From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #329 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 30 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 329 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc hurricane [Catherine McKay ] Gigs in MA, USA (njc) [Patti Witten ] Re: They're trying to wash us away again (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Jonifest Pictures (NJC) [rosemjoy@aol.com] New book on Joni ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] off the map, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] njc, Ashara ["Marianne Rizzo" ] new Joni book [mags h ] Re Spanish-type peepuls NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: off the map, and job-related stress, or life's stress in general, njc [Catherine McKay ] off the map, and job-related stress, or life's stress in general, njc ["M] RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Neil Young as Joni's archivist [Randy Remote ] Re: New Orleans, LA njc [Jerry Notaro ] (NJC) Bob Dylan on PBS - Sep 26 & 27 [Lori Fye ] Re: New Orleans, LA njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: New Orleans, LA njc [Lori Fye ] Annual VMA slagging njc [Randy Remote ] RE: New Orleans, LA njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Annual VMA slagging njc [Em ] (NJC) AIDS Marathon [Lori Fye ] Re: Annual VMA slagging njc [Catherine McKay ] Happy Birthday JMDL! ["Les Irvin" ] RE: New Orleans, LA njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Annual VMA slagging njc ["Mark Scott" ] RE: New Orleans, LA njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! [Em ] Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! [FMYFL@aol.com] checking in [Peep Richman ] Re: Annual VMA slagging njc [Em ] Re: Annual VMA slagging njc [Bob Muller ] RE: Happy Birthday JMDL! ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! [Catherine McKay ] Little Boxes RE: Happy Birthday JMDL! NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc hurricane - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > Adding my prayers to Paz & New Orleans... Jeff just > heard a prediction that > said 90% of the buildings could go... I pray they > are terribly wrong > I was wondering how the poor who have no cars and so on would be able to get out, and then picked up the morning paper from the front porch. There was a front-page photo about this very thing. They're going to put them all in the Super Dome. I hope this is at least on higher ground, and I realize that that's a relative term down there, but I hope at least it's quite a ways inland. Ultimately, despite advances in science and technology, we are all, at one time or another, at the mercy of Mother Nature. Sending up my prayers for the good people of NO, LA and other area's in the path of the storm. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:14:13 -0400 From: Patti Witten Subject: Gigs in MA, USA (njc) I'm doing a couple gigs in Mass (that's USA :) this week. If any jmdlers are in the neighborhood I'd love to say hi. E me if want details, or visit my website. Cheers! Patti - -- Patti Witten on I-Town Records www.itownrecords.com MySpace http://myspace.com/pattiwitten http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:22:14 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: They're trying to wash us away again (NJC) We got pelted by the outer bands here in St. Petersburg. Jerry > Hey Mikey, > > Katrina is a weird hurricane, but it does look like it's headed your way. We > had some of our shutters up yesterday, but it headed so much west into the > gulf so all we had was a little rain. I'm sure Em is getting some a little > rain > up in Tampa too. Hope Whirly Pearl and Susan didn't get any damage on the > east coast. > > You and the family be careful on your trek to Houston! > > big ole hugs, > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:05:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: njc hurricane So far things look much better than predicted. Let's keep our hopes up! Jerry > Adding my prayers to Paz & New Orleans... Jeff just heard a prediction that > said 90% of the buildings could go... I pray they are terribly wrong ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:44:44 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest Pictures (NJC) Hi Ashara, Happy belated Birthday wishes. Can you or someone post the link to Chris's picture site. I'm on a machine at work and I no longer have it. Thank you! I can't wait to see them!!!! Rose xxoo - -----Original Message----- From: AsharaJM@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:54:10 EDT Subject: Jonifest Pictures (NJC) I finally uploaded and captioned my Jonifest pictures up at Chris' site. I look forward to seeing everyone else's pics! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:09:50 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: New book on Joni Deb, I hate to see her career summarized like this. It "scans" like she had 3 albums of note. I'd say, "Her folk-oriented debut album, 'Song To A Seagull,' was released in 1968, but she explored several genres over a richly varied career." And another thing. Joni didn't return to the headlines because *Kilauren* "made a public quest to meet her mother". The reason the reunion was news was because *Joni* is a celebrity. I hope these 2 glaring misconceptions were written by the publisher, Taylor Trade Publishing, rather than the author, Mark Bego. Note to new folks: Brian Hinton's book on Joni isn't nearly as good as "Joni Mitchell: Shadows and Light" by Karen O'Brien. She was smart enough to ask for help from members of JMDL. My copy is the 2nd edition, which means the book has found a profitable market. Jim >Mitchell's debut album was released in 1968, followed up by the immensely popular "Clouds" in 1969 and "Ladies of the Canyon" in 1970. Mitchell returned to the headlines in 1996 when a daughter she had given up for adoption began a public quest to meet her mother.> Jim Covington, KY - ---------------------------------- "The only things we own are the moments. Everything else is like a book borrowed from the library: it will all be returned." Karin Berquist of 'Over The Rhine' - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:20:12 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: off the map, njc From: Peep Richman >Just a quick note about a DVD I watched this weekend...called "Off The Map" >with Joan >Allen,Valentina de Angelis and Sam Elliot. >It was one of my all time favorites....hopefully some of you will rent a >copy. Yes Bo, Bree and I just saw that too last week. . It is a simple, inspiring movie about living your own life. . . about voluntary simplicity and m a k i n g t i m e y o u r o w n . . . This movie touched me, especially as I think about returning to another school year with little time and energy left over, many stresses and strains in the work world. Thanks Bo, Love Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:25:57 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc, Ashara Happy Birthday Ashara. . and happy belated Ashara Stanfield day too! AND how poignant, as you appeared in a dream of mine on the 27th -28th. Wishing you the best. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: new Joni book Hi Deb, yes that book has been on the shelves in Canada for a few months now. Perhaps check amazon.ca or chapters/indigo sites. Mags. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:01:00 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re Spanish-type peepuls NJC >Now I want to know one thing - where are Pritchard and Emiliano and their reports on fest?<< I don't know about Emiliano but he's probably back home in Galicia by now as his new school term probably starts on September 1st. As for me I've been 7 days walking in Wales (mountains and beaches) and 2 more doing the distilleries and breweries of Dublin's fair city (Jameson's and Guinness) so I have been away from the PC until this morning. I have enjoyed the other reports, and can't understand how I was stupid enough to miss the skinny dipping incident, as I took photos of practically everything else; photos which I shall be putting up via chris marshall's site tonight or tomorrow. I have eliminated anything I thought uncomplimentary but that's my personal taste. I will upload them soon and if anyone objects (unlikely, I think) they should get in touch with chris and ask him to remove them. On the other hand, if anyone would like a copy of any of my shots, please ask and I'll send you a copy. They weigh aprox 2.5 MB. mike in bcn np- Dr Feelgood Shotgun Blues NPIMH: Randall - The Line (Curious to see him with hair in Jamie's pic; He was shaved when I arrived and in all my pics) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:09:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: off the map, and job-related stress, or life's stress in general, njc - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > From: Peep Richman > > >Just a quick note about a DVD I watched this > weekend...called "Off The Map" > >with Joan >Allen,Valentina de Angelis and Sam > Elliot. > >It was one of my all time favorites....hopefully > some of you will rent a > >copy. > > > Yes Bo, > > Bree and I just saw that too last week. . > > It is a simple, inspiring movie about living your > own life. . . > about voluntary simplicity and > > m a k i n g t i m e y o u r o w n . > . . > > This movie touched me, especially as I think about > returning to another > school year with little time and energy left over, > many stresses and strains > in the work world. > > Thanks Bo, > > Love Marianne > > Marianne, is it the time of year or maybe it's the time of man? Honestly, I find it harder and harder to go to work. After having come back from three weeks' vacation, with two of these in France, I was truly dreading being back at work. I can only imagine how much more difficult it must be going back to teaching after having the entire summer off. While I was in France, I felt NO STRESS driving there, except for driving through the mountains late at night. But even then, i reminded myself that it wasn't necessary to go fast, because there are so few cars on the road and because you can always let the faster ones pass you, since there are always places where this can be done (not on the edge of a cliff, though). Maybe if I had had a crappy rental car, it would have been different, but I lucked into having a Mercedes Benz that drove like a dream. The minute I got back to Toronto, stress was beginning to build again. It seems that, in most parts of the world, if there are two or more lanes on a highway, people stick to the one on the right (curbside), unless they want to pass, in which case they move to the left, pass, then come back into the right. Not in Canada. People stay in that left lane and don't move from there. So then you get people trying to pass from the right and so on. I thought this may be a uniquely Toronto or southern Ontario thing, but my brother, who lives in Alberta, confirms they do the same thing there. Be warned, if you come to Canada. People don't give a shit about that stuff. It's all about being number one. And then, there's the smog which has been worse this year than ever, combined with really high heat and humidity. We've sometimes had a week or two at a time with that kind of weather every summer, followed by at least a few days of cooler, dryer weather, but this entire summer, up until a week or two ago has been horrible. So, yeah, it's stressful and I ask myself why and wonder whether or not it's possible to just zen out and not give a shit about getting anywhere quickly. But there are so many cars on the road and so many places that need to be gotten to and I live fairly far from where I work and sometimes it seems to take forever to get home, although it's generally less than an hour (15-20 minutes if you do this early in the a.m. or late at night though.) And school is starting next week. Matthew starts high school this year and is very stressed and obsessed about it and that's not making things any easier. Good luck to you on starting back and take it easy that first week! I'm sure it must be so hard. Life seems far too complicated and I wonder how much of it is our simply not allowing ourselves not to take things too seriously. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:16:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Re Spanish-type peepuls NJC - --- mike pritchard wrote: > NPIMH: Randall - The Line (Curious to see him with > hair in Jamie's pic; He was shaved when I arrived > and in all my pics) > He did have hair when he first arrived (and it was good hair, too). You missed Strings shaving his head. I hope someone took pictures in the middle because at one point, he looked like Bozo the Clown with baldness in the middle and tufts on each side. Anything and everything happens at Jonifest, as you know now. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:18:44 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: off the map, and job-related stress, or life's stress in general, njc I think you said just what I need to be reminded of >not allowing ourselves not to take >things too seriously. I have to remember this. Thansk Catherine XOXO - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > From: Peep Richman > > >Just a quick note about a DVD I watched this > weekend...called "Off The Map" > >with Joan >Allen,Valentina de Angelis and Sam > Elliot. > >It was one of my all time favorites....hopefully > some of you will rent a > >copy. > > > Yes Bo, > > Bree and I just saw that too last week. . > > It is a simple, inspiring movie about living your > own life. . . > about voluntary simplicity and > > m a k i n g t i m e y o u r o w n . > . . > > This movie touched me, especially as I think about > returning to another > school year with little time and energy left over, > many stresses and strains > in the work world. > > Thanks Bo, > > Love Marianne > > Marianne, is it the time of year or maybe it's the time of man? Honestly, I find it harder and harder to go to work. After having come back from three weeks' vacation, with two of these in France, I was truly dreading being back at work. I can only imagine how much more difficult it must be going back to teaching after having the entire summer off. While I was in France, I felt NO STRESS driving there, except for driving through the mountains late at night. But even then, i reminded myself that it wasn't necessary to go fast, because there are so few cars on the road and because you can always let the faster ones pass you, since there are always places where this can be done (not on the edge of a cliff, though). Maybe if I had had a crappy rental car, it would have been different, but I lucked into having a Mercedes Benz that drove like a dream. The minute I got back to Toronto, stress was beginning to build again. It seems that, in most parts of the world, if there are two or more lanes on a highway, people stick to the one on the right (curbside), unless they want to pass, in which case they move to the left, pass, then come back into the right. Not in Canada. People stay in that left lane and don't move from there. So then you get people trying to pass from the right and so on. I thought this may be a uniquely Toronto or southern Ontario thing, but my brother, who lives in Alberta, confirms they do the same thing there. Be warned, if you come to Canada. People don't give a shit about that stuff. It's all about being number one. And then, there's the smog which has been worse this year than ever, combined with really high heat and humidity. We've sometimes had a week or two at a time with that kind of weather every summer, followed by at least a few days of cooler, dryer weather, but this entire summer, up until a week or two ago has been horrible. So, yeah, it's stressful and I ask myself why and wonder whether or not it's possible to just zen out and not give a shit about getting anywhere quickly. But there are so many cars on the road and so many places that need to be gotten to and I live fairly far from where I work and sometimes it seems to take forever to get home, although it's generally less than an hour (15-20 minutes if you do this early in the a.m. or late at night though.) And school is starting next week. Matthew starts high school this year and is very stressed and obsessed about it and that's not making things any easier. Good luck to you on starting back and take it easy that first week! I'm sure it must be so hard. Life seems far too complicated and I wonder how much of it is our simply not allowing ourselves not to take things too seriously. Catherine Toronto _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:01:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) Lesson for the day- go reread the lyrics to 'when I was a boy' by dar Williams :~} Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Em, come on, from being a cowboy to wishing she was a black man, i > mean, i know she likes men a bit (lol), but realy... > Nuri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:04:48 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: New Orleans, LA njc I'm glad Hurricane Katrina took a jog to the east overnight. It looks like Nawlins will not take the northeast quadrant, where the worst of the worst is. Paz, I hope Beth and Jack got away safely too. I'm hoping your newly remodeled Casa de Paz is intact. I guess we won't know till Wednesday. That's also when we expect to have lots of the rain and what's left of the high winds, here in Northern Kentucky / Southwestern Ohio / Southeastern Indiana. After New Orleans, I guess Cindy and Giselle in Birmingham are the next JMDLers in the path of Katrina. God's speed to everyone. Jim Covington, KY PS, As if the hurricane wasn't bad enough, there's a railroad tanker leaking styrene in Cincinnati. The chemical which keeps it safe for 4 months, had an expiration date that passed several months ago. - ---------------------------------- "The only things we own are the moments. Everything else is like a book borrowed from the library: it will all be returned." Karin Berquist of 'Over The Rhine' - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:19:52 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Neil Young as Joni's archivist Veeerry Eeenteresting, as Arte Johnson used to say. So if the album is unreleased, how did you hear the song?? "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > Hmm. Neil Young has a new album, to be released next month called "Prairie > Wind". The first song is called "Painter". I don't have the lyrics (and > you all KNOW how bad my memory is) but... > > The painter is a woman and Neil says something like > > "she picks her colors > from the air." > > She sounds very familiar, eh gang? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:43:15 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: New Orleans, LA njc And to celebrate New Orleans being spared we are all going to head to Pazfest II for Labor Day Weekend!!!! > I'm glad Hurricane Katrina took a jog to the east overnight. It looks like > Nawlins will not take the northeast quadrant, where the worst of the worst > is. Paz, I hope Beth and Jack got away safely too. > > I'm hoping your newly remodeled Casa de Paz is intact. I guess we won't > know till Wednesday. That's also when we expect to have lots of the rain > and what's left of the high winds, here in Northern Kentucky / Southwestern > Ohio / Southeastern Indiana. > > After New Orleans, I guess Cindy and Giselle in Birmingham are the next > JMDLers in the path of Katrina. God's speed to everyone. > > Jim > Covington, KY > PS, As if the hurricane wasn't bad enough, there's a railroad tanker leaking > styrene in Cincinnati. The chemical which keeps it safe for 4 months, had > an expiration date that passed several months ago. > > ---------------------------------- > "The only things we own are the moments. Everything else is like a book > borrowed from the library: it will all be returned." > Karin Berquist of 'Over The Rhine' > ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:35:57 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Bob Dylan on PBS - Sep 26 & 27 I'm behind the times, this may have already been mentioned here but in case it hasn't been, mark your calendar: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/dylan/index.html Lori, sending protective vibes to those in New Orleans, Biloxi, and elsewhere ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:11:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Orleans, LA njc - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > PS, As if the hurricane wasn't bad enough, there's a > railroad tanker leaking > styrene in Cincinnati. The chemical which keeps it > safe for 4 months, had > an expiration date that passed several months ago. > Hmm. I hope someone's ass is fired for that. And they can can the other body parts while they're at it. Did you know that the pollution from the Ohio Valley is apparently responsible for the crappy air here in Toronto? Boo! Hiss! Who needs clean air? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:25:20 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: New Orleans, LA njc > Did you know that the pollution from the Ohio Valley > is apparently responsible for the crappy air here in > Toronto? Boo! Hiss! Who needs clean air? Boo! Hiss! Who needs Ohio? ; ) Lori, who grew up there ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:54:01 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Annual VMA slagging njc Watched the MTV Video Awards last night. For those who are thinking of catching one of their repeat showings (tonight?) I can save you 3 hours. Watch the first 5 minutes, Green Day pounding out "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". That's it. The only good thing on there, period. Most of the show was rap/hip hop of one form or another. I still don't know the difference between the two after all these years. And I don't technically consider it music. It's poetry and drum machines. There, I said it. Music has melody, harmony and other archaic elements. Not a new thought; but enough with the thanking God thing. If She is really that wrapped up in making sure you get an MTV award, She needs to get Her head out of Her ass and start helping the starving and war torn people of the world. There, I said it. 50 Cent: You owe me 49 cents change. He makes Ashley Simpson seem talented. I hope he doesn't kill me. It's sad that the black cultural icons seem to be obsessed with how many diamonds they can flash. Their brothers back in Africa are toiling in dismal poverty for their bling. Add to the list of Sold Out and No Longer Worthy of Consideration as Relevant: Sean Combs aka Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs aka Puffy aka P.Diddy aka Diddy aka P.whogivesacrap for the Diet Pepsi Commercial during the first break (he was host of the vma's) Snoop Dawg for doing a Chrysler commercial wherein he plays golf with Lee Iacoca. You are not street. Avenue maybe. Last thought-one could quickly pick a show made up of indie artists that are way better than what they're selling. It's not that there's no good music, Joan. It's just that there's (largely) no good music in the mainstream. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:14:11 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: New Orleans, LA njc I believe that the coal fired electric plants in Ohio are fouling the air up there. I guess everyone knows that coal is a dirty fuel. What isn't? We don't have enough wind to drive windmills for electricity. A local nuclear powered plant was scrapped (after millions upon millions of dollars on construction) because the right X-rays weren't made; they didn't document that it was safely built! I think we'll be building coal-fired plants until all of the coal under the Appalachian range has been burned, which will happen long after your children's children are memories. I guess I can apologize for my country polluting so much and simultaneously obstructing the world wide effort to reduce greenhouse gases. See? I'm not quite as "hair-shirt" as my rep. Jim Covington, KY > From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] > Did you know that the pollution from the Ohio Valley > is apparently responsible for the crappy air here in > Toronto? Boo! Hiss! Who needs clean air? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Annual VMA slagging njc RANDY REMOTE NEVER LIES! ;) you gooooo! Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Watched the MTV Video Awards last night. For those who are > thinking of catching one of their repeat showings (tonight?) I can > save you 3 hours. Watch the first 5 minutes, Green Day pounding > out "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". That's it. The only good thing > on there, period. > Most of the show was rap/hip hop of one form or another. I still > don't > know the difference between the two after all these years. And I > don't > technically consider it music. It's poetry and drum machines. There, > I > said it. Music has melody, harmony and other archaic elements. > Not a new thought; but enough with the thanking God thing. If She > is really that wrapped up in making sure you get an MTV award, > She needs to get Her head out of Her ass and start helping the > starving > and war torn people of the world. There, I said it. > 50 Cent: You owe me 49 cents change. He makes Ashley Simpson > seem talented. I hope he doesn't kill me. > It's sad that the black cultural icons seem to be obsessed with how > many diamonds they can flash. Their brothers back in Africa are > toiling in dismal poverty for their bling. > Add to the list of Sold Out and No Longer Worthy of Consideration > as Relevant: > Sean Combs aka Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs aka Puffy aka P.Diddy > aka Diddy aka P.whogivesacrap for the Diet Pepsi Commercial during > the first break (he was host of the vma's) > Snoop Dawg for doing a Chrysler commercial wherein he plays golf > with Lee Iacoca. You are not street. Avenue maybe. > Last thought-one could quickly pick a show made up of indie artists > that are way better than what they're selling. It's not that there's > no > good music, Joan. It's just that there's (largely) no good music in > the > mainstream. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:01:20 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) AIDS Marathon I took a year off and now I'm ready to try it again ... Now that it looks like New Orleans has survived Hurricane Katrina, I just signed up for the AIDS Marathon (http://www.aidsmarathon.com), to be run in the Crescent City on February 5, 2006. I have to raise a minimum of $2,700, most of which benefits the Whitman-Walker Clinic (http://www.wwc.org) in Washington DC. So ... stay tuned for those pesky requests for money! : ) Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Annual VMA slagging njc - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Last thought-one could quickly pick a show made up > of indie artists > that are way better than what they're selling. It's > not that there's no > good music, Joan. It's just that there's (largely) > no good music in the > mainstream. Whoo-hoo! RR! Rock'n'roll! You're my hero. I never watch these shows, but my daughter does. I happened to go down to put some clothes in the dryer and sure enough, someone was thanking god. Yeesh. I had the, "What is UP with everyone thanking God?" discussion with a fellow cynic at work, which devolved into people thanking god for weird things, like making sure THEY got out of an accident alive, but in the meantime, countless people are starving in Africa. Or, conversely, no one ever thanks god for coming in second. I'm all for thanking god for things, quietly, if one happens to believe in god, but somehow, thanking god in front of millions of people just sounds really arrogant (and stupid) to me. Especially if the "songs" they're singing, or the raps they're rapping are all about killing or making it with the hot new flame you've just seen on the dance floor. And so on. I love Green Day. My son is a big fan and I love the irreverance and silliness as they diss GWB and his ilk. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:06:11 -0400 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Happy Birthday JMDL! Joniphiles - First, many thanks to Mother Nature for sparing New Orleans from the worst of the storm. Let's have a clean-up party, Paz! Secondly, Happy 9th Birthday to the JMDL tommorrow! August 30, 1996 saw the JMDL's very first post. In celebration - and quite co-incidentally - I'm pleased to announce the first in what i hope to be a series of exclusive JMDL interviews. The first interviewee is John Uren, the man who started the Depression Coffeehouse in Calgary in September of 1963 and gave a young lady named Joni Anderson her first regularly-paying gig. John talks a lot about the Depression days and gives some interesting insight into the early Joni. Plus, you get to see an early drawing of Joni's from 1964. Many thanks to John, a true gentleman who over the past few months has endured my many edits and changes to the text. Read the interview here: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 Enjoy! Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:06:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: New Orleans, LA njc - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > I believe that the coal fired electric plants in > Ohio are fouling the air up > there. I guess everyone knows that coal is a dirty > fuel. > > What isn't? We don't have enough wind to drive > windmills for electricity. > A local nuclear powered plant was scrapped (after > millions upon millions of > dollars on construction) because the right X-rays > weren't made; they didn't > document that it was safely built! > > I think we'll be building coal-fired plants until > all of the coal under the > Appalachian range has been burned, which will happen > long after your > children's children are memories. > > I guess I can apologize for my country polluting so > much and simultaneously > obstructing the world wide effort to reduce > greenhouse gases. > > See? I'm not quite as "hair-shirt" as my rep. > > Jim > Covington, KY > The US of A isn't the only one dirtying the air. We just closed a coal-powered plant a month or two ago, but there are others still running. And then again, to the east of where I live are the Pickering and Darlington nukular plants. When we were in France, we spotted a windfarm atop a mountain. Apparently the locals don't care much for it, because they think it wrecks the ecology. Maybe it does, but seen from afar, it's kinda purty and I don't think it hurts anything. There has to be enough political will or financial pressure to convince politicans to change the way we do things. They go by the, "If it ain't broke and it puts money in my pocket and it won't run out until after I'm dead, don't fix it" attitude. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:25:29 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Annual VMA slagging njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" > Not a new thought; but enough with the thanking God thing. If She > is really that wrapped up in making sure you get an MTV award, > She needs to get Her head out of Her ass and start helping the starving > and war torn people of the world. LOL!!! Add to that "If She is really that wrapped up in who you had sex with last night (and the sex of and what exactly you did with that person) or how many cigarettes you smoked or how many beers you drank or whether or not you pray in a cathedral, church, mosque or temple or in your living room or in your backyard, She needs to get Her head......etc, etc and so forth. More like the people who actually believe that kind of crap need to get THEIR heads out of THEIR asses, imo. It's not that there's no > good music, Joan. It's just that there's (largely) no good music in the > mainstream. > And I think that's what Joni is referring to when she makes those statements that get quoted out of context. How many people in the vast cultural wasteland of middle America are exposed to indie music or bother to even try and find it? There was a time when you could find decent music on your everyday AM/FM radio stations. Long ago (before Clear Channel) in a galaxy far, far away.... And THAT is what Joni is ragging about, imo. Thanks for the laugh, RR. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:27:53 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: New Orleans, LA njc It's far too early to call but I read that the storm surge in Biloxi was above the critical 20 foot level and in New Orleans it was around 15 feet (5 meters). Here's a strange paradox: CBS showed several people in New Orleans giving thanks that they had a safe (and free) shelter. On the other hand, here in Cincinnati, a few hundred people were evacuated to a shelter because of an explosion hazard posed by a leaking railroad car. The grandma they interviewed (here) was angry at everyone because she suffered inconvenience! "Be thankful for what's left" is the lesson I took from it. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! Les! what a fascinating piece! Not only for the insights into Joni and how she grew, but into that time in history, the early 60's folk thing. So, many thanks to you Les, and as you say, also thanks to John for sharing the glimpse into the crystal. That's priceless stuff. Happy Birthday! Em - --- Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles - > > First, many thanks to Mother Nature for sparing New Orleans from the > worst of the storm. Let's have a clean-up party, Paz! > > Secondly, Happy 9th Birthday to the JMDL tommorrow! August 30, 1996 > saw the JMDL's very first post. > > In celebration - and quite co-incidentally - I'm pleased to announce > the first in what i hope to be a series of exclusive JMDL interviews. > > The first interviewee is John Uren, the man who started the > Depression Coffeehouse in Calgary in September of 1963 and gave a > young lady named Joni Anderson her first regularly-paying gig. John > talks a lot about the Depression days and gives some interesting > insight into the early Joni. Plus, you get to see an early drawing of > Joni's from 1964. > > Many thanks to John, a true gentleman who over the past few months > has endured my many edits and changes to the text. > > Read the interview here: > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 > > Enjoy! > Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:45:58 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! Les writes: > Secondly, Happy 9th Birthday to the JMDL tommorrow! August 30, 1996 saw > the JMDL's very first post. > > In celebration - and quite co-incidentally - I'm pleased to announce the > first in what i hope to be a series of exclusive JMDL interviews. > Happy Birthday JMDL! It's hard to believe I've been here since early 1998, although I mostly lurk these days. Great interview Les. Thank God for John Uren and the photo of Joni is hilarious.....and I thought her high school photo was bad. "A Pete Seeger song called 'Little Boxes' captured the time: 'Ticky tacky little houses all in a row, everybody goes to university, everybody graduates, everybody gets married and lives in these little ticky tacky houses.b" So ironic, I was just singing this song before I read the article. I've never heard it until the new Showtime series "Weeds" premiered a few weeks ago. Funny show, and now I know who wrote it. Thanks for all you do Les! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: checking in Paz, I'm sending you all the best feelings I have so that all people survive this horrid hurricaine. I feel the chills running up and down my entire being as I think about the hurricaine....this ugly war....the trauma and lives utterly destroyed. But then I also have to acknowledge the continual human suffering that is a constant state-of-being on this planet. Has there ever been a world in blissful peace, without starvation, without unspoken angst and misery? Not to my knowledge. Joni is here with us to spread caution, to challenge us to peer into the deepest regions of our soul and to share all that is positive and healing as we are presented with opportunities to comfort others, to help to contribute to the well-being of all, to acknowledge all aspects of suffering as well as to experience tremendous joy. Joni creates an environment that is soothing, funny, ironic.... through all of her creative genius, she loans us an ever-present launching-pad so we have the choice to embrace and respect change. Joni is a spring-board of encouragement, an amazing cushion of comfort when we are threatened to fall into a personal abyss, and she gently insists that we each question our abilities to expand and share all things that are kind. Kindness is powerful. I've decided not to spend one precious moment reading even one word Bego had the nerve to commit to writing. And, when and if Joni shares her autobiography with us, I will cherish her gift. I want aurabright@supanet.com to know how I loved the phrase "faded mists of rememberance and regret". Maybe some of the mist will shelter me. All be well and safe, Love from Bo Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:48:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Annual VMA slagging njc but, a thought re: the "thanking God" thing on awards shows - I seem to recall that coming from Stevie Wonder wayyyyyyyyy back when..and it that point it seemed kind of OK and so very sincere. Anyone remember that too? Em - --- Mark Scott wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Remote" > > Not a new thought; but enough with the thanking God thing. If She > > is really that wrapped up in making sure you get an MTV award, > > She needs to get Her head out of Her ass and start helping the > starving > > and war torn people of the world. > > LOL!!! Add to that "If She is really that wrapped up in who you had > sex > with last night (and the sex of and what exactly you did with that > person) > or how many cigarettes you smoked or how many beers you drank or > whether or > not you pray in a cathedral, church, mosque or temple or in your > living room > or in your backyard, She needs to get Her head......etc, etc and so > forth. > > More like the people who actually believe that kind of crap need to > get > THEIR heads out of THEIR asses, imo. > > It's not that there's no > > good music, Joan. It's just that there's (largely) no good music in > the > > mainstream. > > > > And I think that's what Joni is referring to when she makes those > statements > that get quoted out of context. How many people in the vast cultural > > wasteland of middle America are exposed to indie music or bother to > even try > and find it? There was a time when you could find decent music on > your > everyday AM/FM radio stations. Long ago (before Clear Channel) in a > galaxy > far, far away.... And THAT is what Joni is ragging about, imo. > > Thanks for the laugh, RR. > > Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:55:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Annual VMA slagging njc It was so refreshing, when Lance Armstrong was asked about thanking God for his recovery from testicular cancer, he said he couldn't do that because then he'd have to blame God for giving him the cancer in the first place. And if you thank God for surviving an accident, does that mean that God wants the ones that don't survive dead? (Just asking rhetorically, mind you...) <50 Cent: You owe me 49 cents change. He makes Ashley Simpson seem talented. I hope he doesn't kill me.> I think you're all right unless you're part of the G-Unit, or friends with Suge Knight or something or other. Thanks for the laughs (and the sharp insights too) Randy. Bob, totally bling-free - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:07:44 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Happy Birthday JMDL! Fabulous piece, Les--with amazing photos--I love it. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:06 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Happy Birthday JMDL! Joniphiles - First, many thanks to Mother Nature for sparing New Orleans from the worst of the storm. Let's have a clean-up party, Paz! Secondly, Happy 9th Birthday to the JMDL tommorrow! August 30, 1996 saw the JMDL's very first post. In celebration - and quite co-incidentally - I'm pleased to announce the first in what i hope to be a series of exclusive JMDL interviews. The first interviewee is John Uren, the man who started the Depression Coffeehouse in Calgary in September of 1963 and gave a young lady named Joni Anderson her first regularly-paying gig. John talks a lot about the Depression days and gives some interesting insight into the early Joni. Plus, you get to see an early drawing of Joni's from 1964. Many thanks to John, a true gentleman who over the past few months has endured my many edits and changes to the text. Read the interview here: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 Enjoy! Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! - --- Les Irvin wrote: I'm > pleased to announce the first in what i hope to be a > series of exclusive JMDL interviews. > > The first interviewee is John Uren, the man who > started the Depression Coffeehouse in Calgary in > September of 1963 and gave a young lady named Joni > Anderson her first regularly-paying gig. John talks > a lot about the Depression days and gives some > interesting insight into the early Joni. Plus, you > get to see an early drawing of Joni's from 1964. > > Many thanks to John, a true gentleman who over the > past few months has endured my many edits and > changes to the text. > > Read the interview here: > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 > > Enjoy! > Les > Well done, Mr. I. I particularly enjoyed this bit: "because we were in Calgary - the heart of the Bible belt - by law I wasnt allowed to charge admission on Sunday. So what I did was to begin the evening with a little religious introduction - taking off Oral Roberts who was big at the time. Id bring up a folksinger, hed be on his knees, and Id say, 'Heal, brother! Heal!' Hed get up, throw away the crutches, people would laugh. And then wed take up a collection. I actually made more money taking up a collection than if I had charged admission." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:54:59 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Little Boxes RE: Happy Birthday JMDL! NJC Actually, Malvina Reynolds wrote "Little Boxes." Here's a little info on her: http://www.sisterschoice.com/malvinamain.html Jimmy wrote: "A Pete Seeger song called 'Little Boxes' captured the time: 'Ticky tacky little houses all in a row, everybody goes to university, everybody graduates, everybody gets married and lives in these little ticky tacky houses.b" So ironic, I was just singing this song before I read the article. I've never heard it until the new Showtime series "Weeds" premiered a few weeks ago. Funny show, and now I know who wrote it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:49:01 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: njc hurricane Doesn't look like that's going to be the case, power is down all over around there, from what I can see flooding is going to be the worst problem. Just talked to Pazman a little while ago, they are high and dry here in Houston and glued to the TV with no info. yet on how their house fared. The most important thing is that they are ok. db >>> "Kate Bennett" 8/28/2005 11:25:07 PM >>> Adding my prayers to Paz & New Orleans... Jeff just heard a prediction that said 90% of the buildings could go... I pray they are terribly wrong ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #329 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)