From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #232 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, June 7 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 232 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Cyndi Lauper At Last njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Judy (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Cyndi Lauper At Last njc [Smurf ] Little Richard, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Folking about with music!!NJC...probably..and a bit of a ramble. Ending with what is your first musical memory [] RE: Queen Latifah njc ["Azeem" ] Re: Judy (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Queen Latifah njc [Jerry Notaro ] Michael Angell sings Joni ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Michael Angell sings Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Judy (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] [none] [Doug ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Queen Latifah njc [Garret ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Jonatha Brooke in London (NJC) ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: Queen Latifah njc [Joseph Palis ] Re: Michael Angell sings Joni [Bob Muller ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) [Joseph Palis ] Joni in Performing Songwriter mag [Joseph Palis ] Re: Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["Mark Scott" ] Madeleine Peyroux njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Queen Latifah njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Michael Angell sings Joni ["Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Cyndi Lauper At Last njc >I thought Cyndi's rendition of 'Carey' on the TNT tribute was about the best performance of the night. I really do respect her abilities as a singer. Mark E. in Seattle < Me too, she totally redefined that song for me- her version is now the one I reference emotionally when performing... I respect her as a singer but also as an interpreter (kind of like Emmylou is so good at doing- Cyndi has it too)... jeff, who was never from a joni fan (until I came along to convert him) was totally blown away by that song in cyndi's able hands ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:03:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Judy (njc) - --- Mark Scott wrote: > But there was a time when Judy used to tackle some > pretty powerful stuff. > Her recent compilation of her Leonard Cohen covers > is testament to that. > She really packs a punch on her renditions of 'Dress > Rehearsal Rag' and > 'Bird on a Wire'. There are other songs from Judy's > earlier repertoire that > show her with real teeth in her singing. 'La > Colombe', 'Pretty Polly', > 'Marat/Sade' to name a few. She did a very gutsy version of "Pirate Jenny" too. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 05:06:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Cyndi Lauper At Last njc - --- Kakki wrote: > Well, that does it - the last thing I would think to > do would be to buy a > Cyndi Lauper album but those are four of my all time > favorite songs and with > the raves piling on here, I guess I'll have to > finally cross over! ;-) This reminds me of when Cher's "Believe" was a monster hit five or six years ago. I went to a record store with a friend who was crazy about that song and he walked up to a salesperson and said, "I never thought I'd hear these words leave my lips, but do you have the new Cher album?" Also, Cyndi Lauper was a featured guest performer at a Boston Pops Fourth of July Esplanade concert in 2000, I think it was. She was phenomenal, so I am not surprised that she's getting raves here. - --Smurf NPIMH: "It's a Beautiful Morning" "The best music is essentially there to provide you something to face the world with." --Bruce Springsteen __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:06:54 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Little Richard, njc Went to see a young 72 year old Little Richard last night at the Olympia. Still looking good but somewhat limping, except when dancing! I didn't expect much but I feel compelled to write to tell you he spared no expense to provide us a great show: 2 bass, 2 drums, 2 guitars, 2 sax, 1 trumpet, 1 keyboard + him on grand piano. Top notch band. Huge sound. Incredible stage presence. The usual jokes about Mick Jagger sleeping on his floor; etc. At some point he introduces "Lucille" and actually begins a smoking rendition of the Stones' It's Only Rock'n Roll. Very funny. L.R. was clearly craving for the audience's recognition. The fact is he did stop in between songs to tell jokes and perhaps to catch his breath, and he invited some members of the audience to come on stage and dance. Lots of hecklers didn't like that and began expressing their resentment loudly. My wife and I felt really bad because the poor chap was really giving his best and doing good. Compared to Chuck Berry whom we saw last january, Little Richard was 100 times better and really funny too. We don't know LR's financial situation but from what we know of the U.S., a lot of old folks need to work in their 70's or they will starve. This is not understandable for a frenchman so I guess that's why they had no patience last night. At the end of the show, my wife goes into a verbal fight with some of the hecklers, to no avail of course. Then we find some crew member at the exit and my wife asks him whether she can go and see L.R. to tell him how great he was notwithstanding the hecklers and the lame audience. Turns out the guy is LR's brother and is very touched by this, so he offers to let us in for free the next evening. I politely decline because we have 2nd row tix for CSN tonight. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:50:37 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Hi Kate! I'm just catching up on my digests and saw your post! Oy indeed! What a dilemma!!!!! My heart is breaking for you too!!!!! So close! So close!!!! Love, Sherelle Oy break my heart everytime I hear about this show! .. to think of how I missed this one that came & was recorded/filmed in my town... my excuse was having just birthed my baby boy but oh I wished I had gone anyway... postpartum or not! Sherelle Smith wrote: >Hi there and welcome! > > I am so, so notoriously partial to Shadows and Light >because she has the best band in the world on the stage. On bass, the >late Jaco Pastorius; on keyboards, Lyle Mays, on drums and congas, Don >Alias; on saxophone, Michael Brecker and last but not least, on guitar, Pat >Metheny! If you love any of these musicians and artists then you should >check >this CD out! That's my two cents anyway! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Little Richard, njc A friend of mine has a Little Richard CD that was recorded in the 1970s that is smoking hot. It is some special edition that's no longer available, but I was just floored by how great it is. Also, Laurent, I don't think LR would starve if he stopped working, although I wonder if he's been treated as fairly as Joni by record companies over the years. - --Smurf Laurent Olszer wrote: Went to see a young 72 year old Little Richard last night at the Olympia. Still looking good but somewhat limping, except when dancing! I didn't expect much but I feel compelled to write to tell you he spared no expense to provide us a great show: 2 bass, 2 drums, 2 guitars, 2 sax, 1 trumpet, 1 keyboard + him on grand piano. Top notch band. Huge sound. Incredible stage presence. The usual jokes about Mick Jagger sleeping on his floor; etc. At some point he introduces "Lucille" and actually begins a smoking rendition of the Stones' It's Only Rock'n Roll. Very funny. L.R. was clearly craving for the audience's recognition. The fact is he did stop in between songs to tell jokes and perhaps to catch his breath, and he invited some members of the audience to come on stage and dance. Lots of hecklers didn't like that and began expressing their resentment loudly. My wife and I felt really bad because the poor chap was really giving his best and doing good. Compared to Chuck Berry whom we saw last january, Little Richard was 100 times better and really funny too. We don't know LR's financial situation but from what we know of the U.S., a lot of old folks need to work in their 70's or they will starve. This is not understandable for a frenchman so I guess that's why they had no patience last night. At the end of the show, my wife goes into a verbal fight with some of the hecklers, to no avail of course. Then we find some crew member at the exit and my wife asks him whether she can go and see L.R. to tell him how great he was notwithstanding the hecklers and the lame audience. Turns out the guy is LR's brother and is very touched by this, so he offers to let us in for free the next evening. I politely decline because we have 2nd row tix for CSN tonight. Laurent "The best music is essentially there to provide you something to face the world with." --Bruce Springsteen - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:27:51 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... njc Hi Kate! I totally agree with you! Folk music is a very real and heartfelt genre. I've done cover versions of "500 Miles" and "Where Have All The Flowers Gone" and the pathos that comes through in the lyrics and the melody is unbelievable! They are truly great songs! "500 Miles" is my favorite because it is so heartfelt. It's a song about a person who has nothing left to lose. It is full of regret and sadness which is hard to capture in a song. Our Lady Joni is the one of the few who are able to do it like that. I don't plan on getting stuck in any one category for better or worse. There is just so much good music out there waiting to be explored that doesn't "fit". For instance, does anyone remember Aretha Franklin stepping in for Lucianno Pavoratti to sing "Nessum Dorma" one year? I heard she nailed it and blew the roof off the place! (hopefully, my story is straight...please correct me if I am wrong) That's what I'm talking about. Beautiful music is everywhere and in every genre!!!! Metallica did this thing with an orchestra that was fantastic! Nelly and Tim McGraw did a fantastically heartfelt duet earler this year. This "stepping out of the box" is what I love most! Groups like "Nickleback" and Allison Krauss & Union Station force the world to see the beauty of Bluegrass. Artists like John Legend ("Ordinary People") give an infusion of life to R&B. They make everything old new again and that my friends, is why I want to be in this business! Love, Sherelle Kate wrote: I'll err on the side of caution & add the njc tag now... this relates to joni but does not directly mention her so... for years I resisted the folk music label thinking it was something of another era where I did not quite belong or want to be... I have, over the years, changed my mind completely about the word folk music... I've wandered into the big wide wonderful world of folk music that is as progressive, varied & unpredictable as can be... I initially resisted attending the folk alliance events thinking that somehow it was about traditional folk music (not that there is anything wrong with that but that wouldn't have been enough for me personally) ... I couldn't have been more wrong about that perception... I also know how fruitless it is to try & define folk music because everyone has their own definition similar to what is art? Anyway I think folk music is a very respectable & wide open genre that is as current & forward looking as it is traditional... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:43:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Well I did catch her the next time she rolled through town with her new hubby in her band playing bass... it was the first time I'd ever heard her in concert which seems hard to believe now but for some reason I'd never been near where she was playing in the early days(& curses...she missed Woodstock...I did get to see pat metheny around that same time (with lyle mays)- magical spiritual show outside at that same venue...summertime bliss... >Hi Kate! I'm just catching up on my digests and saw your post! Oy indeed! What a dilemma!!!!! My heart is breaking for you too!!!!! So close! So close!!!! Love, Sherelle< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:31:07 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Wow! I say that you hit paydirt anyway!!!! Yes, I think about what life would have been like had Joni played Woodstock...it boggles the mind because I know everything would be soooo different! I have never seen Joni live so I think you being able to see Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays around that time was definitely special!!!! My heart has definitely healed a bit for you! Love, Sherelle >From: "Kate Bennett" >To: "'Sherelle Smith'" >CC: >Subject: RE: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? >Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:43:54 -0700 > >Well I did catch her the next time she rolled through town with her new >hubby in her band playing bass... it was the first time I'd ever heard her >in concert which seems hard to believe now but for some reason I'd never >been near where she was playing in the early days(& curses...she missed >Woodstock...I did get to see pat metheny around that same time (with lyle >mays)- magical spiritual show outside at that same venue...summertime >bliss... > > >Hi Kate! >I'm just catching up on my digests and saw your post! Oy indeed! What a >dilemma!!!!! My heart is breaking for you too!!!!! So close! So close!!!! >Love, Sherelle< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:51:40 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Hi Walt, I don't think i've ever heard Queen Latifah. I am sure i saw her in a movie though. Can't remember what that was mind you. thanks for hte recommends GARRET Quoting littlebreen@comcast.net: > Hey Garrett > > < good. > I am just wondering whether i should get it.>> > > I highly recommend it! She still has the pipes, and the arrangements are > interesting. I also recommend Queen Latifah's "Dana Owens Album" (the latter > being her real (birth) name), if you don't already have it. > > Walt > > -- > Let the walls go tumbling down > Falling on the ground > And all the dogs go running free > The wild and gentle dogs > Kenneled in me > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:07:42 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Folking about with music!!NJC...probably..and a bit of a ramble. Ending with what is your first musical memory HI Debs.....Thank you for your post, I enjoy yours. BARBARA ALLEN...Oh yes! I do know exactly what you mean... THAT song came to me via some people who lived two doors down in Bristol when I was about 5. I know It was just before we moved down to Gosport because I sang it in the car... The Allens lived two doors away and had a teenage daughter called Babs (Barbara). I thought she was soooo cool as she had a really neat (but excessively black)beehive hair do, wore white lipstick and had a pointy chest. She wore her cardigan around her shoulders and winklepicker stillettos... I was talking to her "in the street" (which in those days you did not do...so I was told) and Mum came to get me.. The exchange went along the lines of Mum: "well hello Babs, how are you?" Babs: "Oh, Ok mrs Hone.. but cant seem to keep a boyfriend, but then with a name like Barbara Allen, its not surprising is it?" Mum; "I doubt it has anything to do with your name, possibly you need to join a club or something".that was a very typical response in those days.... join a club, go to the library, do a night class......... Babs looked at mum and blew the most enourmous bubble with her gum and said "maybe" and walked away... I was intrigued about the name thing and pestered mum about it. and she sang the song to me. For a couple of years after, if we were "going across a field" I would walk quite fast if I heard church bells ringing at the same time in case people thought I had been cruel in love... How strange the things that go in to the psyche... But there are several tunes to Barbara Allen (and variations on the name Barbary Ellen for one) and I have heard a version that verged on Mac the Knife in its delivery........ (mmmmmmm..not great).... Got to go, the road is calling my name and on the wind last night I swear I heard the ghosts of wreckers hauling bones on the beach, and was that not my long lost love who flew in through the window (overlooking the moors no doubt) and traced his skeletal finger across my cheek..... Yikes and its only just after 8 in the morning Lucy Deb Messling wrote: > Beautiful post!!!!!! > > I love folk music, always have, ever since I was a little kid. > Especially the anglo and celtic stuff - maybe it's in my genes. I > remember that the melody for "Barbara Allen" was so beautiful it > scared me a little - does that make any sense? I can't pin down my > first musical memory, but a lot of folk was floating around my house, > filtered through the early sixties folk revival people like PP&M and > the Kingston Trio and Joan Baez. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:58:56 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Queen Latifah njc Garret said: << I don't think i've ever heard Queen Latifah. I am sure i saw her in a movie though. Can't remember what that was mind you. Thanks for hte recommends >> She's been in a few (perhaps most notably Bringing Down The House with Steve Martin); the only one I've seen - or at last part of it - was Chicago, and she was truly the only thing worth watching in that very dreary and meretricious film. Azeem in London NP: Gregson & Collister - Lost at Sea - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 06/06/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:41:46 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Judy (njc) > She did a very gutsy version of "Pirate Jenny" too. > > > > Catherine > Toronto > I saw her sing Hostage at a live stadium show in 1973 that was fierce. It was in Buffalo, just 45 miles from Attica. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:44:00 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc > Garret said: > > << I don't think i've ever heard Queen Latifah. I am sure i saw her in > a movie though. Can't remember what that was mind you. Thanks for hte > recommends >> > > She's been in a few (perhaps most notably Bringing Down The House with > Steve Martin); the only one I've seen - or at last part of it - was > Chicago, and she was truly the only thing worth watching in that very > dreary and meretricious film. Couldn't agree more. She was much better than the movie. I have the Dana Owens Album. I love her, but I found the cd disappointing. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:01:24 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Michael Angell sings Joni I just heard some new beautiful Joni covers on CBC radio, from a live show held recently at the newly-renamed Joni Mitchel stage, which is located in the newly-restored Broadway Theatre in Saskatoon. Here is the blurb. http://www.broadwaytheatre.ca/detail.asp?showtitle=CBC+on+Broadway%3A+a+celebration+of+music May 18, 2005 : Both Sides, Now Michael Angell celebrates love and life through song in English, French, and Spanish. Songs by Joni Mitchell, French-Canadian songwriters and Latin world beat Nueva Trova songs from Cuba. Reception at 7 pm followed by official dedication of the stage. Advance $18 Door $20 Doors 7 pm Show 8 pm Co-presented by The Broadway Theatre and CBC. All proceeds to the Broadway Theatre. Michael Angell has a rich, theatrical voice, and plays the piano beautifully. I heard two Joni songs, Urge For Going, and Sweet Bird. The latter was arranged for solo piano - a first for me, with those beautiful dissonant Joni chords. It was perfect. He sang it like a slow ballad. It was very moving. And speaking of things Joni is Sakatoon this centennal summer, the Mendel Gallery has put up a small semi-permanent installation called Joni Mitchell : Lilly of the Prairie. It features three of Joni's paintings, and some photographs of her from the 70's. The lily in question is represented on the Clouds album cover. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:35:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Judy (njc) - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > > > She did a very gutsy version of "Pirate Jenny" > too. > > > > > > > > Catherine > > Toronto > > > > I saw her sing Hostage at a live stadium show in > 1973 that was fierce. It > was in Buffalo, just 45 miles from Attica. > > Jerry > Is that the one that starts, "I'm a guard in the [something] prison, or at least I was 'til now. It was never a picnic social, never a day..." If so, I know what you mean. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Michael Angell sings Joni - --- Michael O'Malley wrote: > I just heard some new beautiful Joni covers on CBC > radio, from a live show > held recently at the newly-renamed Joni Mitchel > stage, which is located in > the newly-restored Broadway Theatre in Saskatoon. > > Here is the blurb. > > http://www.broadwaytheatre.ca/detail.asp?showtitle=CBC+on+Broadway%3A+a+celebration+of+music [...] > And speaking of things Joni is Sakatoon this > centennal summer, the Mendel > Gallery has put up a small semi-permanent > installation called Joni Mitchell > : Lilly of the Prairie. It features three of Joni's > paintings, and some > photographs of her from the 70's. The lily in > question is represented on the > Clouds album cover. > Michael, I'm so glad you cover the Canadian media, because I suck at it! Thanks for sending that. Did you know that the floral emblem of Saskatchewan is the Western Red Lily? Yupper - here it is: http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/canada/emblems/sk.html and here: http://www.gr.gov.sk.ca/protocol/Emblems/provincial_flower.htm and this... http://sask2005.ca/facts/skfactsresults.asp?ID=273 from which I quote: "Fact "Joni Mitchell, the singer-songwriter was raised in Saskatoon. She wrote the hit songs Both Sides Now, Big Yellow Taxi, and Circle Game. "On the cover of her 1969 album Clouds, Joni is shown holding a western red lily, Saskatchewans floral emblem." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:44:36 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc From: "Jerry Notaro" film. > > Couldn't agree more. She was much better than the movie. I have the Dana > Owens Album. I love her, but I found the cd disappointing. > > Jerry > I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. Her singing is fine and I do like the Dana Owens Album. But I don't think she's a particularly great actress. My main problem with the film was the MTV short attention span editing that really didn't let you actually *see* much of the dancing or the staging. It drove me crazy! But the film was entertaining and what's so wrong with that? I thought Rene, Catherine, Richard et al were all great in their respective parts and really put across the wicked skewerings of the Kander & Ebb songs very well. But I think the standout performance came from John C. Reilly. His 'Mr. Cellophane' number was great! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:49:12 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Judy (njc) Yes. It's a Tom Paxton song was a diatribe against Rockefeller's massacre at Attica during the uprising. It ends with her shouting: They'll never do to them what the governor did to me. Jerry > Is that the one that starts, "I'm a guard in the > [something] prison, or at least I was 'til now. It was > never a picnic social, never a day..." > > If so, I know what you mean. > > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> - - > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Mark Scott said: > > From: "Jerry Notaro" > film. >> >> Couldn't agree more. She was much better than the movie. I have the Dana >> Owens Album. I love her, but I found the cd disappointing. >> >> Jerry >> > > I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. Have to disagree. Especially since she redefined the When You're Good to Mama song by not going for the overdone double entendres, like all the stage actresses from the show had, and are still doing. I think she made it her own. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:27:37 -0400 From: Doug Subject: [none] Tried the bit-torrent download and it just stopped after being 99.2 % complete. Urgh. It just wouldn't finish. Is it still available ?? Any pointers for me from anyone out there ?? Oh, and what's on the Video Tree anyway ?? It takes 3 days to download !! Curious, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:14:11 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc From: "Gerald A. Notaro" >> >> I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. > > Have to disagree. Especially since she redefined the When You're Good to > Mama song by not going for the overdone double entendres, like all the > stage actresses from the show had, and are still doing. I think she made > it her own. And that's exactly what I thought was lacking in her performance. It seemed tentative and cleaned up. Why? A raunchier reading seemed like it would have been appropriate to me. Mark E. "God what a quiet little group. What a quiet, *tasteful* little group. Now that the lights are on I see just how quiet and tasteful you really are." - - Bette Midler ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:28:25 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc > "God what a quiet little group. What a quiet, *tasteful* little group. Now > > that the lights are on I see just how quiet and tasteful you really are." > > - Bette Midler > ;-) > You gotta love Bette. Watched a show about her on Biography last week (the second time i have ever wathced that station). They had some great footage for her early days. My only problem with it was that there were too many scary looking hollywood types and not enough of the live footage. GARRET NP- Get The Party Started, Daimian Rice & Lisa Hannigan - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Mark Scott said: > From: "Gerald A. Notaro" >>> >>> I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. >> >> Have to disagree. Especially since she redefined the When You're Good to >> Mama song by not going for the overdone double entendres, like all the >> stage actresses from the show had, and are still doing. I think she made >> it her own. > > And that's exactly what I thought was lacking in her performance. It > seemed > tentative and cleaned up. Why? A raunchier reading seemed like it would > have been appropriate to me. A good actress never goes for the obvious. > Mark E. > > "God what a quiet little group. What a quiet, *tasteful* little group. > Now > that the lights are on I see just how quiet and tasteful you really are." I think I've used that line a thousand times over the years. Sadly, fewer and fewer get the reference. Only you, Mark! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:35:51 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Jonatha Brooke in London (NJC) For all those in London interested in seeing Jonatha Brooke perform, here is some info. sent by her website: Just a reminder, next Tuesday night, Jonatha will perform with her full band at the Borderline in London. We know it's not easy for most of you in the US to cross the pond next week, but if you have any friends in the London area please urge them to check Jonatha out. They won't be disappointed. 6/14/2005 (full band) Doors 7pm London, UK The Borderline For more info: www.meanfiddler.com For tickets call: 0870 060 3777 or 020 7734 8932 Purchase tickets in person at the London Astoria (just round the corner from the Borderline), Jazz Cafi (Camden) or Stargreen Enjoy! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:54:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Have to agree with Mark on this one. I didn't find "Chicago" bad as a movie at all. I saw a stage version of "Chicago" before I actually saw the film and I thought that the latter was able to make things work the way the stage didn't. My friends didn't think so. They have issues with a lot of things with the film version that I sometimes agree with but respectfully didn't in most. I don't like Renee Zellweger in most of her film appearances save for "Bridget Jones's Diary," "Down With Love," and "One True Thing" but I warmed up to her in the film, but I'm sure its just me because she bore the hell out of me in "Cold Mountain". As for Queen Latifah, I thought her Bessie Smith-like persona in "Chicago" mined an aspect in her that is probably closest to her comfort level in acting. For me, her other notable turn was in "Living Out Loud" with Holly Hunter where she played a lounge singer. I bought "The Dana Owens Album" on the strength of "Lush Life" and "Mercy Mercy Mercy" and, like Jerry, I wasn't quite taken by the whole album's overall slickness. Maybe if she is ably supported by a more competent rhythm section next time around (like a Hank Jones or Cedar Walton with Ron Carter and Jimmy Cobb), I might like it. I do enjoy some of her renditions though in the "Dana Owens Album". And while I'm at it, I heard that Debby Boone released a tribute album to her late mother-in-law -- the Rosemary Clooney and I am curious about that album. My earliest recollection of pop music outside of my father's mostly-jazz LPs was Debby Boone's "You Light Up My Life". On the subject of Bette Midler, I bought a used copy of her similar tribute album to Rosie Clooney and I thought that that album puts an exciting and inventive spin to songs associated with Rosemary. Like her re-invention of "Hey There" where she had a musical dialogue with herself. Also nice to hear are "Tenderly" and "Come On A My House" (although for the latter song, Rachel York's version of it is hilarious). Not to mention the duet she had with Linda Ronstadt on "Sisters" where their voices blend very nicely. My first intro to Bette Midler was through the soundtrack of "Beaches" which has good ones ("I Think Its Going To Rain Today") with banal ones ("I Know You By Heart"). The one singer I have been smitten since she appeared a few years ago is Madeleine Peyroux. Now *that* woman can sing. Joseph in Chapel Hill (with erratic weather) np: Tristan Prettyman - "Void" - Love Mark Scott a icrit : .I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. Her singing is fine and I do like the Dana Owens Album. But I don't think she's a particularly great actress. My main problem with the film was the MTV short attention span editing that really didn't let you actually *see* much of the dancing or the staging. It drove me crazy! But the film was entertaining and what's so wrong with that? I thought Rene, Catherine, Richard et al were all great in their respective parts and really put across the wicked skewerings of the Kander & Ebb songs very well. But I think the standout performance came from John C. Reilly. His 'Mr. Cellophane' number was great! Mark E. in Seattle - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 1 Go d'espace de stockage pour vos mails, photos et vidios ! Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Michael Angell sings Joni D'oh! You'd think they would have gotten her name right! Or maybe they meant the author of those parenting books? :~) Hopefully he'll record a CD to support his show! Bob NP: Yes, "Yours Is No Disgrace" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:25:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Joseph Palis said: > Have to agree with Mark on this one. I didn't find "Chicago" bad as a > movie at all. I saw a stage version of "Chicago" before I actually saw the > film and I thought that the latter was able to make things work the way > the stage didn't. My friends didn't think so. Unfortunately, I am old enough to have seen both stage incarnations. I have to say I like the newer one best. And Ann Reinking's choreography was just a knock out. Not as pretentious as Fosse's. They have issues with a lot > of things with the film version that I sometimes agree with but > respectfully didn't in most. Much of the success of the movie was marketing it a non musical. If you watch the trailer there is no clue you are going to see a musical. I don't like Renee Zellweger in most of her > film appearances save for "Bridget Jones's Diary," "Down With Love," and > "One True Thing" but I warmed up to her in the film, but I'm sure its just > me because she bore the hell out of me in "Cold Mountain". Thank God for you, Joseph. I just couldn't take that movie. And Renee couldn't have been more affected and mannered in her acting. As for Queen > Latifah, I thought her Bessie Smith-like persona in "Chicago" mined an > aspect in her that is probably closest to her comfort level in acting. For > me, her other notable turn was in "Living Out Loud" with Holly Hunter > where she played a lounge singer. She was spectacular in Set It Off and I loved her in Mama Flora's Family. > > I bought "The Dana Owens Album" on the strength of "Lush Life" and "Mercy > Mercy Mercy" and, like Jerry, I wasn't quite taken by the whole album's > overall slickness. Maybe if she is ably supported by a more competent > rhythm section next time around (like a Hank Jones or Cedar Walton with > Ron Carter and Jimmy Cobb), I might like it. I do enjoy some of her > renditions though in the "Dana Owens Album". > > And while I'm at it, I heard that Debby Boone released a tribute album to > her late mother-in-law -- the Rosemary Clooney and I am curious about that > album. My earliest recollection of pop music outside of my father's > mostly-jazz LPs was Debby Boone's "You Light Up My Life". She can't wipe Rosemary's boots. I saw part of her tribute on television. Bland and awful. > > On the subject of Bette Midler, I bought a used copy of her similar > tribute album to Rosie Clooney and I thought that that album puts an > exciting and inventive spin to songs associated with Rosemary. Like her > re-invention of "Hey There" where she had a musical dialogue with herself. > Also nice to hear are "Tenderly" and "Come On A My House" (although for > the latter song, Rachel York's version of it is hilarious). Not to mention > the duet she had with Linda Ronstadt on "Sisters" where their voices blend > very nicely. Her best album in years. A real labor of love for her and Barry. My first intro to Bette Midler was through the soundtrack of > "Beaches" which has good ones ("I Think Its Going To Rain Today") Bless you, again. I just love her version, as well as Judy Collins' Someone here was bad mouthing that song a few weeks ago. Beaches has been on Oxygen Network a lot lately and I just love how Bette sings that song in the film. with > banal ones ("I Know You By Heart"). > > The one singer I have been smitten since she appeared a few years ago is > Madeleine Peyroux. Now *that* woman can sing. I'm not taken with her. Maybe the Billie Holliday comparison hit me wrong but I find her weak. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:35:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) Re-sending this email with an NJC tag this time. Sad to hear that Anne Bancroft passed away yesterday in NYC. I like this woman a lot and although she will forever be forever associated with her Mrs Robinson role in "The Graduate", for me her best performance will forever be as Helene Hanff in "84 Charing Cross Road". Beats her Anne Sullivan role in "The Miracle Worker" anytime. Josepjh in CH np: hum of the AC unit - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 1 Go d'espace de stockage pour vos mails, photos et vidios ! Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:44:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni in Performing Songwriter mag I dont know why my two posts never made it to the list, so pardon if you get this twice (must be the erratic weather here in the Triangle lately). While browsing through Borders today, I saw a magazine called Performing Songwriter or something like that. Aimee Mann graces the cover. At the very last page is a picture of Joni taken in 1969 by a guy whose name escaped me. Anyway, the picture shows a pensive Joni with left cheek lightly resting on her left hand as though deep in thought. Her leg is crossed sexily. Almost like a cat. The short write-up was written as though it was 1969 and said something that he has always been curious of Joni since the release of her curiously different debut album and the current one called "Clouds". So he went to an event featuring performances of other singer-songwriters and took a photo of a pensive Joni sitting and waiting for her turn while another "talented young singer-songwriter James Taylor is singing". Joni's sex appeal almost leaps out of the page. Joseph in CH - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 1 Go d'espace de stockage pour vos mails, photos et vidios ! Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:01:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) Had not heard this. Very sad. I loved her in Torch Song Trilogy and "Night Mother. Jerry Joseph Palis said: > Re-sending this email with an NJC tag this time. > > Sad to hear that Anne Bancroft passed away yesterday in NYC. I like this > woman a lot and although she will forever be forever associated with her > Mrs Robinson role in "The Graduate", for me her best performance will > forever be as Helene Hanff in "84 Charing Cross Road". Beats her Anne > Sullivan role in "The Miracle Worker" anytime. > > Josepjh in CH > np: hum of the AC unit > > > --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 1 Go d'espace de stockage pour vos > mails, photos et vidios ! > Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:28:34 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > A good actress never goes for the obvious. > Yes but she's playing a prison matron, not a princess fercrissake! Princess Kummonawannalaya in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:34:54 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Madeleine Peyroux njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Palis" > The one singer I have been smitten since she appeared a few years ago is > Madeleine Peyroux. Now *that* woman can sing. I'm glad you mentioned her, Joseph. I've been meaning to ask what people think of her. I heard one of her cds at a local Starbucks and was struck by how much she sounds like Billie Holiday. It's almost like she's deliberately imitating Billie. What does anyone else have to say about Madeleine Peyroux? Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:52:50 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Anne Bancroft, 73 (NJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Palis" with an NJC tag this time. > > Sad to hear that Anne Bancroft passed away yesterday in NYC. I like this > woman a lot and although she will forever be forever associated with her > Mrs Robinson role in "The Graduate", for me her best performance will > forever be as Helene Hanff in "84 Charing Cross Road". Beats her Anne > Sullivan role in "The Miracle Worker" anytime. I am very saddened by this news. 'The Miracle Worker' made a huge impact on me when I first saw it on tv as a kid. Such a powerful performance! And the subtlety of her acting in 'The Graduate' is something to marvel at. I know it sounds cliched but in her case it's true: she could express more with a lift of one eyebrow than a lot of actresses can do with their whole body. I haven't seen '84 Charing Cross Road'. But I love Anne Bancroft's work. She was lovely and gracious as Mrs. Kendal in David Lynch's 'The Elephant Man' and she was great as the Reverend Mother parrying faith vs. pschology with Jane Fonda in 'Agnes of God'. And who can forget her duking it out with Shirley MacLaine in the climatic scene of 'The Turning Point'! And the scene in 'Torch Song Trilogy' in the cemetary where she explains about losing a partner to Harvey Fierstein has helped me get through more than a few bad moments. Mel Brooks must be a much sadder man. What a lucky man he must have been. Here's to you, Mrs. Brooks. This Joni fan loves you more than you could know. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:54:07 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc Very depressed this eve. We all have these nights. No particular reason for it as days and things are pretty much the same as always, life it's called. Reading that A. Bancroft has died is very saddening and seems the end of an era. Relatively young she was as well. As for the depression, put some Joni on and soothe she did, as always. Haven't been keeping up with the posts as I once did and forgive me if this has already been mentioned but I found Latifah quite marvelous (such flowery homosexual language but then again) in "Set It Off " and the film version of "Chicago" dreadful. Couldn't even finish it. mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Palis" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Queen Latifah njc > Have to agree with Mark on this one. I didn't find "Chicago" bad as a movie at all. I saw a stage version of "Chicago" before I actually saw the film and I thought that the latter was able to make things work the way the stage didn't. My friends didn't think so. They have issues with a lot of things with the film version that I sometimes agree with but respectfully didn't in most. I don't like Renee Zellweger in most of her film appearances save for "Bridget Jones's Diary," "Down With Love," and "One True Thing" but I warmed up to her in the film, but I'm sure its just me because she bore the hell out of me in "Cold Mountain". As for Queen Latifah, I thought her Bessie Smith-like persona in "Chicago" mined an aspect in her that is probably closest to her comfort level in acting. For me, her other notable turn was in "Living Out Loud" with Holly Hunter where she played a lounge singer. > > I bought "The Dana Owens Album" on the strength of "Lush Life" and "Mercy Mercy Mercy" and, like Jerry, I wasn't quite taken by the whole album's overall slickness. Maybe if she is ably supported by a more competent rhythm section next time around (like a Hank Jones or Cedar Walton with Ron Carter and Jimmy Cobb), I might like it. I do enjoy some of her renditions though in the "Dana Owens Album". > > And while I'm at it, I heard that Debby Boone released a tribute album to her late mother-in-law -- the Rosemary Clooney and I am curious about that album. My earliest recollection of pop music outside of my father's mostly-jazz LPs was Debby Boone's "You Light Up My Life". > > On the subject of Bette Midler, I bought a used copy of her similar tribute album to Rosie Clooney and I thought that that album puts an exciting and inventive spin to songs associated with Rosemary. Like her re-invention of "Hey There" where she had a musical dialogue with herself. Also nice to hear are "Tenderly" and "Come On A My House" (although for the latter song, Rachel York's version of it is hilarious). Not to mention the duet she had with Linda Ronstadt on "Sisters" where their voices blend very nicely. My first intro to Bette Midler was through the soundtrack of "Beaches" which has good ones ("I Think Its Going To Rain Today") with banal ones ("I Know You By Heart"). > > The one singer I have been smitten since she appeared a few years ago is Madeleine Peyroux. Now *that* woman can sing. > > Joseph in Chapel Hill (with erratic weather) > > np: Tristan Prettyman - "Void" - Love > > Mark Scott a icrit : > .I thought she was good in Chicago but not great. Her singing is fine and I > do like the Dana Owens Album. But I don't think she's a particularly great > actress. My main problem with the film was the MTV short attention span > editing that really didn't let you actually *see* much of the dancing or the > staging. It drove me crazy! But the film was entertaining and what's so > wrong with that? I thought Rene, Catherine, Richard et al were all great in > their respective parts and really put across the wicked skewerings of the > Kander & Ebb songs very well. But I think the standout performance came > from John C. Reilly. His 'Mr. Cellophane' number was great! > > Mark E. in Seattle > > > --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 1 Go d'espace de stockage pour vos mails, photos et vidios ! > Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:16:03 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Michael Angell sings Joni Catherine wrote: Michael, I'm so glad you cover the Canadian media... Hey, ya'd think, like, there could be at least *one* Joni fanatic in Saskatoon or Regina on our list, eh? Where are they all hanging out? I neglected to mention that when Michael Angell sang Urge for Going, he didn't change the sex of the characters. For instance, he sang `I had me a man in summertime``, etc... I thought, is that a queer statement, or is it a case of being true to the original ? Whatever his motivation may have been, I thought he was brave to sing it that way (beautifully) in front of a Saskatoon audience, and broadcast to a national radio audience to boot. It seems to me one doesn't often hear same-sex references in pop songs in mainstream venues or media. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #232 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)