From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #185 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, May 2 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 185 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE ["Ric Robinson" ] the last waltz [Duarte Moniz ] New film on Dylan -njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE [Jerry Notaro ] Re: New film on Dylan -njc [Em ] Re: New film on Dylan -njc [Jerry Notaro ] Birthdays - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: New film on Dylan -njc [Em ] RE: Give it Back Day, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Birthdays - NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re: Birthdays - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: "Dated" terms in Joni's songs ["Brad McMillan" ] Re: New film on Dylan, now Todd Haynes -njc [Joseph Palis ] Re: guns: (njc) [Em ] Re: guns: (njc) ["Brad McMillan" ] Re: guns: (njc) [Em ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:21:39 +0100 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE Sounds like you need a grommet. I'm no expert, but that is what happens over here - very common procedure. Ric - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:28 AM Subject: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE > I'm trying to reach a mass audience here, and this is TOTALLY NJC but I'm > hoping someone will have had a similar experience. > Inexplicably, I have developed some kind of ear condition where my left > ear keeps filling up with fluid that will not go away. It is affecting my > hearing, and I've undergone 1 myringotomy invloving puncturing the eardrum > (OOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCHHHHHH) and vacuuming the fluid out. However, the > fluid returned within a week, and hasn't responded to prednisone, and now > the Doctor is recommending a surgery to place a tube in the eardrum. Has > anyone had this done? I can't decide whether or not to see if this goes > away on its own (Its been going on for months, and so I think not), but I > am very concerned about possible hearing loss from this procedure. > If anyone would like to email me about their experience with this off > list, I would greatly appreciate it! I am told it happens alot with > children, but is rare in adults, ad it's got me kinda spooked. > Thanks > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:29:41 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Subject: Re: Speaking of Tori.... now njc >>Uh, well, it's English, but there's something VERY strange about the way Tori pronounces her words that can be very annoying and distracting.<< Tory? Rickie Lee Jones, Shirley? mike, ducking for cover ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:03:30 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Give it Back Day, njc ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Today is May 2nd. . and it is a special day! A world holiday, since 1989 presenting: "gIVE it bACK dAY." today is the day to give back what you have borrowed! Every May 2nd people from around the world are giving back things that they inadvertantly have neglected to return. . . so ponder this and look assunder. . and BABy Give iT bACK! Sorry Jmdlers that I hadn't informed you sooner. . . take the whole week for giving back, if need be. And rejoice to to some clear Feng Shui. With love, XOXO Marianne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:40:57 +0100 From: Duarte Moniz Subject: the last waltz I watch it on film, and then some time ago I also bought the DVD. Her deliverance of coyote is superb ! The best so far of all the appearances that I have seen. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:45:59 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: New film on Dylan -njc Dylan bio aligns stars Cast is a-growin' on Haynes' biopic of music legend NEW YORK -- Helmer Todd Haynes is attracting a raft of stars -- including Cate Blanchett, Colin Farrell, Adrien Brody, Richard Gere, Julianne Moore and Charlotte Gainsbourg -- to his "I'm Not There," an unconventional film bio of Bob Dylan. Deals are not set in stone, but financing on the pic is expected to coalesce in Cannes. As envisioned by writer-helmer Haynes, pic follows seven characters, each embodying a different aspect of Dylan's life story and music. Pic is the first biographical feature project to secure the approval of the pop culture icon. Project -- being produced through Killer Films and Wells Prods. -- had been set up at Paramount last year, but has fallen off the studio's slate following its recent regime shift. CAA and Cinetic Media are repping the pic, which is being produced by Killer's Christine Vachon and Dylan rep John Rosen. John Wells and John Goldwyn are exec producing. Filmmakers plan a fall start, but skedding could be the key to keeping the stars lined up for Haynes' dream pic. The helmer has been toiling on the Dylan concept for years; he began formulating the feature prior to his 2002 effort "Far From Heaven." Reps for the actors said they are not officially attached until the pic's financing falls into place. However, sources close to the production feel confident the slated elements will stick, and Haynes was in Gotham taking meetings recently. Killer has Dylan's bio rights. The songwriter's autobiography "Chronicles, Volume One" was published in October. Haynes' credits include the rock 'n' roll pic "Velvet Goldmine" and Moore starrer "Safe." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:50:00 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE Though less common in adults, the procedure is done all the time with children and is very safe and effective. Maybe our "resident" M.D. Laura should chime in here. Jerry > I'm trying to reach a mass audience here, and this is TOTALLY NJC but I'm > hoping someone will have had a similar experience. > Inexplicably, I have developed some kind of ear condition where my left ear > keeps filling up with fluid that will not go away. It is affecting my > hearing, and I've undergone 1 myringotomy invloving puncturing the eardrum > (OOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCHHHHHH) and vacuuming the fluid out. However, the fluid > returned within a week, and hasn't responded to prednisone, and now the Doctor > is recommending a surgery to place a tube in the eardrum. Has anyone had this > done? I can't decide whether or not to see if this goes away on its own (Its > been going on for months, and so I think not), but I am very concerned about > possible hearing loss from this procedure. > If anyone would like to email me about their experience with this off list, I > would greatly appreciate it! I am told it happens alot with children, but is > rare in adults, ad it's got me kinda spooked. > Thanks > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 06:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: New film on Dylan -njc guess I shouldn't shoot it til it comes through the door (how's that for some Floriduh 'tude?) but anyway, I don't like the idea of this. Hope it turns out well... but as they say in German "Ich sehe schwartz". I see black, or, the outlook is *not* good. I ADORE having his autobio to read..and hope he writes more. But I also cannot ABIDE Sean Penns's reading of it. Why can't Bob himself read it??? Would be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more awesome! Would be a treasure for years and eons to come - much like those segments of Jack Kerouac on the Steve Allen show. Treasures! And Dylan ain't dead yet...and hopefully won't be for a long time to come. I don't get it. Like I said, I think the flick is gonna stink (hope I'm wrong). I suppose it might be good for kids. Maybe not "stink", but just come off not-genuine. Hope I'm wrong. Em - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > Dylan bio aligns stars > Cast is a-growin' on Haynes' biopic of music legend > > NEW YORK -- Helmer Todd Haynes is attracting a raft of stars -- > including > Cate Blanchett, Colin Farrell, Adrien Brody, Richard Gere, Julianne > Moore > and Charlotte Gainsbourg -- to his "I'm Not There," an unconventional > film > bio of Bob Dylan. > > Deals are not set in stone, but financing on the pic is expected to > coalesce > in Cannes. > > As envisioned by writer-helmer Haynes, pic follows seven characters, > each > embodying a different aspect of Dylan's life story and music. Pic is > the > first biographical feature project to secure the approval of the pop > culture > icon. > > Project -- being produced through Killer Films and Wells Prods. -- > had been > set up at Paramount last year, but has fallen off the studio's slate > following its recent regime shift. > > CAA and Cinetic Media are repping the pic, which is being produced by > Killer's Christine Vachon and Dylan rep John Rosen. John Wells and > John > Goldwyn are exec producing. > > Filmmakers plan a fall start, but skedding could be the key to > keeping the > stars lined up for Haynes' dream pic. The helmer has been toiling on > the > Dylan concept for years; he began formulating the feature prior to > his 2002 > effort "Far From Heaven." > > Reps for the actors said they are not officially attached until the > pic's > financing falls into place. However, sources close to the production > feel > confident the slated elements will stick, and Haynes was in Gotham > taking > meetings recently. > > Killer has Dylan's bio rights. The songwriter's autobiography > "Chronicles, > Volume One" was published in October. > > Haynes' credits include the rock 'n' roll pic "Velvet Goldmine" and > Moore > starrer "Safe." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:53:02 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: New film on Dylan -njc But I also > cannot ABIDE Sean Penns's reading of it. > Why can't Bob himself read it??? No one would understand it! Jerry :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:54:21 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Birthdays - NJC Judy Collins turned 66 yesterday. Tomorrow is Pete Seeger9s 86th birthday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 07:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: New film on Dylan -njc I would understand the heck out of it. And the parts I didn't understand, I would happily wonder about. I adore the way he speaks. When he did the 60 minutes interview I was glued to the TV. It was like his words "sewed" themselves onto my heart. So real. I just feel like the real world is over sometimes and all we have left is a slew of remakes. The real movie (his life) isn't over yet. So why start the re-make? I probably just don't "get it" is all. I just feel like the real stuff is over and there are only polyester clothes to be had anymore. Its like trying to represent the notion "old blue jeans", but all thats around to work with is double knit. So you make them outta that and call 'em jeans. Em - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > But I also > > cannot ABIDE Sean Penns's reading of it. > > Why can't Bob himself read it??? > > No one would understand it! > > Jerry :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:14:10 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Give it Back Day, njc Did you make this "GIVE IT BACK DAY" UP? Also if a person has borrowed from you is it okay to give them a gentle reminder...you know.. you borrowed such and such over two years ago? GIVE IT BACK TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bree XO >today is May 2nd. . >and it is a special day! > >A world holiday, since 1989 > >presenting: > >"gIVE it bACK dAY." >today is the day to give back what you have borrowed! >>With love, >XOXO >Marianne >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >_________________________________________________________________ >Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:25:23 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: TOTALLY NJC EAR TROUBLE Ken... So sorry about your ear trouble... but the good news is this: My great nephew..Caiden..(he's two and some months ) just had his tubes removed. The same deal as you have described..and his hearing is fine...no hearing difficulties whatsoever. I'm sure you will do fine!! Thinking of you... love.. Bree > However, the fluid returned within a week, and hasn't responded to >prednisone, and now the Doctor > > is recommending a surgery to place a tube in the eardrum. Has anyone >had this > > done? I can't decide whether or not to see if this goes away on its own >(Its > > been going on for months, and so I think not), but I am very concerned >about > > possible hearing loss from this procedure. > > If anyone would like to email me about their experience with this off >list, I > > would greatly appreciate it! I am told it happens alot with children, >but is > > rare in adults, ad it's got me kinda spooked. > > Thanks > > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:16:09 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: guns: quoting Joni (njc) You nailed it, Bob: >"Little kids packing guns to school"...yep, that Joni never lies, come to think of it. As for guns, well (pardon me while I vent), how many of you who are pro-gun grew up in a neighborhood where you couldn't go near a window some nights because of the sound of gunfire? Or went to walk out your back door, only to be practically mowed down by a guy being chased by a cop, both with guns drawn? Or watched out your back window at night as gunshot victims were being brought into the ER across the street? That's what I thought. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:01:04 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) Yes, I remember him now! He was a tall, thin fellow with shoulder-length hair. He did take most of the solos but the other guy rocked out on a huge one! Sting stepped into Dominic's place on the left side of the stage and Dominic stepped back by the drummer. I'm sorry I can't remember which song it was. There were some songs I was not too familiar with. I think it was "Voices in My Head". Sherelle >From: "Music Is Special" >To: "Sherelle Smith" , >Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) >Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:50:26 -0500 > >Dominic is the one on the left side of the stage (to Sting's right) who >probably took all the solos at the show except one. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sherelle Smith" >To: ; >Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:51 AM >Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) > > > > Ohhhh....I was wondering who Dominic Miller was!!! I was on Sting's >website > > and briefly read a little bit about him. I was trying to guess all > > throughout the concert who he was. Thanks for the info! I'm glad you > > enjoyed the concert too! Wow! 8 or 9 times! That's great! > > > > Sherelle > > > > >From: "Music Is Special" > > >To: "Sherelle Smith" , > > >Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) > > >Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:27:19 -0500 > > > > > >I also saw Sting a few weeks ago and it was one of the better Sting > > >concerts > > >I've seen over the years (mayb 8-9 times in all). One small correction: >the > > >"two young guitarists" were not so young. The main one is Sting's > > >long-time guitarist of at least ten years Dominic Miller. His own >record > > >was released a couple of years ago. > > > > > >e ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes I think it might be best to have one. While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it is fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. And we do hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess if someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, non-violent thief, I might regret the no gun decision. But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who DO live in an area like you described would be. In other words if I *did* live in a place that rough...not sure I'd tend to be *less* anti-gun. hmmm... Em - --- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > You nailed it, Bob: > > > >"Little kids packing guns to school"...yep, that Joni never lies, > come to think > of it. > > As for guns, well (pardon me while I vent), how many of you who are > pro-gun grew up in a neighborhood where you couldn't go near a window > some nights because of the sound of gunfire? Or went to walk out your > back door, only to be practically mowed down by a guy being chased by > a cop, both with guns drawn? Or watched out your back window at night > as gunshot victims were being brought into the ER across the street? > > That's what I thought. > > lots of love, > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:50:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Birthdays - NJC Wow! Judy Collins still hits the high notes effortlessly. Jazz singer Shirley Horn turned 71 yesterday too. Is Pete Seeger still recording? Jerry Notaro wrote: Judy Collins turned 66 yesterday. Tomorrow is Pete Seeger9s 86th birthday. - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:55:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Birthdays - NJC > Wow! > Judy Collins still hits the high notes effortlessly. Jazz singer Shirley Horn > turned 71 yesterday too. Is Pete Seeger still recording? > > I don9t think he does much of any appearing anymore. I saw him 4 years back > with Judy Collin, Odetta, et al at a concert in NYC. He was 82 then, very > frail, and only sang one song, very weakly. WMNF, our local community owned > radio station that plays lots of Joni, is broadcasting a special for his > birthday with Ronnie Gilbert and Janis Ian tomorrow. > > They stream if you are interested. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:19:20 -0400 From: "Brad McMillan" Subject: Re: "Dated" terms in Joni's songs The masking tape thing is like another malapropism in This Flight Tonight: "Up go the flaps, down go the wheels". If the wheels are going down, the aircraft is landing, so the flaps would be going down, or extended also. But as to dated references: Richard: "...put a quarter in the Wurlitzer" What's a Wurlitzer Grandpa? Big Yellow Taxi: DDT was outlawed in 1972. Few if any young people know what it is. Case of You: "blue tv screen light" (obviously from a black & white tv). Furry Sings the Blues: Beale Street has been revitalized. From where "Handy cast in bronze, stands in a little park", to the recently opened Rock and Soul Museum, Beale is alive. Coyote: "...just getting home with my reel to reel" (tape recorder). These dated cultural references are unavoidable. But what makes Joni timeless is her lyrics that describe her feelings that are universally recognized when the tears come to our eyes and we murmur, "I know, Joni, I know". - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Fye" To: "Richard Flynn" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: "Dated" terms in Joni's songs > Richard offered: > > > Umm... "Breakfast Barney"? "Sign-off prayer"? > > Sign-off prayer is a good one. These days, do stations (radio or otherwise) > ever stop broadcasting? > > However, I don't know what "Breakfast Barney" is -- was that a local morning > radio show somewhere? Anyone know where? Somewhere in California? Somewhere > in Canada? > > As for my original mention of "transistor" and the comments about whether > folks referred to a portable radio as such, I think this one falls into the > category of artistic license on Joni's part. "Transistor radio" wouldn't > have fit into the meter of the song, and, while "radio" would have fit, it > was too common a word. "Transistor" worked perfectly, though. > > This is similar to my old complaint about the song "Electricity," in which > Joni sings "The masking tape tangles / It's sticky and black." Of course no > one uses masking tape for electrical work (unless you have nothing else), > and although it would be sticky (although not very), it's not black. Yes, > there is coloured masking tape now, but I've never seen black (and I spend a > lot of time at Home Depot!) -- and when Joni wrote the song, masking tape > was only produced in that familiar pale yellow (or off-white?) colour. > > Nonetheless, Joni used "masking tape" because it fit the meter of the song > better than "electrical tape" did. > > Back to the subject ... are there any other examples of "dated" terms in > Joni's songs? > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:30:23 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: guns: (njc) This is from Doctors Against Handgun Injury (DAHI) Types of Firearm Death and Injury While most of the public debate about firearms focuses on homicides, the data demonstrate that more than half (58%) of all firearm-related deaths are a result of suicide. 9 This substantial component of the gun injury problem is plainly a public health issue and clearly requires attention, not only because of the size of the problem, but also because suicide is highly preventable. Demographically, young people and the elderly are at particular risk for suicide. More young people aged 15-24 commit suicide with a firearm than by any other means, and 34% of all firearm suicides are committed by individuals aged 55 and older. More than half of all suicides among Americans of any age are committed with a firearm. That is an extremely high percentage when compared to the second most common category of suicide b hanging, strangulation and suffocation b which accounted for 18.6% of all suicides in 1999. 11 Suicidal behavior is complex and has multiple causes. No single change in law or medical practice procedures will solve the problem, and there are certainly ways to commit suicide without a firearm. But suicide attempts using firearms are particularly deadly: evidence indicates that 90% of suicide attempts involving firearms will result in death. 12 We can reduce this tragic waste of human life by increasing public attention to the strong link between suicide and firearms, increasing the medical community's focus on early warning signs of depression and other predisposing disorders, and adopting rational firearm injury prevention policies. Homicide is also a multi-causal problem. Contrary to popular perception, the majority of firearm homicides are not the result of bstranger danger crime,b but rather the result of intimate partner violence or an argument between people who know each other. In 2000, the number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate acquaintance was nearly 4 times higher than the number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined. 13 DAHI recommends adopting policies to reduce the easy availability of firearms to prohibited persons and engaging the medical community to more readily screen for firearm accessibility, signs of violence in the home and unsafe gun storage. Unintentional deaths and injuries represent perhaps the most preventable firearm-related incidents. In 2001, 4,160 youths aged 0-18 suffered from unintentional, nonfatal gunshot wounds. 14 In 2000, unintentional firearm deaths claimed 67 children between the ages of 5 and 14. 15 By counseling parents about the inherent risks associated with firearms, particularly handguns, and by deploying existing technology aimed at reducing childrenbs access to such weapons, the number of unintentional firearm injuries and deaths can be dramatically reduced. Progress is Being Made Despite the disturbing data, progress can b and has b been made. There has been a decline in overall firearm deaths and injuries in recent years. From 1993 to 1999, firearm-related deaths declined from approximately 40,000 to approximately 28,000, primarily due to a decrease in homicides. 16 A number of factors may explain this positive trend: a better economy, changing attitudes toward violence, advanced practices in emergency health care, legislative initiatives, and increased awareness of the potential danger of firearms. Although current trends are favorable, this country still faces an unacceptable level of loss of life associated with firearms, handguns especially. This is a time to build on past success and test new methods. - -----Original Message----- From: Em To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes I think it might be best to have one. While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it is fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. And we do hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess if someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, non-violent thief, I might regret the no gun decision. But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who DO live in an area like you described would be. In other words if I *did* live in a place that rough...not sure I'd tend to be *less* anti-gun. hmmm... Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New film on Dylan -njc - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > But I also > > cannot ABIDE Sean Penns's reading of it. > > Why can't Bob himself read it??? > > No one would understand it! > > Jerry :) > LOL. We need to send Bob and Tori and Rickie Lee (and Shirley) to enunciation lessons. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:47:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: New film on Dylan, now Todd Haynes -njc This is great news! I am not really a huge fan of Dylan but I am of Todd Haynes and he is one of very few film semioticians working in mainstream Hollywood -- if that has currency still in the deam factory that is Hollywood. I can't wait to see how he will cinematically put to celluloid the (however incomplete) story of Dylan. Late last fall, a former film professor of Todd Haynes from Brown came to our class at Duke and told us that Haynes is more interested in Dylan's life than noted filmmaker Chantal Akerman's life (as was previously announced), and you could see the who are the Dylan fans in class by the gushed responses. I like Haynes' student film called "Superstar: The Story of Karen Carpenter" where he used Barbie dolls to portray Karen and Richard and quite controversially provoked discussions on Richard's sexuality. But of all his films, I like "Safe" best. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Ingrid Lucia "Hotel Child" Dylan bio aligns stars Cast is a-growin' on Haynes' biopic of music legend NEW YORK -- Helmer Todd Haynes is attracting a raft of stars -- including Cate Blanchett, Colin Farrell, Adrien Brody, Richard Gere, Julianne Moore and Charlotte Gainsbourg -- to his "I'm Not There," an unconventional film bio of Bob Dylan. Deals are not set in stone, but financing on the pic is expected to coalesce in Cannes. As envisioned by writer-helmer Haynes, pic follows seven characters, each embodying a different aspect of Dylan's life story and music. Pic is the first biographical feature project to secure the approval of the pop culture icon. Project -- being produced through Killer Films and Wells Prods. -- had been set up at Paramount last year, but has fallen off the studio's slate following its recent regime shift. CAA and Cinetic Media are repping the pic, which is being produced by Killer's Christine Vachon and Dylan rep John Rosen. John Wells and John Goldwyn are exec producing. Filmmakers plan a fall start, but skedding could be the key to keeping the stars lined up for Haynes' dream pic. The helmer has been toiling on the Dylan concept for years; he began formulating the feature prior to his 2002 effort "Far From Heaven." Reps for the actors said they are not officially attached until the pic's financing falls into place. However, sources close to the production feel confident the slated elements will stick, and Haynes was in Gotham taking meetings recently. Killer has Dylan's bio rights. The songwriter's autobiography "Chronicles, Volume One" was published in October. Haynes' credits include the rock 'n' roll pic "Velvet Goldmine" and Moore starrer "Safe." - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Criez votre Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:02:49 -0400 From: "Brad McMillan" Subject: Re: guns: (njc) I, for one, am glad that I own firearms after reading that article. I'm happy to know that if I ever get depressed enough, I can eat a gun instead of dangling from a rope until I suffocate. That sounds horrible to me. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > This is from Doctors Against Handgun Injury (DAHI) > > Types of Firearm Death and Injury > > While most of the public debate about firearms focuses on homicides, > the data demonstrate that more than half (58%) of all firearm-related > deaths are a result of suicide. 9 This substantial component of the > gun injury problem is plainly a public health issue and clearly > requires attention, not only because of the size of the problem, but > also because suicide is highly preventable. > > Demographically, young people and the elderly are at particular risk > for suicide. More young people aged 15-24 commit suicide with a firearm > than by any other means, and 34% of all firearm suicides are committed > by individuals aged 55 and older. More than half of all suicides among > Americans of any age are committed with a firearm. That is an > extremely high percentage when compared to the second most common > category of suicide b hanging, strangulation and suffocation b which > accounted for 18.6% of all suicides in 1999. 11 > > Suicidal behavior is complex and has multiple causes. No single change > in law or medical practice procedures will solve the problem, and > there are certainly ways to commit suicide without a firearm. But > suicide attempts using firearms are particularly deadly: evidence > indicates that 90% of suicide attempts involving firearms will result > in death. 12 We can reduce this tragic waste of human life by > increasing public attention to the strong link between suicide and > firearms, increasing the medical community's focus on early warning > signs of depression and other predisposing disorders, and adopting > rational firearm injury prevention policies. > > Homicide is also a multi-causal problem. Contrary to popular > perception, the majority of firearm homicides are not the result of > bstranger danger crime,b but rather the result of intimate partner > violence or an argument between people who know each other. In 2000, > the number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate > acquaintance was nearly 4 times higher than the number murdered by > male strangers using all weapons combined. 13 DAHI recommends adopting > policies to reduce the easy availability of firearms to prohibited > persons and engaging the medical community to more readily screen for > firearm accessibility, signs of violence in the home and unsafe gun > storage. Unintentional deaths and injuries represent perhaps the > most preventable firearm-related incidents. In 2001, 4,160 youths aged > 0-18 suffered from unintentional, nonfatal gunshot wounds. 14 > > > In 2000, unintentional firearm deaths claimed 67 children between the > ages of 5 and 14. 15 By counseling parents about the inherent risks > associated with firearms, particularly handguns, and by deploying > existing technology aimed at reducing childrenbs access to such > weapons, the number of unintentional firearm injuries and deaths can be > dramatically reduced. > > Progress is Being Made Despite the disturbing data, progress can b and > has b been made. There has been a decline in overall firearm deaths and > injuries in recent years. From 1993 to 1999, firearm-related deaths > declined from approximately 40,000 to approximately 28,000, primarily > due to a decrease in homicides. 16 A number of factors may explain this > positive trend: a better economy, changing attitudes toward violence, > advanced practices in emergency health care, legislative initiatives, > and increased awareness of the potential danger of firearms. > Although current trends are favorable, this country still faces an > unacceptable level of loss of life associated with firearms, handguns > especially. This is a time to build on past success and test new > methods. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Em > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) > > Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes I think > it > might be best to have one. > While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it is > fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. And we do > hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. > I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. > My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess if > someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, non-violent > thief, I might regret the no gun decision. > But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who DO live > in an area like you described would be. > In other words if I *did* live in a place that rough...not sure I'd > tend to be *less* anti-gun. > hmmm... > Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:16:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: guns: (njc) Brad I gotta admit I pretty much had the same sort of thought. Don't own one yet. Maybe never will. But if I ever do buy one it will probably be as "insurance". Too old too poor too miserable, no hope...eat the gun. Maybe by then they'll make a socially acceptable pill for that. Em - --- Brad McMillan wrote: > I, for one, am glad that I own firearms after reading that article. > I'm > happy to know that if I ever get depressed enough, I can eat a gun > instead > of dangling from a rope until I suffocate. That sounds horrible to > me. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > > > > This is from Doctors Against Handgun Injury (DAHI) > > > > Types of Firearm Death and Injury > > > > While most of the public debate about firearms focuses on > homicides, > > the data demonstrate that more than half (58%) of all > firearm-related > > deaths are a result of suicide. 9 This substantial component of > the > > gun injury problem is plainly a public health issue and clearly > > requires attention, not only because of the size of the problem, > but > > also because suicide is highly preventable. > > > > Demographically, young people and the elderly are at particular > risk > > for suicide. More young people aged 15-24 commit suicide with a > firearm > > than by any other means, and 34% of all firearm suicides are > committed > > by individuals aged 55 and older. More than half of all suicides > among > > Americans of any age are committed with a firearm. That is an > > extremely high percentage when compared to the second most common > > category of suicide b hanging, strangulation and suffocation b > which > > accounted for 18.6% of all suicides in 1999. 11 > > > > Suicidal behavior is complex and has multiple causes. No single > change > > in law or medical practice procedures will solve the problem, and > > there are certainly ways to commit suicide without a firearm. But > > suicide attempts using firearms are particularly deadly: evidence > > indicates that 90% of suicide attempts involving firearms will > result > > in death. 12 We can reduce this tragic waste of human life by > > increasing public attention to the strong link between suicide and > > firearms, increasing the medical community's focus on early > warning > > signs of depression and other predisposing disorders, and adopting > > rational firearm injury prevention policies. > > > > Homicide is also a multi-causal problem. Contrary to popular > > perception, the majority of firearm homicides are not the result > of > > bstranger danger crime,b but rather the result of intimate > partner > > violence or an argument between people who know each other. In > 2000, > > the number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate > > acquaintance was nearly 4 times higher than the number murdered by > > male strangers using all weapons combined. 13 DAHI recommends > adopting > > policies to reduce the easy availability of firearms to prohibited > > persons and engaging the medical community to more readily screen > for > > firearm accessibility, signs of violence in the home and unsafe gun > > storage. Unintentional deaths and injuries represent perhaps the > > most preventable firearm-related incidents. In 2001, 4,160 youths > aged > > 0-18 suffered from unintentional, nonfatal gunshot wounds. 14 > > > > > > In 2000, unintentional firearm deaths claimed 67 children between > the > > ages of 5 and 14. 15 By counseling parents about the inherent > risks > > associated with firearms, particularly handguns, and by deploying > > existing technology aimed at reducing childrenbs access to such > > weapons, the number of unintentional firearm injuries and deaths > can be > > dramatically reduced. > > > > Progress is Being Made Despite the disturbing data, progress can > b and > > has b been made. There has been a decline in overall firearm > deaths and > > injuries in recent years. From 1993 to 1999, firearm-related > deaths > > declined from approximately 40,000 to approximately 28,000, > primarily > > due to a decrease in homicides. 16 A number of factors may explain > this > > positive trend: a better economy, changing attitudes toward > violence, > > advanced practices in emergency health care, legislative > initiatives, > > and increased awareness of the potential danger of firearms. > > Although current trends are favorable, this country still faces an > > unacceptable level of loss of life associated with firearms, > handguns > > especially. This is a time to build on past success and test new > > methods. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Em > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Sent: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) > > > > Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes I > think > > it > > might be best to have one. > > While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it is > > fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. And > we do > > hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. > > I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. > > My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess if > > someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, > non-violent > > thief, I might regret the no gun decision. > > But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who DO > live > > in an area like you described would be. > > In other words if I *did* live in a place that rough...not sure I'd > > tend to be *less* anti-gun. > > hmmm... > > Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:38:03 -0400 From: "Brad McMillan" Subject: Re: guns: (njc) Em; I was being facetious. In depessing times, so far, whenever in examining options, checking out early has crossed my mind, I have always rejected it out of hand. I figure that no matter how bleak things seem, they can still get better, but I wouldn't know if I took my own life. Of course, a painful, terminal illness might change my mind. I was taught to respect firearms as dangerous tools at an early age. Whenever someone edges towards outlawing firearms as a cure for violence, I chaff at the illogic of that position. Gee, I guess we should do away with automobiles, chainsaws, motorcycles, power boats, and anything else people frequently hurt themselves or others with. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "Brad McMillan" ; ; Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > Brad I gotta admit I pretty much had the same sort of thought. Don't > own one yet. Maybe never will. But if I ever do buy one it will > probably be as "insurance". Too old too poor too miserable, no > hope...eat the gun. Maybe by then they'll make a socially acceptable > pill for that. > Em > > --- Brad McMillan wrote: > > > I, for one, am glad that I own firearms after reading that article. > > I'm > > happy to know that if I ever get depressed enough, I can eat a gun > > instead > > of dangling from a rope until I suffocate. That sounds horrible to > > me. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:30 PM > > Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > > > > > > > This is from Doctors Against Handgun Injury (DAHI) > > > > > > Types of Firearm Death and Injury > > > > > > While most of the public debate about firearms focuses on > > homicides, > > > the data demonstrate that more than half (58%) of all > > firearm-related > > > deaths are a result of suicide. 9 This substantial component of > > the > > > gun injury problem is plainly a public health issue and clearly > > > requires attention, not only because of the size of the problem, > > but > > > also because suicide is highly preventable. > > > > > > Demographically, young people and the elderly are at particular > > risk > > > for suicide. More young people aged 15-24 commit suicide with a > > firearm > > > than by any other means, and 34% of all firearm suicides are > > committed > > > by individuals aged 55 and older. More than half of all suicides > > among > > > Americans of any age are committed with a firearm. That is an > > > extremely high percentage when compared to the second most common > > > category of suicide b hanging, strangulation and suffocation b > > which > > > accounted for 18.6% of all suicides in 1999. 11 > > > > > > Suicidal behavior is complex and has multiple causes. No single > > change > > > in law or medical practice procedures will solve the problem, and > > > there are certainly ways to commit suicide without a firearm. But > > > suicide attempts using firearms are particularly deadly: evidence > > > indicates that 90% of suicide attempts involving firearms will > > result > > > in death. 12 We can reduce this tragic waste of human life by > > > increasing public attention to the strong link between suicide and > > > firearms, increasing the medical community's focus on early > > warning > > > signs of depression and other predisposing disorders, and adopting > > > rational firearm injury prevention policies. > > > > > > Homicide is also a multi-causal problem. Contrary to popular > > > perception, the majority of firearm homicides are not the result > > of > > > bstranger danger crime,b but rather the result of intimate > > partner > > > violence or an argument between people who know each other. In > > 2000, > > > the number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate > > > acquaintance was nearly 4 times higher than the number murdered by > > > male strangers using all weapons combined. 13 DAHI recommends > > adopting > > > policies to reduce the easy availability of firearms to prohibited > > > persons and engaging the medical community to more readily screen > > for > > > firearm accessibility, signs of violence in the home and unsafe gun > > > storage. Unintentional deaths and injuries represent perhaps the > > > most preventable firearm-related incidents. In 2001, 4,160 youths > > aged > > > 0-18 suffered from unintentional, nonfatal gunshot wounds. 14 > > > > > > > > > In 2000, unintentional firearm deaths claimed 67 children between > > the > > > ages of 5 and 14. 15 By counseling parents about the inherent > > risks > > > associated with firearms, particularly handguns, and by deploying > > > existing technology aimed at reducing childrenbs access to such > > > weapons, the number of unintentional firearm injuries and deaths > > can be > > > dramatically reduced. > > > > > > Progress is Being Made Despite the disturbing data, progress can > > b and > > > has b been made. There has been a decline in overall firearm > > deaths and > > > injuries in recent years. From 1993 to 1999, firearm-related > > deaths > > > declined from approximately 40,000 to approximately 28,000, > > primarily > > > due to a decrease in homicides. 16 A number of factors may explain > > this > > > positive trend: a better economy, changing attitudes toward > > violence, > > > advanced practices in emergency health care, legislative > > initiatives, > > > and increased awareness of the potential danger of firearms. > > > Although current trends are favorable, this country still faces an > > > unacceptable level of loss of life associated with firearms, > > handguns > > > especially. This is a time to build on past success and test new > > > methods. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Em > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > Sent: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) > > > > > > Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes I > > think > > > it > > > might be best to have one. > > > While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it is > > > fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. And > > we do > > > hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. > > > I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. > > > My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess if > > > someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, > > non-violent > > > thief, I might regret the no gun decision. > > > But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who DO > > live > > > in an area like you described would be. > > > In other words if I *did* live in a place that rough...not sure I'd > > > tend to be *less* anti-gun. > > > hmmm... > > > Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: guns: (njc) Brad, well I wasn't being facetious. I have a hunch that the bright no more SS future is going to see bunches of future old people wanting a way out. Em - --- Brad McMillan wrote: > Em; > I was being facetious. > In depessing times, so far, whenever in examining options, checking > out > early has crossed my mind, I have always rejected it out of hand. I > figure > that no matter how bleak things seem, they can still get better, but > I > wouldn't know if I took my own life. Of course, a painful, terminal > illness > might change my mind. > > I was taught to respect firearms as dangerous tools at an early age. > Whenever someone edges towards outlawing firearms as a cure for > violence, I > chaff at the illogic of that position. Gee, I guess we should do away > with > automobiles, chainsaws, motorcycles, power boats, and anything else > people > frequently hurt themselves or others with. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Em" > To: "Brad McMillan" ; ; > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > > > > Brad I gotta admit I pretty much had the same sort of thought. > Don't > > own one yet. Maybe never will. But if I ever do buy one it will > > probably be as "insurance". Too old too poor too miserable, no > > hope...eat the gun. Maybe by then they'll make a socially > acceptable > > pill for that. > > Em > > > > --- Brad McMillan wrote: > > > > > I, for one, am glad that I own firearms after reading that > article. > > > I'm > > > happy to know that if I ever get depressed enough, I can eat a > gun > > > instead > > > of dangling from a rope until I suffocate. That sounds horrible > to > > > me. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: guns: (njc) > > > > > > > > > > This is from Doctors Against Handgun Injury (DAHI) > > > > > > > > Types of Firearm Death and Injury > > > > > > > > While most of the public debate about firearms focuses on > > > homicides, > > > > the data demonstrate that more than half (58%) of all > > > firearm-related > > > > deaths are a result of suicide. 9 This substantial component > of > > > the > > > > gun injury problem is plainly a public health issue and > clearly > > > > requires attention, not only because of the size of the > problem, > > > but > > > > also because suicide is highly preventable. > > > > > > > > Demographically, young people and the elderly are at particular > > > risk > > > > for suicide. More young people aged 15-24 commit suicide with a > > > firearm > > > > than by any other means, and 34% of all firearm suicides are > > > committed > > > > by individuals aged 55 and older. More than half of all > suicides > > > among > > > > Americans of any age are committed with a firearm. That is an > > > > extremely high percentage when compared to the second most > common > > > > category of suicide b hanging, strangulation and suffocation > b > > > which > > > > accounted for 18.6% of all suicides in 1999. 11 > > > > > > > > Suicidal behavior is complex and has multiple causes. No single > > > change > > > > in law or medical practice procedures will solve the problem, > and > > > > there are certainly ways to commit suicide without a firearm. > But > > > > suicide attempts using firearms are particularly deadly: > evidence > > > > indicates that 90% of suicide attempts involving firearms will > > > result > > > > in death. 12 We can reduce this tragic waste of human life by > > > > increasing public attention to the strong link between suicide > and > > > > firearms, increasing the medical community's focus on early > > > warning > > > > signs of depression and other predisposing disorders, and > adopting > > > > rational firearm injury prevention policies. > > > > > > > > Homicide is also a multi-causal problem. Contrary to popular > > > > perception, the majority of firearm homicides are not the > result > > > of > > > > bstranger danger crime,b but rather the result of intimate > > > partner > > > > violence or an argument between people who know each other. In > > > 2000, > > > > the number of females shot and killed by their husband or > intimate > > > > acquaintance was nearly 4 times higher than the number > murdered by > > > > male strangers using all weapons combined. 13 DAHI recommends > > > adopting > > > > policies to reduce the easy availability of firearms to > prohibited > > > > persons and engaging the medical community to more readily > screen > > > for > > > > firearm accessibility, signs of violence in the home and unsafe > gun > > > > storage. Unintentional deaths and injuries represent perhaps > the > > > > most preventable firearm-related incidents. In 2001, 4,160 > youths > > > aged > > > > 0-18 suffered from unintentional, nonfatal gunshot wounds. 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > In 2000, unintentional firearm deaths claimed 67 children > between > > > the > > > > ages of 5 and 14. 15 By counseling parents about the inherent > > > risks > > > > associated with firearms, particularly handguns, and by > deploying > > > > existing technology aimed at reducing childrenbs access to > such > > > > weapons, the number of unintentional firearm injuries and > deaths > > > can be > > > > dramatically reduced. > > > > > > > > Progress is Being Made Despite the disturbing data, progress > can > > > b and > > > > has b been made. There has been a decline in overall firearm > > > deaths and > > > > injuries in recent years. From 1993 to 1999, firearm-related > > > deaths > > > > declined from approximately 40,000 to approximately 28,000, > > > primarily > > > > due to a decrease in homicides. 16 A number of factors may > explain > > > this > > > > positive trend: a better economy, changing attitudes toward > > > violence, > > > > advanced practices in emergency health care, legislative > > > initiatives, > > > > and increased awareness of the potential danger of firearms. > > > > Although current trends are favorable, this country still faces > an > > > > unacceptable level of loss of life associated with firearms, > > > handguns > > > > especially. This is a time to build on past success and test > new > > > > methods. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Em > > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > > Sent: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Subject: Re: guns: quoting Joni (njc) > > > > > > > > Hi Anne, no guns here..have never owned one...but sometimes > I > > > think > > > > it > > > > might be best to have one. > > > > While my neighborhood is not as rough as what you describe, it > is > > > > fairly rough - home invasions, for instance are not uncommon. > And > > > we do > > > > hear gunfire from time to time. No clue who's shooting. > > > > I find it hard to be absolutely pro or con. > > > > My personal choice thus far is not to own a gun...but I guess > if > > > > someone busts into my house...unless he or she is a gentle, > > > non-violent > > > > thief, I might regret the no gun decision. > > > > But I have to wonder, in general, what the stance of people who > DO > === message truncated === ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #185 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)