From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #273 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 11 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 273 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- shameless self promotion NJC [Lucy Hone ] Re: loggins & messina NJC [Bob Muller ] Crawl Back Under the Covers...and dream Flat Tires! [Bob Muller ] RE: loggins & messina NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Thoughts and Shameless Self Promotion NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni on Studio 360 ["Les Irvin" ] RE: London NJC, now 'fox news: fans of terrorism' ["patrick leader" ] njc, another mother for peace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, Marianne's peace and love and harmony project ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NjC Lila Downs [mags h ] Re: njc, another mother for peace ["Mark Scott" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:10:13 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: shameless self promotion NJC JAMIE............... >From: Jamie Zubairi >To: Joni JMDL >Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:41:44 +0100 (BST) >Subject: Thoughts and Shameless Self Promotion NJC > > Hello All > >.... > >Anyway, if I haven't offended anyone by that, here's a >link to my commercial. The production company have >uploaded it to their website. You need to click on the >'Lighter Ways' commercial. > >http://vital-productions.com/vital-productions-london.php > They are sooooooo funny Oh thank you for making my Sunday morning gigglesome. I had a gay friend live with me for almost 2 years and he and I had so many moments like that. VEry very funny, particularly the chess..... Alex would get huffy if whoever he was playing was going to win and he would "accidently" knock the board over....... Brilliant I shall look forward to them Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: loggins & messina NJC It looks like the show they were going to play in Greenville got canceled. :~( L&M were a big part of my musical growth, their album Mother Lode remains in my top ten of all time, and there are several others (Full Sail, Sittin' In, Native Sons, Loggins & Messina) that I enjoy immensely to this day. While I enjoyed Kenny's earlier solo releases, I always felt the whole of L&M was greater than the sum of its parts. I'm sure the shows will be a smash, hopefully they have their entire talent-laden band behind them so you'll get all those stellar horn and string accents. Bob NP: Robert Earl Keen, "4th of July" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Crawl Back Under the Covers...and dream Flat Tires! Hi all, I'm back from the coast - had a great time relaxing with family, and even though we had internet access I decided to pretty much unplug from everything, TV, news, email, etc. Really got back to the garden, but it's good to be back at home as always. Of course my heart goes out to all of you in London, and it proves (sadly, once again) that anyone who thinks that Bush's phony war in Iraq is defeating terrorism is only kidding themselves. But enough about that...this weekend's cover is a REAL gem, it was waiting on my doorstep when I returned - a MOST EXCELLENT cover of "You Dream Flat Tires" by Canadian Jazz Singer Jennifer Scott: Regular link (for all web browsers): http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PUXJNLFDJ63B0ZQJLW0AWE09E Enjoy! If you're not a fan of this great Joni song (I am and always have been) you just might be when you hear this take on it. Peace, Bob NP: Mike Chappelear, "Satellite Of Love" (Lou Reed cover) - --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:55:18 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: NjC Lila Downs Just a short report on Lila Downs, la maravillosa mujer, who played here to a packed, throbbing crowd on Friday night. She opened the show with the statement that the show was dedicated to women everywhere working for integrity and respect. She bounced onto the stage in a beautiful costume of green satin and fuschia velvet, lots of hippy-gypsy jewelry and braided pigtails that hung down her back. An incredibly energetic and dramatic performer, Lila had us all in the palm of her hand, with her playful stage presence, gorgeous, powerful voice and self assurance. She had five musicians with her, including a fellow from Mexico on harp, who played like the devil. Catch her in WPeg on Jly 10 (Mags?), Santa Cruz July13, SF July 14, LA july 16, San Diego on the 18th, NYC on the 31. Not to be missed. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ MSN. Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:16:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: loggins & messina NJC Bob >hopefully they have their entire talent-laden band behind them so you'll get all those stellar horn and string accents.< Yes they have the horns as well as an amazing fiddle & dobro player. too bad they cancelled that show bob, looks like the closest they get to you is Atlanta. perhaps, if this tour is successful (they are both indie artists now so I am not sure who is funding this) they will do more shows & get to SC. Eric>>I wanted to see them since Full Sail but it never worked out. I hope to see them when they come to Wisconsin. I love the long songs on Full Sail with the jams. Because of their Top 40 hits, they never got their due for the jams and instrumental prowess They have many stellar jams built into the show. I think you'll dig it ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:02:37 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Thoughts and Shameless Self Promotion NJC LOL! LOVED the checkmate commercial! >Anyway, if I haven't offended anyone by that, here's a link to my commercial. The production company have uploaded it to their website. You need to click on the 'Lighter Ways' commercial. http://vital-productions.com/vital-productions-london.php< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:16:39 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Live 8 Video Downloads njc Beautiful version of an amazing song... everytime I hear it I am amazed at sarah's ability to turn such a horrific tragedy into such a gorgeous tribute to her friend >Well, that settles it. I'll never diss Josh Groban again. And what a set of pipes on Sarah M. Now *that's* what I call putting on some kind of harmony! http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/philly/philly_ 062_sarahmclachlan_angel_dl.mov - - -Julius< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:23:13 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Joni on Studio 360 Joniphiles - Does anyone listen to "Studio 360" on the local NPR station? Yesterday, they featured a show called "Parody" which included a segment on John Kelly as Joni. Joni is interviewed as well: - ----- This Week on Studio 360 - "Johnny Loves Joni": For nearly 20 years, John Kelly has been performing as Joni Mitchell. In heels and a blond wig, the 6-foot-tall Kelly takes to the stage and sings for an adoring audience - an audience that occasionally includes Mitchell herself. Mitchell tells Sharon Lerner why she loves Kelly's act. - ----- Listen to the stream here: http://www.wnyc.org/studio360/show.html Download the MP3 here: http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21IDXNMWU2OZ016CVQ856MRCKX Enjoy, Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:55:50 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: London NJC, now 'fox news: fans of terrorism' my heart goes out to all of the listers in the uk, and i deeply appreciate everyone checking in. i want you all to know of my concern and thoughts for you, especially because i remember the heartfelt responses that poured in on and after 9/11. i saved most of the communications from that week. i also think that the olympics in london 2012 could be cool and fun, and i'd like to have them come to new york sometime in the next 30 years or so, assuming the world doesn't completely fall apart before then. not an easy assumption to make, unfortunately. about the london terrorism, i was appalled to read this: "My first thought when I heard - just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to buy.'" - - Fox News's Brit Hume, 7/7/05 Earlier in the day, Fox reporter Brian Kilmeade seemed to cheer on the attack because he said "it works to our advantage." Meanwhile, Fox's Stuart Varney was genuinely excited that the attack will mean other progressive issues will now be knocked out of the public debate. "It takes global warming off the front burner," Varney frothed. "It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again." can you imagine if this had appeared in the new york times? or if someone from moveon had said something like this? it makes you weep. http://mediamatters.org/items/200507080005 patrick, just back from a week's vacation with no internet np - rickie lee jones with bill frisell, atlas' marker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:55:06 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: loggins & messina NJC fyi: loggins and messina playing harvey's @ tahoe july 15th. reunion tour 2005, performing thier greatest hits. tickets via ticketmaster or harvey's casino. gene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:45:43 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, another mother for peace My dear Joniamigos: Readers beware: I think this is going to be long. If there's no good reception for me then tune me out, or scroll on by! < grin > Smurf wrote: Jerry wrote: << - The Army added 1,200 recruiters last month >> That's "recruitERs," everyone, not "recruits." Don't let them have your children for cannon fodder in this foolish war. I know of at least two JMDL women who have worked to keep recruiters, their materials and their promises away from their enlistment-age sons, and it gives me great hope that there may be more people like these two women out there. Now we're being told that the London bombings were done by an al-Qaida group we've never heard of before? Yeah, right. My thoughts are with all the victims of yesterday's bombings - - --Smurf - ------------------- The beautiful poems that Julius shared with us, and Smurf's post above (I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!) have inspired me to share -- or overshare -- today. When my son Michael was finishing his freshman year at UConn (March 2003), he was seriously thinking about joining the military madness. I was out of my mind with worry. His best friend since 1st grade, Andy, had joined the Air National Guard and Michael had never seen Andy so "happy and proud of himself in his whole life." Michael even called a recruiter, and they were sending him all kinds of brochures and letters. One slick brochure showed a bunch of young men having fun playing basketball. That sent me through the ROOF! How DARE they misrepresent what the military is all about! Mama lion springs into action. I hid them all. Then I started getting messages on my answering machine for him that I erased immediately (after recording them in writing). I was so scared when I got those messages....Michael was living in a dorm then, but what if he had been here when they called? I wanted to call that Sgt. Smith back and tell him to NEVER EVER call my home again, but I didn't want to light up his board with my number again and draw attention to my son. Michael heard what I had done (from his father, my ex-husband) and was FURIOUS with me. The anger and contempt in his eyes broke my heart. He told me it was a federal offense to take his mail. I tried to talk with him but he was too angry. And of course, I understood his feelings. I saw both sides. Who wants their mail censored? Who wants their phone messages deleted? Who, at age 19, wants his mother "running his life?" But my stance was, and still is, that I bore him, and I raised him, and there is no way on God's "little green" earth that some recruiter -- a PROFESSIONAL recruiter -- is going to take him or even talk to him. Over my dead Joni-loving body! And of course, even if he joined and managed to stay alive, what about his heart and mind? He would never be the same. I am supposed to allow my beautiful beautiful boy, whom I spent 20 years lovingly nurturing, to work for the worst President I have ever seen in my lifetime? I DON'T F#$%ING THINK SO! One Friday afternoon in March I gave him a ride back to my home (where he parked his car all week, unable to park it on campus during the week). He told me he was definitely going to join, and he wanted my support. He said: "Mom, will you come to my graduation from boot camp? Andy's parents went to his." I swallowed hard and said: "Sure, if I'm not in the god-damned NUTHOUSE!" He was not happy. I was not happy. But my position was clear. All weekend I agonized. I called friends. Some understood. Some did not. I called my family therapist. I prayed. I cried. I hardly slept. I almost called the Quakers to see how other pacifist parents handle their children going to war. I love my son more than life itself. How could I NOT support him? How COULD I support him? That Sunday I gave him a ride back to campus. On the way, I asked him if he would at LEAST pre-register for next semester. He said: "Yeah, why wouldn't I?" I said: "Well, you said you were going to join the military." He said: "Nah, I changed my mind." ALLELUIA!!!! ALLELUIA!!!! ALLELUIA!!! I'm singing the Alleluia chorus!!! I never have felt so relieved in my whole life!!!! If my vehicle had some button to turn it into an airplane, I would have been doing loops in the sky. Amelia, it was just a false alarm! PHEW! We then went on to have a serious talk. He admitted that the main reason he considered joining was that he DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO MAJOR IN. I told him not to worry, that I'd get him the best advisor on campus, and in the meantime he should just take his gen ed courses and take advantage of the free tuition and follow his heart, that something would come. People will tell you where they've gone They'll tell you where to go But till you get there yourself you never really know Where some have found their paradise Others just come to harm Oh, Amelia it was just a false alarm Two years later, I am so happy to say that he has found his paradise. He has discovered that he loves working with middle school-aged kids (God bless him, eh? grin.....). He coaches a Pee Wee hockey team (11 and 12 year olds) and works in an after-school program where the kids all love him. This summer he is a counselor at a summer camp. He is a CA (community assistant, like an RA in a dorm) in the new campus apartments and gets free room and board from that, plus lots of seminars and training in peer mediation and good stuff like that. And now he wants to go to graduate school to be a guidance counselor. He'd be the first person in our family to go to graduate school and I am one happy mama. In addition, he is thinking of joining the PEACE Corps. As for his best friend Andy, well, he has gone a different way. He came to harm. He was in Jordan for a while, and then came back. He switched from the Air to the Army -- more macho. He and Michael shared an apartment sophomore year, and poor Andy has totally changed. He smokes. He drinks. He lifts weights obsessively and is always trying to pick fights with people. Over the years, I have become very close friends with his parents, and they lament the change in him. Andy and I are still close, though, even though he and Michael have gone separate ways. One night I asked him if he regretted joining, and he admitted that he really did regret it. He won't tell his parents, though -- a matter of pride, I guess. And I found out later from his parents that it was ANDY who really saved Michael. That weekend when he changed his mind? Judy and Steve said that Michael had been over, and he and Andy had a screaming match. Michael left their home to Andy yelling: "You're not joining for the RIGHT REASONS!" Thank you, Andy. There but for the grace of God... Okay, that is our story. I think Michael understands now where I was coming from, and the older he gets, the more he will "get it." When he becomes a father, I will show him those brochures and letters and phone messages I saved in a secret place. And we will talk again..... I joined two organizations for mothers. They might not do a WHOLE lot (I know no one organization is going to show us EVERYTHING) but I like being a member. One is "Another Mother for Peace." (Anothermother.org.) I bought the bumper sticker that says the same, and it also has a little replica of that wonderful poster you all remember from the 60s/70s: "War is not healthy for children and other living things". Often I will get back to my vehicle to see that someone has scrawled: "YES!" or "AMEN!" in the dirt on my window next to that bumpersticker, and it makes me happy. Especially if Michael is with me! I also bought the letter seals/stickers and put them on all my outgoing mail. Small steps, I know, but steps just the same.... Another good organization, which is just now re-mobilizing, is the "MOB". Here is a recent email from them: Dear MOBster: Great News! Mothers Opposing Bush has given birth to MOBilizing Mothers! This smart and strong daughter of the MOB will organize mothers across the nation for better laws to safeguard and serve our children and families. We are delighted with our new arrival, and hope you are, too! In 2004, we fought like lionesses for our children and our country. Today, we see the legacy of our labor in a surging progressive movement and in plummeting public support for Bush and his policies! Now is the time to take our children's futures in our own hands, our strong mothersU hands that hug our kids and heal their hurts. Now is the time to link hands with other mothers, across the nation and in our own communities, and feel that surge of MOB power once again. We teach our children best by example: stand up for what you believe, give it your best, and never give up. Now, more than ever, our children need us to stay the course. Now, more than ever, we need the synergy and sisterhood of MOBilizing Mothers to get it done. Please join in this new venture to give voice to our children. Click here to register (http://www.orchidforchange.com/mob/lists/lt.php?id=MU9QUl0PBRoDUk9QUVAHUQ%3D%3D), at no cost, with the new MOBilizing Mothers. And please tell us more about who you are, what you care about, and what you want from MOBilizing Mothers. Click here to take our opinion survey ( http://www.orchidforchange.com/mob/lists/lt.php?id=MU9QUl0PAhoDUk9QUVAHUQ%3D%3D ) and directly shape the future of your organization. We need your commitment, and also your connections, to rally the Old Girl Network. Please forward this announcement today to your mother, daughter, sister, neighbor or best friend, and ask her to join you in building our exciting new organization. MOB Founder Iris Krasnow, past president Ginger Woolridge and past treasurer Donna Jefferson will remain on the MOB Board of Directors. Veteran MOBster Pam Hughes of Bethesda, MD now serves as MOB Manager. WeUll spend the summer listening to you and preparing for our official debut in the fall. YouUll find more information at http://www.orchidforchange.com/mob/lists/lt.php?id=MU9QUl0PABoDUk9QUVAHUQ%3D%3D "If something needs doing, ask a busy woman!" The MOBilizing Mother Ship Annapolis, Maryland - -- Thank you - ------- Okay. I should stop writing, but I have one more thing to share. Do you know the German artist Kathe Kollwitz? She has inspired me ever since I wrote a paper on her in my senior year of college for my German Culture class. Her work is beautiful, heartbreaking, inspiring. Here is a short blurb about her from a website (http://www.gratefulness.org/giftpeople/kollwitz.htm)...and if you google her, you know there may be more! "Kollwitz was particularly sensitive to the experience of women, especially the aspects of maternal love. Many of her drawings depict mothers delighting in the presence of their children. But she also depicted a mother's fierce determination to protect her young, and the corresponding potential for devastating loss. Kollwitz herself was no stranger to such loss, In World War I her youngest son, Peter, was killed at the front. His death struck "like a thunderbolt," for a long time crippling her ability to work. "Peter," she wrote, "was seed for the planting that should not have been ground." Eventually she transformed her grief into a passionate commitment to peace and the struggle against all the causes of war." One of my favorite works of hers is of a woman standing, arm and fist in the air, with the words: "NIE WIEDER KRIEG!" Phew! I think this is my longest post ever. I must be feeling at home! Thank you for listening, and peace be with us. It is not "just a dream some of us had", it's a dream we all must keep alive. Love, Patti P. Another Mother for Peace "One day, a new idea will arise and there will be an end to all wars. I die convinced of this. It will need much hard work, but it will be achieved". - -- Kathe Kollwitz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 04:01:59 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Marianne's peace and love and harmony project Thank you so much for your kind message! You have NO IDEA how it cheers me - -- praise from one of the JMDLers I respect the most. I'm so glad I checked my computer one more time before dreamland. I love you, Smurf. You rock. Pleasant dreams, mon ami. And since you have given me your confidence, baby, here is a draft I never sent...due to my own timidity, plus the London sadness and Paz's brother's passing. BIG XO, Patti P., yawning and smiling Smurf wrote: That's a nice thought, Patti, but I can't go because I have a new job and I am not eligible for vacation time until October. But thanks anyway! Vive Joni Fete (Fete de Joni?)! - -------------- I knew that, sweetie, but my post was already getting too long and silly to work in the details of your new job's vacation benefits. I'm sorry -- I should have distinguished between Love (of new job) or Money. You're in debt to the company store, of course! Your only channelled aspiration right now is to make a living. Nous comprenons! And seriously, I hope your new workplace is as nice as mine is and that you will be happy there. But you have vacation time in October, you say? How about a German JoniFest? Ein Oktoberfest fur Joni, jawohl! After all it was the Germans, wasn't it, who started all this Fest business in the first place? We can have bottles of German wine to drink while the Germans grin because they know that Oom Pah Pah's faith is in people and he taught his daughter the deeper meaning, which she in turn taught us. (Forgive me, mes ami(e)s and meine Freund(in)en: I've been porous with Lyme Disease fever, and now I'm giddy in recovery! Shooby doo bop!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:17:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Re: NjC Lila Downs Just home now from the Winnipeg Folk Festival...too tired to write much just yet, but Michel, I did see Lila Downs, unbelievable!!!! do yourself a huge favour and check out Xavier Rudd; he is phenomenal. If he's in your area, go and see him.. et Daniel Lanois was spectacular...of course. Mags*nificent ;-) Michael O'Malley wrote: Just a short report on Lila Downs, la maravillosa mujer, who played here to a packed, throbbing crowd on Friday night. She opened the show with the statement that the show was dedicated to women everywhere working for integrity and respect. She bounced onto the stage in a beautiful costume of green satin and fuschia velvet, lots of hippy-gypsy jewelry and braided pigtails that hung down her back. An incredibly energetic and dramatic performer, Lila had us all in the palm of her hand, with her playful stage presence, gorgeous, powerful voice and self assurance. She had five musicians with her, including a fellow from Mexico on harp, who played like the devil. Catch her in WPeg on Jly 10 (Mags?), Santa Cruz July13, SF July 14, LA july 16, San Diego on the 18th, NYC on the 31. Not to be missed. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ MSN. Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:24:31 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: njc, another mother for peace > Love, > > Patti P. > Another Mother for Peace > This was one of my suggestions to Marianne for her compilation. Here are the lyrics, for you, Patti P., brave Mother for Peace: ALL THE WEARY MOTHERS OF THE EARTH ( PEOPLE'S UNION # 1) (Words and Music by Joan Baez) All the weary mothers of the earth will finally rest We will take their babies in our arms and do our best When the sun is low upon the field To love and music they will yield And the weary mothers of the earth shall rest And the farmer on his tractor and beside his plow Will stand there in confusion as we wet his brow With the tears of all the businessmen Who see what they have done to him And the weary farmers of the earth shall rest And the aching workers of the world again shall sing These words in mighty choruses to all will bring "We shall no longer be the poor For no one owns us anymore" And the workers of the world again shall sing And when the soldiers burn their uniforms in every land The foxholes at the borders will be left unmanned General, when you come for the review The troops will have forgotten you And the men and women of the earth shall rest ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #273 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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