From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #183 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, May 1 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 183 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Speaking of Tori.... ["Paul Castle" ] Re: from just-ice to just re-released joni music ["mike pritchard" ] Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! [Bob ] Re: swingin' chicks of the 60s njc ["gene mock" ] Alanis at Starbucks, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RE: DVD question NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: DVD question NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc [Catherine McKay ] Subject: DVD question NJC ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! [Catherine McKay ] Thank you Florida njc [Brian Gross ] Re: Speaking of Tori.... [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: Thank you Florida njc [Randy Remote ] the last waltz ["gene mock" ] Re: Thank you Florida njc [Catherine McKay ] NJC Re: Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! [Bob Muller ] Re: Thank you Florida njc [Em ] Re: Speaking of Tori.... now njc [Bob Muller ] Re: "Dated" terms in Joni's songs [Melissa Gibbs ] Bite Me Florida njc [jrmco1@aol.com] Re: Bite Me Florida njc [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:59:52 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Speaking of Tori.... From an interview with Tori Amos in Feb 05 edition of UK magazine 'Word' > What's the best lyric you've ever heard?" > There's so many but I've always adored "I could drink a case of you, > darling / And I'd still be on my feet" by Joni Mitchell (A Case Of You > on the album Blue). Why? It's obvious! We all drink our men! I've > gotten drunk off my men loads of times and if you can make that > happen in a song, fantastic! It's both mediums working at once - > visual and sonic. And you can taste it too. This is a transcendental > lyric. It transforms itself. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:44:12 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: from just-ice to just re-released joni music >>talking about "up against the wall motherfucker" - rhino handmade has a david peel & the lower east side cd consisting of "have a marijuana", and "and the rest is history" plus two unreleased tracks.<< and then there's the opposite situation, for example on 'The Road to Venezuela', a Stackridge song (anyone remember them?) one hears 'as I walked along the shore' but when one consults the gatefold sleeve for lyrics one reads, 'whilst conversing with a whore'. Hardly 'feck', but these guys were English after all. mike in bcn np - Jeff Buckley - Grace (this gets better all the time) npimh - God Speed the Plough by Stackridge ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:07:41 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: "Dated" terms in Joni songs, njc Umm... "Breakfast Barney"? Barney is still on at breakfast time, but now he's purple and hangs out with Baby Bop. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:04:51 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on shelf Garrett wrote: DVD section. I was so impressed with this that i bought Refuge of the Roads. It was a little disappointing. Hi Garrett, As coincidence would have it, I bought this DVD too a few days ago... when I went to Best Buy to get "Songs of a Prairie Girl" which they didn't have and said they weren't going to stock. I have been enjoying Refuge of the Roads. I especially love Sweet Bird and Woodstock on this DVD. I also like the tour photo gallery that is included. Think I'll watch it now. Nice way to start the day. Smile! Love, Laura PS. Speaking of watching things... I've been watching fish. My hubby and I bought a 55 gallon fish tank and set it up yesterday. We are making a pond outside and are raising fish to populate the pond. I love to watch fish... so relaxing! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:52:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni on shelf now GHOTI - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > PS. Speaking of watching things... I've been > watching fish. My hubby and I > bought a 55 gallon fish tank and set it up > yesterday. We are making a pond > outside and are raising fish to populate the pond. > I love to watch fish... > so relaxing! Yes, fish are very cool to watch. My sister has a koi pond in her back yard. The koi hibernate over the winter. Once, they had to chase off a blue heron that spotted easy pickings as it was flying by, and decided to help itself to a fish dinner. Now they have some sort of net thing over the top to keep the herons out. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! Howdy gang - well, it's a beautiful first of May and here I sit with another most excellent compilation of Joni covers for y'all...before I begin, lemme give a shout out to the folks who helped bring this one to ya: Garret Anita Gabrielle Covers #64 runs 77 minutes long and contains 20 bonafide hits, some rarities, some boquets and some brickbats...here we go: 1. The Cantrells - You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio: Direct from Nashville, with banjo, dobro, and all the rest of the country trimmings - appropriate for this track which seems to get the C&W treatment quite often. Cool by me - gives the country fans something GOOD to listen to. 2. Susan Tedeschi - River: Bostonian singer/songwriter, Susan is categorized as a blues singer although she covers all genres, and quite well too I might add. This very fine version of River comes from one of her electric live shows. 3. Nyle Frank - Both Sides Now: We've heard from Nyle before, his Morning Morgantown & Circle Game have graced previous volumes - this one's from his latest release and is another lovely solo piano recording, very well paced. 4. Denise Jordan Finley - Michael From Mountains: From an independent release, Denise has a pretty pretty soprano and easily winds her way through Joni's lovely melody with piano and cello behind her which builds and adds on additional instrumention through this original arrangement. 5. The Pomaswank - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Nice loose lounge jazz version, strong players and expressive singing. Hey, hear it for yourself: http://www.ethanhein.com/bands.html#pomaswank 6. Rich And Nona - The Circle Game: Interesting because they start with the BSN riff and then launch into TCG as a duet with a chorus of voices behind them which is pretty effective. Not a bad version, but I don't think it ever made them rich, except of course for Rich who already was. 7. Senior Girls Chorus of Camp Blue Star - Both Sides Now: More campers...Camp Blue Star is actually only about an hour north of me in Hendersonville, NC...this group of young girls singing acapella has some nice voices in there but they're cursed by the one or two "Barney Fifes" in there who sing loud, proud, and awful. 8. Sharon Eusebe - River: Not too bad, this singer has been compared to Nina Simone and sings River in a lower alto range. 9. Anita Gabrielle - Woodstock: Anita's certainly done us proud! Our fellow JMDL'er, playing one of Joni's own guitars, turns in an electrifying take on the landmark song...this is a truly inspired and original version, with a revised verse added by Anita and also including a bit of Moby's "We Are All Made Of Stars". Bravo Anita...a beautiful recording from a beautiful spirit. 10. Rose Mary Rees - Chelsea Morning: Clear the dance floor! This is from a 12" dance record from the UK, this is one take, she does another version which we'll hear later on. She basically sings the melody over the synthesized rhythm machinery. 11. Mt. Hood Community College Vocal Jazz Ensemble - Both Sides Now: Another acapella version, these kids are a bit older (and a lot better) than the Blue Star campers...this is basically the Singers Unlimited arrangement which is to say that it's pretty cool and swings. 12. Pearls Before Swine - For Free: Tom Rapp's band Pearls Before Swine happened on the scene between 1965-71 and just recently released a rarities boxset, including this Joni cover which was an unreleased demo. Interesting trivia: Tom also wrote a song called "Wizard of Is", I almost flipped when I saw that on the tracklisting thinking it was another Joni cover! 13. Anne-Marie O'Farrell - Song To A Seagull: Really pretty Celtic harp, and used appropriately here to convey the soaring seagull, expressive and visual. I wish Anne-Marie's vocal matched her harp playing; not bad I suppose but not up to speed with her awesome harp. 14. Real Time - Carey: This UK quartet released this great and spirited version of Carey about a year ago. Great vocals, harmonies, and instrumentation too. 15. Tull Glazener & Jim Sperry - Both Sides Now: An instrumental dulcimer/guitar duet, these guys say that BSN was composed on dulcimer which is news to me (when did Joni take up the dulcimer?). Anyway, in spite of this information they turn in a very nice acoustic take on the franchise. 16. Volker Niehusmann & Christiane Weber - Michael From Mountains 17. Volker Niehusmann & Christiane Weber - Marcie 18. Volker Niehusmann & Christiane Weber - Cactus Tree: Here's a beautiful trio by a duo...from Germany, these two recorded a Joni tribute CD called "Another Blue", and it is really lovely. Volker plays guitar, Chritiane supplies the voce. Wow, really nice. More to come from this talented twosome, we'll start with 3 from STAS. 19. Oak Park/River Forest Junior High School Chorus - Both Sides Now: Well, let's see...we've had Seniors, College kids, it's only fair we throw a Junior High School Chorus in the mix as well...sorry Jerry, I couldn't find the recording by the old-timers at Shady Pines. But back to this recording from early seventies Chicago area. All in all, not too shabby - the Choral director knew enough to tell the Barney Fifes in the group to just move their mouths, but even then the harmony parts sort of run amuck toward the end - one can just see the poor director waving his/her baton excitedly trying to slow them down. 20. Robert Bobby - River: A nasally countrified version, Robert can't *quite* navigate the melodic stretch that this song requires, but gives it the ol' college try just the same which is fine by me - hey, they can't ALL sing like Dianne Reeves... And that brings us to the end of another in the never-ending series of our Joni Covers...thanks again to the folks who helped me gather the goodies, thanks to those of you out there whose interest keeps me searching, and thanks to those of you who read all the way to here. And stay tuned - I was glad to see the response I got last month for my #63 giveaway so I'll do it again with #64...after all, when you have something good, you don't want to keep it to yourself...hide it under a bushel...NO...I'm gonna let it shine! Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "Communication Breakdown" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:17:19 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: swingin' chicks of the 60s njc thanks, but why is truman capote considered a "swingin' chick?" gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smurf" To: Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: swingin' chicks of the 60s > Joni gets quite a write-up here: > > http://www.swinginchicks.com/joni_mitchell.htm > > Here's the complete list of swinging chicks. (See if > you can find your name!): > > Andress, Ursula (Bond Beauty, Dr.No, profiled in the > book) > Andrews, Julie (Movie Star, Mary Poppins) > Ann-Margret (Elvis Girl, Viva Las Vegas, profiled in > the book) > Asher, Jane (Girlfriend, of Paul McCartney, profiled > in the book) > Auger, Claudine (Bond Beauty, Thunderball, profiled > in the book) > Aulin, Ewa (Movie Star, Candy) > Baker, Carroll (Movie Star, Harlow, profiled in the > book) > Baker, Lisa (Model, '67 Playmate of the Year) > Bardot, Brigitte (Movie Star, Contempt, profiled in > the book) > Basil, Toni (Movie Star, Easy Rider) > Bianchi, Daniela (Bond Beauty, From Russia with Love, > profiled in the book) > Bisset, Jacqueline (Bond Beauty, Casino Royale, > profiled in the book) > Blackman, Honor (Bond Beauty, Goldfinger profiled in > the book) > Blackman, Joan (Elvis Girl, Blue Hawaii) > Boyd, Pattie (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. George Harrison, > profiled in the book) > Britt, May (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. Sammy Davis, Jr.) > Brown, Helen Gurley (Writer, Cosmopolitan Editor, > profiled in the book) > Budinger, Vicki (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. Tiny Tim) > Cannon, Dyan (Movie Star, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, > profiled in the book) > Capote, Truman (Writer, In Cold Blood) > Capucine (Movie Star, The Pink Panther, profiled in > the book) > Cardinale, Claudia (Movie Star, 8 1/2, profiled in > the book) > Carne, Judy (TV Star, "Laugh-In", profiled in the > book) > Carroll, Diahann (TV Star, "Julia", profiled in the > book) > Cartwright, Angela (TV Star, "Lost in Space", > profiled in the book) > Cher (Songbird, "I Got You Babe", profiled in the > book) > Christie, Julie (Movie Star, Darling, profiled in the > book) > Clark, Petula (Songbird, "Downtown", profiled in the > book) > Cline, Patsy (Songbird, "Crazy") > Collins, Judy (Songbird, "Both Sides Now") > Cox, Maureen (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. Ringo Starr) > Craig, Yvonne (TV Star, "Batman", profiled in the > book) > Dee, Sandra (Beach Girl, Gidget) > Deneuve, Catherine (Movie Star, Repulsion, profiled > in the book) > Des Barres, Pamela (Girlfriend/Wife, L.A. starlover) > DeShannon, Jackie (Songbird, "Put a Little Love in > Your Heart") > De Varona, Donna (Athlete, Olympic swimmer) > Dickinson, Angie (Movie Star, Ocean's Eleven, > profiled in the book) > Douglas, Donna (TV Star, "The Beverly Hillbillies", > profiled in the book) > Duke, Patty (TV Star, "The Patty Duke Show", profiled > in the book) > Dunaway, Faye (Movie Star, Bonnie and Clyde, profiled > in the book) > Eaton, Shirley (Bond Beauty, Goldfinger, profiled in > the book) > Eden, Barbara (TV Star, "I Dream of Jeannie", > profiled in the book) > Elliot, Mama Cass (Songbird, the Mamas and the Papas) > Ekberg, Anita (Movie Star, 4 for Texas, profiled in > the book) > Erickson, Dolores (Model, cover of Whipped Cream) > Fabares, Shelley (Elvis Girl, Girl Happy, profiled in > the book) > Faithfull, Marianne (Girlfriend, of Mick Jagger, > profiled in the book) > Farrow, Mia (Movie Star, Rosemary's Baby, profiled in > the book) > Feldon, Barbara (TV Star, "Get Smart", profiled in > the book) > Field, Sally (TV Star, "Gidget", profiled in the > book) > Fleming, Peggy (Athlete, Olympic skater, profiled in > the book) > Fonda, Jane (Movie Star, Barbarella, profiled in the > book) > Francis, Connie (Songbird, "Where the Boys Are") > Franklin, Aretha (Songbird, "Respect") > Funicello, Annette (Movie Star, Beach Blanket Bingo, > profiled in the book) > Garr, Teri (Elvis Girl, Fun in Acapulco) > Gentry, Bobbie (Songbird, "Ode to Billie Joe") > Gore, Lesley (Songbird, "It's My Party") > Hama, Mie (Bond Beauty, You Only Live Twice, profiled > in the book) > Harrison, Linda (Movie Star, Planet of the Apes, > profiled in the book) > Hart, Dolores (Elvis Girl, King Creole) > Hawn, Goldie (Movie Star, Cactus Flower, profiled in > the book) > Heatherton, Joey (Songbird, "The Dean Martin Show", > profiled in the book) > Hedren, Tippi (Movie Star, "The Birds", profiled in > the book) > Helm, Anne (Elvis Girl, Follow That Dream, profiled > in the book) > Hepburn, Audrey (Movie Star, My Fair Lady, profiled > in the book) > Hussey, Olivia (Movie Star, Romeo and Juliet, > profiled in the book) > Hyer, Martha (Movie Star, First Men in the Moon) > Jeffries, Fran (Songbird, "Sex and the Single Girl") > Jetson, Judy (TV Star, "The Jetsons", profiled in the > book) > Johnson, Betsey (Model, top American designer in the > '60s) > Johnson, Candy (Beach Girl, Beach Party) > Johnson, Jody (Telescopes) > Jones, Anissa (TV Star, "Family Affair") > Jones, Carolyn (TV Star, "The Addams Family", > profiled in the book) > Jones, Shirley (Movie Star, The Music Man) > Joplin, Janis (Songbird, "Piece of My Heart", > profiled in the book) > Kennedy, Jacqueline (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. JFK) > King, Billie Jean (Athlete, tennis champ) > Kristen, Marta (Beach Girl, Beach Blanket Bingo) > Langdon, Sue Ane (Elvis Girl, Roustabout) > Lavi, Daliah (Bond Beauty, Casino Royale) > Lawson, Linda (Songbird, and the movie Night Tide) > Leigh, Janet (Movie Star, Psycho, profiled in the > book) > Lipton, Peggy (TV Star, "The Mod Squad", profiled in > the book) > Little Red-Haired Girl, The (Girlfriend, of Charlie > Brown) > Lodge, Veronica (Girlfriend, of Archie Andrews in > Archie Comics, profiled in the book) > Lollobrigida, Gina (Movie Star, Come September) > Longet, Claudine (Songbird, "The Look of Love") > Loren, Donna (Beach Girl, Beach Blanket Bingo, > profiled in the book) > Loren, Sophia (Movie Star, Two Women, profiled in the > book) > Louise, Tina (TV Star, "Gilligan's Island", profiled > in the book) > Lulu (Songbird, "To Sir with Love", profiled in the > book) > Lynley, Carol (Movie Star, Bunny Lake Is Missing) > Lynn, Loretta (Songbird, "I'm a Honky Tonk Girl") > Lyon, Sue (Movie Star, Lolita, profiled in the book) > MacLaine, Shirley (Movie Star, The Apartment, > profiled in the book) > MacRae, Meredith (TV Star, "Petticoat Junction") > Mansfield, Jayne (Movie Star, Promises! Promises!, > profiled in the book) > Margolin, Janet (Movie Star, David & Lisa) > McBain, Diane (Elvis Girl, Spinout) > McKay, Catherine (Cuddly Canadian) > Merrill, Carol (TV Star, "Let's Make a Deal") > Mills, Hayley (Movie Star, The Parent Trap, profiled > in the book) > Mimieux, Yvette (Movie Star, The Time Machine) > Mitchell, Joni (Songbird, "Woodstock") > Mobley, Mary Ann (Elvis Girl, Harum Scarum, profiled > in the book) > Moffitt, Peggy (Model, Rudi Gernreich's fashions) > Monroe, Marilyn (Movie Star, The Misfits, profiled in > the book) > Montgomery, Elizabeth (TV Star, "Bewitched", profiled > in the book) > Moon, Kim (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. Keith Moon) > Moore, Mary Tyler (TV Star, "The Dick Van Dyke Show", > profiled in the book) > Morrison, Pamela (Girlfriend, of Jim Morrison) > Newmar, Julie (TV Star, "Batman", profiled in the > book) > Nichols, Nichelle (TV Star, "Star Trek", profiled in > the book) > Nico (Songbird, the Velvet Underground, profiled in > the book) > Noel, Chris (Beach Girl, Beach Ball, profiled in the > book) > Novak, Kim (Movie Star, Kiss Me, Stupid) > Nun, The Singing (Songbird, "Dominique") > Pallenberg, Anita (Girlfriend, of Keith Richards, > profiled in the book) > Parkins, Barbara (TV Star, "Peyton Place") > Parlette, Patti (Ooh, la la!) > Parks, Allison (Model, '66 Playmate of the Year) > Parrish, Julie (Elvis Girl, Paradise, Hawaiian Style, > profiled in the book) > Pettet, Joanna (Bond Beauty, Casino Royale) > Phillips, Michelle (Songbird, the Mamas and the > Papas, profiled in the book) > Plath, Sylvia (Writer, The Bell Jar) > Pleshette, Suzanne (Movie Star, Nevada Smith) > Powers, Stefanie (TV Star, "The Girl from > U.N.C.L.E.") > Presley, Priscilla (Girlfriend/Wife, Mrs. Elvis > Presley, profiled in the book) > Priest, Pat (TV Star, "The Munsters", profiled in the > book) > Prowse, Juliet (Elvis Girl, G.I. Blues, profiled in > the book) > Quant, Mary (Model, creator of the miniskirt, > profiled in the book) > Redgrave, Vanessa (Movie Star, Camelot, profiled in > the book) > Rigby, Cathy (Athlete, Olympic gymnast, profiled in > the book) > Rigg, Diana (Bond Beauty, On Her Majesty's Secret > Service, profiled in the book) > Ross, Katharine (Movie Star, The Graduate, profiled > in the book) > Rudolph, Wilma (Athlete, Olympic sprinter) > St. John, Jill (Movie Star, Tony Rome, profiled in > the book) > Scott, Janette (Movie Star, Crack in the World) > Seberg, Jean (Movie Star, Paint Your Wagon) > Sedgwick, Edie (Model, Andy Warhol's girl, profiled > in the book) > Shepherd, Cybill (Model, teen queen) > Shrimpton, Jean (Model, Yardley Cosmetics, profiled > in the book) > Sinatra, Nancy (Songbird, "Sugar Town", profiled in > the book) > Slick, Grace (Songbird, with Jefferson Airplane, > profiled in the book) > Sommer, Elke (Movie Star, A Shot in the Dark, > profiled in the book) > Springfield, Dusty (Songbird, "Son of a Preacher > Man", profiled in the book) > Stansfield, Ashara (Goldie Eyes) > Steele, Barbara (Movie Star, Black Sunday) > Steinem, Gloria (Writer, founder of Ms magazine) > Stevens, Connie (Beach Girl, "Hawaiian Eye") > Stevens, Inger (TV Star, "The Farmer's Daughter", > profiled in the book) > Stevens, Stella (Movie Star, The Nutty Professor, > profiled in the book) > Streisand, Barbra (Songbird, "People") > Susann, Jacqueline (Writer, Valley of the Dolls) > Tate, Sharon (Movie Star, Valley of the Dolls, > profiled in the book) > Taylor, Elizabeth (Movie Star, Cleopatra, profiled in > the book) > Taylor-Young, Leigh (TV Star, "Peyton Place") > Thomas, Marlo (TV Star, "That Girl", profiled in the > book) > Tiffin, Pamela (Movie Star, The Lively Set) > Travers, Mary (Songbird, Peter, Paul & Mary) > Tree, Penelope (Model, Vogue covergirl) > Turner, Tina (Songbird, Ike & Tina Turner, profiled > in the book) > Twiggy (Model, the face of Swingin' London, profiled > in the book) > Van Doren, Mamie (Movie Star, Sex Kittens Go to > College, profiled in the book) > Vetri, Victoria (Model, '68 Playmate of the Year, > profiled in the book) > Walley, Deborah (Beach Girl, Gidget Goes Hawaiian, > profiled in the book) > Warren, Lesley Ann (TV Star, "Cinderella") > Warwick, Dionne (Songbird, "Walk On By") > Welch, Raquel (Movie Star, Fantastic Voyage, profiled > in the book) > Weld, Tuesday (Elvis Girl, Wild in the Country, > profiled in the book) > Wells, Dawn (TV Star, "Gilligan's Island", profiled > in the book) > Wilkinson, June (Model, Playboy magazine) > Wood, Natalie (Movie Star, West Side Story, profiled > in the book) > Wynette, Tammy (Songbird, "Stand By Your Man") > Yarnall, Celeste (Elvis Girl, Live a Little, Love a > Little) > York, Francine (Elvis Girl, Tickle Me) > York, Susannah (Movie Star, Tom Jones) > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:43:23 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Alanis at Starbucks, njc I have 2 titles by Alanis around here, but... "It dilutes the quality" (Muller's phrase) of the Starbucks series when a collection that includes Ray fecking Charles, Bob fecking Dylan, Frank fecking Sinatra, and Joni fecking Mitchell is over-stretched to include Alanis. I haven't had my Sunday morning coffee, so I'll have to steal another line (from Ashara), to close. "What were they thinking?" Okay, I'm better now. Lama now playing: Patricia Barber's "A FORTNIGHT IN FRANCE" I love this disc. >Oh, No, Mr. Bill! Starbucks' new cd release is Jagged Little Pill Acoustic.> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:15:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc Is Alanis that bad? I've got "Jagged Little Pill" (but on tape, not on CD, and I haven't listened to it for a long time, but I kinda like a lot of the stuff on it.) To be honest, I lost interest after that and most of what I've heard since is pretty annoying, but it could be a lot worse. OTOH, I don't plan to buy this disc, because it's from... the evil... Starbucks (heh-heh-heh). I think you'd have to look at what other kinds of crap, um stuff, SB has put out in order to determine whether or not they were just trying to cash in. As if! :-/ - --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > I have 2 titles by Alanis around here, but... "It > dilutes the quality" > (Muller's phrase) of the Starbucks series when a > collection that includes > Ray fecking Charles, Bob fecking Dylan, Frank > fecking Sinatra, and Joni > fecking Mitchell is over-stretched to include > Alanis. [...] > > >Oh, No, Mr. Bill! Starbucks' new cd release is > Jagged Little Pill > Acoustic.> > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc They are releasing it to commemorate the kick off of her 10th Anniversary Jagged Little Pill Tour. Yuck. Jerry Catherine McKay said: > Is Alanis that bad? I've got "Jagged Little Pill" (but > on tape, not on CD, and I haven't listened to it for a > long time, but I kinda like a lot of the stuff on it.) > To be honest, I lost interest after that and most of > what I've heard since is pretty annoying, but it could > be a lot worse. OTOH, I don't plan to buy this disc, > because it's from... the evil... Starbucks > (heh-heh-heh). I think you'd have to look at what > other kinds of crap, um stuff, SB has put out in order > to determine whether or not they were just trying to > cash in. As if! :-/ > > > --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: >> I have 2 titles by Alanis around here, but... "It >> dilutes the quality" >> (Muller's phrase) of the Starbucks series when a >> collection that includes >> Ray fecking Charles, Bob fecking Dylan, Frank >> fecking Sinatra, and Joni >> fecking Mitchell is over-stretched to include >> Alanis. > > [...] > >> >> >Oh, No, Mr. Bill! Starbucks' new cd release is >> Jagged Little Pill >> Acoustic.> >> > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:13:49 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: DVD question NJC I don't think technology has quite been perfected when it comes to DVD players. Here is something..simple things you might try doing. (they have worked for me at times) Unplug your dvd then reinsert the Last Waltz or put in a DVD that you know works and then immediately take that one out and try the Last Waltz again. I wish you luck!! Bree >anybody ever buy a DVD and when you push play is says "error - playback >feature may not be available on this disc"??? >And this is on a commercial DVD, not a "burned" one or anything..its >the Last Waltz - playing it the first time - and I am so disapointed. >NEver had that happen before. Any clue for me? >thx >Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:17:40 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: DVD question NJC Oh...I didn't see this from Jerry when I replied to you...good little thing to remember. Bree > >FUNNY you said that! I pressed play real quick as soon as the tray was >in and it started. Didn't give it time to "confuse" itself, I guess. >Thanks Jerry! >Em >ps oooo, I would have hated it if I had the McGarrigle Hour and that >happened too! > > >--- "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the DVD world is not universal. I had the same thing > > happen > > to me with the McGarrigle Hour DVD. Try pushing play as the tray > > closes. > > That sometimes works. Most incompatibilty issues involve the menu > > reading > > and execution. Good luck. > > > > Jerry > > >thx > > > Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Alanis at Starbucks, njc Hmm, that's a statement right there. Who else has a 10th anniversary of a tour they did once? Someone seems to be basking in her own reflected glory. And we complain about Joni compilations? - --- "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > They are releasing it to commemorate the kick off of > her 10th Anniversary > Jagged Little Pill Tour. Yuck. > > Jerry > > Catherine McKay said: > > Is Alanis that bad? I've got "Jagged Little Pill" > (but > > on tape, not on CD, and I haven't listened to it > for a > > long time, but I kinda like a lot of the stuff on > it.) > > To be honest, I lost interest after that and most > of > > what I've heard since is pretty annoying, but it > could > > be a lot worse. OTOH, I don't plan to buy this > disc, > > because it's from... the evil... Starbucks > > (heh-heh-heh). I think you'd have to look at what > > other kinds of crap, um stuff, SB has put out in > order > > to determine whether or not they were just trying > to > > cash in. As if! :-/ Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:32:32 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: DVD question NJC Yup, sort of. When you put a DVD in the tray, it automatically loads the "table of contents". You're not supposed to press buttons while it loads I guess. I know you said you pressed "Play" but I suspect you pressed "Fast Forward". The publishing machinery doesn't want you to fast forward through the presentation of their logo or those reminders that copy rights are backed up by law. Their disc actually TELLS YOUR PLAYER that FF is not available to you, (the owner of the machine, and the licenssee of the copyright). The key is to start the DVD first, then start the popcorn. When you come back to the living room, you'll be set to rock. The Playboy Advisor PS, Congratulations on purchasing "The Last Waltz". I've spent many an hour with that collection. It's how I discovered Muddy Waters for example. JL Em asked the Playboy Advisor: >Anybody ever buy a DVD and when you push play is says "error - playback feature may not be available on this disc"??? And this is on a commercial DVD, not a "burned" one or anything..its the Last Waltz - playing it the first time - and I am so disapointed. NEver had that happen before. Any clue for> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! --- Bob Muller wrote: > Howdy gang - well, it's a beautiful first of May and > here I sit with another most excellent compilation > of Joni covers for y'all...before I begin, lemme > give a shout out to the folks who helped bring this > one to ya: > > Garret > Anita Gabrielle > > Covers #64 runs 77 minutes long and contains 20 > bonafide hits, some rarities, some boquets and some > brickbats...here we go: > [...] > 5. The Pomaswank - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: Nice loose > lounge jazz version, strong players and expressive > singing. Hey, hear it for yourself: > http://www.ethanhein.com/bands.html#pomaswank Verrry interresting. Didya notice they also do "Comes love"? (swingy!) And didya also notice, further down on this website, a mention of a group called "Petting Zoo" and the guy (Ethan Hein, i presume) says: "My girlfriend Anna fronts this jazz and arty pop group, which also includes ace upright bassist Chris Luard. We perform songs by Thelonious Monk, Joni Mitchell, Bjvrk, the Grateful Dead, Daniel Cole, Tim Eriksen, Talking Heads, and other diverse sources." Unfortunately, there are no mp3s of that, and that's all he wrote! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 11:01:31 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: swingin' chicks of the 60s njc Gene Mock wrote: > thanks, but why is truman capote considered a "swingin' chick?" > gene > Good question- Other questionable entries include Marilyn Monroe (dead in 1962, before the 60's started), Barbra Streisand (too mainstream to be a hip chick), Patsy Cline (50's), Audrey Hepburn (40's!), Billie Jean King (70's), The Singing Nun (or "Nun, The Singing"). On the plus side, they included Judy Jetson and the swingin'est 60's chick, Peggy Lipton. RR > > > http://www.swinginchicks.com/joni_mitchell.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Thank you Florida njc Hello fellow jmdlers. I've been out of town and out of touch for the past month. So in surfacing for a quick gulp of air before diving diving diving down again, I would like to thank those jmdlers from the sunshine state for leading the way in common sense legislation, as follows. Take care everyone. Brian, back in south jersey, one of the 'other' 12 states :-( where the rights of criminals outweigh those of law-abiding citizens (thanks to the corrupt politicians who run the place) >>FLORIDA ONCE AGAIN BREAKS NEW GROUND ON SELF-DEFENSE-- Governor Bush Signs "Castle Doctrine" Florida, which nearly two decades ago served as the model for the nation's "shall issue" Right-to-Carry laws (now in effect in 38 states), has once again broken new ground in the area of self-defense. On April 26, with former NRA President Marion P. Hammer looking on, Governor Jeb Bush (R) signed into law a bill that will allow Floridians to forcefully defend themselves against attackers without first having to try to escape. In a ceremony at the State Capitol, Bush signed SB-436-- Florida's "Castle Doctrine"--into law. Sponsored by Senator Durell Peaden (R-2) and Representative Dennis Baxley (R-24), the bill unanimously passed the Senate (39-0) and overwhelmingly passed in the House ( 94-20). Prior to signing this NRA-backed bill, Governor Bush said, "It's a good, common sense, anti-crime issue." The "Castle Doctrine" simply says that if a criminal breaks into your home, your occupied vehicle, or your place of business, you may presume he or she is there to do bodily harm and you may use necessary force against him or her. It also removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be, allowing you to stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. Furthermore, this law provides protection from criminal prosecution and civil litigation for those who defend themselves from criminal attack and prohibits criminals and their families from suing victims for injuring or killing their criminal attackers. Marion P. Hammer, current Executive Director of Unified Sportsmen of Florida, said: "Existing law is on the side of the criminal. The new law is on the side of the law-abiding victim. To suggest that you can't defend yourself against a rapist who's trying to drag you into an alley or against a car jacker who's trying to drag you out of your car is nonsense. The ability to protect yourself, your children, or your spouse is important, no matter where you are." In conclusion, Hammer said, "I want to thank Governor Bush and the bill sponsors, Senator Peaden and Representative Baxley, for supporting this vital measure. This law is about affirming that your home is your castle and, in Florida, you have a right to be absolutely safe inside its walls." The law will take effect on October 1, 2005. Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:44:48 -0400 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: Speaking of Tori.... Thanks for the link, Bob! Her cover of River on that site is quite nice, too. Unfotunately, IMHO, her new record is another snoozefest. - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller To: JMDL Sent: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Speaking of Tori.... As has been reported in this space, Tori has performed The Cirdle Game on her latest tour - here's her version (very nice btw) from her concert on 4/15: http://www.hereinmyhead.com/sounds/index.html It's about 7th or 8th down the list, just click on the song title to hear it, or right click and choose "save target as" to download and save it. The quality is very good, good enough to include on the latest Covers volume I'm working on (#73). My hats off to the Tori fans who are very much on top of things! Bob NP: Death Cab For Cutie, "Styrofoam Plates" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 15:01:11 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Thank you Florida njc This is awesome-and will usher in a new era in 'sport murder'. It works like this: you leave a TV or a bag of crack* or some other desirable 'criminal bait' just inside your door, sit back, and wait for the fun to begin! And what a great way to teach the kids to defend themselves, Mom! *(baking soda works fine, after all, you don't want to break the law!) Brian Gross wrote: > Governor > Jeb Bush (R) signed > The "Castle Doctrine" simply says that if a criminal breaks into your home, > your occupied vehicle, or your place of business, you may presume he or she is > there to do bodily harm and you may use necessary force against him or her. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:12:20 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: the last waltz i can't answer your question about the dvd other that the fact it might have been made for another region on our island earth. but you mention the "last waltz". i'm almost 60 and i watch it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. where have i been---------what a great movie!! because of the movie i bought the 4 cd box set that contains stories about "the band" and "the last waltz." there's a nice joni story in the booklet about the making of "TLW." goes like this, "the one i remember most was joni mitchell, says john simon, an early friend and musical associate of "the band" who produced "music from the big pink, coproduced "the band", and served as musical director for "the last waltz". the chords she played on the guitar were not standard. the guys would look at her left hand and go "what?" i remember this one quote from her: i said "what's that chord?" and she said, "i don't know the name of it. i tune my guitar this way, to make myself stupid'--in other word, to not fall into predetemined patterns, patterns she was used to. i had to figure out what the chords were, then figure out some way for the guys to play something that meshed with her." anyway, great movie and soundtrack. also in the 4cd set they have joni doing a falsetto backup for neil young on "helpless", herself doing coyote, shadows and light, and furry sings the blues. also like to welcome back kakki, i miss your p.o.v. and insight . congratulations julius---------dream come true!!! i probably would have wet my pants. take care all, gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" To: ; Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: RE: DVD question NJC > I don't think technology has quite been perfected when it comes to DVD > players. Here is something..simple things you might try doing. (they have > worked for me at times) Unplug your dvd then reinsert the Last Waltz or > put in a DVD that you know works and then immediately take that one out and > try the Last Waltz again. > > I wish you luck!! > > Bree > > >anybody ever buy a DVD and when you push play is says "error - playback > >feature may not be available on this disc"??? > >And this is on a commercial DVD, not a "burned" one or anything..its > >the Last Waltz - playing it the first time - and I am so disapointed. > >NEver had that happen before. Any clue for me? > >thx > >Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:43:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Thank you Florida njc Yeah, cool, eh? What a great way to get rid of people you don't like too! Invite 'em over, shoot 'em, and then get off by saying: "He started it!" - --- Randy Remote wrote: > This is awesome-and will usher in a new era in > 'sport murder'. > It works like this: you leave a TV or a bag of > crack* or some > other desirable 'criminal bait' just inside your > door, sit back, > and wait for the fun to begin! And what a great way > to teach > the kids to defend themselves, Mom! > > *(baking soda works fine, after all, you don't want > to break the law!) > > Brian Gross wrote: > > > Governor > > Jeb Bush (R) signed > > > The "Castle Doctrine" simply says that if a > criminal breaks into your home, > > your occupied vehicle, or your place of business, > you may presume he or she is > > there to do bodily harm and you may use necessary > force against him or her. > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm Covers 64! No, I didn't notice that at all Catherine - good catch! Let's hope they come out with something on disc or download - just what the world needs - more Joni covers. That, and the right to gun each other down in public of course. Bob NP: The Allman Brothers Band, "Trouble No More" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Speaking of Tori.... now njc - --- kjhsf@aol.com wrote: > Thanks for the link, Bob! Her cover of River on > that site is quite nice, too. Unfotunately, IMHO, > her new record is another snoozefest. > Y'know, I love Tori. I might never have listened to her, were it not for this list. Or maybe I would have. Who the hell knows? I haven't heard the new one yet, but I always wonder, WHY does she have to massacre vowels the way she does? I was listening to something the other day, i don't remember what it was, but my daughter wanted to know what language she was singing in! Uh, well, it's English, but there's something VERY strange about the way Tori pronounces her words that can be very annoying and distracting. Wuddup widdat? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Thank you Florida njc One man's freedom is another man's folly, and one man is the snake on the ground one day and the boot heel that treads on it the next. And its hard to know which will get injured more grievously in the interaction of boot heel to snake. Reminds me of this, from Dave Carter: "well i figure i'll make me a sign of my own take the stars and stripes and the skull and bones and the cross of Jesus and a golden crown and the serpent that bites when the boot grinds down tie it all together with a fine silk cord from the rusty antenna of my '63 ford now look over yonder, son, tell me whatcha see that's the flag of freedom, dontcha tread on me" delicate balance we've got going on, it seems. I'm thankful life is relatively sweet (for me) in the sometimes very scary State of Florida. Hope for all of you all too. Em ps: Brian, nice to see you pop your head up.... - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > Yeah, cool, eh? What a great way to get rid of people > you don't like too! Invite 'em over, shoot 'em, and > then get off by saying: "He started it!" > > --- Randy Remote wrote: > > This is awesome-and will usher in a new era in > > 'sport murder'. > > It works like this: you leave a TV or a bag of > > crack* or some > > other desirable 'criminal bait' just inside your > > door, sit back, > > and wait for the fun to begin! And what a great way > > to teach > > the kids to defend themselves, Mom! > > > > *(baking soda works fine, after all, you don't want > > to break the law!) > > > > Brian Gross wrote: > > > > > Governor > > > Jeb Bush (R) signed > > > > > The "Castle Doctrine" simply says that if a > > criminal breaks into your home, > > > your occupied vehicle, or your place of business, > > you may presume he or she is > > > there to do bodily harm and you may use necessary > > force against him or her. > > > > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Speaking of Tori.... now njc Beware the "Tori Trap"...she'll put out a good record and follow it with a real piece of poopy-stinky or a series of them. I bought about 2 or 3 post "Under The Pink" releases until I realized this. Now I wait and read LOTS of reviews before taking the plunge - I thought "Scarlet's Walk" was excellent, but I held off on her latest one "The Bee's Knees" or "Songs Of A Bee Girl" or whatever the heck it's called. And I'm glad I did - finally free of the Tori Trap. She's very talented but she can't always control it and harness it into something worthwhile & accessible. She should just go ahead and do a Joni tribute disc, she does a great job with Joni's material. Her cover project of a couple of years ago was a real stinker. Bob NP: Neil Young, "Birds" Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:52:54 +1000 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Re: "Dated" terms in Joni's songs How about "reel to reel" in Coyote. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:32:09 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Bite Me Florida njc Oh, Joy! More excuses to kill people with guns! And just in time for the long, hot summer. It's all so simple! Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Let's bust a cap in the mailman's ass when that 'criminal' pushes too hard on my door when putting mail in the slot. Or, damn it, the next time that kid's ball rolls into my yard, I'm going to settle it with my 9mm! Just sickening. - -Julius > > Brian Gross wrote: > > > Governor > > Jeb Bush (R) signed > > > The "Castle Doctrine" simply says that if a > criminal breaks into your home, > > your occupied vehicle, or your place of business, > you may presume he or she is > > there to do bodily harm and you may use necessary > force against him or her. > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Bite Me Florida njc It's not just sickening, Julius...it's WAY worse than that. I suppose pulling a gun on somebody who's robbing your business or breaking into your home is one thing, but THIS outlandish legislation "says people who have the right to carry a gun can shoot someone if they feel threatened by that person in public places. The gun law gives Florida residents expanded rights to use deadly force beyond the boundaries of their home including on the street, at work or in the car." http://www.axcessnews.com/national_043005b.shtml I mean...just stop and think this through...remember a number of years ago when the German tourists were shot & killed and how horrifying it was? Well, now if you're a tourist (I believe Florida does get one or two of them) and you're lost, you better not approach a native...odds are now that he or she will be packing heat and not just out walking in it. Sh*t, I thought SC was backwards but this really takes the cake. Look at someone funny...BLAM! Someone flips you off in traffic...BLAM! Some young black or hispanic walking towards you on the street...hell, we all KNOW they're criminals, right?....BLAM! Better safe than sorry after all. "Little kids packing guns to school"...yep, that Joni never lies, come to think of it. Bob, NP: Stan Ridgway, "Peg & Pete & Me" Make Yahoo! your home page ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #183 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)