night... even before performances get to their nightly endings... Adriano and Lita: so friendly, so warm... It's a pity I didn't managed to stay more with you... I'm up for an italian Jonifest, sicuro! Strings: You're someone to be with, dear! Your infectious happiness of life... Les: I'd already was sure that I would meet a very special person, but you're too faboulous for words... just call me if you decide some day to visit Asturias (BTW, we could convince Em too!) Chris... a heart as big... and such elegance, too! Martin... you're the Sound Man! Mike, the Guide: your wit, inteligence and humour really made my days. Thanks for everything. Your Barcelona is the best... and Isa la Reina! Garrett: I must admit that I had a hard time understanding your fast English... but I really enjoyed your joyful vitality! Thanks for being so nice... and for leting me your bed, too. Anita... you're the warmest Lady I've known. Love You Steph: Love You too, you're so friendly, so dear. Guy: it was such a pleasure talking with you! Why did you get to leave so early last night, eh?! Thierry... more than a friend... you're like my brother lost at birth... but with more Poetry on! And what could I say about the Queen herself? I must admit that having breakfast (and evry dinner I could) with the Royal family of Lucy, Frank, Sam and Lizzie was one of the better moments for me: your've got a gifted sympathy! Ashara and Eric... I've guessed we didn't talk so much... but I've got a Hug from Mama Lion! Jamie! We're friends now: I'm so happy! and Laurent: Many thanks for settling so kindly the First French JoniFest! well, I've got to go to bed, now: I'm so happy for having put a little part of the exclamations marks I've kept with me these two weeks! and of course we missed You! there Besos para todos: Emiliano NP: Gillian Welch: 455 Rocket ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #332 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)