From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #283 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, July 20 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 283 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #206 [ROBMSTEEN@aol.com] Re: Horns/Woodwinds Dominated Songs [Patti Witten ] Re: Horns/Woodwinds Dominated Songs ["Michael Flaherty" ] Joni appearance in a poem for children ["rflynn@frontiernet.net" ] re WOTW NJC [Lucy Hone ] Re: New Library addition: 'Mitchell's not a prophet but 'a witness to my time... [Dflah] Re: re WOTW NJC [Jamie Zubairi ] Aimee Mann SJC [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: New Library addition: 'Mitchell's not a prophet but 'a witness to my time... [Catherine McKay ] Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC [Jamie Zubairi] Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC [mags h ] Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC [mags h ] Re: Yippee (njc) [hell@ihug.co.nz] Re: Boomers vs the Silent Generation -- njc [Randy Remote ] Re: A male Joni Mitchell [Catherine McKay ] Ebay seller on DJRD ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Ellis Paul, sjc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: remembering Full Moon - NJC- and France [Michael Paz Subject: Re: Horns/Woodwinds Dominated Songs Like Mark and Bob, the first ones that came to my mind were Down To You (For The Roses) The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines (Mingus) Patti - -- Patti Witten on I-Town Records www.itownrecords.com MySpace http://myspace.com/pattiwitten http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:42:59 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Horns/Woodwinds Dominated Songs On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:06:08 -0400 Patti Witten wrote: > Like Mark and Bob, the first ones that came to my mind >were > > Down To You (For The Roses) Umm ... Court + Spark, actually. That and virtually all of Michael's playing on S+L would probably be my picks. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:34:05 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Christian Bale njc Hi Zoob! I heard about this movie and how much weight he lost for the part. It reminds me of Robert DeNiro gaining so much weight for "Raging Bull". What dedication to one's craft! I became a fan of Christian Bale's after watching the futuristic flick "Equilibrium". My husband and I think that those fight scenes rivaled those of "The Matrix" trilogy. They were very original. In fact the whole concept of the movie was very thought provoking. I also like Christian Bale because of his choices of roles. He always seems to be able to haunt the viewer in some way. Sherelle Has anyone seen 'The Machinist'? starring the current Batman Begins actor Christian Bale (while we were on the subject of multi-million dollar flicks). Very disturbing and stuck in my head long after the film ended than his current outing... No thunderbolts or lightning just really disturbing film about the nature of paranoia and guilt... And Mr Bale is HORRIFICALLY emaciated (sp?) as he lost lots of weight for the film... you'd need to see Batman Begins straight after just to remind yourself that they are only films... and he's only an actor and is healthy and alive... Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:14:43 -0400 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Joni appearance in a poem for children At the children's literature symposium and institute I'm teaching, we are reading a book by African-American children's poet Jaime Adoff (son of Arnold Adoff and Virginia Hamilton), and I thought I'd share the poem in which Joni makes and appearance alongside other tasty musicians. Heads-up, Smurf! Todays specials I start the day with my music buffet: Morning fuel burnscool jazz jams on buttered toast. Hot salsa floats over everything I eat and drink in the song. So much to choose from, cant pick just one. Fresh Squeezed Tina Turnertastes so smooth. Add a stack of Marvin Gayeout the door to school. Grab my James Brown bag lunch, Ready for my funk. Trade my bologna for your Joni Mitchell mashed. Wash it down with a tall glass of Beatle juicestir with Ice Cube Ahhhhh.. On the bus home, the snack formerly known as Twinkie is singing its sweet cream melody into my mouth. As the song: booms and bumps and grooves and funks and rocks and rolls and tastes so good. from The Song Shoots Out of My Mouth: A Celebration of Music, by Jaime Adoff New York: Dutton Childrens Books, 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:39:33 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Horns/Woodwinds Dominated Songs For me? The bop-fueled version of "Dry Cleaner From Des Moines" on "Shadows and Light". I also like the live version of "Real Good, For Free" in the "Refuge of the Roads" DVD. There are some surprises on that track. On vacation and loving it, Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY, USA >What are your favorite songs from Joni that have horns/woodwinds? From the 3 albums I have of her (C&S, FTR, Blue), I think she makes a great use of brass.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:51:25 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, love from both sides now Dear Joniamigos: I have been so touched by the "passing on" stories of Marianne and Lucy and Bo. Wow. And then I read Mags' beautiful and loving advice here (affirmed and applauded by Richard): - -------------------------- Many great kids books to recommend; I especially loved all of my daughter's growing up years where I experienced the great joy of revisiting many of my old characters and stories; a chance to relive and reread many favourite books all over again, through fresh eyes. I remember reading Anne of Green Gables to Miranda; every word, precious. For those of you with children, hold them close to your heart, always. You just never know when they will need to draw upon all those years of the love you give; so be mindful when she/ he is counting on you. love, Mags - ------------------------- And then, double wow, both sides now Joni-wow, I saw this story on NBC news last night. Love is a story told, from Connecticut, a story about undying love: - ----------------------- Dying mom shares lifes lessons Creates foundation to encourage reading to children  Cancer victim leaving legacy for daughter July 18: A mother dying of breast cancer doesn't want to leave her daughter without a legacy. So she created a foundation called Light One Little Candle. NBC's Mike Taibbi reports. Nightly News Mike Taibbi Correspondent WEST HARTFORD, Conn. - In a Connecticut living room, a mother and daughter dance against a backdrop of family history and the mother's hopes for her child  in notes, tapes, books, cards, CDs and so many photos. Why? Because how much will Halle Pauporte actually remember from age 3? Will she remember what she did? What she learned? Who taught her? And who made her smile? Halle's mother, Joelle, is  there's no other way to say it  in end-stage breast cancer. "The percentages went from 80 to 70 to 20 to now... zero," says Joelle. But when she got her diagnosis two years ago she continued reading to Halle. "Because that was something I could do, cause it was quiet," she says. She began writing, too. A thousand margin notes, and cards, and intimate reminders. And then she thought, "Why not give this to other people as a way of connecting, keeping a bond with their children when everything else is falling apart?" Hence, the "Light One Little Candle" foundation, a book drive spreading nationwide for the thousands of parents and children in cancer's grip. Not books about dealing with cancer, and death ... just books. It's a different approach, says Joelle's daughter. "The legacy that she leaves is not just for her child, but for all of us," says Dr. Andrew Salner with the Helen and Harry Gray Cancer Center at Hartford Hospital. ( Related content Visit the Web site of Light One Little Candle http://www.lightonelittlecandle.org/ ) Joelle has not surrendered yet. She fills her days compiling cards for every occasion in a girl's life. Things like: Advice  "Please, no tattoos!"; favorite singers and movies and books; and detailed journals on paper and on video. "Don't let Daddy skimp out on you if you get married, on your wedding video. Go all out," she says on one of the videos. She knows all this will likely be too much for Halle to ingest, perhaps for decades. But Joelle, a psychiatrist, is only controlling what she can control: How she uses what time she has to anticipate any of her daughter's future questions. "I don't need to be in her daily thoughts. I just want her to have that stuff, to have the option," says Joelle. The decision about how much to give to Halle, and when, will be made by the rest of the family, especially husband Peppi, also a doctor. In the meantime, Joelle fills her days with Halle dancing and sharing this life. - ----------- What a wonderful woman, giving such pure love from both sides now -- a lesson in survival. And now please forgive me for the emotional overload, but I think Mags' wise words bear repeating here, like a refrain: "For those of you with children, hold them close to your heart, always. You just never know when they will need to draw upon all those years of the love you give; so be mindful when she/ he is counting on you." With a tear in my eye, on the 19th of July, Patti P. P.S. Who said we're all so deep and superficial? Sometimes I wish I COULD be superficial. Or cool. Life would be so much easier if I could just be cool -- fifty-fifty, fire and ice. NPIMH: different lyrics and songs all swirling together, "Love is Everything" (JS & kdL), "Why does love have to be so sad?" (ABB), "Both Sides Now" (JM), ".....Love must stand, love forever and ever must stand...." (JT), and you know......... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:00:55 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: re WOTW NJC NO I have not seen either The Machinist or the War of the Worlds but I have seen a lovely little set of idents for Maltesers the other day......on the Telly and they were great...really funny and they were mentioned in the office today by someone........ I wonder who that great looking guy is ............... Love and hugs and lots of things that are good to you all lucy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:50:10 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: New Library addition: 'Mitchell's not a prophet but 'a witness to my time... In a message dated 7/18/2005 11:54:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LesIrvin@jmdl.com writes: http://jmdl.com/library Well, I read the article (from '88) and I saw the claim that "CHALK MARK is her most ambitious album to date." Why? Because it had some "big names" on it? She's more creative, productive and significant than all those people (and the Kawasakis they rode in on) combined. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:13:24 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: re WOTW NJC hee hee! I'm curious to know what they had said in your office... I've heard some people say the odd thing (they liked them but they didn't realise it was for Maltesers) but it's been mainly my friends. Have yet to see WOTW and have heard mix reviews from people about it... It's an evening viewing thing Much Joni Still Warm, Still Summer Jamie Zoob - --- Lucy Hone wrote: > NO I have not seen either The Machinist or the War > of the Worlds but I > have seen a lovely little set of idents for > Maltesers the other > day......on the Telly and they were great...really > funny and they were > mentioned in the office today by someone........ > > I wonder who that great looking guy is > ............... > > Love and hugs and lots of things that are good to > you all > > lucy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:22:17 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Aimee Mann SJC I went to see Aimee Mann on Sunday at the Shpherd's Bush Empire and boy is she amazing. Just a great believer in her songs. Great set from 'The Forgotten Arm' and from the Magnolia soundtrack and Bachelor No 2 and some earlier songs. I took loads of pictures of the gig with my digicam and she really looks like C&S period Joni, just with shorter hair. I'll set some pictures up to my yahoo shortly just to see what everyone thinks... Much Joni Jamie Zoob ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Library addition: 'Mitchell's not a prophet but 'a witness to my time... - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/18/2005 11:54:57 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > LesIrvin@jmdl.com writes: > > http://jmdl.com/library > > > Well, I read the article (from '88) and I saw the > claim that "CHALK MARK is > her most ambitious album to date." Why? Because it > had some "big names" on > it? She's more creative, productive and significant > than all those people (and > the Kawasakis they rode in on) combined. > > I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. > I suspect someone was quoting directly from the press release. That stood out for me too (like a sore thumb.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:51:11 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni in new film documentary - ALL WE ARE SAYING Joni is appearing in Roseanna Arquette's new film documentary, ALL WE ARE SAYING See clips here that include Joni who is one of the featured artists: http://www.allwearesaying.net/ "All We Are Saying is a compelling, personal look at what makes musicians tick. Rosanna Arquette follows up her critically acclaimed documentary directorial debut, Searching for Debra Winger, with a look into the psyches of some of the top musical artists of the day. Through a series of intimate conversations, over fifty musical legends, hot new artists and music industry insiders reveal what inspires them, their personal struggles of balancing relationships and family while working on the road and the state of the music business in the 21 st Century. Presented as an ongoing, casual conversation, the film offers a unique insight into the artists most candid and personal thoughts. All We Are Saying is a new powerhouse documentary by acclaimed actor and director Rosanna Arquette. The film is a compilation of thousands of hours of footage from in-depth personal interviews with some of the greatest icons in music history. In trusting Rosanna, these artists reveal their personal journeys in business and in life. You will hear Chrissie Hynde talk about wearing a nursing bra on stage to Flea discussing why downloading isn't a problem for him. The film takes the usual behind-the-curtain exposi to an entirely new level, revealing the deep truths about the people we often don't hear from." The August music issue of INTERVIEW magazine (also has a 4 page interview with Joni along with 3 black/white full-page pictures) has an interview with Rosanna Arquette with Joni content. This is the magazine's website: http://www.interviewmagazine.com/ ************************************** Rosanna Arquette has always had a passion for rock music - and musicians have loved her right back, so much so that '80s pop superstars Peter Gabriel and Toto even immortalized her in song not once, but twice. ("In Your Eyes" and "Rosanna," respectively). now, in Arquette's forthcoming documentary, ALL WE ARE SAYING, she commits her love of rock to the screen. In the film Steven Tyler, Thom Yorke, Chrissie Hynde, and Stevie Nicks, to name a few speak their minds with startling candor about the current state of the music business and balancing their art and their personal lives. Here, she speaks to another of the film's subjects, her friend, singer-songwriter Shelby Lynne. SL: Hi, Rosanna! RA: Hi! Thanks so much for your record - it's really beautiful, as usual. SL: Thank you. And I love your movie! I loved that part when you were talking to Joni Mitchell, saying how upset you were about her not making records anymore. RA: It's a drag, isn't it? And the reason she doesn't has nothing to do with the music - it's just the business. That's the thing that seems to stand in everybody's way. SL: It's the same with putting out a cool documentary - you've got to find somebody on the business side who can see your vision. .........SL: Sometimes musicians get a rap for being bitter or not very nice. RA: I think people try to say that about Joni, but if you really hear what she's talking about, it all makes sense. And she's not saying anything that anyone in the arts doesn't feel - because it sucks these days. SL: How do you think artists should handle taking a stand on politics or things they feel are just flat out wrong? RA: You have the perfect place to put that passion - in your music, which I think is really great. you just sing what you believe in, and you put it out there in your songs. That's what Dylan did. That's what all the great artists have done - John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills & Nash. These are the people that worked for their beliefs and put it in their music. Music used to change people's minds - and it still changes mine. *************************************************** Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:06:39 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni Interviewed by Camille Paglia in INTERVIEW magazine - August Issue FYI: The new August INTERVIEW magazine, The Music Issue, has a 4 page interview with Joni along with three black/white full-page pictures. (Pgs 112-117 and continued on 140) http://www.interviewmagazine.com/ Pete Doherty is on the cover of the August 2005 issue. The Contents page reads as follows: THE TRAILBLAZER INTERVIEW Joni Mitchell By Camille Paglia In a time when pop music told the story of the age, she fought for poetry against practicality, showing a generation of artists how a few well-chosen chords and some fortuitously arranged words could change not just the landscape of music but also the world. ****************************************************** I'll attempt to type out the interview later. Laura ****************************************************** There's also an interview in this same issue with Rosanna Arquette (a BIG Joni fan) by Shelby Lynne (pg 64 & 65) 'with her new documentary exploring musicians' lives, actress and filmmaker Rosanna Arquette has fashioned a love song to one of her great passions - Rock 'N' Roll." ~~see some info here: http://www.allwearesaying.net/ or http://www.tribecafilmfestival.org/tixSYS/filmguide/eventnote.php?EventNumber=3101&FullNote=1 or http://babellist.xnet2.com/0503/msg00013.html Rosanna Arquette has always had a passion for rock music - and musicians have loved her right back, so much so that '80s pop superstars Peter Gabriel and Toto even immortalized her in song not once, but twice. ("In Your Eyes" and "Rosanna," respectively). now, in Arquette's forthcoming documentary, ALL WE ARE SAYING, she commits her love of rock to the screen. In the film Steven Tyler, Thom Yorke, Chrissie Hynde, and Stevie Nicks, to name a few speak their minds with startling candor about the current state of the music business and balancing their art and their personal lives. Here, she speaks to another of the film's subjects, her friend, singer-songwriter Shelby Lynne. SL: Hi, Rosanna! RA: Hi! Thanks so much for your record - it's really beautiful, as usual. SL: Thank you. And I love your movie! I loved that part when you were talking to Joni Mitchell, saying how upset you were about her not making records anymore. RA: It's a drag, isn't it? And the reason she doesn't has nothing to do with the music - it's just the business. That's the thing that seems to stand in everybody's way. SL: It's the same with putting out a cool documentary - you've got to find somebody on the business side who can see your vision.............. SL: Sometimes musicians get a rap for being bitter or not very nice. RA: I think people try to say that about Joni, but if you really hear what she's talking about, it all makes sense. And she's not saying anything that anyone in the arts doesn't feel - because it sucks these days. SL: How do you think artists should handle taking a stand on politics or things they feel are just flat out wrong? RA: You have the perfect place to put that passion - in your music, which I think is really great. you just sing what you believe in, and you put it out there in your songs. That's what Dylan did. That's what all the great artists have done - John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills & Nash. These are the people that worked for their beliefs and put it in their music. Music used to change people's minds - and it still changes mine........................................ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:09:21 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Financial Times mentions JM, njc now really I'd agree with the exception of Bruce Springsteen. For me, he's "old school" in exactly the same way Dylan, Prine, and Mitchell are. Springsteen picked up Woody Guthrie's populist torch, refueled it from today's headlines, and carried it further for several decades. Sincerely, Jim L'Hommedieu Mr. Lahm said, >From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Financial Times mentions JM The weekend Financial Times had a column by Peter Aspden-On Culture casting a cool eye on the quality of music heard at Live8. It included this: "When did the significant pop/rock lyric die? It was famously forged in the 1960s, on the anvil of a rich and vital folk tradition, and was in good condition for most of the 1970s, from the ravishing poetry of Joni Mitchell's Hejira in mid-decade, to the three-minute menace of the early Clash at its end. We began to see a palpable decline in the 1980s, when the yearning for significance began to become embarrassing." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:27:42 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Financial Times mentions JM, njc now really > I'd agree with the exception of Bruce Springsteen. For me, he's "old > school" in exactly the same way Dylan, Prine, and Mitchell are. BTW, I'm reading Dylan's Chronicles. Devouring them is more like it. I'd recommend them to everyone, especially those who are interested in the Village/Van Ronk scene of the early sixties. Who Dylan liked and were his influences are very surprising. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:16:43 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Financial Times mentions JM, njc now really Jerry Notaro wrote: > > I'd agree with the exception of Bruce Springsteen. For me, he's "old > > school" in exactly the same way Dylan, Prine, and Mitchell are. > > BTW, I'm reading Dylan's Chronicles. Devouring them is more like it. I'd > recommend them to everyone, especially those who are interested in the > Village/Van Ronk scene of the early sixties. Who Dylan liked and were his > influences are very surprising. His passion for the tradition of folk music is crystal clear, as well. I would recommend it, too- fascinating and very well written. Re: the decline of the great lyricists/songwriters... I think part of it is that briefly in the 60's, the music business was still more about music than business. It's not like people stopped writing good stuff (although I do think the 60's was a renaissance period)-just easier to sell the flavor of the month. Now it's swung all the way to the business side, but there are still writers out there; Ani D, some of the rappers, or (fill in the blank). Maybe not the level of Dylan or Joni, but nobody was then, either... RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:17:05 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Fest dreaming, njc Chuck wrote: ....thinking about the booty?....yeah!....Why, with 5 million, we could endow JMDL, and Jonifest scholarships in perpetuity, promote music in schools, correct all the typos in 'The Complete Poems and Lyrics'......why, we could even buy Full Moon! Support worthy new artists, even old ones......I could go on. More later about NEJonifest, but briefly, I believe I'm experiencing that seasonal itch whereby we'd all be getting it together to Full Moon and celebrate whatever it is we do. ...a year may go by... I'll miss it, Hi Chuck, Just today I was thinking about Full Moon and dreaming and wondering when the next NE Jonifest might be. Good to read your dreams here!!! Hope others are dreaming of a NE fest too and that it happens. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:53:46 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Jonifest - NJC Laurent, can you update on who all the participants are? Bob, in the midst of the countdown... We've had a couple of last minute cancellations. Confirmed participants: Thierry Antoine, Strings, Chris Marshall, Martin Giles, Ashara Stanfield (& friend), Jamie Zubairi; Lucatello Adriano, Les Ross, Anita Gabrielle Tedder (& Stephanie), John Van Tiel & Claudia, Catherine Mc Kay (& kids); Guy Olinger, Garrett, Emiliano, Mike Pritchard, Lieve Reckers, Bob Muller + a few local friends Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:31:32 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC Hmmm...yeah, I don't think it's his 'acting' that interests her or the characters... more like the shower scene in that film that attracted her in the first place. I never knew his mother was American... Gloria Steinem... maybe that gives him that 'mannered' American voice... His career wouldn't be bad though... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- Smurf wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > > << Yes, a friend of mine has the misguided 'hots' > for him > and I was trying to get her to see this film to put > her off him... it didn't work GOD KNOWS WHY?!?!?!?! > - >> > > Maybe she should see him in "American Psycho" to > really get put off him. > > Jamie also said: > > > << I personally don't like his acting - it's very > mannered especially when he's doing an American > accent > - and he should be good at them since his first film > was a Spielberg - (Empire Of The Sun, aged 9 I > think) >> > > And his American mama, Gloria Steinem, might be able > to help him with the accent. > > --Smurf > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC hey is Gloria Steinem really his mother???????? oy veyzmir!!!!! as for american psycho..what a bizzarro film. sheesh. as for the weather, it's finally settled down, but that night of non stop strobe light lightning was something i wont soon forget, nor the hydro poles split in two, or the lions and tigers and bears... mags...on the move again yay Jamie Zubairi wrote: Hmmm...yeah, I don't think it's his 'acting' that interests her or the characters... more like the shower scene in that film that attracted her in the first place. I never knew his mother was American... Gloria Steinem... maybe that gives him that 'mannered' American voice... His career wouldn't be bad though... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- Smurf wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > > << Yes, a friend of mine has the misguided 'hots' > for him > and I was trying to get her to see this film to put > her off him... it didn't work GOD KNOWS WHY?!?!?!?! > - >> > > Maybe she should see him in "American Psycho" to > really get put off him. > > Jamie also said: > > > << I personally don't like his acting - it's very > mannered especially when he's doing an American > accent > - and he should be good at them since his first film > was a Spielberg - (Empire Of The Sun, aged 9 I > think) >> > > And his American mama, Gloria Steinem, might be able > to help him with the accent. > > --Smurf > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:01:51 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni in new film documentary - ALL WE ARE SAYING est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > Joni is appearing in Roseanna Arquette's new film documentary, ALL WE > ARE SAYING > > See clips here that include Joni who is one of the featured artists: > http://www.allwearesaying.net/ > This looks great-I can't wait to see it-but there is no info on how to do so... Besides the trailer there is another interview with Tina Brown that shows some different footage (but no new Joni-the main window has 2 brief glimpses of her-one in her garden(?) w/Rosanna and another defiantly smoking for the camera). Also a longer PBS interview (no add. footage) and a copy of Variety's review of the film (excrpt): "Bitterness and disillusionment about where the music business has gone are the order of the day, especially among the older artists. Mitchell, in virtual retirement, likens herself to an old horse that refuses to go over the jumps again, unwilling to run an increasingly hostile, aggressively dumb media gantlet. David Crosby compares his heyday -- and its 40 or 50 smaller record companies -- with the present handful of big conglomerates "who wouldn't know a song if it flew up their nose and died." Also, apparently this footage is the source of Crosby's quote that Britney Spears is "about as deep as a birdbath"-which appeared in Rolling Stone famously-must have been a year ago. Review dvds can be sent to: RR (address on request) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC About Christian Bale, Mags axed: > hey is Gloria Steinem really his mother???????? Um, no ... not really. She's his stepmother, married to Christian's Aussie rich-guy father, Someone Bale, who's famous -- I think -- in his own right. (Maybe for being rich and powerful in Australia.) Sorry to hear the sky was full of thunderrrrrrrrrr, Mags. The sky over Boston right now is getting ready to either downpour or thunder & lightning or some combo of both. - --Smurf ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Boomers vs the Silent Generation -- njc I have been doing a little research for a freelance writing assignment and I came across something I thought was very interesting, but I have never been aware of anyone discussing it before. In a nutshell: In the U.S., nearly 80 million Baby Boomers were born during the years 1946 to 1964. (Note: What's considered post WWII birth-boom years in other countries tends to vary slightly with regard to the beginning and end dates.) The generation before the Boomers is known among people who research this stuff as the Silent Generation. They were born (again, in the U.S.) between 1925 and 1945. (The gen before that, now popularly known in the U.S. as the Greatest Generation, is also known as the G.I. Generation.) The first U.S. Boomers will reach the age of 60 next year (that's 2006, for the extremely math challenged). My point? Most of the musicians we commonly think of as boomers are in fact from the previous generation. Anyone who is over 60 years old today -- or would have been, had he or she lived -- is a member of the Silent Generation, not the Boomers. This group includes just about everyone: Joni. All the Beatles, except for George. Janis. Jimi. Aretha. Lou Reed. Dylan. Ike and Tina Turner. CSN&Y. Ray Davies and perhaps the entire Kinks. The list goes on and on and on. What this all means, I don't know. (Don't trust anyone under 60?) But I thought it was worth mentioning in a kind of "Huh! I never really thought about that" way. - --Smurf, happy to report that Springsteen was born in 1949, three years in to the boom ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Re: War Of The Worlds, was "as natural as the weather" NJC hmm well then. not much to say about that, then, is there ;-) yea the skyes are so strange...i'm about to go out and watch the prairie skye fall in fact, today i heard that Las Vegas was 47C and that mexico is experiencing an early hurricane season. hey smurfy bro darling, hope your skyes are bad like ours have been yikes!!!... btw, how was the gathering of the clan? anyone see Motorcycle Diaries yet? yea, i know, it's been out for a while but i'm always running...behind the ............ OH....I had a wonderful Joni moment at work today..someone bought kdlangs cd, ranted on about her interpretation of case of you..."joni's best song" and gushed on about d.krall's version, then said he was planning to check out some of joan's jazzy stuff, and was going to get hejira and hissing next...way too cool mun. love , sistah magnolia . xx - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:37:05 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Yippee (njc) Hi gang, Good news today. No cancer. No need for surgery. Thought I'd let y'all know before I collapse from nervous exhaustion. Drinks on me, all around! Walt- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:39:55 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: A male Joni Mitchell The new issue of "Mojo Classic" is devoted entirely to Neil Young. A great read, with Joni content in more than one place as well. Therein, Joni finally gets her due for all those "female Bob Dylan" comments: "So, momentarily, in 1971, at his lifetime commercial peak, [Neil] seemed something of a male Joni Mitchell - despite his insistence that "She writes about her relationships so much more vividly I do." My my. Hey hey. Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:44:23 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Yippee (njc) Walt wrote: > Hi gang, > > Good news today. No cancer. No need for surgery. > Thought I'd let y'all know before I collapse from nervous > exhaustion. That's fantastic news, Walt! The "positive vibes" I've been sending your way must have done some good.... Hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:46:19 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Boomers vs the Silent Generation -- njc They sure made some great sounds for being so 'silent'. On the other hand, where would they have been if the boomers hadn't bought their music? Smurf wrote: > Most of the musicians we commonly think of as boomers > are in fact from the previous generation. Anyone who > is over 60 years old today -- or would have been, had > he or she lived -- is a member of the Silent > Generation, not the Boomers. > > This group includes just about everyone: Joni. All the > Beatles, except for George. Janis. Jimi. Aretha. Lou > Reed. Dylan. Ike and Tina Turner. CSN&Y. Ray Davies > and perhaps the entire Kinks. The list goes on and on > and on. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Yippee (njc) - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > Hi gang, > > Good news today. No cancer. No need for surgery. > Thought I'd let y'all know before I collapse from > nervous exhaustion. > > Drinks on me, all around! > YIPPEE is right! That is wonderful news, Walt! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:02:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A male Joni Mitchell - --- Les Irvin wrote: > Joni finally gets her due for all those > "female Bob Dylan" > comments: > > "So, momentarily, in 1971, at his lifetime > commercial peak, [Neil] seemed > something of a male Joni Mitchell - despite his > insistence that "She writes > about her relationships so much more vividly I do." > > My my. Hey hey. > LOL! Let's hear it for our side! I bet he throws like a girl, too! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:02:52 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Ebay seller on DJRD It sounds like one of us might have written the copy for this ebay auction. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu jazzhouse96 said, >Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is an extremely successful merger of her diverse influences. Some might argue that The Hissing Of Summer Lawns and Hejira are better, but the difference of quality is rather slim in any event. This album is certainly recommended to fans of progressive and jazz-fusion stylings, many of whom may not even be aware that this aspect of Joni Mitchell's career exists. The Hissing Of Summer Lawns and Hejira might be even better choices, but it would be hard to envision someone "going wrong" with this one. An added bonus is the astonishing bass playing of the late lamented Jaco Pastorious.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:27:42 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Ellis Paul, sjc Has anyone heard of this roots inspired singer-songwriter? I think he's from Beantown and is already signed to Rounder Records. Last night he did a short, free show for our well-loved singersongwriter radio station. He brought at least two 6 string guitars. He said, one of them "is what they call 'high strung'. It sounds a little like a mandolin, which is good, cause I sing pretty high." It looked like a miniature, a baby, like the Lowden O25c that Karin Berquist found. In one of his songs, his final wish is to have a jukebox at his grave. I guess an old Wurlitzer resembles a curved piece of marble from a distance, right? He'd like to have the masters at his uhmm... fingertips, eternally. He mentions a few by name, like Johnny Cash and some heavily hyphenated genius from SK. I'll pay to see him next time, sure. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:02:05 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: remembering Full Moon - NJC- and France Hi Chuck I was one of the stupid ones that asked for Full Moon to move to somewhere else and while I still like that idea there is no way I could have gone to France this summer. I would be really pissed if there was a Jonifest in NY and could not go. Maybe it's a good thing to have a break and maybe just maybe it will come back and raise it's heart up. In the meantime I wish everyone going to France JF a wonderful time. Don't forget to record! I will also take this chance to wish everyone on the list a great summer. I am leaving on Friday for 2 weeks in Honduras with my family. I don't know if I will have access or time for computer while I am there, but you all will be in my thoughts. Thanks again to everyone for your thoughts, prayers, cards. Letters, and amazing friendship. Special thanks to my best friend Julius who stands out like a ruby and is always there and so supportive. Love Paz Npimh-Esopus Creek Dreaming > It's just that time of year, I guess. There was an article in Saturday's > Boston Globe (dateline: Phoenicia, NY) about buried treasure in the > Catskills, on none other than Esopus Creek! > > It seems that back in the 20s-30's, or some time such, a New York hood > named Dutch Schultz became fearful of jail, and had buried 5 million in > a tin box, upstate somewhere near Esopus Creek . (Smurfy, could you > possibly > say 'Esopus' right here, in that voice you have? > > Anyway, for the uninitiated,, this creek , which is really more a > raging and famous > trout river, runs thru the back fields of the Full Moon Resort, where > we have > enjoyed a wonderful northeast Jonifest some several years running. > (more later) > > To think that Giselle might have been sitting on all that 'booty', a- > sittiing by the creek, > strumming and a-singin' 'Gimme the beat, boy' just makes me about pass > out! > ....thinking about the booty?....yeah!....Why, with 5 million, we could > endow JMDL, > and Jonifest scholarships in perpetuity, promote music in schools, > correct all the > typos in 'The Complete Poems and Lyrics'......why, we could even buy > Full Moon! > Support worthy new artists, even old ones......I could go on. > > More later about NEJonifest, but briefly, I believe I'm experiencing > that seasonal itch > whereby we'd all be getting it together to Full Moon and celebrate > whatever it is we do. > ...a year may go by... > > I'll miss it, and I wish all the magic go to France this year, as the > Olympic torch gets > shared around the planet. They (Olympiad) may have been first; surely > greater > in scale, but certainly not any greater in heart. (and we don't use no > steroids) > > Here's to FranceJonifest!! > > Chuck Eisenhardt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:12:05 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Thanks again, and a suspicious (or rare?) 3-CD set Hi, All, Thanks again to all for all the strong positive vibes you've been sending me all week. To celebrate a little, I went snooping around on Froogle for Jonialia -- and found reference to a 3-CD set "new and unopened" that consisited of WTRF, DED, and CMIARS. Hmmm... sure sounds like Geffen-box-minus-one to me. Could there have been an obscure European or Down-Under release that didn't include NRH for some reason? Anyone heard of this set before? The site, btw, was called MusicStack.com, more of a clearing house than a store. I also stumbled on a nifty UK site called eil.com which also has some nifty, if pricey rarities. Good night, all. Boy, am I going to sleep tonight! xox, walt-- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in meeil.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #283 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)