From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #291 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 26 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 291 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- so WHEN are you all going??? NJC [Em ] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: so WHEN are you all going??? NJC [Bob Muller ] payola "shocker" -- njc [Smurf ] Re: payola "shocker" -- njc [Smurf ] Re:Shawn Colvin and Jane Fonda (njc) [slac ] Of Monkees and foxes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Susan L.A. returns, was "Lillies for L'hommedieu", njc really ["Jim L'Hom] Sale at Victoria's Secret, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: so WHEN are you all going??? NJC when will several of you actually depart for Europe? and those IN Europe, head for France?? And those IN France, go to da "place"?.... Soon? I have no clue at this point...was just wondering when folks will be going "off radar" cuz they are traveling? :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc <> You are correct, Em - Document it is. My favorite REM release, though that choice is a dang tough one because of the great ones to pick from. Murmur, Out Of Time, and Automatic For The People are typically considered their best, but there's just something about Document that really stands out to me. Bob NP: Bruce C, "Child Of The Wind" - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:44:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: so WHEN are you all going??? NJC I'll be leaving Thursday 8/11 and returning 8/18. Flying in to Barcelona, then heading up to the Jonifest site on Saturday, and departing with newly licensed driver John van Tiel when the Fest is over for a Holland tour. I expect I'll be off the 'net for most of the time, mostly by choice. Why mess with email when I'm surrounded by JMDLer's? Bob Em wrote: when will several of you actually depart for Europe? and those IN Europe, head for France?? And those IN France, go to da "place"?.... Soon? I have no clue at this point...was just wondering when folks will be going "off radar" cuz they are traveling? :) Em Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:46:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: payola "shocker" -- njc Hey, maybe that Joni is onto something here... Payola Shocker: J-Lo Hits, Others Were 'Bought' by Sony Monday, July 25, 2005 By Roger Friedman ? I always say when people ask me that the so-called vipers of the movie business would not last a day in the record business. Now Eliot Spitzer's office has decided to prove the point. "Please be advised that in this week's Jennifer Lopez Top 40 Spin Increase of 236 we bought 63 spins at a cost of $3,600." "Please be advised that in this week's Good Charlotte Top 40 Spin Increase of 61 we bought approximately 250 spins at a cost of $17K " Ironically, it didn't help, as the memo notes that the company actually lost spins  or plays of the record  even though they laid out money for them. See above: The internal memos from Sony Music, revealed today in the New York state attorney general's investigation of payola at the company, will be mind blowing to those who are not so jaded to think records are played on the radio because they're good. We've all known for a long time that contemporary pop music stinks. We hear "hits" on the radio and wonder, "How can this be?" Now we know. And memos from both Sony's Columbia and Epic Records senior vice presidents of promotions circa 2002-2003  whose names are redacted in the reports but are well known in the industry  spell out who to pay and what to pay them in order to get the company's records on the air. From Epic, home of J-Lo, a memo from Nov. 12, 2002, a "rate" card that shows radio stations in the Top 23 markets will receive $1000, Markets 23-100 get $800, lower markets $500. "If a record receives less than 75 spins at any given radio station, we will not pay the full rate," the memo to DJs states. "We look forward to breaking many records together in the future." Take Jennifer Lopez's awful record, "Get Right," with its shrill horn and lifted rap. It's now clear that was a "bought" sensation when it was released last winter. So, too, were her previous "hits" "I'm Glad" and "I'm Real," according to the memos. All were obtained by Sony laying out dough and incentives. It's no surprise. There isn't a person alive who could hum any of those "songs" now. Not even J-Lo herself. Announced today: Sony Music  now known as Sony/BMG  has to pony up a $10 million settlement with New York's Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. It should be $100 million. And this won't be the end of the investigation. Spitzer's office is looking into all the record companies. This is just the beginning. But what a start: Black-and-white evidence of plasma TVs, laptop computers and PlayStation 2 players being sent to DJs and radio programmers in exchange for getting records on the air. And not just electronic gifts went to these people either. According to the papers released today, the same people also received expensive trips, limousines and lots of other incentives to clutter the airwaves with the disposable junk that now passes for pop music. More memos: "We ordered a laptop for Donnie Michaels at WFLY in Albany. He has since moved to WHYI in Miami. We need to change the shipping address." One Sony memo from 2002: "Can you work with Donnie to see what kind of digital camera he wants us to order?" Another, from someone in Sony's Urban Promotion department: "I am trying to buy a walkman for Toya Beasley at WRKS/NY. Can PRS get it to me tomorrow by 3 p.m.  I really need to get the cd by then or I have to wait a week or two before she does her music again " Nice, huh? How many times have I written in this column about talented and deserving artists who get no airplay, and no attention from their record companies? Yet dozens of records with little or no artistic merit are all over the radio, and racked in displays at the remaining record stores with great prominence. Thanks to Spitzer's investigation, we now get a taste of what's been happening. More memos. This one from Feb. 13, 2004: "Gave a jessica trip to wkse to secure Jessica spins and switchfoot." That would be Jessica Simpson, for whom Sony laid on big bucks in the last couple of years to turn her into something she's clearly not: a star. And then there's the story of a guy named Dave Universal, who was fired from Buffalo's WKSE in January when there was word that Spitzer was investigating him. Universal (likely a stage name) claimed he did nothing his station didn't know about. That was probably true, but the DJ got trips to Miami and Yankee tickets, among other gifts, in exchange for playing Sony records. From a Sony internal memo on Sept. 8, 2004: "Two weeks ago it cost us over 4000.00 to get Franz [Ferdinand] on WKSE." Franz Ferdinand, Jessica Simpson, J-Lo, Good Charlotte, etc. Not exactly The Who, Carly Simon, Aretha Franklin or The Kinks. The "classic" is certainly gone from rock. The question now is: Who will take the fall at Sony for all this? It's not like payola is new. The government investigated record companies and radio stations in the late 1950s and again in the mid 1970s. (When we were in high school, we used to laugh about how often The Three Degrees' "When Will I See You Again?" was played on WABC. We were young and naove!) Spitzer is said to be close friends with Sony's new CEO, Andrew Lack, who publicly welcomed the new investigations earlier this year when they were announced. Did Lack anticipate using Spitzer's results to clean house? Stay tuned  << http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163537,00.html >> ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: payola "shocker" -- njc By the way, that question mark that appeared after Roger Friedman's name when this post came through the list used to be a Fox News logo which -- because God works in mysterious ways -- was turned into a question mark in cyber space. If I were God, and I'm not, I would have turned the Fox News logo into a steaming rat turd which also happened to be shaped like a question mark. - --Smurf ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:02:52 -0700 From: slac Subject: Re:Shawn Colvin and Jane Fonda (njc) I've always thought Shawn should do a 2cd stellar boxed set complete with shooting stars and call it 84,000,000 DESPERATE DELUSIONS... My favourite Shawn song: GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE! And to JANE I have this to say: PEACE= DEATH...Be careful what the f*ck you wish for ;-) Susan L.A. Absolutley bad Lori babe! ;-) I'm thrilled to be back! Wonderful to *see* you listing too! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:16:16 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Of Monkees and foxes, njc "Porpoise Song"! You left off "Daily Nightly" and "Goin' Down". Ah yes, I remember it well. That and Joey Heatherton in a mini-skirt. And Goldie Hahn in a bikini. And Laura Doone in... never mind... Jim L'Hommedieu Cornish Rob said, >And The Monkees were FAB. Pleasant Valley Sunday was one of the three best songs Carole King ever penned, A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You was Neil Diamond's best bar none, and those geetar riffs on Steppin Stone and Last Train To Clarksville were to die for. Then there's Head, of course. Nuff said.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:25:40 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Susan L.A. returns, was "Lillies for L'hommedieu", njc really Susan L.A. Challoner (sp?), is that you? It's been at LEAST five years! I'm glad to see your name pop up. I hope all is well with you. It's been a long time. Joni's written nothing and come out with many anthologies since you left. I think she's trying to match Muller's record of 67 volumes. Pull up a chair. Have some lemonaid. It's been 95 degrees Farenheight for several days, here in Northern Kentucky. Jim Susan, (the long lost) said, >From: slac Subject: (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu After a five year absence, the bitch is back with nothing intelligent to say ;-) Good Morning all! Susan L.A. from BC/DC otherwise known as Washington North...well, I guess that says it all...> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:47:26 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Sale at Victoria's Secret, njc On the "Over The Rhine" message board, one of the women started a discussion about a sale at Victoria's Secret. Others jumped in immediately with their likes, dislikes, and recommendations. There was a side discussion about super models in the catalogs. The women found this exchange educational and uplifting. The men... well we also found it educational and uplifting. How come nothing titillating happens at the dumb ol' JMDL? Meriweather Jones, (checking in after a long absence?) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #291 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)