From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #328 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 29 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 328 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: New Library addition: Liz Braun ["Azeem" ] New book on Joni [Deb Messling ] RE: Was Liz Braun, now Scritti Politti NJC ["hell" ] Re: New book on Joni [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (NJC) [Patti Witten ] Re: New book on Joni [Deb Messling ] Joni Covers Updates [Bob Muller ] Re: "I never died," said he -- njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Where Have all the Joni's Gone? ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] New Orleans - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: "I never died," said he -- njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni As A Baby [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Joni As A Baby [Bob Muller ] RE: "I never died," said he -- njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni As A Baby [Nuriel Tobias ] RE: Joni As A Baby ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC [Catherine McKay ] RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) [Nuriel Tobias ] RE: Joni As A Baby [Em ] Re: "I never died," said he -- njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) [Em ] RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) [Nuriel Tobias ] Paz and others on way out? (NJC) ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: New book on Joni [Catherine McKay ] Jonifest Pictures (NJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Paz please get out NJC ["Barbara L" ] RE: Neil Young as Joni's archivist ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] upatriotic canadians - njc [Smurf ] joan ["mack watson-bush" ] Drive In Saturday ["Mike and Alice Hicks" ] njc hurricane ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:38:33 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: New Library addition: Liz Braun Jeez, there are a lot of pissy people out there earning a few bucks for taking pot shots at the rich and famous. Not that the rich and famous should be exempt from criticism, satire, even downright bitching. But when there's such a plain nasty, smug edge to it, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Then there's the fact that she's had to twist the chronology to make her not-really-worth-making point fit; and the ludicrously anachronistic epithets: fey little songbird?? Gimme a break! Azeem in London NP: Scritti Politti - Anomie and Bonhomie (anyone else love this forgotten classic as much as I do?) - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 26/08/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 06:45:57 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: New book on Joni Below is a blurb from the NY Daily News about a new Joni biography. Anybody know of the author? I read through a few Amazon reviews of his other books, and they seem sort of Brian Hinton-like. Well, we can hope, I suppose. BTW, I did NOT find the Joni book in Amazon at all. # JONI MITCHELL by Mark Bego (Taylor Trade Publishing, $24.95) Bego, who has penned biographies of musicians including Cher, Madonna and Bette Midler, focuses on the legendary '60s songstress in his latest effort, using new interviews, personal documents and more. Mitchell's debut album was released in 1968, followed up by the immensely popular "Clouds" in 1969 and "Ladies of the Canyon" in 1970. Mitchell returned to the headlines in 1996 when a daughter she had given up for adoption began a public quest to meet her mother. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:50:38 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Was Liz Braun, now Scritti Politti NJC Azeem wrote: > NP: Scritti Politti - Anomie and Bonhomie (anyone else love > this forgotten classic as much as I do?) Boy, that name brings back a few memories! I didn't have that album, but I did have Cupid & Psyche (I had to look up the name to refresh my memory), and loved it - I played it over and over and over. No idea what happened to it - probably traded it at some point when I needed some quick cash! Hell - reliving the 80's tonight NP (just to prove the point): Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You ___________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:29:42 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: New book on Joni Deb Messling schrieb: > Below is a blurb from the NY Daily News about a new Joni biography. > Anybody know of the author? I read through a few Amazon reviews of his > other books, and they seem sort of Brian Hinton-like. Well, we can > hope, I suppose. Well, erm, no. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/14/AR2005061401559.html Court and No Spark By Chrissie Dickinson Wednesday, June 15, 2005; C11 JONI MITCHELL Both Sides Now By Mark Bego Taylor Trade. 366 pp. $24.95 Mark Bego is the reigning king of the cranked-out bio. From Cher to Whitney to Madonna to Michael Jackson, more than 40 celebrities have gotten the Bego treatment (with a few actually cooperating with him). His latest target is Joni Mitchell, who apparently couldn't duck fast enough. "Joni Mitchell: Both Sides Now" is an unauthorized biography. Bego, seemingly armed with a file folder of old press clips and a Google search, has turned the story of one of rock's most complicated icons into a slapdash, surface-rehash, 366-page mash note. Though his unabashed worship of the Canadian singer-songwriter frequently drips off the page, he perversely manages to reduce a vibrant artist to a brittle stick figure. The first red flag comes in the prologue, where Bego recounts his brief, accidental meeting with Mitchell backstage at the 1996 Grammy Awards. Bego, who explains to the reader that he, like Mitchell, is also a painter, describes their 10-minute conversation. Nothing is revealed in Bego's recollection, other than the author's rather stunning immodesty: "I felt like Gauguin having a chat with van Gogh." Bego comes up with little fresh material. Of the 150 quote sources listed, only a handful are credited to new interviews conducted by the author. An avid recycler, Bego largely cuts and pastes quotes from old Mitchell interviews with other writers, cobbling together a bland rendering of the artist's life and career. He covers the basic plot in cursory fashion. Before she found fame, Mitchell survived a number of hard knocks: several childhood bouts with serious illness, an out-of-wedlock pregnancy that led to her putting the child up for adoption, and an ill-fated early marriage to the aspiring folk singer Chuck Mitchell. By the time of her first recording in 1968, the ethereal blonde bore the look of countless other hippie ingenues. But beneath the surface was a restless contrarian. From the start, she was far more than just another trilling folkie wannabe. She'd already penned several preternaturally mature classics, including "Both Sides Now" and "The Circle Game," songs that still resonate in the culture nearly 40 years on. Mitchell attracted an adoring audience with her early, confessional albums, but she soon morphed into a challenging and sometimes difficult musical innovator. Her astringent folk arrangements eventually gave way to progressive experimentations in jazz-rock fusion, techno and orchestral music. Now enshrined in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame -- an institution she openly detests -- Mitchell, at 61, has amassed a legacy worthy of a serious recounting. Unfortunately, this book isn't it. When Mitchell's quotes touch on fascinating but limited information, Bego largely fails to do the necessary additional research that would give these stories contextual and historical heft. For instance, Mitchell was stricken with polio at the age of 9. Recounting that time, she recalls that, "Neil [Young] and I both got polio in the same Canadian epidemic." Most thorough biographers would have spent at least a paragraph or two amplifying that period with some hard facts. How wide-ranging was the epidemic? How long did it last? How many adults and children were affected? And how did it affect Young, Mitchell's contemporary? Don't ask Bego. After a few perfunctory lines about her year-long rehabilitation, he's already moved on to the next highlight of Mitchell's life. His segues are often fawning ("Joni was never one to follow the rules, and being told she could not do something only made her want to do it more") and frequently sophomoric ("What is the one thing that will make a recording artist return to writing and recording love songs? Well, falling in love, of course!"). And so it relentlessly goes with the Bego formula -- pile on mostly previously published quotes from Mitchell or another source, then stitch them together with weak connective tissue. The Frankenstein's monster that emerges is a graceless, lumbering beast. Even a potentially spicy rundown of Mitchell's early romantic liaisons -- a veritable who's who of early-'70s SoCal hipsters that included David Crosby, Graham Nash, James Taylor, Jackson Browne and Warren Beatty -- turns dull in Bego's telling. Throughout he pads his book with numbing song-by-song synopses of each of Mitchell's albums. The occasional zinger thus hits with the force of a bucket of cold water. "Joni Mitchell is about as modest as Mussolini," Crosby told Rolling Stone in an early interview. Bego lets that biting remark dangle in the air with no authorial follow-up, squandering another opportunity for deeper analysis of his subject. As the book drones to a close, Bego recalls that in the early '90s he learned that Mitchell had signed a deal to pen her autobiography. At the time, he offered his services as a ghostwriter to the publishing house but was told Mitchell planned to write the book herself. "Ten years later, her autobiography has yet to be written," the author notes. Even if Mitchell never gets around to telling her own tale, Bego does the rock legend no favors with this superficial biography. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:54:54 -0400 From: Patti Witten Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (NJC) About Suzy Roche, Kate wrote: > in our > conversation I recall she had a daughter whose dad I thought she said was a > wainwright? Did I make that up? Kate, it's true. Louden likes sisters: McGarrigles, Roches... Er, women. Here's some background: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Loudon-Wainwright-III PS I love him and the whole extended, blended family. Patti - -- Patti Witten on I-Town Records www.itownrecords.com MySpace http://myspace.com/pattiwitten http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:25:37 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: silencing Bob M at Jonifest njc See below..... but my comments would be I think you were about to gargle or yodel or something silly and it would have ruined the moment.... I had totally forgotten about that incident but then I was somewhat out of it myself!!!! Ah it all comes back to me now..in the faded mists of remembrance and regret.I wanna go back there NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW QLL worried for Jimmy and Ed, Mike P and all the listers being swooshed about by whichever Hurricane it has become... Take care, batten down the hatches and put on some good music..... Love and hugs to you all ORIGINAL MESSAGE..... Bob already mentioned how he honored the french vino on the 1st night.> Well, if you'd have had some King Cobra there I would have been OK. Well, I'm not sore at all - just seems a shame because I'm sure I would have said something BRILLIANT, and now we'll never know. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:27:55 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: New book on Joni OMG, he sounds like Son of Brian Hinton! Thanks for the warning, Moni. At 07:29 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/14/AR2005061401559.html > >Mark Bego is the reigning king of the cranked-out bio. From Cher to >Whitney to Madonna to Michael Jackson, more than 40 celebrities have >gotten the Bego treatment (with a few actually cooperating with him). His >latest target is Joni Mitchell, who apparently couldn't duck fast enough. Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers Updates Tori Amos played a full version of "Both Sides Now" during the 'Piano Bar' segment of her concert last night. Hopefully this will be included on one of her official bootlegs. She had previously played a snippet of BSN as an intro to "Cloud On My Tongue" live. Joni Covers, Volume 68 is right around the corner - here's a little toe-tappin' bluegrass version of BSN by Eddie Shelton (with a young Vince Gill on dobro) to warm you up for it: http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ABD00BO2RKZ70NCOJO1E2AFOL Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "New Amsterdam" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:36:14 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: "I never died," said he -- njc Kate wrote: I feel that cindy's protest is monumental both personally & historically Hi Kate, Cindy is definitely making an impact on history. I would hope to be doing the same thing if it was my son who had died (a chilling thought). The cost of the war is much more than billions of dollars leading to national debt. There is a greater debt being imposed upon the American public that Cindy is bringing to attention. There is no freedom in the debt of this war. War should ONLY be a last resort, and this one wasn't/isn't that. It is a perverted twist on "defense" in my opinion. Reminds me of Charles Manson's mentality. Just because it comes in a suit and tie and from a white house doesn't mean it isn't insanity. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Where Have all the Joni's Gone? I often post about my favorite show, CBS Sunday Morning. They just aired a segment asking Where are all the great singer-songwriters, naming Joni as the best. The segment focused on the greatr talents that never get radio play, such as Joseph Arthur, Ben Weaver, and the oft mentioned here and one of my favorites, Mary Gauthier. I hope some of you got to see it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:35:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: New Orleans - njc With New Orleans and hurricanes all in the news, as I think about Paz and famiglia and all those who have to flee the hurricane's wrath, I can't get out of my head this song by The Tragically Hip... New Orleans is sinking (*note from me - I hope not*) Bourbon blues on the street, loose and complete Under skies all smoky blue green I can't forsake a dixie dead shake So we danced the sidewalk clean My memory is muddy What's this river that I'm in? New Orleans is sinking, man And I don't wanna swim Colonel Tom, what's wrong? what's going on? You can't tie yourself up for a deal He said, Hey north you're south shut your big mouth, You gotta do what you feel is real Ain't got no picture postcards, ain't got no souvenirs My baby, she don't know me when I'm thinking bout those years Pale as a light bulb hanging on a wire Sucking up to someone just to stoke the fire Picking out the highlights of the scenery Saw a little cloud that looked a little like me I had my hands in the river My feet back up on the banks Looked up to the lord above And said, hey man thanks Sometimes I feel so good, I gotta scream She said, Gordie baby I know exactly what you mean She said, she said, I swear to god she said Ohhhhhhh ohhhh Yeah My memory is muddy What's this river that I'm in? New Orleans is sinking man and I don't wanna swim Swim! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:10:03 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC >Even picking strings! me likey.... and you are a cutie! :-) Yeah...I think this guy just wants attention. Him or his views aren't even worth discussing . All of you close to the Gulf stay safe. Love... Bree >:) >happy Friday, >Em > >--- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > > TIE HIS BUTT DOWN AND MAKE HIM LISTEN TO HEJIRA! > > > > > > > > >--- Les Irvin wrote: > > > > > > > Regarding the just-added article to the Library, I > > > > have just two comments: > > > > > > > > "Huh??" > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > "What the...?" > > > > > > > > I hope you all 'enjoy' it as much as I did. > > > > > > > > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1332 > > > > > > > > Puzzled, > > > > Les > > > > > > > > > >I'm equally puzzled. I'm not sure the guy necessarily > > >understands what the word "gross" means. > > > > > >He got paid to write that? > > > > > >Scratching my head... > > > > > > > > >Catherine > > >Toronto > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:17:22 -0400 From: LesIrvin@jmdl.com Subject: New Library addition: 'Court and No Spark' The following has been recently added to the JMDL Library: Title: Court and No Spark Publication: Washington Post Date: 2005-6-15 Type: Review - Book Find it here under "Most recent additions...": http://jmdl.com/library ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Where Have all the Joni's Gone? There are lots of songwriters out there, they just don't get signed to labels. Nuri "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: I often post about my favorite show, CBS Sunday Morning. They just aired a segment asking Where are all the great singer-songwriters, naming Joni as the best. The segment focused on the greatr talents that never get radio play, such as Joseph Arthur, Ben Weaver, and the oft mentioned here and one of my favorites, Mary Gauthier. I hope some of you got to see it. Jerry - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:32:39 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: "I never died," said he -- njc * Cindy is definitely making an impact on history. I would hope to be doing the same thing if it was my son who had died (a chilling thought). The cost of the war is much more than billions of dollars leading to national debt. There is a greater debt being imposed upon the American public that Cindy is bringing to attention. There is no freedom in the debt of this war. < Well said. It is a chilling thought, one that Cindy says is the reason she is doing this- so you & I and other mothers, fathers, wives, husbands, sons, daughters, etc won't have to contain the unbearable pain that she carries. But it seems she is somehow finding redemption & solace for Casey's death in her protest because she is making an impact like you said & is doing so because of her beloved son's death. But the part about her returning to Texas & seeing the big picture of her son & just missing him so much. Agh. Every time I read her words or even now writing this, it just makes me cry. Part of me longs to go to where she is, to add my body to the numbers. Although this protest includes so many others who are important, there is something deeply routed in the powerful motherhood instinct that I don't think has ever been tapped into like this before. (I don't mean to leave the fathers out, I know it must be the same- it is just that we carry those babies inside us & they really never stop being a part of us even when the cord is cut & they are all grown up). Perhaps at a future point I will find a way to go join her because my heart is certainly with her. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Joni As A Baby Could anyone kind direct me to a photo of Joni as a baby, if something like that exsists. Thank you, Nuri p.s. I wonder what kind of baby was Joan. Do you think she was crying a lot during the night?:) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:52:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni As A Baby http://www.jonimitchell.com/ChildhoodDays.html Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. Bob NP: Cowboy Junkies, "One" Nuriel Tobias wrote: Could anyone kind direct me to a photo of Joni as a baby, if something like that exsists. Thank you, Nuri p.s. I wonder what kind of baby was Joan. Do you think she was crying a lot during the night?:) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: "I never died," said he -- njc Cindy Sheehan puts a human face on the American suffering...something that Bush has tried to keep under the radar screen (not allowing photographs of the incoming caskets, etc). The story about the Ohio town that lost so many men sort of busted the thing open, and Cindy and her supporters are now placing it square in the radar. Bush ("Never In Doubt - Always Wrong") has to fly all the way to Idaho to talk to a pre-selected military audience and pump himself up, while ignoring his fellow Americans literally in his own backyard. Pretty pathetic. In some ways I feel like we're on the verge of our own civil war, which he has set up with all of his divisive sloganeering ("either you're with us or you're against us"). The good news - his approval rating is down around 35% so we've got the numbers. The bad news - his 35% fan club has most of the guns. How long before Cindy becomes a martyr? I'm listening to the new Cowboy Junkies CD, called "Early 21st Century Blues", in which they do covers of "Soldier" songs...another stellar effort from The Timmins. One interesting note, they do a cover of Springsteen's "You're Missing" . Bruce of course wrote it to represent the lament of somebody who lost a loved one during 9/11, and the Junkies sing it to represent the lament of somebody who lost a sodier in war. They also cover Bruce's "Brothers Under The Bridge". Bob NP: The Cowboy Junkies, "I Don't Want To Be A Soldier" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni As A Baby Thanks for this charming link, Bob. Gee. She looks so naive. Who wouldv'e thought. Nuri Bob Muller wrote: http://www.jonimitchell.com/ChildhoodDays.html Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. Bob NP: Cowboy Junkies, "One" Nuriel Tobias wrote: Could anyone kind direct me to a photo of Joni as a baby, if something like that exsists. Thank you, Nuri p.s. I wonder what kind of baby was Joan. Do you think she was crying a lot during the night?:) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:45:19 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. Here's another: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Yeah...I think this guy just wants attention. Him > or his views aren't even > worth discussing . > > And yet, ironically,... Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby Great photos in that article, Les - I love the second one, probably as close to a "baby picture" as we'll see. I just want to pinch those lil' chubby cheeks. Bob NP: Joni, "Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire" (MOA version) Les Irvin wrote: > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. Here's another: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:07:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) How Joni did not turn up to be a lesbian is beyond me:) Nuri Les Irvin wrote: > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. Here's another: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby this article brought tears to my eyes. A good one, right? (the article) Maybe its because of the thought of what this hurricane is going to do - - spanking that area into submission; just got me emotional...but I think actually its just because its just a really REALLY good article about the really REALLY good Joni Mitchell, who is such a "mensch". Em - --- Les Irvin wrote: > > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. > > Here's another: > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:38:57 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: "I never died," said he -- njc Kate wrote: Perhaps at a future point I will find a way to go join her because my heart is certainly with her. Hi Kate, If do, let me know, and I'll go with you. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) LOL! Nuri, how do you figure that? from everything I've seen and read, she's totally "boy crazy"! :) Em - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > How Joni did not turn up to be a lesbian is beyond me:) > > Nuri > > Les Irvin wrote: > > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. > > Here's another: > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:05:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) Em, come on, from being a cowboy to wishing she was a black man, i mean, i know she likes men a bit (lol), but realy... Nuri Em wrote: LOL! Nuri, how do you figure that? from everything I've seen and read, she's totally "boy crazy"! :) Em - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > How Joni did not turn up to be a lesbian is beyond me:) > > Nuri > > Les Irvin wrote: > > Not really a baby picture, but as a young child. > > Here's another: > http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=49 > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:02:09 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Paz and others on way out? (NJC) Katrina's her name destruction is her game remember our friends down there. Peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: Joni As A Baby, (and as a lesbian) well, I guess a woman who sees guitar strings in the sky can imagine any old other thing she fancies too...maybe she'd want to be a gay cowboy or gay black man..that way she could still have her "cake" and eat it too! That article Les linked to earlier - reading that made me think again, how very breakable yet how very tough humans can be. And how through all the injustices, I remain thankful that, to an extent, the big fish aren't "allowed" to eat the little weaker sickly fish..so they can flourish and grow too (maybe). ha, I know I strayed there from the original conversation.. Em - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Em, come on, from being a cowboy to wishing she was a black man, i > mean, i know she likes men a bit (lol), but realy... > Nuri ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:25:01 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Things that make you go hmmmmm....NJC > > Yeah...I think this guy just wants attention. Him > > or his views aren't even > > worth discussing . >And yet, ironically,... LOL.... In truth...I just can't get the guy out of my head. I hate him for this! Bree >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:27:19 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New book on Joni Deb Messling wrote: > BTW, I did NOT find the Joni book in Amazon at all. > > # JONI MITCHELL by Mark Bego (Taylor Trade Publishing, $24.95) Bego, who > has penned biographies of musicians including Cher, Madonna and Bette > Midler, focuses on the legendary '60s songstress in his latest effort, > using new interviews, personal documents and more. Mitchell's debut album > was released in 1968, followed up by the immensely popular "Clouds" in 1969 Was Clouds immensely popular? Moni Kellermann wrote: > Throughout he pads his book with numbing song-by-song synopses > of each of Mitchell's albums. Ugh! That's the worst! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:36:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New book on Joni - --- Randy Remote wrote: > > Moni Kellermann wrote: > > > Throughout he pads his book with numbing > song-by-song synopses > > of each of Mitchell's albums. > > Ugh! That's the worst! > It fills up pages real quick though, doesn't it? Arrgh! Some people get MONEY to write dreck like that. And some people like to read it. Hell in a handbasket! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:54:10 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Jonifest Pictures (NJC) I finally uploaded and captioned my Jonifest pictures up at Chris' site. I look forward to seeing everyone else's pics! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:38:09 +0000 From: "Barbara L" Subject: Paz please get out NJC Paz, thinking of you. Please be sure to leave New Orleans, Love, b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:59:43 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Neil Young as Joni's archivist Hmm. Neil Young has a new album, to be released next month called "Prairie Wind". The first song is called "Painter". I don't have the lyrics (and you all KNOW how bad my memory is) but... The painter is a woman and Neil says something like "she picks her colors from the air." She sounds very familiar, eh gang? Lama > -----Original Message----- > Bad news: > 1 Mr. Young is still writing. > 2 Mr. Young is still recording. > 3 Mr. Young tours occasionally. > 4 Mr. Young was sidelined last year. > 5 So, in his SPARE TIME, he can work on his own rarities. > 6 As mentioned, Joni's project is in queue behind Neil's. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:24:10 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: sjc, a Joni mention on this flight tonight Nobody can quote Joni like you do, Patti. Thanks for the update on your trip. You were very descriptive (in your unique style). Did you notice the blue lights out on Airport Rd? Jim Patti said, >Soon enough, up go the flaps and down go the wheels, heatwaves on the runway as the wheels set down, and I'm taking my baggage off the carousel, and it's home again, home again, jiggedy jig, to shower off the dust and sleep on the strange pillows of my wanderlust> Jim Covington, KY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:31:24 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: njc, Team Gail update Thank you so much Patti for the update on Gail! She and Julius have been on my heart ever since Julius' last post! I am so relieved! Now my prayres go out to Paz and family. I have been thinking of them all day. If you hear from him, please let him know the city of New Orleans and surrounding areas will be in our prayers!!! Love, Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" >To: magsie_h@yahoo.com, djb@binkleybarfield.com, AsharaJM@aol.com, >kate@katebennett.com, joni@smoe.org >CC: steph@cix.co.uk, sherellesmith@hotmail.com, audreyparlette@webtv.net, >anima_rising@yahoo.ca, btsmft2000@yahoo.com >Subject: njc, Team Gail update >Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:07:36 +0000 > > > >> >>hey Patti, what's the news on Gail? Tell Julius and Gail both that "Team >>Gail" sends our love and hugs... >>Mags. >> >> > >Dear Team Gail: > >Forgive me for having shirked my honored duty lately....I was away and did >not have computer access. And even worse, I didn't talk with Julius for >over a week! I guess I was just assuming that all was well, so I was quite >shocked when I called him (on Monday, I think it was) and he told me they >were back in the hospital. He said the organs were fine, but that Gail was >experiencing some nausea and they needed to have some tests done. > >But now I am happy to report that Gail came home Thursday, after a week in >the hospital, and she is doing great. The nausea is gone and Julius says >that life is now "a picnic". In fact, they hope to go on one today by a >river. Oh, I hope they find a beautiful river they can skate away on! >Have a picnic, by a river flowing, J & G, deep kisses and the sun going >down...... I think it was awfully rough on both of them to have to go back >to the hospital after finally getting out and through all that anxiety and >trauma (those are MY words, not his. Julius does not complain.) so may >their sorrow be interrupted for a long long time! Damn right! > >So now I send up my prayer that Monsieur Paz et famille will escape the >anticipated wrath of Hurricane Katrina down south, and that to the north of >me that Ashara continues to celebrate her birthday (hugs to you, Ashara!), >and Mags' her new digs and job. Oh, and of course, Smurf! How could I >forget Boston Bob! I'm so sorry to hear of your accident, yet at the same >time I am cheered by your wonderful attitude, and I hope you are recovering >and relaxing well. > >Love, > >Patti P., still wayyyy behind on all the digests and everything else ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: upatriotic canadians - njc From overheardinnewyork.com: Chick #1: They're so unpatriotic. Chick #2: What do you mean? Chick #1: I, like, went to visit a friend of mine in Canada for the 4th of July weekend and nobody was celebrating the holiday. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:49:59 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: joan When frought with thought, troubles brewing, indecision simmering, where does one turn? To a friend, the family, inside, or do nothing but disavow the existence of such and leave it all in the wind? Surely all these routes are taken, with regularity and with success. Me? Tonight, I once again turn to my friend Joan. And she soothes, a balm without a label or a commercial. Stronger each day does the once little boy become and I, again, send out thanks to you, Joni Mitchell. With all my love, mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:29:29 -0400 From: "Mike and Alice Hicks" Subject: Drive In Saturday Hey Bob, Glad you have such good taste in music. That David Bowie Aladdin Sane is great. Been a big fan since college. Panic In Detroit is a great rock and roll song. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:25:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc hurricane Adding my prayers to Paz & New Orleans... Jeff just heard a prediction that said 90% of the buildings could go... I pray they are terribly wrong ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #328 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)