From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #175 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 25 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 175 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: What a trend we have in Jesus! TM -- NJC [Les Irvin ] RE: 'Break, Blow, Burn' ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: 'Break, Blow, Burn' [Smurf ] njc, human rights in connecticut ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, human rights in connecticut ["Mark or Travis" ] njc, Mark goes to London ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, human rights in connecticut [Randy Remote ] Re: njc, human rights in connecticut [Catherine McKay ] Re: njc, Mark goes to London [Jamie Zubairi ] to hear Beaker Street, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Joni's hangout?? [Deb Messling ] Re: Porous with joni fever [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:01:17 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: What a trend we have in Jesus! TM -- NJC Clicking through these sites I found others that have kept me laughing for about an hour now: http://www.whitehouse.org/ http://www.georgewbush.org/ http://www.cafepress.com/thewhitehouse/ OK, I need to go lie down now... Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 04:56:42 -0400 From: "John T. Folden" Subject: Re: What a trend we have in Jesus! TM -- NJC I'd almost bet that a good number of these sites and others they link to are related to the ever classic, never tired, America's Best Christian - Betty Bowers! http://www.bettybowers.com/ John On Apr 24, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Les Irvin wrote: > Clicking through these sites I found others that have kept me laughing > for > about an hour now: > > http://www.whitehouse.org/ > http://www.georgewbush.org/ > http://www.cafepress.com/thewhitehouse/ > > OK, I need to go lie down now... > Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:04:48 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: 'Break, Blow, Burn' Forgive me if I've already missed commentary about it, but I understand that Camille Paglia's recent book 'Break, Blow, Burn' , analyzing '43 of the world best poems', treats a Joni lyric. So here we will find Joni's writing in company with Coleridge, Shelley, Blake, Whitman, Eliot, Lawrence, Pound, Ginsberg and Snyder. (hmmm, a largely dead bunch of white guys!) I'm dying to learn which lyric Paglia may have chosen (without actually having to buy the book!) Which of Joni's lyics would Paglia rate among a handful al all-time best poems? 'Empty, Try Another'? ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:33:53 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: 'Break, Blow, Burn' "Woodstock" It's short & you could read it in the store (or check it out of your library). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Eisenhardt Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:05 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: 'Break, Blow, Burn' Forgive me if I've already missed commentary about it, but I understand that Camille Paglia's recent book 'Break, Blow, Burn' , analyzing '43 of the world best poems', treats a Joni lyric. So here we will find Joni's writing in company with Coleridge, Shelley, Blake, Whitman, Eliot, Lawrence, Pound, Ginsberg and Snyder. (hmmm, a largely dead bunch of white guys!) I'm dying to learn which lyric Paglia may have chosen (without actually having to buy the book!) Which of Joni's lyics would Paglia rate among a handful al all-time best poems? 'Empty, Try Another'? ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:58:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: 'Break, Blow, Burn' Chuck ax: > I'm dying to learn which lyric Paglia may have > chosen (without > actually having to buy the book!) Die no more, Chuck. It's "Woodstock." (I'm sure Camille has her reasons for chosing that. Lord knows we all have our reasons for liking whatever Joni thing we like...) - --Smurf, who would have chosen "Dancin' Clown" just ro piss off Muller... Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:26:22 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, human rights in connecticut Chelsea morning from Morning Mansfieldtown in Connecticut! Since no one else has mentioned this, I figured I would pop in with this wonderful news. "Connecticut, in a historic step last week, became the first state to approve marriage-like civil unions for same-sex couples without the prodding of a court order." (David Crary, Associated Press). YAY!!!!! YAY FOR GAYS!!! Who says we're the land of steady habits? Three cheers for C O N N E C T I C U T ! However, "As in any civil rights movement,it's often three steps forward and two steps back," said Joe Solmonese of the Human Rights Campaign, the largest national gay-rights group. "Sometimes, we have all of that movement in the context of one week." He is referring to the the Texas House voting to bar gays from being foster parents (gee, what a surprise, eh?), and Washington state's 25-24 rejection of a gay rights bill. So close! That one particularly saddens me personally, because I have two dear friends at a university in Washington state who are on visas, and they could conceivably have to separate when S's visa expires. (V. is a professor and is getting a green card, but S. is not a professor.) I hope that never happens -- they are the most loving couple I ever met. Celebrate the progress where we find it, and keep on keepin' on, Joni brothers and sisters....we'll get back to that garden yet! Love and peace and human rights for all, Patti, eagerly awaiting more Joni reports from SF! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:02:55 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Combo for Joni I'd like to see Robert Sadin produce, because he got some great "takes" from Joni on Herbie Hancock's disc, "Gershwin's World". Piano: Herbie Hancock Bass: Ira Coleman (also on "Gershwin's World") Drums: Brian Blade Jim np: "The Man I Love" on the afore-mentioned album. Wayne Shorter is on this track; he plays an honest to goodness solo. When Joni produces, she gives him only enough room for tiny, 4 note phrases, between lyrics. I think we hear more interesting stuff from him when he has some room. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:10:29 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: njc, human rights in connecticut Patti Parlette wrote: Washington state's 25-24 rejection > of a gay rights bill. So close! That one particularly saddens me > personally, because I have two dear friends at a university in > Washington state who are on visas, and they could conceivably have > to > separate when S's visa expires. (V. is a professor and is getting a > green card, but S. is not a professor.) I hope that never > happens -- > they are the most loving couple I ever met. A disappointment for many of us, Patti. There is a lot of anger directed at Microsoft. They had supported this bill in the past but when it finally came up for vote in the legislature, they did nothing. A local evangelical minister is claiming to have successfully exerted pressure by threatening a boycott campaign against Microsoft. Microsoft, of course, denies bowing to pressure of any kind and says that they chose to focus on legislation that more directly affects their business. A California gay rights group is asking that an award given to Microsoft be returned. I'm sure there are many of Microsoft's employees who are not happy and I have heard some rumblings about a boycott amongst gays and those who are sypathetic. I hope your friends can both stay here. Many people just don't seem to realize how difficult it is for many gays. I don't like to get into criticism of anybody's religious beliefs, but it doesn't look like the new Pope is going to do anything to help us out and as long as religious institutions, particularly institutions as large and widespread as the Catholic Church, are maintaining that this basic, fundamental part of our lives is a sin, progress in gaining basic civil rights (right to marry and all that goes with that) is going to be nearly impossible. It's very discouraging. On a happier note, I'm flying to London this evening! I'm pumped! I'll be gone til May 11th and probably no internet access. I'm hoping to meet up with some of our British friends while in Merry Old England. Please don't talk about me when I'm gone.....(unless it's absolutely scandalous gossip!) Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:38:33 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: pat metheny NJC On the PMG's 'Speaking of Now' tour (and subsequent DVD) Pat Metheny played a small guitar on some songs, 'Map of the World / In her Family'. Is this simply a small guitar or does it have a different name? What advantage, if any, is there to playing this instrument on this song? mike in bcn NP PMG - How Insensitive ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:52:03 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Mark goes to London Mark E. in Seattle wrote: - ---- On a happier note, I'm flying to London this evening! I'm pumped! I'll be gone til May 11th and probably no internet access. I'm hoping to meet up with some of our British friends while in Merry Old England. Please don't talk about me when I'm gone.....(unless it's absolutely scandalous gossip!) - ---- Cool!! You're pumped? PUMP IT UP, brother! Bon voyage! Are you going to see Colin? I've been wondering about him....it seems like many dim years ago since we heard him here post to post. Hope he is okay. Will you seen our Queen of Queens Lulu? Anita, the first reviewer here? All those cool Stryngs people? Jamie Zoob? Azeem? Les? And you know...... So, you are off to the airport and your name stays in the jmdl news. Hope everything's first class and when the lights go down I hope you enjoy looking at the clouds from the other side. (Does ANYONE on this list ever take a plane ride and not think of Both Sides Now, and clouds' illusions, and Clouds? And then of course, it all comes down to you....Notre Joan!) Enjoy this flight tonight! Love and peace, Patti, still loving typing on her blue screen light ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:23:27 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: njc, human rights in connecticut Patti Parlette wrote: > "Connecticut, in a historic step last week, became the > first state to approve marriage-like civil unions for same-sex couples > without the prodding of a court order." Prodding! I get it! But really, good for CT. Maybe enlightenment is not completely extinct. Mark or Travis wrote: > as long > as religious institutions, particularly institutions as large and > widespread as the Catholic Church, are maintaining that this basic, > fundamental part of our lives is a sin, progress in gaining basic > civil rights (right to marry and all that goes with that) is going to > be nearly impossible. It's very discouraging. Luckily, not all Catholics or Christians...plus it's alot of Baptists, 7th Day Adventists, and just plain ole run of the mill homophobes. It's sick when they wrap themselves up in the Bible to support their hate, just to get God's endorsement. In reality, Jesus hung out with guys, so I have my theories.... > On a happier note, I'm flying to London this evening! I'm pumped! > I'll be gone til May 11th and probably no internet access. I'm hoping > to meet up with some of our British friends while in Merry Old > England. Dude, that's awesome! Have a great time! RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:43:26 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: pat metheny NJC mike pritchard wrote: > On the PMG's 'Speaking of Now' tour (and subsequent DVD) Pat Metheny played a > small guitar on some songs, 'Map of the World / In her Family'. Is this simply > a small guitar or does it have a different name? What advantage, if any, is > there to playing this instrument on this song? The main reason to switch guitars would probably be that you're looking for a different sound, since all guitars sound different from each other, some radically. Same goes for amplifiers. So probably he just wanted a different sound, but maybe the playing style on these songs was easier for him on a smaller instrument. I don't know what he's playing, if electric, it could be a 3/4 scale. Lennon's Ric in the early Beatles was a 3/4 scale. If acoustic, in the old days, Martin made "parlor guitars" that were small, also tenor guitars with 4 strings. They now make one they call the "Backpacker" that is thin, small and light, and has a very dulcimer-like sound. And of course, there are still 3/4 scale acoustics, often a young person's first instrument. Then there are all manner of lutes, bazukis, chinese banjos, charangos made out of armadillo shell, little African stick-string things, mandolins.. None of these are guitars, but cousins anyway. The other catagory would be the traveler guitars that basically have their ends cut of, to fit into overhead compartments and such-these are usually electric, and a great way for a guitarist to take along an ax. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, human rights in connecticut - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Patti Parlette wrote: > > > "Connecticut, in a historic step last week, > became the > > first state to approve marriage-like civil unions > for same-sex couples > > without the prodding of a court order." > > Prodding! I get it! > But really, good for CT. Maybe enlightenment is not > completely extinct. > > Mark or Travis wrote: > > > as long > > as religious institutions, particularly > institutions as large and > > widespread as the Catholic Church, are maintaining > that this basic, > > fundamental part of our lives is a sin, progress > in gaining basic > > civil rights (right to marry and all that goes > with that) is going to > > be nearly impossible. It's very discouraging. > > Luckily, not all Catholics or Christians...plus it's > alot of Baptists, > 7th Day Adventists, and just plain ole run of the > mill homophobes. > It's sick when they wrap themselves up in the Bible > to support > their hate, just to get God's endorsement. In > reality, Jesus hung out with > guys, so I have my theories.... > There was a full-page ad in yesterday's Toronto Star with a large photo of a man, woman and little girl that reads as follows: "We try to be open-minded... "That's part of getting along with our friends and neighbours, who may have different ideas about everything from fashion to art, politics to regliion. We believe it's healthy to have an exchange of opinions, and we believe diversity makes our country richer. "We also believe it's important to maintain the core values and beliefs that support families as the cornerstone o society. That's why we're worried about the effect same-sex marriage would have on families and the world our daughter grows up in. "There's a time for debate, but there's a point when you have to take a stand for what you believe. If you believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, let your Member of Parliament know. It's crucila that we all speak now." "If you believe marriage is between a man and a woman, please contact your MP now. To find out how, go to: www.marriagematter.ca focusonthefamily canada" Canada may be having another election shortly because the current Liberal government has a minority and is in a wee bit o' trouble over the sponsorship issue. Conservative (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) leader Stephen Harper (a very scary person, IMO) is calling for blood and an election (not necessarily in that order) and is rabidly against the gay marriage issue, and so groups like Focus on the Family are ramping up to make this THE issue. My belief, and hope, is that most Canadians may be so pissed off at the prospect of another election being forced so closely on the heels of the last one, that they will NOT vote for the Conservatives for forcing the issue, no matter how pissed off they may be at the Liberals for the sponsorship biz. It's kind of a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. In any case, we may also be in for a bit of a bumpy ride and it's bringing out the intolerant right, who like to paint themselves as tolerant. "I'm tolerant, but..." "I'm not racist, but..." "I don't mind people that are different from me, but..." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:54:36 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: trivial joni content The Portugese issue of DJRD (LP) was blue and white rather than the blue and burnt orange US & UK versions. Someone on ebay has one up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98910&item=4722291961&rd=1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:25:34 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: njc, Mark goes to London Mark! Let me know when you're in the UK give me a call Jamie Zoob > ---- > On a happier note, I'm flying to London this > evening! I'm pumped! I'll be > gone til May 11th and probably no internet access. > I'm hoping to meet up > with some of our British friends while in Merry Old > England. > > Please don't talk about me when I'm gone.....(unless > it's absolutely > scandalous gossip!) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:13:48 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: to hear Beaker Street, njc Sunday nights from 7 - midnight central time... I'm listening right now. _http://www.magic105fm.com/newstreaming.html_ (http://www.magic105fm.com/newstreaming.html) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:15:44 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni's hangout?? I know somebody who is going to California tomorrow and says he plans to visit the restaurant where Joni hangs out. He says it was a Mexican restaurant in the 70s. Anybody know this place? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:27:54 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Porous with joni fever Hi Patti I am WAY behind on the list cause of Jazz Fest (Lil Queenie sang an unbelievable Woodstock today with her big band. She saw me walk in the Jazz Tent right as she started the song and waved to me which made people turn around to gawk at me so I blew her kiss and pretending like I was somebody important) Anyways I had sent you an email after I received the Paz Pizza sign Thanks so much it is here in the studio as we speak. Hope all is well and Big congrats on the new MAC. You are now officially in the REAL inner circle. Best Paz P.S. HEY JULIUS Where the cluck is the report on the Joan????? AND the pics???? > > Paz (did you ever receive that "Paz's Pizza" sign I sent you at Christmas?) > and everyone else whose b/day I missed -- bless you! > > Emiliano, are you having a wonderful time? > > Smurfadelica, I still have to write you about ETTBarbara. > > Marianne, thanks for all the ha ha ha's! > > XO and Joni love to all, > > Patti, still with so much to say but I'd better get to bed! > > NP: Happy cheers from Red Sox fans on my TV....they just beat the Evil > Empire 8-5. Congrats, Anne! I'll bet JT was there again! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #175 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)