From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #180 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, April 29 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 180 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: album question [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Joni [LCStanley7@aol.com] new Springsteen, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: fear, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: PROFOUND LYRICS NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Joni interviewed in new book [jrmco1@aol.com] Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! [Randy Remote ] CTV Website Photo ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: NUCLEAR POWER@!#?&!! -NJC i GUESS [Lori Fye ] Re: new Springsteen, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) [Bob Muller ] RE: new Springsteen, njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: album question [Randy Remote ] Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Springsteen on npr: tonight ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: new Springsteen, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni interviewed in new book ["Kakki" ] RE: new Springsteen, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) [Smurf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:38:16 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: album question Didn't Tom Scott first get noticed as a member of Shelley Manne's jazz group? I think that was about '69. Tell me the other names and I will tell you what I know about them from the jazz side. Of course you can look them up in the Leonard Feather/Ira Gitler volume THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF JAZZ DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:30:56 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni In a message dated 4/26/2005 10:01:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: Subject: new Springsteen, njc I picked up the new Springsteen. It's deeply discounted THIS WEEK at Best Buy because it's brand new. It plays on my SACD player at home, just fine. I haven't tried the DVD layer on the back yet. This disc is Springsteen in "Nebraska" mode, meaning very dark tales indeed. I hope these were inspired by a novel rather than his family life. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:33:39 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: fear, njc Kate wrote: I song I've always loved & it was joni who through that song first taught me about fear... I believe the way it is written is correct only because I think it is a profound truth... that fear can lead you to a new place (face your fear & do it anyway philosophy) or bury you... this profound choice has certainly been my experience... Hi Kate, I AA we say there are two ways to deal with fear: FEAR = Fuck Everything And Run or FEAR = Face Everything And Recover. 12 stepping stones... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:24:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) Hi all, Someone blessed me with some complimentary to see Sting at the Patriot Center (George Mason University) last night! I have always had a strong desire to see him in concert and my wish finally came true. He was amazing!!! The friend I went with (Rob had to work) told me that it reminded her of his Police days. It was Sting, two young guitarists and a drummer. That was it. He started off with "Spirits in the Material World" which is one of my favorite Police songs and ended the regular set with a version of "Roxanne" that was tremendous! He did songs that I knew like "Fields of Gold" but he also did a song which has the weirdest time signature called "I Hung My Head" which he also said Johnny Cash recorded. He did a Police song that I never heard of called "Voices in My Head" (I think) and turned us into his back-up singers. He said he had a spiritual debt to pay to those who made him successful so he did a song in tribute to the Beatles called "A Day in the Life". He did "Demolition Man" which is one of my favorites too. He did a song about foxes but I don't remember the name of it unfortunately. There was another song he did (Daggone it! I can't remember the name!) that was a Police song where he had this reggae grove going so strong all you could do was close your eyes and just grove to it. Then he started singing and his voice sounded just like Bob Marley's! I was amazed! During the concert a girl called out from the first few rows and screamed, "I want to kiss you!" He replied, "You want to kiss me? How old are you?" She said something we couldn't hear and then he replied, "I have a daughter your age!" and the whole arena burst into laughter. Sorry I can't remember the whole set list but there were songs on it I'd never heard before. He said in the beginning that he was going to do some old songs so he gave us fair warning. Personally, he could have pulled up a chair and talked to us for two hours and I would have been happy! His voice was scratchy when he talked but when he sang, he was in fine form. It made me feel better because I seem to struggle with that all the time to. When I sing, I am amazed that notes come out! Weird! Sting was dressed in all black and looked remarkably like he did when he was with the Police. His hair is blond again like it was at that time. I was amazed at his drummer. The guy rocked!!!! I know Sting is finnicky about his beats and timings butI could tell that he really liked this kid who was playing drums. He would turn around and play with him in a grove several times during the night. The funniest part of the concert happened several times. There was this girl somewhere that would get overcome with emotion during a song and she would just let out this this loud whoop. I spent most of the night trying to figure out where she was sitting! I could tell he was feeding off of the adulating and when we played his backup singers on "Voices in My Head", he said that our singing gave him chills up and down his spine. Well! Of course you know that elicited a roar from the crowd. The interaction was great! I'm sad to say that I spent almost as much time getting out of the parking lot as I did at the concert but it was well worth it! It was a tremendous evening!!!! Sherelle NPIMH-Roxanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:26:19 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Joni Won't Sing in Saskatoon Joni rules out singing in Saskatoon Last Updated: Apr 27 2005 06:01 PM CDT TORONTO - Music legend Joni Mitchell says Saskatchewan is in her veins, but she will not be performing at the Centennial gala in Saskatoon next month. Organizers said earlier this month that Mitchell, who grew up in Saskatoon, would be a guest at the musical event, but wouldn't sing. However, some fans have held out the hope for a surprise performance when the event is held May 19. Mitchell appeared to pour cold water on that notion Tuesday. "I've retired, basically," she said. "They wanted me to perform [for the centennial] but I don't do that anymore. I'm a painter now." The singer, known for her elastic vocals on songs like Big Yellow Taxi, also said she's dismayed at the current state of the music industry, which she sees as being dominated by economic b rather than artistic b considerations. Mitchell was speaking to the media for the release of her new album Songs of a Prairie Girlb her way of tipping her hat to Saskatchewan, the province where she came of age. The album does not contain any new material, but is instead a compilation of 13 songs that all touch on her home province in some way b tunes like Let The Wind Carry Me, Raised on Robbery and River. "You carry your childhood with you. Saskatchewan is in my veins," she said in an interview this week with the CTV morning show Canada AM. Born in Alberta in 1943, Mitchell moved with her family to Saskatoon b which she still considers her hometown b at the age of nine. According to Mitchell, many of her memories are of the prairie winters. "When I put this together I thought, 'Oh dear, it's all about wanting to get out of the cold,'" she said from her home in Los Angeles. - -End- - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:34:35 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Joni interviewed in new book This from www.contactmusic.com: JONI MITCHELL has paid former boyfriend JAMES TAYLOR the ultimate compliment in a new book - she says she's celibate because she couldn't find a lover who measured up to the singer. The reclusive BIG YELLOW TAXI legend agreed to be interviewed for NANCY ALSPAUGH's new book FEARLESS WOMEN, MID-LIFE PORTRAITS and confessed to the author that Taylor was the most amazing lover. Alspaugh says, "In the 1970s she was with GRAHAM NASH, DAVID CROSBY and JAMES TAYLOR was the best - just the best." 22/04/2005 19:25 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni Won't Sing in Saskatoon from the article Julius sent: > also said she's dismayed at the current state of the music industry, > which she sees as being dominated by economic b rather than artistic > b > considerations. and we hear variations of this all the time, right? What I don't *get* is if the whole "biz" is so rotten, why is Joni so attached to LA where she lives? Just seems it would reek constantly of the industry, much to her presumable nausea. I think there's 2 sides to that coin. She may find the "industry" rotten...but I think she's attracted to it too, somehow. So, for me, it makes it hard to take it seriously when she says these things. Especially in light of the fact that there is REALLY great music being put out on smaller, alternative labels. REALLY good music! As good as music's ever been, imho! I think its a sort of cop out to give that as an excuse. Sure the industry sucks - so don't be PART of the mainstream industry! Go underground! or at least "alternative"! I think she just ain't in the mood anymore. Which is fine, but why not just say what the truth really is. ok, thats all... Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:41:54 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) He didn't mention Joni? ;-) Great.. great report..Sherelle. Thanks so much!! (sorry you were stuck in all that traffic) I was just listening to Sting just last night..as his CD was one I tried out in my new CD changer in my car. Love... Bree >Hi all, >Someone blessed me with some complimentary to see Sting at the Patriot >Center (George Mason University) last night! I have always had a strong >desire to see him in concert and my wish finally came true. He was >amazing!!! The friend I went with (Rob had to work) told me that it >reminded her of his Police days. It was Sting, two young guitarists and a >drummer. That was it. He started off with "Spirits in the Material World" >which is one of my favorite Police songs and ended the regular set with a >version of "Roxanne" that was tremendous! He did songs that I knew like >"Fields of Gold" but he also did a song which has the weirdest time >signature called "I Hung My Head" which he also said Johnny Cash >recorded.to kiss me? How old are you?" She said something we couldn't hear >and then he replied, "I have a daughter your age!" and the whole arena >burst into laughter. from the crowd. The interaction was great! > >I'm sad to say that I spent almost as much time getting out of the parking >lot as I did at the concert but it was well worth it! It was a tremendous >evening!!!! > >Sherelle >NPIMH-Roxanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni interviewed in new book - --- jrmco1@aol.com wrote: > This from www.contactmusic.com: > > JONI MITCHELL has paid former boyfriend JAMES TAYLOR > the ultimate > compliment in a new book - she says she's celibate > because she couldn't > find a lover who measured up to the singer. > I know that book and that particular excerpt was mentioned before and I thought I would give it some time to see if it still struck me the same way on reading it later on. It does. Is it just me, or does it sound like a crock? Either someone is making stuff up, or misquoting Joan, or taking her out of context, or maybe she has either lost it, or is seriously living in the past - whaddya think, everyone? If she couldn't find a lover that measured up, why did it take her 30 or more years to figure this out, and how come she hasn't been celibate since then, rather than for the last however-long-it-has-been? Is this kind of like being a born-again virgin? How long does a person have to be celibate to be considered a born-again virgin? I guess I've run out of patience, but it sounds like either whining or tabloid stuff. How long can a person pine for the old boyfriend? If it was so great, how come it didn't last? and yadda yadda yadda. If she really feels this way, she should take a long hard look at what it was they had, why they broke up and so on, and then maybe realize, that it all happened for a reason. Or maybe she should listen to Piaf singing, "Je ne regrette rien." I'm giving Joan the benefit of the doubt, because it just sounds too stupid to be for real. Maybe it was meant as a joke, but it comes off as kind of embarassing. Is it just me? Julius, this most certainly isn't aimed at you! I never shoot the messenger, and your meeting-Joni story made me feel I was there, so I can think of no better emissary for this list than you - God love ya, darlin'! I'm a little impatient with people and life right now - - can'tcha tell? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:45:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) You are so welcome Bree!!!! Darn! No Joni but I do try to spread the word wherever I can. I also post on Michael McDonald's website and there was a perfect opportunity: A question was asked about whether or not people liked the black and white photo of "McD" (they call him) which appears on the opening page of the site. Of course you know I had to mention Joni's song Shadows and Light and throw in the line: "Every picture has it shadows and it has some source of light... blindness, blindness and sight..." Didn't Michael record on one of Joni's CD's? Sherelle >From: "Bree Mcdonough" >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: RE: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:41:54 -0400 > >He didn't mention Joni? ;-) Great.. great report..Sherelle. Thanks >so much!! (sorry you were stuck in all that traffic) I was just >listening to Sting just last night..as his CD was one I tried out in my new >CD changer in my car. > > >Love... >Bree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:11:10 +0100 From: John Sprackland Subject: Mingus on Cloud Nine Hey, I like the way that the album poll is shaping up... Blue closing the gap on Hejira, FTR stretching away from C&S, NRH hopping ahead of DJRD, and best of all... MINGUS UP TO NUMBER 9! Whoo-hoo!! (though I might have to transfer my advocacy to Clouds, which has replaced Mingus as the most under-rated album...IMHO). http://www.jmdl.com/poll/albumpoll.cfm John Southport UK NP: Milton Nascimento - Bridges (beautiful enough to break your heart!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:25:34 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: PROFOUND LYRICS NJC I'm listening to it at this very moment...very nice. Sweet. Thanks Smurf and Lori. Love... Bree Ps. I didn't hear the last stanza/verse ... "ALONE AND ALIVE" ?? >Have you heard "Rowing Song" yet? It's lovely (as is the rest of Patty's >cd). > >Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:55:42 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni interviewed in new book No worries here, Catherine dear. I just ran across the blurb and thought I'd post it for grins. The quote was obviously taken completely out of context, as the media is wont to do, more often than not. Besides, Joni's apparently hot for Gavin Newsome now. :-) - -Julius - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay To: jrmco1@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Joni interviewed in new book Julius, this most certainly isn't aimed at you! I never shoot the messenger, and your meeting-Joni story made me feel I was there, so I can think of no better emissary for this list than you - God love ya, darlin'! I'm a little impatient with people and life right now - - can'tcha tell? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:11:14 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! Sherelle Smith wrote: > I also post on > Michael McDonald's website . > Didn't Michael record on one of Joni's > CD's? > Yes, he sang with her on the MTV-rotated "Good Friends" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:11:17 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! Ahh....thank you Randy! I did not know that! Sherelle >From: Randy Remote >To: Sherelle Smith , joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:11:14 -0700 > >Sherelle Smith wrote: > > > I also post on > > Michael McDonald's website . > > Didn't Michael record on one of Joni's > > CD's? > > > >Yes, he sang with her on the MTV-rotated "Good Friends" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:21:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni interviewed in new book - --- jrmco1@aol.com wrote: > No worries here, Catherine dear. I just ran across > the blurb and > thought I'd post it for grins. The quote was > obviously taken > completely out of context, as the media is wont to > do, more often than > not. Besides, Joni's apparently hot for Gavin > Newsome now. :-) > > -Julius He is a hottie, isn't he? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:39:36 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: CTV Website Photo This CTV photo sure seems to get people going! I think it's just a bad still lifted from the video clip. When you see the whole clip on TV, Joni's face looks paler, but also more luminous and softer than the somewhat haggard face we see on the website photo. We can see that the skin around her neck, jawline and mouth is a little loose, as one might expect to see on a person over 60. If we could only all look that good at 61. CTV could have chosen a more flattering image. Goodness knows, we've all seen horrible photos of ourselves. IMO, this is simply a bad photo. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1114455404208_109864604/?hub=CanadaAM Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:26 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: NUCLEAR POWER@!#?&!! -NJC i GUESS > I am not overly critical of George Bush on most fronts but what the fuck > was > he thinging - nuclear energy?! In case you haven't realized it, Bush & Company care only about the money they can put in their pockets RIGHT NOW. They care nothing for anyone else's future, period. They never did. This can't be news to you! Lori, 0.4 miles from Shrub's house (at my new office in DC) ~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: new Springsteen, njc But Nebraska was literally a collection of acoustic demos he recorded on a four-track...D&D has a band behind him and full-blown production by Brendan O'Brien. Lyrically it tracks to Nebraska & Tom Joad, but to my ears it doesn't sound anything like those. Dark but not stark. I actually liken it musically to the vastly underrated Lucky Town/Human Touch duo. The bonus material on the DVD (five of the 12 songs on the CD) is more musically along the lines of Nebraska/TJ, acoustic Bruce unplugged and giving an extended intro into the songs and the project in general. (Needless to say, something like this from Joni would be incredible) Bob NP: Stevie, "If It's Magic" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) Hi Sherelle - thanks for the awesome review and stories! You mean to tell me that Sting MISSED the opportunity to bring you onstage and sing with him? That silly boy - all that tantric sex has made him light-headed I suppose. "I Hung My Head" is an interesting tune from his so-so record "Mercury Falling" like you say it has a most bizarre time sig to it. "Voices Inside My Head" is classic Police from Zenyatta Mondatta...you don't have ZM??? With "Don't Stand So Close To Me", "De Do Do Do...", "Canary In A Coalmine" and all the rest??? (Joni LOVED De Do Do Do, and borrowed heavily from it for "Shiny Toys"). Anyway, if you don't have Zenyatta Mondatta, it's like the Police just came out with a GREAT NEW RECORD, just for you baybee! Thanks again for a cool review. Bob NP: Joe Henry, "Dirty Magazine" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: album question Hi Zink, I've not the heard the LA Express album in question, with the exception of 'Love Poem' which features Joni on a scatty vocal. Musically I thought it sounded like very dated mid 70's jazz, which is to say like TV background music. I would venture to say that what makes Court & Spark so special and magical (and yes it is very much both of those and more) is the musical vision and leadership of Joni. But it looks like it's not so bad - here's the review of the record from allmusic.com: "Despite the absence of Joe Sample and Larry Carlton, Scott's L.A. Express remains very Crusaders-influenced on Tom Cat  a highly accessible jazz/funk/R&B date that, as commercial as it is, leaves room for inspired, blowing courtesy of both the leader and sidemen like electric guitarist Robben Ford and keyboardist Larry Nash. Sweaty, hard-hitting jazz-funk is the rule on such down-home grooves as "Good Evening Mr. & Mrs. America and All the Ships" and "Day Way," which allow the players to let loose, blow and say what needs to be said. "Love Poem" is a pleasant, likable piece of delicate mood music (but not "muzak"!) that features wordless vocals by pop/folk singer Joni Mitchell and has a slightly Flora Purim-ish appeal. Unfortunately, a CD as good as Tom Cat serves as a reminder of how dreadfully unimaginative most of Scott's GRP albums would be." Bob NP: Blue Mountain, "Myrna Lee" Make Yahoo! your home page ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:19:00 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: new Springsteen, njc Though I think Human Touch/Lucky town deserves to be underrated, and while I love both Nebraska and Tom Joad a lot, I also really love this new one. I have to live with it longer in order to articulate its virtues. I thought The Rising didn't even begin to live up to its hype, though it does have its powerful moments. Bruce is great at character studies and less great at sweeping political statements (in his songs, I appreciate his valiant, but unsuccessful efforts in the last election)--that's why Tom Joad works so well, and why The Rising has so many moments that strike me as phony--or at least canned. My 2 bucks worth for now - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:08 PM To: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: new Springsteen, njc But Nebraska was literally a collection of acoustic demos he recorded on a four-track...D&D has a band behind him and full-blown production by Brendan O'Brien. Lyrically it tracks to Nebraska & Tom Joad, but to my ears it doesn't sound anything like those. Dark but not stark. I actually liken it musically to the vastly underrated Lucky Town/Human Touch duo. The bonus material on the DVD (five of the 12 songs on the CD) is more musically along the lines of Nebraska/TJ, acoustic Bruce unplugged and giving an extended intro into the songs and the project in general. (Needless to say, something like this from Joni would be incredible) Bob NP: Stevie, "If It's Magic" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:29:07 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: album question Jeffrey Zinkerman wrote: > Can anyone give me some insight to the album - Tom Cat Tom Scott & The > L.A. Express From 1974 I haven't heard it in years, but remember it as being one of their better efforts. And the cover is a classic-the band members as cartoon animals. I remember them opening for Joni on the tour that became MOA- they came out sans Joni and played 25 minutes of blistering fusion- then our diva came onstage (first song: a rocking "This Flight Tonight") and the Berkeley crowd went nuts. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:00:08 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen Careful what you wish for. If we got bonus video from Joni this year, I fear we'd get an insightful 30 minute lecture in 3 parts: Part 1: The 4 races, Part 2: That Incredible Medicine Wheel Part 3: What a Fascinating Prophet Chief Seattle was... Seriously, here's my vision of a Dual Disc from Joni: 1. CD side: the first Carnegie Hall show. 2. DVD side: a.) Photo gallery: Joel's best stills from that night. b.) Joni reminisces about that night. Maybe Nash or her manager flesh out those bits in the PBS film for us. c.) the first Carnegie Hall show. I think this the night when people kept shouting out, "We love you, Joni." then Joni says, "Hmmm. Unconditional love! Hmmm-mm-mmnn." I hope I live to see this. I love that woman. Jim Bob Muller wrote: > But Nebraska was literally a collection of acoustic demos he > recorded on a four-track...D&D has a band behind him and full-blown > production by Brendan O'Brien. Lyrically it tracks to Nebraska & Tom > Joad, but to my ears it doesn't sound anything like those. Dark but > not stark. I actually liken it musically to the vastly underrated > Lucky Town/Human Touch duo. > > The bonus material on the DVD (five of the 12 songs on the CD) is > more musically along the lines of Nebraska/TJ, acoustic Bruce > unplugged and giving an extended intro into the songs and the > project in general. (Needless to say, something like this from Joni > would be incredible) > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:08:08 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Springsteen on npr: tonight I'm not sure if it's a syndicated program or if it's actually on npr. Anyway, my npr affiliate will carry it (what ever it is) at 9 PM eastern. I'll see if I can tape it. Consult your local listings. Your mileage may vary. See your doctor if symptoms persist. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: new Springsteen, njc Just curious as to what you think those are...I think people were expecting it to be grandiose political statements ala DED but for me, The Rising was only guilty of being too darn LONG. Cut Let's Be Friends (which sucks anyway), Nothing Man, Paradise and you've got a much stronger record I think. Regardless of that, I think that what Springsteen articulated was not any far-reaching political statements, but rather how the same simple characters in those small-town Nebraska/Joad setting deal with the reality of an unexplainable disaster like 9/11. Maybe I'm just not listening closely enough. And of course, The Rising on CD doesn't even come close to the same songs on stage where Bruce & The E-Streeters really brought them to life. Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "The Spider And The Fly" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen Subject: RE: Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen It would be an amazing goodwill gesture to her loyal fans. All of us Charlie Browns who say, "OK, Joni I believe you won't move the football." (tr. Won't give us another crappy CD of retreads that all work much better in their original contexts). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:22 PM To: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni needs a Dual Disc, was Re: new Springsteen Subject: Re: CTV Website Photo - --- Michael O'Malley wrote: > This CTV photo sure seems to get people going! I > think it's just a bad > still lifted from the video clip. When you see the > whole clip on TV, Joni's > face looks paler, but also more luminous and softer > than the somewhat > haggard face we see on the website photo. We can see > that the skin around > her neck, jawline and mouth is a little loose, as > one might expect to see on > a person over 60. If we could only all look that > good at 61. CTV could have > chosen a more flattering image. Goodness knows, > we've all seen horrible > photos of ourselves. IMO, this is simply a bad > photo. > Yeah, and I also think it was very sunny and that she may have had full sun on her, which made her skin look paler and more washed out. They could have picked a better shot. It doesn't even particularly look like Joni. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:28:44 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni interviewed in new book I haven't seen the book yet but heard about it when it was in process. Our own Coyote Rick is a friend and neighbor of one of the authors and actually supplied some fancy ashtrays for Joni for the interview and photo shoot! > > Is it just me, or does it sound like a crock? Either > someone is making stuff up, or misquoting Joan, or > taking her out of context, or maybe she has either > lost it, or is seriously living in the past - whaddya > think, everyone? It seriously doesn't sound like a crock to me or that she has lost it. I've always sensed JT was her one great love and it seems normal to me to reflect back on "the one." Graham Nash does the same about her all the time. > If she couldn't find a lover that measured up, why did > it take her 30 or more years to figure this out, Hope? ;-) > and how come she hasn't been celibate since then, rather > than for the last however-long-it-has-been? I don't think she should throw in the towel at this point, but who knows how she thinks? There's lots of hamburger days amongst the rare steak. Maybe she just doesn't want to settle anymore and is more content with the good memories. > How long can a person > pine for the old boyfriend? Forever. >If it was so great, how come it didn't last? His heroin habit and Carly Simon. >If she really feels this way, she should take a long hard > look at what it was they had, why they broke up and so > on, and then maybe realize, that it all happened for a > reason. LOL - what do you think the "For the Roses" album is? > I'm giving Joan the benefit of the doubt, because it > just sounds too stupid to be for real. We are all stupid sometimes, especially when we are being real. >Maybe it was meant as a joke, but it comes off as kind of > embarassing. She is being a bit funny in a wry way, but to me it is just being real and not embarrassing. > I'm a little impatient with people and life right now > - can'tcha tell? Ha - I know that feeling - it becomes more and more of a daily orientation - didn't know I'd get crotchety so (fairly) young. LOL Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: new Springsteen, njc - --- Bob Muller wrote: > I think that what Springsteen > articulated was not any far-reaching political > statements, but rather how the same simple > characters in those small-town Nebraska/Joad setting > deal with the reality of an unexplainable disaster > like 9/11. Maybe I'm just not listening closely > enough. Bob, that was very well said. I think that's it exactly. (Don't have the new one yet though.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:40:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Had a chance to see Sting last night! (NJC) Muller wrote: > That silly boy - all that tantric sex has made him > light-headed I suppose. > > "I Hung My Head" is an interesting tune Am I the only one who thought this was funny? If so, I am probably the only one who saw or remembers the Will Ferrell SNL skit from a couple of years ago in which he was supposed to be in a yoga class when, during one exercise, his mouth makes contact with... oh, nevermind. Filth. Nothing but filth everywhere you look since that hooligan Eminem arrived on the scene. I'll tell you, I'd like to tan his firm little hide but good. - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: CTV Website Photo - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > It doesn't even particularly look like > Joni. > I agree. John Kelly looks more like Joni than that photo does. - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #180 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)