From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #331 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 31 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 331 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Orleans Update [Randy Remote ] Re: I love the VMAs njc [Lori Fye ] RE: New Orleans Update ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: its not the music, its you (and me) njc [Lori Fye ] Re: New Orleans Update - njc [Lori Fye ] Re: njc Oh my God! vmas do suck! [Lori Fye ] Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! [Lori Fye ] katrina njc ["gene mock" ] Re: I love the VMAs njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: katrina njc [Lori Fye ] Re: New Orleans Update [Randy Remote ] RE: New Orleans Update ["Richard Flynn" ] Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2005 [njc] [] New Orleans Update ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:18:28 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Been thinking about you alot- at least you are okay, and still part of our family. Of course we have all seen the news and know what a horrendous mess this is, and feel for you. This too shall pass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:39:16 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: I love the VMAs njc Catherine wrote: > It seems that they feel they can be fans of either rap OR rock, but not both Didn't we go through that same thing during the 70s, when you could like disco, or you could like rock, but not both? Personally, I danced to all the disco I could find and then went home and listened to Led Zeppelin at a very loud volume. I try to be open minded about music. However, even though I lived in Texas for 12 years, country, or country/western, gets on my nerves after a very short while. Now I work in downtown Washington DC, and, generally speaking, rap makes me want to shoot somebody -- usually the drivers of the cars with the subwoofers that are maxed out to the point the damn body of the car is vibrating. To me, it's just noise. But that's just my opinion. Joining Em and the other cucarachas ... Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:50:41 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: New Orleans Update Randy wrote: This too shall pass. I write: Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall pass. Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:51:41 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: its not the music, its you (and me) njc Vince wrote: > I also love opera and whether it be bel canto or verisimo or whatever, I hear wonderul diversity in opera. THERE's the connection! I can't stand opera any more than I like rap! Opera all sounds the same to me, and I want to shoot people who play opera too loudly, too. ; ) Just kidding. Sort of. Randy wrote: > While I'm not very educated in the genre, I understand that at one time > the roots of rap were more along these lines, instead of the machismo > and often misogynistic garbage that tells kids it's okay to think of gays > as fags and females as hos and sex objects. That's my complaint, as well. For me, rap is not (as Vince termed it) "the songs of life." The messages, at least the ones I overhear coming from the cars in my area, tend to foment hatred and disrespect, which is not the kind of life I want to live or promote. Give me a Stevie Wonder protest song anyday. Please. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:58:54 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: New Orleans Update - njc Michael and everyone else affected by Powerful Katrina: My thoughts and prayers are with you. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:57:32 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: njc Oh my God! vmas do suck! Vince wrote: > how the terminally old hate when the young kids have fun. I have a lot of gray hair now, but, at 47, I don't think of myself as terminally old and I love it when the young kids have fun. I'm not sure why "fun" means blasting their music into my and everyone else's eardrums, but hey, who am I to feel I have a right to peace and silence? Lori, who never watches ANY of the awards shows because I can't stand the recording industry telling me who I should like and whose music I should buy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:01:15 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! Great stuff, Les! Thanks for posting it, and thanks also for creating the JMDL, through which I have made so many great friends over the last nearly 8 years. Lori, member since fall of 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:50:09 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: katrina njc watching the weather channel and national news----------------devastation. i can't help but wonder, we sure could use the $200 billion, manpower, and expertise we have in iraq now. we have to take care of our own---no one else can significantly help us. we have a great country, but very climatically sensitive. earthquakes to the west, hurricanes to the east, tornadoes in the middle, and harsh winters to the north. we should have been better prepared, we should be better prepared for the next climate event. all the people, their lives, the pets, the animals----very sad. tears in my eyes, gene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I love the VMAs njc - --- Lori Fye wrote: > Catherine wrote: > > > It seems that they feel they can be fans of either > rap OR rock, but not > both > > Didn't we go through that same thing during the 70s, > when you could like > disco, or you could like rock, but not both? > > Personally, I danced to all the disco I could find > and then went home and > listened to Led Zeppelin at a very loud volume. > > I try to be open minded about music. However, even > though I lived in Texas > for 12 years, country, or country/western, gets on > my nerves after a very > short while. Now I work in downtown Washington DC, > and, generally speaking, > rap makes me want to shoot somebody -- usually the > drivers of the cars with > the subwoofers that are maxed out to the point the > damn body of the car is > vibrating. > > To me, it's just noise. But that's just my opinion. > > Joining Em and the other cucarachas ... > Lori La cucaracha, la cucaracha Ya no puede caminar Porque no tiene, porque le falta Marijuana que fumar. I never realized there was marijuana in that song until I checked to find the words after the first two lines. Live and learn. It's about a cockroach that likes getting stoned. We all have different tastes in music. I do remember the "disco sucks" people, but it was fun dancing to that crap anyway! I still have my Saturday Night Live LP in the basement, a-mouldering. I remember an incident with some friends who used to be married to one another, where she wanted to play dance music at their party, and he got all pissed off about her playing that "crap." Is it any wonder the marriage fell apart? I never cared much for country either, although I don't mind some of it - but that would be the alt-country stuff, or the crossover stuff that isn't quite country. Country music sounds better if you've had a few and you're feeling kinda melancholy and hard-done-by. I don't like any kind of music played so loud in cars (or anywhere else) that it shakes everything on the street and you can hear "ba Boom boom ba!" six blocks away. I wouldn't impose my musical taste on the public at large and I kind of hope they'd do me the same favour. But some people are oblivious, and they like to hog the sidewalk, and other people like to put their taste in music, cars, whatever, right in your face as if to say, "Whaddya gonna do aboudit?" I often yell, "Why don't you play it louder? They can't hear you in the next town?" and it embarasses my kids, but it doesn't matter because the offending parties don't hear me anyway. Because they're playing their music too loud. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:26:02 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: katrina njc Gene wrote: > we have a great country, but very climatically sensitive. earthquakes to the > west, hurricanes to the east, tornadoes in the middle, and harsh winters to > the north. Given all of that, I'll take the north. At least it's just snow and wind, and besides, North Dakota is SO close to Canada ... and Canada is looking better to me everyday. Sad too, for those who have lost so much, Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:03:07 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Sure not trying to minimize the pain, or tell anyone to get over it. I traveled to Kauai a year or so after Hurricane Iniki leveled the island. By then most of the damaged had been repaired, but every once in a while you'd drive by a mountain of refrigerators, or another big pile of stoves to remind you what happened. Gene's point was a valid one. Many of LA's national guard and helicopters were sent to Iraq, not to mention all that $. I heard someone on Democracy Now today saying that the flooding is worse because much of the bayou, which acted as a sort of buffer has been cut into channels for ship lanes for the refineries. Another big problem, on top of everything else, is the toxic soup that is being carried everywhere with the floodwaters. Richard Flynn wrote: > Randy wrote: > This too shall pass. > > I write: > Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and > frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in > Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are > boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall > pass. > > Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:13:59 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: New Orleans Update Randy, Don't misunderstand me. I appreciate your wise counsel. I am just worried about all the friends I have down there--Paz, who I only know virtually, but others--longtime friends I haven't been able to get in touch with. And I am just heartsick. So please know I meant no criticism of you. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: Randy Remote [mailto:guitarzan@direcpc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:03 AM To: Richard Flynn; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Sure not trying to minimize the pain, or tell anyone to get over it. I traveled to Kauai a year or so after Hurricane Iniki leveled the island. By then most of the damaged had been repaired, but every once in a while you'd drive by a mountain of refrigerators, or another big pile of stoves to remind you what happened. Gene's point was a valid one. Many of LA's national guard and helicopters were sent to Iraq, not to mention all that $. I heard someone on Democracy Now today saying that the flooding is worse because much of the bayou, which acted as a sort of buffer has been cut into channels for ship lanes for the refineries. Another big problem, on top of everything else, is the toxic soup that is being carried everywhere with the floodwaters. Richard Flynn wrote: > Randy wrote: > This too shall pass. > > I write: > Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and > frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in > Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are > boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall > pass. > > Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:08:53 -0700 From: Subject: Hardly Strictly Bluegrass 2005 [njc] October 1st and 2nd , 2005 Golden Gate Park, San Francisco -- Free! http://www.strictlybluegrass.com/ * Here is the artist list for the 2005 Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival. * A.J. Roach Alison Brown Ana Egge Austin Lounge Lizards Bill Evans String Summit Buddy Miller Chip Taylor & Carrie Rodriguez Dale Ann Bradley & Coon Creek Dave Alvin David Jacobs-Strain Deborah Pardes Del McCoury Band Doc Watson with David Holt & Richard Watson Dolly Parton Druha Trava Dry Branch Fire Squad Earl Scruggs Eliza Gilkyson Emmylou Harris Gillian Welch Guy Clark Hazel Dickens Hot Buttered Rum String Band Hot Rize Hud featuring Javier Matos J.D. Crowe & The New South Jim Lauderdale with his Bluegrass Band Jimbo Trout and the Fish People Jimmie Dale Gilmore Joan Baez Kelly Joe Phelps Kevin Welch & Kieran Kane & Fats Kaplin Laura Cantrell Laurie Lewis & Tom Rozum & The Guest House Band Los Super Seven feat. Calexico, Joe Ely, Raul Malo, Ruben Ramos, Rick Trevino & The West Side Horns Michael Fracasso Patty Griffin Paul Thorn Peasall Sisters Perfect Strangers Peter Rowan & Tony Rice Quartet Poor Man's Whiskey Ralph Stanley & His Clinch Mountain Boys Rhonda Vincent & The Rage Ricky Skaggs & Kentucky Thunder Robert Earl Keen Rodney Crowell & The Outsiders Rosanne Cash Rykarda Parasol Shawn Camp South Austin Jug Band Split Lip Rayfield Steve Earle & The Bluegrass Dukes Stiff Dead Cat Th' Legendary Shack*Shakers The Be Good Tanyas The Greencards The Knitters The Waybacks w/ Darol Anger Tim Bluhm & Greg Loiacono Tim O'Brien Todd Snider Toshio Hirano Wake the Dead Willow Willow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:57:24 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: New Orleans Update I am crying over this tragedy . this beautiful one of a kind city ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #331 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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