From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #302 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, August 5 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 302 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me ["Sherelle Smith" ] njc, clothes on the line ["Marianne Rizzo" ] honor the earth, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Janis Joplin,njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me [Loren Carter ] Re: McCartney is touring USA. njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc [Em ] Re: Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc [Smurf ] Re: Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc [Em ] Re: Janis Joplin,njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Janis Joplin,njc [Em ] RE: Marc Broussard (njc) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Janis Joplin,njc ["Mark Scott" ] njc, the latest Team Gail update ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:31:55 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me Hi Loren, Do get it if you can!!!! I'll just come camp out and look at it on your wall when the urge strikes!! (Ha! Ha!) Your wife is going to absolutely love it!!! If you are looking for someone to hold you back...I'm not the one!!!! Sherelle Loren wrote: All, I've been REALLY tempted to purchase that painting (lithograph) as a present for my wife. She's the real Joni-phile. We've got one signed print, what's another one. While that amount of $$$ is nothing to sneeze at, there are major gift giving holidays on the horizon. That last statement makes me even more likely to tender a bid. HMMMMMMM Loren (the one with the twitchey wallet) NP...something by Carlos Santana on the radio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:34:50 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc, jonining the circle >right into your blood-red fingertips Ms. Patty Parlette, HOW did you know my finger tips were blood red? By the way, I love that game Balderdash. . . It is like the dictionary game. >It WAS a Mitchellian slip! he heheheh! you are something Ms. Patty Parlette Subject: njc, marianne jonining the circle Patti, Sure was a swift thing yet it happened without my knowledge. just lucky, I guess love Marianne - - --------------- Balderdash! You were not "just lucky", Marianne. It WAS a Mitchellian slip! Sweet bird, you are, but you can't fool ME -- I see the deeeeeeper meaning. You don't even see the Joniomatic logic that goes on in your head - - -- Joni is in your blood like holy wine and she runs through all your circuits like a heartbeat right through your impossibly gentle hands right into your blood-red fingertips to make you type like this. You are that easily led and you don't even realize it! But that's a good thing, of course -- especially here, where there is good reception for you. I don't think you need treatment. Love, Patti P., thinking about zombies and MUDSLIDE SLIM! NPIMH: "Twisted", ""Barangrill", "Case of You", "Electricity", and you know..... _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:37:24 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc, clothes on the line I am trying to put my clothes on the line, whenever possible. .. to save energy. so let's encourage each other to do that. I know I can use a little gentle reminder every now and again. And to think, there are some twons that don't allow people to hang clothes on the line. preposturous! (sp?) _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:42:25 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: honor the earth, njc How can we honor the earth? How about if we all give simple ways that we can honor the earth? I'll start. 1. When I shop for a product in a regular store, I try to piick the one I want but also the one with the least amount of hefty packaging. . . you know, styro foam and plastic. . etc 2. make compost. . put my table scraps, vege stuff, etc. in the dirt. . leaves and grass and things. Love to all Marianne _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:49:12 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Janis Joplin,njc I saw Festival Express this week. (thanks to who ever recommended it, I forgot) (it wasn't like wow terrific or anything but interesting and historical just the same) and I really don't know Janis Joplin that much . .. I mean, here and there. . .but I really liked her energy. . I like her. It made me think that now a days if someone is hyperactive we give them a drug. . in the 70's we gave them a microphone and some appreciation. Go Janis. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Carter Subject: Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me Sherelle, I placed a bid on it yesterday, with a modest escalation amount. So, if it does make it to the walls of my house, you'd be welcome to come and take a peak. I've received e-mails from the guy offering the litho offering to sell it to me outright for 4 digits (he'd pull it back if I'd offer to pay that much). We've had some serious family issues recently (my brother-in-law's step son met a tragic, untimely end), so this lithograph is not our most important consideration right now. I told the offering guy, that I would not be getting into a last-minute bidding war like he reports that his last signed Joni offering did, but if my offer wins I'll get the painting and we can arrange a house based viewing for all who wanna see it. Only the passage of time will reveal what the future has in mind for us, If I remember correctly, Lori F. mentioned that you will have a concert appearance here in DC in the near future, and if that's you, all the best to you. Loren......... NP....Billy Joel....Only The Good Die Young ... scarily appropriate, really spooky - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Loren, > > Do get it if you can!!!! I'll just come camp out and > look at it on your wall > when the urge strikes!! (Ha! Ha!) Your wife is going > to absolutely love > it!!! If you are looking for someone to hold you > back...I'm not the one!!!! > > Sherelle > > > Loren wrote: > > All, > > I've been REALLY tempted to purchase that painting > (lithograph) as a present for my wife. She's the > real > Joni-phile. We've got one signed print, what's > another one. While that amount of $$$ is nothing to > sneeze at, there are major gift giving holidays on > the > horizon. That last statement makes me even more > likely to tender a bid. HMMMMMMM > > Loren (the one with the twitchey wallet) > NP...something by Carlos Santana on the radio > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:28 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc, getting back to the hippie generation HI again, I know we've had a a discussion of the hippie generation before. . and I could discuss this over and over again, because: there has never been a time in my life like the 60's and the 70's. . . these times still live with in me and they will always. . whether it was the "age of acquarius, or "maybe it's the time of man." I sometimes call it the last generation (which is kind of impossible, I know) But when I yearn to get back to the hippie generation, I yearn for all the great things about the 60's and 70's. Questioning authority helping you neighbors and your fellow humans time that is only time caring about animals "back to the garden" preservation music experimental activites etc. etc. but we CAN have the best of the hippie generation. . I mean, since the age of communical diseases I think/ hope we have become smarter and perhaps more cautious. . BUT, BUT. . we can still have the peace love and harmony mentality with the responsibility that comes with it. . what I have been thinking about lately is that we can't necessarily bring back a genre for the whole nation, but we can bring it into ourselves and live it everyday. . each of us can live this way with purity of intention and freedom and love and caring and kindness, and watching over your neighbors even tho they may not know it. . . My father said that when we were growing up in the 60's in the city (Rochester), if there was a blizzard and on garbage day, while he was at work, if the garbage can went flying in the wind before he rutrurned home, one of his neighbors would have fetched it and brought it into the backyard for him. . Then in the 80's when he move to a suburban neighborhood. . on snowy day, his garbage can would be 3 houses down the road and his neighbors would watch him chasing it after he returned home. I know what a community can be . . or even simple consideration for strangers. . what if they were your family members, how would you treat them differently. . the people in the check out line, the people at the post office, at the station. . I guess what I an saying (in this loosely composed post) is. . . I want the hippie generation to live in me. We can be what we want to be . . it can begin with us. the good things of the 60's and 70's, where you knew your neighbors. . and all those good things, experimental AND traditional and . . well, I gotta go cut the grass oh, one more thing, the jmdl brings me to this place .. . the jonifest brings me . . . "give me the warm power of the sun" oh, we can list phrases that inspire the hippie within us if we want. . I can always use the inspritation Peace and love to all, and best wishes to all the Jonifest France members and family! Marianne _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:12:06 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc When we had our Joni gathering in Tampa last Labor Day weekend we all went to see it as part of an evening out. The Janis parts were by far the best. There will never be anyone like her again. Jerry > I saw Festival Express this week. (thanks to who ever recommended it, I > forgot) (it wasn't like wow terrific or anything but interesting and > historical just the same) > > and I really don't know Janis Joplin that much . .. I mean, here and there. > . .but I really liked her energy. . I like her. > > It made me think that now a days if someone is hyperactive we give them a > drug. . in the 70's we gave them a microphone and some appreciation. > > Go Janis. > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:21:28 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: McCartney is touring USA. njc I saw McCartney about 17 years ago at the hockey arena, here in Cincinnati. It was expensive even then but worth every cent just to hear "Hey Jude" played by the author. So much history... Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY, US Note: The assertions in this email have not yet be validated by the JMDL community. I will, of course, retract any memory, opinion, allegation, or compliment that anyone finds inaccurate or objectionable. I reserve the right to make weekly batches. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:34:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc - --- Em wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:34:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Em > Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc > To: Jerry Notaro > > I tend to agree, Jerry. She was a one and only. No Janis clones. > Thats > why (I think) the efforts to make a movie about her, have been > largely > unsuccesful. No one can pull it off. The singing OR the personality. > The wit, the intelligence - her own twisted but oddly down to earth > "spin" she put on things when speaking. > Alot of the rock and roll "dead"....I mean this sounds harsh, but I > understand *why* they are dead. Not that they are necc. "meant" to > be > dead, but it seems they were heading quickly in that direction, and > death seemed natural enough. > Janis, however, I strongly feel, was *of life*, of the living, of > this > earth ABOVE ground. I feel that her absence is not right somehow. > She's supposed to be here and I quite often think what a grand older > woman she might be now, were she still among us. I think how she > might > have changed her musical course somewhat and done "other" stunning > music, besides her big blues/soul band stuff. > Her absence brings up an ache in me. > It is tempered by joy though, when I listen to her music or when I > see > video of her. > She should be here, dammit. > thanx for listening - I realize this borders on a harangue. > Em > > --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > When we had our Joni gathering in Tampa last Labor Day weekend we > all > > went > > to see it as part of an evening out. The Janis parts were by far > the > > best. > > There will never be anyone like her again. > > > > Jerry > > > > > I saw Festival Express this week. (thanks to who ever > recommended > > it, I > > > forgot) (it wasn't like wow terrific or anything but interesting > > and > > > historical just the same) > > > > > > and I really don't know Janis Joplin that much . .. I mean, here > > and there. > > > . .but I really liked her energy. . I like her. > > > > > > It made me think that now a days if someone is hyperactive we > give > > them a > > > drug. . in the 70's we gave them a microphone and some > > appreciation. > > > > > > Go Janis. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice > on > > how to > > > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc - --- Em wrote: > > She's supposed to be here and I quite often think > what a grand older > > woman she might be now, were she still among us. I > think how she > > might > > have changed her musical course somewhat and done > "other" stunning > > music, besides her big blues/soul band stuff. I have often wondered where life would have taken Janis. A blues-singer friend of mine who is now dead - -- and whose singing was always compared to Janis' -- used to say that Janis would have "blown out her voice" within a few years. Not sure what she would have done had that happened, but I'll bet she wouldn't have been a celebrity judge on American Idol. - --Smurf ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Janis Joplin,njc Thats an interesting thought...but I kinda think her voice was already blown out..and she figured out a way to sound great with a blown voice. Unless the future blew out her voice to the extent that she couldn't utter a sound.... but maybe..I'm not singer..so I don't know how that goes. :) hi Smurf.. Em - --- Smurf wrote: > I have often wondered where life would have taken > Janis. A blues-singer friend of mine who is now dead > -- and whose singing was always compared to Janis' -- > used to say that Janis would have "blown out her > voice" within a few years. Not sure what she would > have done had that happened, but I'll bet she wouldn't > have been a celebrity judge on American Idol. > > --Smurf > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:49:40 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc A blues-singer friend of mine who is now dead > -- and whose singing was always compared to Janis' -- > used to say that Janis would have "blown out her > voice" within a few years. Your friend is absolutely correct. She was a witch with her vocal chords, doing things that were amazing. She squeeze sounds out that would sound like three octave tones produced at the same time. But no one could sustain their voice doing that over the years. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc yeah -she did "chords" with her voice..like 3 blended notes... at least I *think* thats what I'm hearing. hmmm..... Em - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > A blues-singer friend of mine who is now dead > > -- and whose singing was always compared to Janis' -- > > used to say that Janis would have "blown out her > > voice" within a few years. > > Your friend is absolutely correct. She was a witch with her vocal > chords, > doing things that were amazing. She squeeze sounds out that would > sound like > three octave tones produced at the same time. But no one could > sustain their > voice doing that over the years. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:44:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Marc Broussard (njc) It is his voice but also the musical arrangement that is so captivating. >Hi Kate, I'm so glad you had the same reaction! What is it about his voice that brings out that "whoa!" response? He soulful, gutsy, emotional and heartfelt when he sings but there is something else that makes you shake your head in disbelief whenever you hear him! Love, Sherelle< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:45:53 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: A painting by Joni that's new to me Wow. $800 is not a lot of money for original art, especially for something by someone so famous (whether or not she is famous for her painting). I'd love to buy a Joni piece someday. One of her prarie landscapes would be my first choice. I think someday her art will go up in value. Somebody here ought to snap this up! >I want that painting!!!! Oh for an extra $800 dollars!!! Woe is me! Woe is me!!!!! (Smile) Sherelle Bob wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/JONI-MITCHELL-signed-Lithograph-14-50-SWIMMERS_W0QQitemZ 7535831550QQcategoryZ104950QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And even autographed by the artiste! If you have an extra $800 lying around, go for it. Pretty cool painting if you ask me.< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:57:33 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc > Mar wrote and I really don't know Janis Joplin that much . .. I mean, here and there. > . .but I really liked her energy. . I like her. > > It made me think that now a days if someone is hyperactive we give them a > drug. . in the 70's we gave them a microphone and some appreciation. > > Go Janis. - --Somewhat of a Janis fanatic and patterned much of my earlier personality, in those adolescent years and post as well, after hers. She wasn't appreciated for her personality or much else except in the music and the hippie communities. At home in Texas she was made fun of, had rocks thrown at her, and made to believe she was a freak, an aberration not meant to even breathe the same air as the good ole folks down here. I can't agree with the supposition that she had already blown out her voice or would have in the future, if she had lived. She was already toning down much of her singing style and working very hard to become a much better vocalist, smoother, milkier. She adored Otis Redding and was trying to find different avenues to take with her voice, which is evident by the difference in her earlier singing and the 'Pearl' album. A part of me is gone with her and never can I forget that without her I simply would not have made it through those years. She said something to the effect that she would rather have 5 years of superhypermost than 50 years of the old lady boring shit thing. She got it. Can't know exactly what could have filled the hole that she felt in her heart, if anything could have, but she was trying to find some acceptance, of which she could never attain, from those folks back in Texas. Died too young to realize that it doesn't matter what they think. I am glad that Mar brought up this subject. Was listening to Janis the other day and thinking just how fantastic it would be to pull her vocals from the earlier albums and hire good, great musicians, to back her. I can hear 'Kozmic Blues' going just there, into the cosmos. Wish her siblings would put some money into that and leave the silliness behind but have a hard time faulting them for they are trying to keep her memory alive, as if it could ever die. Here's to you Pearl. love, mack > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:16:44 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mack watson-bush" Can't know exactly what could have filled the hole that she > felt in her heart, if anything could have, but she was trying to find some > acceptance, of which she could never attain, from those folks back in > Texas. A former co-worker and good friend of spirit moved to Houston after Airborne folded up here to work in DHL's National Billing Center. She went to New Orleans for a long weekend a while back and I think it was driving back from there when she passed by Port Arthur. She said there was a big sign on the highway in the midst of all the oil refineries advertising the Janis Joplin Museum! I'm still not sure what I think about a Janis Joplin Museum. On one hand, I'm glad someone in her hometown is honoring her in this way. On the other I wonder if it's just exploitation and somebody trying to make a buck off of her name. I know Port Arthur was not kind to Janis while she was alive. Besides, there are connations with the word 'museum' that make me think of things in glass cases, gathering dust. It somehow doesn't jive with Janis's vibrancy. It just serves as a reminder that she's long gone, a thing of the past. I don't like to think of her that way. She will always be remembered as one of the greats and her legacy will never die. She was electric as a performer. A visceral explosion. A vessel of pulating, exaltant life. I still haven't seen 'Festival Express' but I recently purchased the new two disk edition of 'Pearl'. I haven't listened to it yet. I have to be in the right mood to hear Janis and that mood doesn't strike me very often these days. But I will get to it in time. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 03:04:04 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, the latest Team Gail update Julius called this morning to say that Gail had a "rough day" yesterday (Wednesday) w/ nausea. She had a little bit of liquid nutrients -- cranberry juice, and jello that was yucky, but I'm not sure if she actually tried the Jello or not. I was in the hallway of my workplace building on my cellphone and there were a lot of loud adolescent boys taking some special summer course who were running around so I couldn't hear very well. I asked him if she had broth, and he said it was too salty for her system. ("Who made this salty soup? Tell him we're very hungry now, For a sweeter fare....." Sorry, I couldn't resist interjecting that one!) However, this is just "a bump in the road" and Gail is doing better today. He can't wait to get her home and take care of her himself, and he hopes that that will be soon. She is getting excellent care, but as you can imagine, it's not fun being in the hospital. All tests results are still very positive. He asks for your continued prayers, which he appreciates more than my words can express. Love to all, Patti P. >Patti, again, thank you for keeping us updated. Please pass my >continued love and prayers on to Julius when you speak to him next. >Donna I did this Donna, and he says you are a "sweetheart." As is everyone on this list! ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:07:18 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Janis Joplin,njc Great post!! WOW!! I just read this to Marianne over the phone line....she's in New York..I"m in Ohio. Marianne's sister gave me her greatest hits cd on my b-day ....Marianne will play it for a party she's having over the weekend. (I'll still be out of town ;-( ) Love... Bree >From > > Mar wrote > >and I really don't know Janis Joplin that much . .. I mean, here and there. > > . .but I really liked her energy. . I like her. > > > > It made me think that now a days if someone is hyperactive we give them >a > > drug. . in the 70's we gave them a microphone and some appreciation. > > > > Go Janis. > >--Somewhat of a Janis fanatic and patterned much of my earlier personality, >in those adolescent years and post as well, after hers. She wasn't >appreciated for her personality or much else except in the music and the >hippie communities. At home in Texas she was made fun of, had rocks thrown >at her, and made to believe she was a freak, an aberration not meant to >even ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #302 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)