From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #227 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, June 4 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 227 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: Tori Amos last night njc ["mike pritchard" ] re: JMDL Bit torrent tracker ["mike pritchard" ] the french, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] To Folk Or Not To Folk... [littlebreen@comcast.net] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... [littlebreen@comcast.net] Re: Today in Bizarro Joni History -- njc [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... [Jamie Zubairi ] NJC - Folk Songs ["Donna Binkley" ] re: Tori Amos last night njc now doing two things at once and JONIFEST FRANCE [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC - Folk Songs [Smurf ] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... ["Michael Flaherty" ] RE: To Folk Or Not To Folk... ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC - Folk Songs ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: NJC - Folk Songs [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC - Folk Songs ["Donna Binkley" ] RE: NJC - Folk Songs [Les Irvin ] RE: NJC - Folk Songs ["Donna Binkley" ] Faux Songs (was RE: NJC - Folk Songs) ["Richard Flynn" ] NJC - Coolsville (Rickie Lee Jones) [OzWoman321@aol.com] RE: janis - yet another new release njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... [Bob Muller ] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: NJC - Folk Songs [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC - Coolsville (Rickie Lee Jones) [Bob Muller ] Re: Faux Folk Songs [Smurf ] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Faux Folk Songs njc [vince ] Re: Faux Folk Songs trivia question [vince ] Re: Faux Folk Songs [Catherine McKay ] RE: Faux Folk Songs ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: janis - yet another new release njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC - Folk Songs [Em ] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [Em ] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [vince ] Re: janis - yet another new release njc [Bob Muller ] RE: janis - yet another new release njc ["Richard Flynn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:16:33 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: Tori Amos last night njc >>Tori Amos can play a grand piano, an organ, and sing a complicated song at the same time. Hell, i can hardly walk and eat at the same time!<< Don't worry Garret, if you're able to sit down and drink at the same time we'll get along just fine in FranceFest, and maybe Barcelona too ;-) mike (in bars, a loner) np Albert Bover - Duo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:22:21 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: re: JMDL Bit torrent tracker >>Hi everyone, Yes, it's me, the long lost lurker who is still a million digests behind. I just want to chime in here that this bit torrent thing is TOTALLY AWESOME and really easy to use! Seriously. If *I* can understand all this stuff and get great music, believe me, anyone can!!! Hugs, Ashara<< So I bring my laptop to FranceFest, leave it with you, go for a stroll and come back 20 mins later and everything will be installed and my HD will be full of excellent music. Right? Cool. See you in August ;-) mike in bcn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:29:30 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: the french, njc Anyway, I suspect that anyone going to JoniFest in France this summer will not be disappointed. (Especially since you're organizing it, Laurent!) lots of love, Anne Thanks, at least I can guarantee the wine. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:49:26 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: To Folk Or Not To Folk... Bob Muller said: <> That's always bugged me, too, and of course it bugs her no end. My take on it is that "folk" in narrow sense would refer to the PP&M-type singers and groups who really sang primarily songs handed down from generation. When people like Dylan and Joni came around who (initially) sang their *own-penned* songs accompanied only by guitar, reviewers said, Hmmm. It's not traditional-folk, and it's certainly not country-western, what the hell, let's call it folk-style, folk for short. It's easier to say than Confessional Singer-Songwriter in a Variety of Genres. More generally, it bugs me that in this day and age performers are still pegged by whatever "category" they started out in. Try figuring out where Joni belongs, or Queen Latifah, or Dionne Warwick -- Dionne I've found under R&B, Pop Vocalist, Easy Listening, Rock... With all the computerization at Virgin records, they can tell you *whether* a given CD or DVD is in the store but not where *in* the store!!! Sometimes the staff can make up for these peculiarities, but if you find yourself with a college kid who says essentially "Joni Who?" or "Dionne Who?", you're essentially on your own. Best to all, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:21:23 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... And especially when they've labelled one cd of T'log as 'Easy-listening' and the other as 'Jazz'... good thing you can't have one without the other or they will really be in a muddle! Yes, the 'folksinger' tag never really sold it for me with Joni as to me folksingers we're ALWAYS on guitar (mainly because it has to be a portable instrument like a lute or a flute or pan-pipes but you get my drift) and the first Joni song I heard back in '87 was a small passage from 'Rainy Night House' which was piano, I was only 15, I didn't know what the hell it was, was it jazz, was it rock, was it a wonderful woman who was singing her heart out... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > Bob Muller said: > > More generally, it bugs me that in this day and age > performers are still pegged by whatever "category" > they started out in. Try figuring out where Joni > belongs, or Queen Latifah, or Dionne Warwick -- > Dionne I've found under R&B, Pop Vocalist, Easy > Listening, Rock... With all the computerization at > Virgin records, they can tell you *whether* a given > CD or DVD is in the store but not where *in* the > store!!! Sometimes the staff can make up for these > peculiarities, but if you find yourself with a > college kid who says essentially "Joni Who?" or > "Dionne Who?", you're essentially on your own. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:52:51 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... <> Good heavens -- where have you seen this done? Someone trying to sell the two discs separately on ebay or amazon or some such? Go figure, Walt -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > And especially when they've labelled one cd of T'log > as 'Easy-listening' and the other as 'Jazz'... good > thing you can't have one without the other or they > will really be in a muddle! > > Yes, the 'folksinger' tag never really sold it for me > with Joni as to me folksingers we're ALWAYS on guitar > (mainly because it has to be a portable instrument > like a lute or a flute or pan-pipes but you get my > drift) and the first Joni song I heard back in '87 was > a small passage from 'Rainy Night House' which was > piano, I was only 15, I didn't know what the hell it > was, was it jazz, was it rock, was it a wonderful > woman who was singing her heart out... > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > > --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > > > Bob Muller said: > > > > > More generally, it bugs me that in this day and age > > performers are still pegged by whatever "category" > > they started out in. Try figuring out where Joni > > belongs, or Queen Latifah, or Dionne Warwick -- > > Dionne I've found under R&B, Pop Vocalist, Easy > > Listening, Rock... With all the computerization at > > Virgin records, they can tell you *whether* a given > > CD or DVD is in the store but not where *in* the > > store!!! Sometimes the staff can make up for these > > peculiarities, but if you find yourself with a > > college kid who says essentially "Joni Who?" or > > "Dionne Who?", you're essentially on your own. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday > snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:12:16 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in Bizarro Joni History -- njc Smurf wrote: > The Third of June: > > Today Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Broadway > Bridge and broke his fool neck on the ice below. > LOL, I look forward to this day every year you post this song. "It was the 3rd of June, another Dusty Springfield day." misheard lyrics :~) Happy Friday! Jimmy in rainy Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:06:44 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... I know... it's not really labelled as such in shops or anything but when I loaded them into my iTunes it just came up with that label, I was shocked to say the least, I mean EASY LISTENING?!?!?!?! The first disk of T'log is anything but easy... It might have a full orchestra behind it but it's nothing like Matt Munroe!! lol Jamie Zoob - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > < T'log > as 'Easy-listening' and the other as 'Jazz'... good > thing you can't have one without the other or they > will really be in a muddle!>> > > Good heavens -- where have you seen this done? > Someone trying to sell the two discs separately on > ebay or amazon or some such? > > Go figure, > > Walt -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:14:36 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: NJC - Folk Songs Muller: I could be wrong but when I think of folk music I think of singers playing singalongs like "Michael Row The Boat Ashore" and whatnot. I'm not an authority on the subject so I'm not sure if this is an accurate assessment, just my opinion. Tush: Great, now I have Michael Row the Boat Shore in my brain for the rest of the day. But wait! What about Kum Ba Ya! Folk song of the century. And who could forget "I Gave My Love a Cherry" which always reminds me of Belushi in Animal House, the scene where the guy is singing that song & Belushi grabs the guitar, smashes it all to hell then says, "sorry"... db ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: Tori Amos last night njc now doing two things at once and JONIFEST FRANCE I don't think people *should* walk and eat at the same time. The odds of choking are too great. Garret, you're not nearly as much of a freak as you think you are! You must try harder! - --- mike pritchard wrote: > >>Tori Amos can play a grand piano, an organ, and > sing a complicated song at > the same time. Hell, i can hardly walk and eat at > the same time!<< > > Don't worry Garret, if you're able to sit down and > drink at the same time > we'll get along just fine in FranceFest, and maybe > Barcelona too ;-) > > mike (in bars, a loner) > np Albert Bover - Duo > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:06:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > More generally, it bugs me that in this day and age > performers are still pegged by whatever "category" > they started out in. Try figuring out where Joni > belongs, or Queen Latifah, or Dionne Warwick -- > Dionne I've found under R&B, Pop Vocalist, Easy > Listening, Rock... With all the computerization at > Virgin records, they can tell you *whether* a given > CD or DVD is in the store but not where *in* the > store!!! Sometimes the staff can make up for these > peculiarities, but if you find yourself with a > college kid who says essentially "Joni Who?" or > "Dionne Who?", you're essentially on your own. > I've been in one record store (can't remember which one though!) where pretty much EVERYTHING is all in together, so you don't have to worry about whether it might be under folk, country, jazz, funk, R&B, pop, electronica, industrial, "world", hip hop, rap, etc etc. They may have classical on its own, but that's about it. It does make looking a lot easier. All you gots to do is find the letter the person's name starts with. That Various Artists sure is prolific though! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs A new ear worm for Donna: Lord, I'm one Lord, I'm two Lord, I'm three Lord, I'm four Lord, I'm five hundred miles From my home XO, - --Smurf Donna Binkley wrote: Muller: I could be wrong but when I think of folk music I think of singers playing singalongs like "Michael Row The Boat Ashore" and whatnot. I'm not an authority on the subject so I'm not sure if this is an accurate assessment, just my opinion. Tush: Great, now I have Michael Row the Boat Shore in my brain for the rest of the day. But wait! What about Kum Ba Ya! Folk song of the century. And who could forget "I Gave My Love a Cherry" which always reminds me of Belushi in Animal House, the scene where the guy is singing that song & Belushi grabs the guitar, smashes it all to hell then says, "sorry"... db "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." --Jebediah Springflield - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:06:06 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... My public library files Joni under "jazz", which I found ... interesting. I can't say I see that as her primary catagory, not even Mingus. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:18 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: To Folk Or Not To Folk... I'll be the dissenter and say I count Joni as a folksinger--early Joni anyway, not in the folkloric sense, but in the "folk scare" sense. One thing she isn't, however, is "easy listening"--even with the sometimes MOR feel of TLOG. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of littlebreen@comcast.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:53 AM To: Jamie Zubairi Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... <> Good heavens -- where have you seen this done? Someone trying to sell the two discs separately on ebay or amazon or some such? Go figure, Walt -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > And especially when they've labelled one cd of T'log > as 'Easy-listening' and the other as 'Jazz'... good > thing you can't have one without the other or they > will really be in a muddle! > > Yes, the 'folksinger' tag never really sold it for me > with Joni as to me folksingers we're ALWAYS on guitar > (mainly because it has to be a portable instrument > like a lute or a flute or pan-pipes but you get my > drift) and the first Joni song I heard back in '87 was > a small passage from 'Rainy Night House' which was > piano, I was only 15, I didn't know what the hell it > was, was it jazz, was it rock, was it a wonderful > woman who was singing her heart out... > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > > --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > > > Bob Muller said: > > > > > More generally, it bugs me that in this day and age > > performers are still pegged by whatever "category" > > they started out in. Try figuring out where Joni > > belongs, or Queen Latifah, or Dionne Warwick -- > > Dionne I've found under R&B, Pop Vocalist, Easy > > Listening, Rock... With all the computerization at > > Virgin records, they can tell you *whether* a given > > CD or DVD is in the store but not where *in* the > > store!!! Sometimes the staff can make up for these > > peculiarities, but if you find yourself with a > > college kid who says essentially "Joni Who?" or > > "Dionne Who?", you're essentially on your own. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday > snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:26:43 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs OMG! That and anything else by Peter Paul & Mary could fall under this category IMHO and I love them to pieces, this is one earworm I don't mind Smurph!! Puff the Magic Dragon lives by the sea... db >>> Smurf 6/3/2005 11:18:29 AM >>> A new ear worm for Donna: Lord, I'm one Lord, I'm two Lord, I'm three Lord, I'm four Lord, I'm five hundred miles From my home XO, - --Smurf Donna Binkley wrote: Muller: I could be wrong but when I think of folk music I think of singers playing singalongs like "Michael Row The Boat Ashore" and whatnot. I'm not an authority on the subject so I'm not sure if this is an accurate assessment, just my opinion. Tush: Great, now I have Michael Row the Boat Shore in my brain for the rest of the day. But wait! What about Kum Ba Ya! Folk song of the century. And who could forget "I Gave My Love a Cherry" which always reminds me of Belushi in Animal House, the scene where the guy is singing that song & Belushi grabs the guitar, smashes it all to hell then says, "sorry"... db "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." --Jebediah Springflield - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:30:27 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs Put this one in your head Tushy! You take a stick of bamboo You take a stick of bamboo You take a stick of bamboo You throw it on the water hehehe Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:34:16 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs You're an evil maniac Jimmy, but I luv ya! And just for that "don't worry...be happy" (insert faux Reggae music here) db >>> 6/3/2005 1:30:27 PM >>> Put this one in your head Tushy! You take a stick of bamboo You take a stick of bamboo You take a stick of bamboo You throw it on the water hehehe Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:34:43 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: NJC - Folk Songs > Put this one in your head Tushy! I can do worse than that: You gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of cotton Gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of hay Oh lordy, pick a bale of cotton Oh lordy, pick a bale of hay You're welcome. Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:06:56 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: RE: NJC - Folk Songs OK you guys are just cruel, why am I having so much fun? ha ha db >>> Les Irvin 6/3/2005 2:34:43 PM >>> > Put this one in your head Tushy! I can do worse than that: You gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of cotton Gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of hay Oh lordy, pick a bale of cotton Oh lordy, pick a bale of hay You're welcome. Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:07:32 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Faux Songs (was RE: NJC - Folk Songs) Everbody's talkin' 'bout a new way of walkin' Do you want to lose your mind? Walk right in, sit right down Daddy, let your mind roll on - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Donna Binkley Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:07 PM To: les.jonilist@gmail.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: NJC - Folk Songs OK you guys are just cruel, why am I having so much fun? ha ha db >>> Les Irvin 6/3/2005 2:34:43 PM >>> > Put this one in your head Tushy! I can do worse than that: You gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of cotton Gotta jump down, turn around, pick a bale of hay Oh lordy, pick a bale of cotton Oh lordy, pick a bale of hay You're welcome. Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:10:03 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: Faux Songs (was RE: NJC - Folk Songs) goo goo ja joob - -------------- Original message -------------- > Everbody's talkin' > 'bout a new way of walkin' > Do you want to lose your mind? > Walk right in, sit right down > Daddy, let your mind roll on ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:11:28 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: janis - yet another new release njc hi since i figure theres a couple of folks out there who like janis JANIS JOPLIN PEARL (2 DISC LEGACY EDITION) It seemed like she was only here for a few moments and then became part of the dark side of rock and roll. However, when it comes to her music the light always shines bright. Her defining album finally gets the deluxe treatment. In addition to the original album remastered you get some bonus tracks from the sessions including the original demo of "Me And Bobby McGee." Disc two is a thirteen track live set from her shows that were featured in the film "Festival Express." Anyone who saw that film will understand the importance of releasing them. Extensive liner notes, and a twenty-four page booklet complete the package. Columbia 24.99 ron npimh janis - walk right in, sit right down, baby let your mind dumm dumm (never could catch those lyrics but apparently its roll on) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:08:04 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: NJC - Coolsville (Rickie Lee Jones) Hello, All - I know there are many Rickie Lee Jones fans on this list - just received the following in an e-newsletter from Village Records (www.villagerecords.com)... > RICKIE LEE JONES DUCHESSS OF COOLSVILLE: AN ANTHOLOGY > > This three disc set does a great job of introducing you to this > artist and her varied body of work over the past twenty-five or so > years. She long ago shook the moniker of being the female Tom > Waits. She's proved to be much more versatile and has carved her own > unique style since then. The first two discs are a stroll through > her many albums and signature tunes while the third disc is a > treasure trove of rarities and unreleased cuts from different > projects over the years. Still way cool after all these years. > Rhino / Warner Brothers $27.99 Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com "This world is so amazing The sun is shining and itbs raining too..." ~ Todd Snider ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:18:21 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: janis - yet another new release njc Those Festival Express performances are amazing. I'm gonna have to get this one. Thanks - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:11 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: janis - yet another new release njc hi since i figure theres a couple of folks out there who like janis JANIS JOPLIN PEARL (2 DISC LEGACY EDITION) It seemed like she was only here for a few moments and then became part of the dark side of rock and roll. However, when it comes to her music the light always shines bright. Her defining album finally gets the deluxe treatment. In addition to the original album remastered you get some bonus tracks from the sessions including the original demo of "Me And Bobby McGee." Disc two is a thirteen track live set from her shows that were featured in the film "Festival Express." Anyone who saw that film will understand the importance of releasing them. Extensive liner notes, and a twenty-four page booklet complete the package. Columbia 24.99 ron npimh janis - walk right in, sit right down, baby let your mind dumm dumm (never could catch those lyrics but apparently its roll on) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... Yes, troublemakers like Joni definitely cause a problem when they don't conform and fit into a niche. I've seen BSN (the 2000 release) classified as folk and rock, and many of her records as well described in a way that's pretty laughable. Bob NP: Lawrence University Jazz Ensemble & Jazz Singers, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: To Folk Or Not To Folk... While this may or not be true (I would support your thesis), the VAST majority of covers of her work coming out now are jazz vocalists and musicians, with the balance being pop covers by artists like Mandy Moore & Sheryl Crow. I think Joni would really be happy to see that the jazz world has embraced her compositions moreso than any other genre. Bob NP: Harry Nilsson, "Miss Butter's Lament" Michael Flaherty wrote: My public library files Joni under "jazz", which I found ... interesting. I can't say I see that as her primary catagory, not even Mingus. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:41:04 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc Yesterday one of the local radio stations did a tribute to Janis at Monterey and then announced that no station would be more devoted to Janis than them. Today there is this piece of news. I am in Janis heaven! - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message -------------- > hi > > since i figure theres a couple of folks out there who like janis > > JANIS JOPLIN PEARL (2 DISC LEGACY EDITION) > > It seemed like she was only here for a few moments and then became > part of the dark side of rock and roll. However, when it comes to > her music the light always shines bright. Her defining album finally > gets the deluxe treatment. In addition to the original album > remastered you get some bonus tracks from the sessions including the > original demo of "Me And Bobby McGee." Disc two is a thirteen track > live set from her shows that were featured in the film "Festival > Express." Anyone who saw that film will understand the importance of > releasing them. Extensive liner notes, and a twenty-four page > booklet complete the package. > Columbia 24.99 > > > ron > npimh janis - walk right in, sit right down, baby let your mind dumm dumm > (never could catch those lyrics but apparently its roll on) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:45:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs Hey, sorry about that, Tushie...at least you get a change. Every day at work when I make a copy, I get Glenn Miller's "Moonlight Serenade" in my head because when you run a copy the copier makes a sound identical to the tone & pitch of the opening note of that song. That lasts until I go to the restroom - then when I get a handtowel I think of Steely Dan's "Peg" because the machine noise it makes has THAT tone. Having so much music in one's head is sometimes a curse. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "She Thinks She's Edith Head" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC - Coolsville (Rickie Lee Jones) Imagine that!!! Even though I have RLJ's complete catalog (except all the live stuff available on her website) I'll buy this for the rarities disc. Thanks for the heads up, Susan. NP: Laura Nyro, "Child In A Universe" (one of my absolute faves by her) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs A long time ago when the earth was green There was more kinds of animals than you've ever seen They'd run around free when the earth was being born But the loveliest of all was the unicorn Barf, - --Smurf "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." --Jebediah Springflield - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:55:18 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc The demo of Bobby McGee is on some album I have at home, I was thinking about that yesterday, how Janis on her first run through the song had already visualized (or, heard) the final arangement - it is a very moving rendetion in my opinion, too. She sounds so good and she was close to death. The Festival Express is, I am embarrassed, something I do not know. Please clue me in, please. Vince >In addition to the original album > remastered you get some bonus tracks from the sessions including the > original demo of "Me And Bobby McGee." Disc two is a thirteen track > live set from her shows that were featured in the film "Festival > Express." Anyone who saw that film will understand the importance of > releasing them. Extensive liner notes, and a twenty-four page > booklet complete the package. > Columbia 24.99 > > > ron > npimh janis - walk right in, sit right down, baby let your mind dumm dumm > (never could catch those lyrics but apparently its roll on) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc - --- vince wrote: > The Festival Express is, I am embarrassed, something > I do not know. Please clue me in, please. > http://www.festivalexpress.com/ Check it out. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna... you can probably rent it at the video store. But then again, you'd probably want to buy it. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:53:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Hey, sorry about that, Tushie...at least you get a > change. Every day at work when I make a copy, I get > Glenn Miller's "Moonlight Serenade" in my head > because when you run a copy the copier makes a sound > identical to the tone & pitch of the opening note of > that song. > > That lasts until I go to the restroom - then when I > get a handtowel I think of Steely Dan's "Peg" > because the machine noise it makes has THAT tone. > > Having so much music in one's head is sometimes a > curse. > > Bob LOL! This is great! Back when I started working for the ministry of health as a public information officer, part of our job was taking orders for pamphlets. I used to make up songs that went with the names of them. One I remember right now went to the tune of "Oklahoma". It went something like this: "Sco---liosis is a word that means curvature of the spine!" Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:00:23 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs njc could you sing that louder because I can't hear you, I have beans in my ears, beans in my ears, beans in my ears Smurf wrote: >A long time ago when the earth was green > >There was more kinds of animals than you've ever seen > >They'd run around free when the earth was being born > >But the loveliest of all was the unicorn > >Barf, > >--Smurf > > >"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." > > --Jebediah Springflield > >--------------------------------- >Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:03:04 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs trivia question by the way, without Wally K. getting this in .01 seconds... last Saturday I was listening to the opera on the radio and suddenly started singing Alan Sherman's "hello mother, hello father, here I am at Camp Grenada." why? (other than I am nuts) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:56:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs - --- Smurf wrote: > A long time ago when the earth was green > > There was more kinds of animals than you've ever > seen > > They'd run around free when the earth was being born > > But the loveliest of all was the unicorn > > Barf, > > --Smurf > > > "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." > > > --Jebediah Springflield > Wow. I thought only we Canadians got to hear that one. btw, you spelled Jebediah's last name wrong, dude. You put your left foot in You put your left foot out You do the hokey-pokey and you shake it all about! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:07:47 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Faux Folk Songs EARWORMS HAVE RIPPED MY FLESH! (apologies to Frank Zappa.) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:56 PM To: Smurf; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs - --- Smurf wrote: > A long time ago when the earth was green > > There was more kinds of animals than you've ever > seen > > They'd run around free when the earth was being born > > But the loveliest of all was the unicorn > > Barf, > > --Smurf > > > "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." > > > --Jebediah Springflield > Wow. I thought only we Canadians got to hear that one. btw, you spelled Jebediah's last name wrong, dude. You put your left foot in You put your left foot out You do the hokey-pokey and you shake it all about! Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Faux Folk Songs > btw, you spelled Jebediah's last name wrong, dude. Oh, no. Now disgraced hack writer must disembowel himself with his own pen to escape public humiliation. Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrghh! Thump. XO, - --B o bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb "Who do you think you are... Miriam Webster?" - --Dan Kwayle "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." --Jebediah Springflield __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC - Folk Songs - --- Bob Muller wrote: > think of Steely Dan's "Peg" because the machine noise it makes has > THAT tone. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob! how funny... I forget what it was, but there was SOMETHING in my life once that had the same tone as the start of "Don't Take Me Alive"...and then I'd have that on the brain... Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc > Check it out. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm gonna, > I'm gonna... you can probably rent it at the video > store. But then again, you'd probably want to buy it. its exquisite. Something that makes me sad is that in this film Janis actually seems way more sober than many of the others, and she seems thoughtful and happy. But this was shot very shortly before her death. I'm not sure about this, but it seems I remember reading that she had gone clean of heroin at this time and was even spurning booze to a small extent, because she had some new and good relationship she was into and was in "cleaned-up" mode. BUt then, she did the heroin and bought it. BUt, to me in FE, she looked wonderful ESPECIALLY in the scene near the end where she is introducing on stage the guy who produced the tour and made it happen. MMMMM mmmm MMMM mmmm MMMMMMMMMMMMMM....black hip huggers and she just looked hot! nice ass, GOOD lookin ARTICULATE non f-ed up woman. She had amazing grace. Of course I find her articulate even when blotto. In fact a couple days ago when we were having that thread about who, of the "greats", would we like to see on (sigh) AMerican Idol...I had this vivid vision of her argueing in her inimitable way with Simon Cowl. Like I said she was inimitable, but the arguement would start with "maaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn", and go on in a totally hip if whiny fashion, but she'd win him over just by being 5 times as smart even when drunk on her ass. Anyway, in FE, Janis looks great and oddly like the slightly sober big sister. Dang, next to Danko - she seemed totally srt8. God bless Janis, god bless Danko, god bless Jerry. maybe they rock with the goddess in the gentle arms of Eden along with Dave Carter. ok I'm done. Big love.... ;) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:18:57 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc Catherine McKay wrote: > >But then again, you'd probably want to buy it. > > > > > you know me well after all these years bought ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc What totally rocked about FE to me was that I got to see it with some of my best Jonipals like you, Em - made it an unforgettable night for me. Bob NP: Doves, "Darker" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:27:38 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: janis - yet another new release njc Everything Em says is true. Janis seemed completely together, esp. compared with the rest of them! Great review, Em! Poor Rick Danko. A real cutie, but even then unable to handle it. This is a must see. I own it and I've watched it 4 times--a record for me! I rarely watch anything more than once. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Em Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:01 PM To: Catherine McKay; vince; ron; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: janis - yet another new release njc > Check it out. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm gonna, > I'm gonna... you can probably rent it at the video > store. But then again, you'd probably want to buy it. its exquisite. Something that makes me sad is that in this film Janis actually seems way more sober than many of the others, and she seems thoughtful and happy. But this was shot very shortly before her death. I'm not sure about this, but it seems I remember reading that she had gone clean of heroin at this time and was even spurning booze to a small extent, because she had some new and good relationship she was into and was in "cleaned-up" mode. BUt then, she did the heroin and bought it. BUt, to me in FE, she looked wonderful ESPECIALLY in the scene near the end where she is introducing on stage the guy who produced the tour and made it happen. MMMMM mmmm MMMM mmmm MMMMMMMMMMMMMM....black hip huggers and she just looked hot! nice ass, GOOD lookin ARTICULATE non f-ed up woman. She had amazing grace. Of course I find her articulate even when blotto. In fact a couple days ago when we were having that thread about who, of the "greats", would we like to see on (sigh) AMerican Idol...I had this vivid vision of her argueing in her inimitable way with Simon Cowl. Like I said she was inimitable, but the arguement would start with "maaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn", and go on in a totally hip if whiny fashion, but she'd win him over just by being 5 times as smart even when drunk on her ass. Anyway, in FE, Janis looks great and oddly like the slightly sober big sister. Dang, next to Danko - she seemed totally srt8. God bless Janis, god bless Danko, god bless Jerry. maybe they rock with the goddess in the gentle arms of Eden along with Dave Carter. ok I'm done. Big love.... ;) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:14:40 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: visiting other cities njc Catherine>I would love to visit NYC and experience the attitude. These days, I find that stuff really amusing, so I think I'd enjoy it!< I grew up just outside of nyc so as a young adult, would go there whenever I could... there is an attitude in nyc that is unique... sometimes rude or brusk but often beneath the surface is a genuine but different kind of friendliness... we went to nyc soon after 9/11 & it was such a changed place... in the air everywhere was kind of a shell shocked, quieter & more gentle attitude... I had never experienced that city quite like that ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #227 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)