From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #290 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 25 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 290 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Dame Joni [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: Dame Joni ["Ross, Les" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 [ROBMSTEEN@aol.com] (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu [slac ] Re: (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu [jrmco1@aol.com] RE: Dame Joni ["Ross, Les" ] Re: C'e finzione fantastico italiano? njc [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Dame Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: Shawn Colvin opening (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Lori Fye ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: shawn colvin njc [Lori Fye ] Carole King 'The Living Room Tour' njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING?, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: But soft! Joni speaks! [Monafitz@aol.com] Re: Carole King 'The Living Room Tour' njc [BWORKMAN@woh.rr.com] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Bob Muller ] New Library addition: 'The Underdog Meets Joni Mitchell: Charles Mingus Finds a New Voice' [] Re: But soft! Joni speaks! [jrmco1@aol.com] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Em ] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: If you could turn back time, njc [Em ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:58:53 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Dame Joni > Does anyone believe as I do that Joni should be made a Dame of the > British > empire. This is a major major award for members of the "Commonwealth". > > As a Canadian citizen she is eligible for the award in the same way as > Dame > Shirley Bassey, Dame Peggy Ashcroft and some other British Artists . > This is > the female equivalent to the honorary knighthoods given to male > artists Bob > Geldof (who also is not a British citizen) , Sir Paul McCartney and Sir > Elton John and Sir Mick Jagger ( so ther is room for rebels too Ha > Ha). > As Joni has stopped writing songs now perhaps the time is right to > acknowledge her contribution to the arts .. I would be interested in > anyone's views. > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon I absolutely agree, Paul. All citizens of the Commonwealth of Nations are eligible for this award for service. We have many knighted people here in Australia and as a Canadian citizen, Joni is eligible and (IMHO) more than worthy. Mark in Sydney NP Brandenburg Concerto - Johann Sebastian Bach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:27:37 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Dame Joni Well, for what it's worth, I've just written to my Member of Parliament. Maybe it'll start the ball rolling. I'm looking just now for the Culture Secretary's email and will send the same missive to that office too. Why not. I feel it's time right now to celebrate brilliance. ( I guess it's never a wrong time to celebrate brilliance!) Les (London) - -----Original Message----- From: Mark-Leon Thorne [mailto:mark-leon@iinet.net.au] Sent: 25 July 2005 08:59 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Dame Joni > Does anyone believe as I do that Joni should be made a Dame of the > British > empire. This is a major major award for members of the "Commonwealth". > > As a Canadian citizen she is eligible for the award in the same way as > Dame > Shirley Bassey, Dame Peggy Ashcroft and some other British Artists . > This is > the female equivalent to the honorary knighthoods given to male > artists Bob > Geldof (who also is not a British citizen) , Sir Paul McCartney and Sir > Elton John and Sir Mick Jagger ( so ther is room for rebels too Ha > Ha). > As Joni has stopped writing songs now perhaps the time is right to > acknowledge her contribution to the arts .. I would be interested in > anyone's views. > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon I absolutely agree, Paul. All citizens of the Commonwealth of Nations are eligible for this award for service. We have many knighted people here in Australia and as a Canadian citizen, Joni is eligible and (IMHO) more than worthy. Mark in Sydney NP Brandenburg Concerto - Johann Sebastian Bach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:32:41 EDT From: ROBMSTEEN@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 Re: Melanie Can I just add my name to the Shameless Safka Apologists? Stout words indeed, Catherine! Been trying to track down Gather Me for yonks - I cannot help but suspect that some of the arrangements on that - especially Centre of Your Circle - were absorbed by Joni, to find immaculate flowering on that Black Crow/Don Juan's Reckless Daughter riff. And The Monkees were FAB. Pleasant Valley Sunday was one of the three best songs Carole King ever penned, A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You was Neil Diamond's best bar none, and those geetar riffs on Steppin Stone and Last Train To Clarksville were to die for. Then there's Head, of course. Nuff said. Luv and peace Cornish Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:36:41 -0700 From: slac Subject: (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu After a five year absence, the bitch is back with nothing intelligent to say ;-) Good Morning all! Susan L.A. from BC/DC otherwise known as Washington North...well, I guess that says it all... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:47:22 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu Welcome back, Susan L.A.! As ever, you'll fit right in again. Where have you bean? :-) - -Julius - -----Original Message----- From: slac To: Joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:36:41 -0700 Subject: (NJC) Lillies for L'hommedieu After a five year absence, the bitch is back with nothing intelligent to say ;-) Good Morning all! Susan L.A. from BC/DC otherwise known as Washington North...well, I guess that says it all... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:55:27 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Dame Joni Just tried to send an email to the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. They have a dedicated 'recipient' for honours which I suppose I found surprising. However, the mail failed to 'send' so I've copied the tome onto a letter and it's in my out tray to be collected this morning. Again, why not. Other UK listers and Canadians I guess, (again why not) could do the same. I think it'll take more than my squawk to stir those ruminants. Les (London) - -----Original Message----- From: Ross, Les [mailto:LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] Sent: 25 July 2005 10:28 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Dame Joni Well, for what it's worth, I've just written to my Member of Parliament. Maybe it'll start the ball rolling. I'm looking just now for the Culture Secretary's email and will send the same missive to that office too. Why not. I feel it's time right now to celebrate brilliance. ( I guess it's never a wrong time to celebrate brilliance!) Les (London) - -----Original Message----- From: Mark-Leon Thorne [mailto:mark-leon@iinet.net.au] Sent: 25 July 2005 08:59 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Dame Joni > Does anyone believe as I do that Joni should be made a Dame of the > British empire. This is a major major award for members of the > "Commonwealth". > > As a Canadian citizen she is eligible for the award in the same way as > Dame Shirley Bassey, Dame Peggy Ashcroft and some other British > Artists . This is > the female equivalent to the honorary knighthoods given to male > artists Bob > Geldof (who also is not a British citizen) , Sir Paul McCartney and Sir > Elton John and Sir Mick Jagger ( so ther is room for rebels too Ha > Ha). > As Joni has stopped writing songs now perhaps the time is right to > acknowledge her contribution to the arts .. I would be interested in > anyone's views. > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon I absolutely agree, Paul. All citizens of the Commonwealth of Nations are eligible for this award for service. We have many knighted people here in Australia and as a Canadian citizen, Joni is eligible and (IMHO) more than worthy. Mark in Sydney NP Brandenburg Concerto - Johann Sebastian Bach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:38:14 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: C'e finzione fantastico italiano? njc I'm sure there must be... the only one I can think of is Barbarella (actually, it's continental European and I don't know where Roger Vadim is originally from, but I think he claims to be French and not Italian..) Zoob x littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: Bryan asked: Has there ever even been an Italian sci-fi movie? LOL. Good point. I'm not sure whether the genre exists (it must, mustn't it?) either, but I thought john was expressing impressionistically his astonishment at the weirdness of the music to his ear -- sounding like it had come from the love child of a European and a Martian, perhaps? Ciao, W [referring to:] littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: Hi guys, Jamie reported: in the kitchen and the rest of my flatmates came in... so I was cooking away and one of them said,'My God, what is this music, it's so porn! It's like I'm watching Channel 5 late night softcore... I keep on expecting women with big hair to come in and start fondling each other for no good reason...'>> This reminds me of the first time I played DJRD for my first hubby, John, and as Overture/Cotton Avenue started up, he stood still, frowned, and asked me, "What the hell is that -- the soundtrack to an Italian Sci Fi Movie?" I converted him -- we're still great friends, and he now owns several Jonis, including DJRD. - --Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:41:07 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Dame Joni And now that Her Madge has met her in person, I think that Joni would be up for the next New Years/Birthdays Honours List (which isn't an internet community despite it's name). At least 'Queen Lizzie' knows BSN! Much Joni Jamie Zoob Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Does anyone believe as I do that Joni should be made a Dame of the > British > empire. > > Paul Headon I absolutely agree, Paul. All citizens of the Commonwealth of Nations are eligible for this award for service. We have many knighted people here in Australia and as a Canadian citizen, Joni is eligible and (IMHO) more than worthy. Mark in Sydney NP Brandenburg Concerto - Johann Sebastian Bach - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:53:05 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 And don't even try to find Leftover Wine. Expect to pay $150.00! Jerry > Re: Melanie > > Can I just add my name to the Shameless Safka Apologists? Stout words > indeed, Catherine! Been trying to track down Gather Me for yonks - I cannot > help > but suspect that some of the arrangements on that - especially Centre of Your > Circle - were absorbed by Joni, to find immaculate flowering on that Black > Crow/Don Juan's Reckless Daughter riff. > > And The Monkees were FAB. Pleasant Valley Sunday was one of the three best > songs Carole King ever penned, A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You was Neil > Diamond's best bar none, and those geetar riffs on Steppin Stone and Last > Train > To Clarksville were to die for. Then there's Head, of course. Nuff said. > > Luv and peace > > Cornish Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Dame Joni - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > And now that Her Madge has met her in person, I > think that Joni would be up for the next New > Years/Birthdays Honours List (which isn't an > internet community despite it's name). At least > 'Queen Lizzie' knows BSN! > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > I wasn't sure if Canadians could get this honour but apparently, we can. I found something, strangely enough, on the website of the Ireland Information Guide (http://www.irelandinformationguide.com/British_honours_system): - ---------------------------------------------------- "The honours system of the United Kingdom is a means of awarding for merit those who are deserving, either for achievement or service to the country. The awards exist within a graduated series of importance and with names sometimes dating back centuries. "The recipients are chosen by the Sovereign, who is the 'fountain of honour', acting upon the advice of the Prime Minister. Private nominations are also made to the Prime Minister's Office and foreign nationals are recommended by the Foreign Secretary. Commonwealth governments are also entitled to recommend their citizens for British orders, though most have established their own honours systems. Certain honours are awarded at the personal discretion of the monarch. "Honours are usually conferred twice a year - on the Sovereign's official birthday and at the New Year. There is usually an elaborate ceremony for bestowing honours, the most famous of which is the well-known "knighting" ceremony, in which the sovereign taps the recipient on the shoulder with a ceremonial sword in what is called the accolade." - -------------------------------- Accolades and honours One false step and you're a-goner. especially when there are swords involved. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:55:15 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin opening (njc) Hi Bob and Zachary, Bob, I am in total agreement with you! Zachary, congratulations!!!!! I'm a little behind on my digests so I will be looking for that full report!!!! Go for the gusto!!!! (Dating myself with that phrase!) Sherelle Bob wrote: Hi Zachary, Congrats on opening for SHAWN COLVIN! Man, that rocks, and I know that you will too. Break a leg buddy, and we'll be expecting a full report. Bob NP: Los Lobos, "Tony & Maria" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:04:34 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re:Joni's bittersweetness? Hi Sean, I totally agree with you about the interviewer. Before I came to my present place of employ, I believed most everything I read in the paper. Then I saw firsthand what a "spin doctor" could do to a person in the public eye. Once they have it in for that person, they seem to go in for the kill. I'm really wondering if that is also what is going on with those who interview Joni? i know she speaks frankly and maybe even harshly at times, but I've seen firsthand how a reporter can get his teeth set on edge and be way too willing to take a bite out of someone's character. Sometimes, they show the public only what they want the public to see and anything good or nice, they purposely leave out. Sherelle Sean wrote, Hey, I have read tens of interviews and reviews that attempt to depict Joni's bitterness at the music industry and even (if not especially) other singer-songwriters (mostly women). However, we have to remember that the author of the article may be trying to convey certain messages and s/he may not even be close to capturing Joni's true sentiments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:47:08 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC Zachary, Your Geocities links have not been working for days. They say they will be up in an hour. With this break of yours, maybe you might find out what is happening with them. Good luck. Jerry > Hi everyone, > > I apologize if this isn't ENTIRELY on topic, though > it is Joni-related. We were talking about Shawn > Colvin, who was produced at one point by Larry Klein. > Well, I found out tonight that I'll be opening for > Shawn at her July 29th (one week from tonight, Friday) > show at the Barrymore in Madison. > > http://www.barrymorelive.com/ > > Certainly will be bringing up Joni and had hoped to > play something, but we'll see...Just wanted to mention > that if anyone is in the area and feels like dropping > by the show, Shawn Colvin never disappoints. And I > hope I won't. :) My cover of 'A Case of You' is on my > first cd, "Moment of Clarity", which will be sold at > the show. The great Bob Muller also added it to one of > the cover cd's. Anyways, I'm very excited to open for > Shawn, truly one of my top two or three heroes--I even > thanked her (and Joni!) in the liner notes of my cd, > so imagine my thrill at getting to open for her! > Anyone interested can check out my webpage at: > > http://www.geocities.com/zacharyscot/ > > Again, I apologize if this isn't ENTIRELY on topic. > Hopefully I won't get bashed for this... > > My Best, > Zachary Johnson > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:43:25 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc > If you could see Paul McCartney fill in for one of the Everly Brothers in a free show, would you go? No. Never could stand the Everly Brothers, and Paul filling in for one of them wouldn't make it any better, even if it were free. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #208 njc (If you're responding to the onlyJMDL Digest, can you assume something is njc? Hmmm.) I think help is on the way. It looks like they're going to remaster/re-release a few of the oldies: http://www.spaceformusic.com/melanie/ Rob, I used to have "Gather me" on LP, but I sold it a long time ago, and I regret it now. I also love "Centre of your circle." - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > And don't even try to find Leftover Wine. Expect to > pay $150.00! > > Jerry > > > Re: Melanie > > > > Can I just add my name to the Shameless Safka > Apologists? Stout words > > indeed, Catherine! Been trying to track down > Gather Me for yonks - I cannot > > help > > but suspect that some of the arrangements on that > - especially Centre of Your > > Circle - were absorbed by Joni, to find immaculate > flowering on that Black > > Crow/Don Juan's Reckless Daughter riff. > > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc Paul is a HUGE fan of The Everly Brothers, and wrote Wings of a Nightengale for them. Jerry Lori Fye wrote: >> If you could see Paul McCartney fill in for one of the Everly Brothers >> in > a free show, would you go? > > No. Never could stand the Everly Brothers, and Paul filling in for one of > them wouldn't make it any better, even if it were free. > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:14:21 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc > Paul is a HUGE fan of The Everly Brothers, and wrote Wings of a Nightengale for them. Well, of course he's a huge fan. Paul is, afterall, "of a certain age," and the Everly Brothers music is loved by many of Paul's age, and lots of others as well. I'm just not one of them. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:41:36 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: shawn colvin njc > Delurking briefly to chime in in support of Shawn Colvin. I love "A Few Small Repairs" too and I think it is a creative peak but I am > sure there are fans out there of her other albums. I love that album too, but I still think "Steady On" is, hands down, her best. Lori P.S. -- Hi Susan L.A.! Nice to *see* you here again! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:03:43 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Carole King 'The Living Room Tour' njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Pleasant Valley Sunday was one of the three best > songs Carole King ever penned, Speaking of which, I notice this song is on Carole King's latest release 'The Living Room Tour'. Does anyone have this cd? Any opinions about it? I noticed Louise Goffin performs with Carole on one cut. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:03:38 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Melanie (NJC) Hi Jerry, Tried to send the message below to you, but it bounced back, so I'm sending it to the list. Wow Jerry, I have that one on CD. I remember I only saw it once, so I grabbed it up. But I didn't know it was that rare. I also have "Gather Me" on CD, but it is a burned copy from an original that I had to sell on eBay when times were tough. If anyone wants either one, I can see if I can manage to burn a copy. Best regards, Gary Jerry Notaro wrote: And don't even try to find Leftover Wine. Expect to pay $150.00! Jerry . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:10:51 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" > Zachary, > > Your Geocities links have not been working for days. They say they will be > up in an hour. With this break of yours, maybe you might find out what is > happening with them. > Good luck. > Works when I click on the link. Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:14:36 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin opening - NJC http://www.barrymorelive.com/ works, but the Geocities links from the site do not. Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Notaro" > >> Zachary, >> >> Your Geocities links have not been working for days. They say they will be >> up in an hour. With this break of yours, maybe you might find out what is >> happening with them. >> Good luck. >> > > Works when I click on the link. > > > Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:35:40 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING?, njc Don't know whether this is real (legal disclaimer), but it sure is = funny. Laurent > > I was a Travel Agent for many years......and here are a few = memories: > This is why we're in trouble . . . here in the good old USA. > > I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that > her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. > > * ******************** > > I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to Cape = town. I > started to explain the length of the flight and the passport = information, > then she interrupted me with,"I'm not trying to make you look = stupid, but > Cape town is in Massachusetts." Without trying to make her look like = the > stupid one, I calmly explained, "Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, = Cape town > is in Africa." > Her response (click). > > * *************** > > A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package = we > did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he = was > expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that is not = possible,=20 > since > Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, "Don't lie to = me. I > looked on the map, and Florida is a very thin state!" > > * ****************** > > I got a call from a lawmaker's wife who asked, "Is it possible to = see > England from Canada?" I said, "No." She said "But they look so = close on=20 > the > map." > > * ****************************** > > An aide for a Bush cabinet member once called and asked if he could = rent > a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had = only a > 1-hour layover in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a = car, > he said, "I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car = to > drive between the gates to save time." > > * ************************ > > An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how = it was > possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:20 a.m. and got into = > Chicago > at 8:33 a.m. I tried to explain that Michigan was an hour ahead of > Illinois, but she could not understand the concept of time zones.=20 > Finally, > I told her the plane went very fast, and she bought that! > > * ************************ > Do airlines put description on your bag so they know whose luggage = belongs > to whom?" > I said, "No, why do you ask?" She replied, "Well, when I > checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said = > (FAT), > and I'm overweight; I think that is very rude?" After putting her on = hold > for a minute while I 'looked into it' (I was actually laughing). I = came=20 > back > and explained the city code for Fresno, CA is (FAT), and that the = airline > was just putting a destination tag on her luggage. > > * ************************ > > A Senator's aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii. = After > going over all the cost info, she asked, "Would it be cheaper to = fly to > California and then take the train to Hawaii?" > > * ********************** > > I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, "How = do > I know which plane to get on?" I asked him what exactly he meant, to > which he replied, "I was told my flight number is 823, but none of = these > darn planes have numbers on them." > > * ********************** > > A lady Senator called and said, "I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola, FL. = Do I > have to get on one of those little computer planes?" I asked if she = meant > fly to "Pensacola", FL > on a "commuter" plane. She said, "Yeah, whatever!" > > * ********************************** > > A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he = needed > in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about = passports, I > reminded him that he needed a visa. "Oh, no I don't. I've been to = China > many times and never had to have one of those." I double checked = and sure > enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, = "Look, > I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my=20 > American > Express!" > > * ********************** > > A New Mexico Congresswoman called to make reservations, "I want to = go > > from Chicago to Rhino, New York." The agent was at a loss for = words > Finally, the agent said, "Are you sure that's the name of the town?" > "Yes, what flights do you have?" replied the lady. > > After some searching, the agent came back with, "I'm sorry, ma'am, = I've > looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a Rhino > anywhere." The lady retorted, "Oh, don't be silly! Everyone = knows > where it is ."Check your map!" > The agent scoured a map of the state of New York and finally = offered, > "You don't mean Buffalo, do you?" > > "That's it! I knew it was a big animal," she said. > > * ********************** > > Now you know why Government is in the shape that it's in. Return-path: From: LEADOG@aol.com Full-name: LEADOG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:15:28 EDT Subject: Fwd: Fw: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING??????????? 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(Thanx Estelle) Message-ID: X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - ----------- Original Message ----------- From: Maurerlsrn@aol.com Sent To: kingn@iopener.net Subject: Fwd: Fw: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING??????????? (Thanx Estelle) Date Sent: 16 Jul 2005 06:18 PM - ----------- Original Message ----------- From: "Abe Maurer" Sent To: "Ken Maurer" , "Ron Maurer" , "Larry Raful" , "bruce raful" Subject: Fw: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING??????????? (Thanx Estelle) Date Sent: 13 Jul 2005 10:53 PM these are real funny... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Werlin" To: "Humor" Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: FW: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING??????????? (Thanx Estelle) > > > Subject: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING??????????? > > I was a Travel Agent for many years......and here are a few memories: > This is why we're in trouble . . . here in the good old USA. > > I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that > her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. > > * ******************** > > I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to Cape town. I > started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, > then she interrupted me with,"I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but > Cape town is in Massachusetts." Without trying to make her look like the > stupid one, I calmly explained, "Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Cape town > is in Africa." > Her response (click). > > * *************** > > A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we > did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was > expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that is not possible, > since > Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, "Don't lie to me. I > looked on the map, and Florida is a very thin state!" > > * ****************** > > I got a call from a lawmaker's wife who asked, "Is it possible to see > England from Canada?" I said, "No." She said "But they look so close on > the > map." > > * ****************************** > > An aide for a Bush cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent > a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a > 1-hour layover in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, > he said, "I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to > drive between the gates to save time." > > * ************************ > > An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was > possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:20 a.m. and got into > Chicago > at 8:33 a.m. I tried to explain that Michigan was an hour ahead of > Illinois, but she could not understand the concept of time zones. > Finally, > I told her the plane went very fast, and she bought that! > > * ************************ > Do airlines put description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs > to whom?" > I said, "No, why do you ask?" She replied, "Well, when I > checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said > (FAT), > and I'm overweight; I think that is very rude?" After putting her on hold > for a minute while I 'looked into it' (I was actually laughing). I came > back > and explained the city code for Fresno, CA is (FAT), and that the airline > was just putting a destination tag on her luggage. > > * ************************ > > A Senator's aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii. After > going over all the cost info, she asked, "Would it be cheaper to fly to > California and then take the train to Hawaii?" > > * ********************** > > I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, "How do > I know which plane to get on?" I asked him what exactly he meant, to > which he replied, "I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these > darn planes have numbers on them." > > * ********************** > > A lady Senator called and said, "I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola, FL. Do I > have to get on one of those little computer planes?" I asked if she meant > fly to "Pensacola", FL > on a "commuter" plane. She said, "Yeah, whatever!" > > * ********************************** > > A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he needed > in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about passports, I > reminded him that he needed a visa. "Oh, no I don't. I've been to China > many times and never had to have one of those." I double checked and sure > enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, "Look, > I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my > American > Express!" > > * ********************** > > A New Mexico Congresswoman called to make reservations, "I want to go > > from Chicago to Rhino, New York." The agent was at a loss for words > Finally, the agent said, "Are you sure that's the name of the town?" > "Yes, what flights do you have?" replied the lady. > > After some searching, the agent came back with, "I'm sorry, ma'am, I've > looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a Rhino > anywhere." The lady retorted, "Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows > where it is ."Check your map!" > The agent scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, > "You don't mean Buffalo, do you?" > > "That's it! I knew it was a big animal," she said. > > * ********************** > > Now you know why Government is in the shape that it's in. > > > > > > - --------- End Original Message --------- - --------- End Original Message --------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:49:37 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: WHAT WERE THE VOTERS THINKING?, njc Yeah, and President Bush though Kaiser Aluminum was the president of Germany. ba-ta-BUM...but seriously folks.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:45:04 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: But soft! Joni speaks! Dear Joniamigos: Joni spoke, and Laura wrote: - -- It was particularly thought provoking to me where she says, "The irony is that the line "I dreamed I saw the bombers riding shotgun in the sky/and they were turning into butterflies above our nation" has been taken as girly and silly and too idealistic. But the point of it is, we've got to do that - -- if we don't we're done." I hope there is a very feminine president on the next ticket. --- YES! YES! I could drink a case of you to THAT! Quelle synchro for me here, because just yesterday I was having a spirited debate in cyberspace with three male friends. I gently and respectfully opined that we need more women in politics and government, and they retorted with Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher as examples, and reminded me that not all women are necessarily pacifists. Okay. Sigh. What I *meant* to say is that we need more feminine PERSPECTIVES out there when creating policy and dealing with the world's many problems. C'est tout. Every picture has its shadows And it has some source of light Blindness blindness and sight I send up my prayer for new sight to overcome the blindness of some of our world leaders, and for a new light to dawn and prevail. Joni may not be singing or performing anymore, but she is still getting the word out, one way or another. And for that, I am glad and grateful. Of course some may wonder "who is there to hear?" I think that's where WE come in. It is OUR job to spread the word and speak out for peace. Vive la Joan! Love to all, Patti P. "Another Mother for Peace" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:15:27 EDT From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Re: But soft! Joni speaks! In a message dated 7/25/2005 4:50:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: Okay. Sigh. What I *meant* to say is that we need more feminine PERSPECTIVES out there when creating policy and dealing with the world's many problems. Your not alone. Quoting Desmond Tutu in pertinent part: 'WOMEN SHOULD RULE THE WORLD' - Desmond Tutu suggests a "feminine revolution" takes place "Some of the best initiatives are those that occur because women are involved... It is almost a tacit acknowledgment of the crucial role that women play in nurturing, nurturing life," said Tutu in his tribute to women a day after Women's Day. Tutu, who was seemingly mentally spurred on by Cape Town's sobriquet "Mother City", said that men had been given centuries to rule the world, but "have made a heck of a mess of things". Tutu said the revolution he referred was one of women who were not afraid to be feminine, and who did not ape men in, for example, the stereotypical aggression. "This revolution... is the last, best chance for making this globe hospitable to peace, to make this globe hospitable to compassion, hospitable to generosity and caring," he said. [_More_ (http://www.gardenroute.org.za/main/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30 99) ] - - - - Here's a snippet found on the Internet: " ... A billionaire media baron has taken a step to demonstrate his belief that women should run the world because men have "mucked it up" with too much warfare and military spending. The United Nations Foundation Ted Turner established six years ago to distribute the #1 billion he pledged to UN causes has a new female-dominated board of directors. "I've said for years and I'm really serious about it, I think men should be barred from holding public office for 100 years. The men have been running the world for too long and they've made a mess of it. ..." Let's see if Joni will do it or perhaps how about Oprah. She has enough money that special interest groups will find it difficult to buy her vote, eh? Cheers, Mona Mona A. Fitzgerald, JD Windsor, CT 06095 USA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:46:55 -0400 From: BWORKMAN@woh.rr.com Subject: Re: Carole King 'The Living Room Tour' njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Scott Date: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:03 pm Subject: Carole King 'The Living Room Tour' njc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > > > Pleasant Valley Sunday was one of the three best > > songs Carole King ever penned, > > Speaking of which, I notice this song is on Carole King's latest > release > 'The Living Room Tour'. Does anyone have this cd? Any opinions > about it? > I noticed Louise Goffin performs with Carole on one cut. > > Mark E. in Seattle > I was expecting magic and got ho hum instead. PVS is one of the best songs. She sings the sax part on jazz man. EWHHHH Fauchja ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc And he also gives a nod to them in the (awful) Wings song, "Let 'em In" when he sings "Phil & Don". Bob NP: Dire Straits, Once Upon A Time In The West" "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: Paul is a HUGE fan of The Everly Brothers, and wrote Wings of a Nightengale for them. Jerry Lori Fye wrote: >> If you could see Paul McCartney fill in for one of the Everly Brothers >> in > a free show, would you go? > > No. Never could stand the Everly Brothers, and Paul filling in for one of > them wouldn't make it any better, even if it were free. > > Lori - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:59:03 -0400 From: LesIrvin@jmdl.com Subject: New Library addition: 'The Underdog Meets Joni Mitchell: Charles Mingus Finds a New Voice' The following has been recently added to the JMDL Library: Title: The Underdog Meets Joni Mitchell: Charles Mingus Finds a New Voice Publication: Rolling Stone Date: 1978-12-28 Type: Interview Find it here under "Most recent additions...": http://jmdl.com/library ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:22:15 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: But soft! Joni speaks! Look at Jane! Go Jane, go! Stop Dick. Help Jane, Sally! Help Jane stop Dick! - -Julius ____ Actress Fonda Plans to Speak Out on Iraq AP Jane Fonda expects to start her anti-war bus tour in March. Talk About It: Post Thoughts SANTA FE, N.M. (July 25) - Actress and activist Jane Fonda says she intends to take a cross-country bus tour to call for an end to U.S. military operations in Iraq. "I can't go into any detail except to say that it's going to be pretty exciting,'' she said. Fonda said her anti-war tour in March will use a bus that runs on "vegetable oil.'' She will be joined by families of Iraq war veterans and her daughter. They plan to return to the Santa Fe area, where she was promoting her book, "My Life So Far'' on Saturday. Prompted by a question from the audience, Fonda said war veterans that she has met on a nationwide book tour have encouraged her to break her silence on the Iraq war. "I've decided I'm coming out,'' she said. Hundreds of people in the audience cheered loudly when Fonda announced her intentions to join the anti-Iraq war movement. "I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam,'' she said. "I carry a lot of baggage from that.'' Fonda incited controversy in July 1972 when she was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun while on a tour of the country to drum up support to end the war. 07/25/05 09:03 EDT - -----Original Message----- From: Monafitz@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:15:27 EDT Subject: Re: But soft! Joni speaks! In a message dated 7/25/2005 4:50:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: Okay. Sigh. What I *meant* to say is that we need more feminine PERSPECTIVES out there when creating policy and dealing with the world's many problems. Your not alone. Quoting Desmond Tutu in pertinent part: 'WOMEN SHOULD RULE THE WORLD' - Desmond Tutu suggests a "feminine revolution" takes place "Some of the best initiatives are those that occur because women are involved... It is almost a tacit acknowledgment of the crucial role that women play in nurturing, nurturing life," said Tutu in his tribute to women a day after Women's Day. Tutu, who was seemingly mentally spurred on by Cape Town's sobriquet "Mother City", said that men had been given centuries to rule the world, but "have made a heck of a mess of things". Tutu said the revolution he referred was one of women who were not afraid to be feminine, and who did not ape men in, for example, the stereotypical aggression. "This revolution... is the last, best chance for making this globe hospitable to peace, to make this globe hospitable to compassion, hospitable to generosity and caring," he said. [_More_ (http://www.gardenroute.org.za/main/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30 99) ] - - - - Here's a snippet found on the Internet: " ... A billionaire media baron has taken a step to demonstrate his belief that women should run the world because men have "mucked it up" with too much warfare and military spending. The United Nations Foundation Ted Turner established six years ago to distribute the #1 billion he pledged to UN causes has a new female-dominated board of directors. "I've said for years and I'm really serious about it, I think men should be barred from holding public office for 100 years. The men have been running the world for too long and they've made a mess of it. ..." Let's see if Joni will do it or perhaps how about Oprah. She has enough money that special interest groups will find it difficult to buy her vote, eh? Cheers, Mona Mona A. Fitzgerald, JD Windsor, CT 06095 USA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc agreed it was an awful song, but for me at the time it was kinda good, because I went out of my way to learn what-all he was referring to. Not a "gimme" at the age I was, when that one came out. Kinda like that song "Life is a rock but the radio rolled me". It was really fascinating to me at the time, like a wonderous playground, learning what the *f* they meant. Durng the disco days I was desperate to chew on anything with some R&R history to it. :) Em < wrote: > And he also gives a nod to them in the (awful) Wings song, "Let 'em > In" when he sings "Phil & Don". > > Bob > > NP: Dire Straits, Once Upon A Time In The West" > > "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > Paul is a HUGE fan of The Everly Brothers, and wrote Wings of a > Nightengale for them. > > Jerry > > Lori Fye wrote: > >> If you could see Paul McCartney fill in for one of the Everly > Brothers > >> in > > a free show, would you go? > > > > No. Never could stand the Everly Brothers, and Paul filling in for > one of > > them wouldn't make it any better, even if it were free. > > > > Lori > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:15:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc Good point, Em - and another example is maybe Billy J's "We Didn't Start The Fire" (not as bad as 'Let em in' but still far from his best) with all of its cultural/historical references. Better still, REM's "It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" which manages to be a kickass GREAT song and have all those references and "what did he say" moments. Or, maybe you just like "Let 'em In" because your name is in the title. Get it? Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk... Bob NP: King Crimson, "Eyes Wide Open" - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: If you could turn back time, njc Bob suggested: > Or, maybe you just like "Let 'em In" because your name is in the > title. Get it? Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk... no Bob! thats not it! LOL, yep I *get it*..its amazing all the action " 'em" gets! As far as the REM song "Its the end of the world" YES! YES YES! and I adore that whole album! Was that 'Document"? or may it was "Life's Rich Pageant"? nah, "Document" I think.....the last couple of theirs on IRS label I think? GOOOOOOOOD stuffffffff. The whole album..whichever one it is. I fergits which... :) 'em ps: sorry to be so grammatically out of it these days; hey I hang out on biker lists - trust me - IT COULD BE WORSE! lol.... - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > good,> > > Good point, Em - and another example is maybe Billy J's "We Didn't > Start The Fire" (not as bad as 'Let em in' but still far from his > best) with all of its cultural/historical references. Better still, > REM's "It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" > which manages to be a kickass GREAT song and have all those > references and "what did he say" moments. > > Or, maybe you just like "Let 'em In" because your name is in the > title. Get it? Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk... > > Bob > > NP: King Crimson, "Eyes Wide Open" > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #290 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)