From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #225 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, June 2 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 225 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Congratulations David and Judy [Melissa Gibbs ] the french, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] RE: Congratulations David and Judy NJC ["hell" ] RE: the french, njc ["Ross, Les" ] RE: Congratulations David and Judy NJC [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: All I Wanna Do Is Sing 'For Free' - njc ["Brad McMillan" ] Re: Congratulations David and Judy NJC ["Mark Scott" ] New shows at the JMDL torrent tracker ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? [Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Congratulations David and Judy Maybe he is from New Zealand? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:48:26 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: the french, njc Free Anne wrote; > 1) There's no such thing as a bad glass of French > wine. > 2) There's no such thing as a bad meal in France. > 3) Contrary to popular belief, the French are the > most warm, welcoming people I've ever met in my > travels. I'l glad to hear you had great experiences, but I'm sorry to strongly disagree on all 3 counts. It's like everywhere else, there's the best and the worst of everything. You must have been "smart or lucky" (as Joni would say) or you're so sweet to post some additional incentives for potential Jonifesters? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:20:03 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Congratulations David and Judy NJC Melissa wrote: > Maybe he is from New Zealand? > > > THAT GUY NEEDS A PROOFREADER---"A great BUG congratulations" indeed> Hmmmm.... Enquiring NZ minds would like to know exactly what is meant by that statement?! I refuse to believe you would be referring to our endearing and ever so charming accent? OK, I know we talk funny, but don't tell everybody! Hell - in Noo Zillund _________________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:30:48 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: the french, njc ...and I thought it was just me who wondered to himself about Anne's experiences. :-) I'm glad you had a great time Anne but...... ....I've been to Paris many, many times as my cousin lives there and when I was younger holidays were taken there as often as I liked. And it's sad to relate that what Laurent says is true, the experience can be vigorously variable. It's a beautiful place with tons to commend it and overall, generally a high quality experience. But like the ever-fabulous (for me) New York, you've got to take it like you find it and it can knock you on your ass when you least expect it to. Communication in Paris has been the biggest problem and I have (or at least had) reasonable secondary school french at my disposal. I make the effort and try to get it right. Outside Paris, my efforts are welcome. inside Paris?....oy, not good. But go, you will not regret it. It is a wonderful city. A walker, shopper, gastronome, culture hound's delight. Just be prepared. Les (London...don't get me started on THIS place.) - -----Original Message----- From: Laurent Olszer [mailto:olszer@xlsecurity.com] Sent: 01 June 2005 11:48 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: the french, njc Free Anne wrote; > 1) There's no such thing as a bad glass of French > wine. > 2) There's no such thing as a bad meal in France. > 3) Contrary to popular belief, the French are the > most warm, welcoming people I've ever met in my > travels. I'l glad to hear you had great experiences, but I'm sorry to strongly disagree on all 3 counts. It's like everywhere else, there's the best and the worst of everything. You must have been "smart or lucky" (as Joni would say) or you're so sweet to post some additional incentives for potential Jonifesters? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:44:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Congratulations David and Judy NJC lol! I work with lots of Kiwis and Ozzies in this office in London and yes, I can see what Melissa means ;-) it's the whole fush and chups thing going on... also have you ever tried to distiguish when a Kiwi is saying woman and women? There is no audible difference! Try it - 'That woman, those women' I love the accent, well, I love accents in general. My housemate is from Christchurch via Timaroo (not sure how to spell it but that's what it sounds like when he says it...) Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- hell wrote: > Melissa wrote: > > > Maybe he is from New Zealand? > > > > > > > THAT GUY NEEDS A PROOFREADER---"A great BUG > congratulations" indeed> > > > Hmmmm.... Enquiring NZ minds would like to know > exactly what is meant by > that statement?! I refuse to believe you would be > referring to our > endearing and ever so charming accent? > > OK, I know we talk funny, but don't tell everybody! > > > Hell - in Noo Zillund > _________________________________________ > "To have great poets, there must be great > audiences too" - Walt Whitman > > Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell > ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:58:08 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: RE: Congratulations David and Judy NJC Jamie wrote: > I work with lots of Kiwis and Ozzies in this office in > London and yes, I can see what Melissa means ;-) So can I - unfortunately! Sometimes I hear myself and think, "God, you are SUCH a kiwi!" Personally, I like British accents, but only a certain kind of British accent, and I have no idea what area it comes from! The Welsh accent is pretty cool too... > it's the whole fush and chups thing going on... also > have you ever tried to distiguish when a Kiwi is > saying woman and women? There is no audible > difference! As opposed to an Australian saying "feesh and cheeps"? Sorry, I had to get in at least one dig at my antipodean cousins (hey, they started it - at least Melissa did)! > Try it - 'That woman, those women' Well, I can hear a difference, but I guess I'm used to hearing the difference in "my" accent, which gives me an advantage! > I love the accent, well, I love accents in general. My > housemate is from Christchurch via Timaroo (not sure > how to spell it but that's what it sounds like when he > says it...) Close - it's Timaru.... (just south of Christchurch) It really is interesting how different accents have developed in the English-speaking world, when we all speak (generally speaking) the same language.... Hell - who can't "do" any kind of accent, except a NZ one (and I do it damn well)! _________________________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too" - Walt Whitman Hell's Pages - a whole new experience! http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:24:29 -0400 From: "Brad McMillan" Subject: Re: All I Wanna Do Is Sing 'For Free' - njc There was an article that appeared here a few weeks ago where Joni was quoted as being embarrassed that she once rhymed "schoo-els" and "jew-els". I like the MOA version where she sings "schools" and "jewls", except for the self absorbed, self conscious giggling. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kakki" To: "Smurf" ; Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 2:41 AM Subject: Re: All I Wanna Do Is Sing 'For Free' - njc > DAMN! Incredibly brilliant Mr. Smurf! And I even loved the original song > and think Sheryl IS a good musician, but DAMN. I did read some article at > one point that said the lyrics to the song was filched from an English > professor (who I think was from L.A.) but he had agreed to let her use it. > He just didn't get recognition for the lyrics for a long time. Being a > somewhat mutated, on the edge of Blade Runner L.A. native, I loved those > lyrics. But DAMN, this is good LOL! Kakki > > > > Hit it! > > This ain't no disco > > It ain't no country club either > > This is Bel Air! > > > > All she wants to do is sing 'For Free' > > > I like a good velvet-curtain buzz early in the morning > > While Chickie here likes black limousines > > And one or two gentlemen taking her > > To fancy halls so she can play for fortune and stuff > > Then she lights every match in an oversized pack > > Letting each one burn down to her impossibly gentle > > press-on nails ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:02:11 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: the french, njc > Les (London...don't get me started on THIS place.) I love it! (London, that is.) Sorry I was unable to hook up with you, though. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:18:26 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Congratulations David and Judy NJC hell wrote: > It really is interesting how different accents have developed in the > English-speaking world, when we all speak (generally speaking) the > same language.... > What I find even more intriguing is the fact that we use different words to mean the same things. The word 'chips' is a good example. In the US we use the term 'fries' or 'French fries' when referring to potatos cut in lengths and deep fat fried. In England they call them 'chips'. In the US 'chips' refers to potatos thinly sliced, deep fat fried and packaged for mass consumption. Those are called 'crisps' in England. 2% milk is called 'semi-skinny' at the Starbucks stores in London. I had a lot of fun trying to order a capuccino over there. If you call someone on the telephone and the party you are calling is using that phone, the phone is 'busy' in the US; it's 'engaged' in England. And the list goes on and on. Elevator, lift; line, queue; whole wheat; granary. As Henry Higgins said 'one common language I'm afraid we'll never get.' I can understand accents as people are separated over time by geography and class. But how is it that there are so many examples of two different words being used to mean the same thing? And what the hay is that business of driving on the left all about??? Not to mention roundabouts! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:13:17 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: the french, njc And I'm really sorry that I didn't get to meet up with you too! It all went a bit pear shaped that weekend as I was bed-ridden for that long weekend with the flu and I didn't want to make it worse as I was travelling on the Tuesday to Malaysia. :-( Jamie Zoob - --- Mark Scott wrote: > > Les (London...don't get me started on THIS place.) > > I love it! (London, that is.) Sorry I was unable > to hook up with you, > though. > > Mark E. in Seattle > ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:34:19 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: New shows at the JMDL torrent tracker Hi folks! Tthe following shows are available for download at the JMDL torrent tracker. Details and sign up at http://jmdl.com/trading/bittorrent.cfm 1965-1970 Off The Record 1966-1968 WMMR Interviews 1985 Rock Master Class The Gene Autry Museum 1995-01-26 TNT Tribute DVD Come join us! The more people who join the swarms the faster it will go! Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:59:16 -0400 From: "Brad McMillan" Subject: Re: New shows at the JMDL torrent tracker This is apropos to nothing except, I will be having major back surgery in a few weeks and need to go from receiving EVERYTHING to maybe just the digest version. I went to JMDL but didn't see a way to go back, only to go forward (sign up). Can someone direct me? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: "Joni List" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: New shows at the JMDL torrent tracker > Hi folks! > > Tthe following shows are available for download at the JMDL torrent tracker. > > Details and sign up at http://jmdl.com/trading/bittorrent.cfm > > > > 1965-1970 Off The Record > > 1966-1968 WMMR Interviews > > 1985 Rock Master Class > > The Gene Autry Museum 1995-01-26 > > TNT Tribute DVD > > > > Come join us! The more people who join the swarms the faster it will go! > > > > Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:06:13 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Hi there and welcome! I am so, so notoriously partial to Shadows and Light because she has the best band in the world on the stage. On bass, the late Jaco Pastorius; on keyboards, Lyle Mays, on drums and congas, Don Alias; on saxophone, Michael Brecker and last but not least, on guitar, Pat Metheny! If you love any of these musicians and artists then you should check this CD out! That's my two cents anyway! Sherelle Jo Lar wrote: Hi everyone. I'ma new member at JMDL. I just got into Joni and I have 2 of her albums {C&S, FTR) and I love both of them, especially the former. I'm just glad to be apart of a place where I can talk about her. I, also, wanna know what next album should I get from her. :) Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:30:32 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: JMDL Bit torrent tracker Hi everyone, Yes, it's me, the long lost lurker who is still a million digests behind. I just want to chime in here that this bit torrent thing is TOTALLY AWESOME and really easy to use! Seriously. If *I* can understand all this stuff and get great music, believe me, anyone can!!! There is lots and lots of help there though the moderators, and no question is too trivial to ask. So, get signed up, start downloading all this great music, and you will NOT be sorry!! Trust me, you will thank me for this!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:09:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi there and welcome! > > I am so, so notoriously partial to Shadows and Light > because she has the > best band in the world on the stage. On bass, the > late Jaco Pastorius; on > keyboards, Lyle Mays, on drums and congas, Don > Alias; on saxophone, Michael > Brecker and last but not least, on guitar, Pat > Metheny! If you love any of > these musicians and artists then you should check > this CD out! That's my two > cents anyway! > > Sherelle > That really is a dream band, isn't it! I mean, I knew this stuff, but reading your post reminded me with a great big, WOW! Can you imagine singing with THOSE GUYS? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:47:00 +1000 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Re: Congratulations David and Judy NJC Hell wrote: 3Hell - who can't "do" any kind of accent, except a NZ one (and I do it damn well)!2 Melissa replies: I can do a pretty mean Aussie accent . And yes, there is a touch of 3Kath and Kim2 in all of us, even if we have difficulty admitting it! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:59:08 +1000 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Re: Congratulations David and Judy NJC Mark wrote: 3And what the hay is that business of driving on the left all about???2 Melissa replies: When I was in Vietnam for a holiday last December, the tour guide said something like 3In Australia and England, they drive on the left side of the road, in the US they drive on the right, but in Vietnam, we drive on both sides!2 Very funny! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:40:25 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Tori Amos last night njc I finally got the chance to see Tori Amos in concert. I've been a fan since i can remember, so this was a much anticipated gig for me. Which means i could have left the venue monumentally disappointed. I did not have a wished for set list in my mind. I was hoping, of course, for a Joni cover perhaps, cornflake girl, sorta fairytale and then whatever else. The support act was Tom McCrae, who i had not heard before. I will definitely follow up on this guy. He was terrific. Great voice, great songs. Anyone else know him? Tori came on looking happy. There was a grand piano, an organ, an electric piano (i think), some other keyboard thing. She did the whole playing two insturments at one time thing, which really pleased the crowd. Tori Amos can play a grand piano, an organ, and sing a complicated song at the same time. Hell, i can hardly walk and eat at the same time! She ran from instrument to instrument throughout the long set and threw the odd comment in. I left quite underwhelmed. I did enjoy the show, but was not bowled over. Where was all that raw emotion? Don't people leave Tori AMos shows crying? So i'm thinking, maybe i'm just hard to please today, maybe i'm tired. Outside there seemed to be some general agreement among strangers that it was not an overly impressive show. I know that Tori can be a powerful and moving artist and i am sure plenty of her live shows fill people with feeling, but this show didn't do it for me. She opened with Little Amsterdam - ok, this is great. I'm very pleased. This is a great way to open the show. There was a good mixed setlist, but no cornflake girl:-( Right until the last minute i expected and hoped Tori would play this and really whip the audience into a frenzy. She left the stage and came back on for the first encore with Damian Rice to sing Power of ORange Knickers (one of the real highlilghts, a very nice touch). Other highlights were Father Lucifer and A Sorta Fairytale and Hey Jupiter. ALmost everything else sat somewhere around average with the exception of two cover versions - U2's New Year's Day and Simon & Garfunkels Feelin' Groovy. These were the highpoint i have to admit. That should not be the way with someone like Tori that i have liked for years. She closed the show with the awfully disappointing "Ireland". A nice thought, but had she ended with cornflake girl or Tahlula or Taxi Ride the night would have felt more complete. I'm sure i'll catch her on a better night next time. Now if only Bette Midler would come to my town and do a live show;-) GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:14:13 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Hey Jo: I have to put in $.02 for my faves.... Hejira (hands down my favorite Mitchell album) and Hissing of Summer Lawnssssssssssssssssss... my old friend Terry calls 'Hissing,' "the best pop album ever made by anyone." On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:06 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi there and welcome! > > I am so, so notoriously partial to Shadows and Light because she > has the best band in the world on the stage. On bass, the late Jaco > Pastorius; on keyboards, Lyle Mays, on drums and congas, Don Alias; > on saxophone, Michael Brecker and last but not least, on guitar, > Pat Metheny! If you love any of these musicians and artists then > you should check this CD out! That's my two cents anyway! > > Sherelle > > Jo Lar wrote: > > Hi everyone. I'ma new member at JMDL. I just got into Joni and I > have 2 of her > albums {C&S, FTR) and I love both of them, especially the former. > I'm just glad > to be apart of a place where I can talk about her. I, also, wanna > know what next > album should I get from her. :) > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! > ============= "There used to be all those talk shows back in the '50s and '60s, when I was on television a great deal. People would talk about many important things, and you had some very good talkers. They're not allowed on now. Or they're set loose in the Fox Zoo, in which you have a number of people who pretend to be journalists but are really like animals. Each one has his own noise--there's the donkey who brays, there's the pig who squeals. Each one is a different animal in a zoo, making a characteristic noise. The result is chaos, which is what is intended. They don't want the people to know anything, and the people don't." - --Gore Vidal Mike Friedman mike@pinataperspective.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #225 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)