From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #168 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 19 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 168 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Michael Jackson, njc [Catherine McKay ] Judy sings Joni ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RV: We have a winner in the RR contest! [Emiliano ] Re: Michael Jackson, njc [kate@katebennett.com] RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Shawn Colvin, njc ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni History - The Early Days [Bob Muller ] Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC ["McMillan Brad" ] NJC Sherelle as Roberta - rockin' the house! ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu] Re: "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! [Bob Muller ] Johnnie Johnson, piano keys, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Okay, one last thought about capos (njc) [littlebreen@comcast.net] Joni piano arrangments/transcriptions [littlebreen@comcast.net] Shawn Colvin njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Beaker Street,sjc [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: Okay, one last thought about capos (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Joni's disdain of the music biz - can any one help? [Tejas4x4@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Michael Jackson, njc - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > I don't agree with what he did, but what I find > just as reprehensible is > that the parents of the kids gave them permission to > be in an unhealthy > situation. > No kidding! Then again, there is always that slight possibility that he didn't do it. I doubt it at this point, but there is a possibility. I did enjoy his music around the time of "Thriller" and so on. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Judy sings Joni Judy's new cd comes out tomorrow and I received my copy today. It is wonderful and her recording of Midway is magnificant. Bob, your copy for the Covers Project is on its way! Jerry np: Judy Collins - Sally Go 'Round the Roses ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:03:40 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: RV: We have a winner in the RR contest! Oh my dears! please forgive me, but as Walt is in Comcast and it rejects e-mails from my server, I can't get my response through to him, so I post it to the whole group. Joni content: I take the chance to announce that, at the web site announced below, there's a link to some artwork I've made myself for the wonderful shows I've got through the kindness of you-know-who: !Muchas Gracias! Please: Have a Wonderful time! (specially if you're Patti) Emiliano NP: Nanci Griffith & John Prine: Speed At The Sound Of Loneliness > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Emiliano [mailto:emilianopd@mundo-r.com] > Enviado el: lunes, 18 de abril de 2005 23:50 > Para: littlebreen@comcast.net > Asunto: RE: We have a winner in the RR contest! > > > Boa noite, coelhinho! > > you say: " -- if I find a way to go to the Eurofest in the South of > France"... > well, that would be a great chance for me to get this San Francisco > T-Shirt!!! > besides having the luck to meet you! > > It's you, really, who deserve a gift: what if you pick a couple > (or more) of > the unofficial recordings I've got? Please choose them at > http://geocities.com/garp_emiliano and tell me what you want... along with > your address, of course! > > One more suggestion: "you think you're immune" it's better > translated at "te > crees inmune": yes it seems like "you believe you're inmune", but idioms > like "I think it's gonna rain" or "do you think I'm sexy?" they actually > translate in Spanish into "Creo que va a llover" o "?Crees que soy sexy?" > so... > > Regarding italian... my best italian friend is very very occupied > these days > (nothing serious, only some legal issues regarding their house > and so) so I > can't ask him, but I'd say that "aspetta la TV"... aspetta isn't the right > verb here( I'm pretty sure, but I'll keep you updated on this... if you > still want to improve your great translation, for sure! > > well, it midnight here and I feel tired (yes, being Monday... and > the whole > bottle of wine I've swallowed with Marga, my wife, at a long and relaxing > after dinner really helps to it), so that's enough for today. > > I really hope to read more (and more and more) from you, and > really longing > to see you near Carcasonne this summer! > > !Abrazos! > Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:12:20 -0400 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC Richard; Do you remember an ancient tale about Martins changing a little in the late 70's or early 80's because of a ban on harvesting South American rosewood? I remember some rumour about them switching to African rosewood but it was supposed to be some kind of secret about when exactly that happened. They were supposedly working off stored, aged wood that they kept in vaults and it took them a few years to run out. Then there was the one about them hoarding this old wood that they only used for one off custom guitars. My D-35-6 is a 1967 model and my D-35-12 was made in '74. The new D-35's sound much 'brighter' than mine, but I like the mellow tones. How has your Guild aged? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: "'Randy Remote'" ; Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > I love dreadnoughts I have a 1973 Martin D-35 and a 1979 Guild D-40. Also a > Dobro, a Mexican-made Strat, and old Fender Musicmaster, a cheap Yamaha > 12-string, and my current favorite guitar: A National Tricone (one of the > new ones, not vintage--it just sounded so much better and it's blue in honor > of Picasso and Wallace Stevens). Also a piano, an autoharp and several > harmonicas. > > I do still love that Martin I've had for 32 years now. > > Music occupies an entire room in my house. > > And as Neil Young said, "Live Music is Better Bumper Stickers should be > issued!" Get well, Neil! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Randy > Remote > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:15 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > > > > Next topic: > > > Who makes the best production acoustic guitars today? > > Martins continue to have a loyal following. I've never owned one > (except for my oddball f-65 electric) but am thinking of remedying > that situation. > Santa Cruz are wonderful !!! I would love to have one, but they run > $3500 or so. > On the cheap end, Takemine makes a very respectable sounding and > playing acoustic for under $200. I don't know how they do it, even with > slave labor. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: Re: Michael Jackson, njc Hi Laura, I think MJ brings some of that press attention onto himself. Early on he jumped up on a car & danced for his fans. Outside the courtroom. Some of the info coming out in the courtroom is beyond what I imagined though it is common knowledge in this relatively small town that MJ is guilty. I usually don't like this kind of celeb trial fest stuff but its in our face all the time cuz its happening right here. The kid who originally accused MJ is my son's age. I remember how HUGE MJ was in those days with my son & his friends. I remember all the local kids that were being invited to visit his ranch, school kids, camp kids etc. I agree that it is hard to believe how the parents allowed such stuff but in some cases I think they had no idea what was going on until it had escalated. I think it is tragic that they dropped the case for $$ though. Just allowed him to keep doing what he was doing to others. Hard to believe that anyone would allow their kid near MJ after what happened a decade ago. Yet there are many of his fans that still feel he is innocent. Their camping out by the gate to his property. Strange people. > I don't agree with what he did, but what I find just as reprehensible is that the parents of the kids gave them permission to be in an unhealthy situation. Love, Laura< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:24:52 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC Not bad at all for the Guild--not like the Martin has. Apparently, from my quick google research, Martin stopped using Brazilian Rosewood by late 1969: http://www.martinguitar.com/history/dreadnought5.html My 1973 Martin D-35 was a replacement for my 1968 D-28, which was stolen at a gig (I was 18 in 1973 when it was stolen). My father (who was quite well-off) took pity on me and helped me pay for it. So, I got my first Martin, bought my first Joni record, and even got to see my first Joni Mitchell show (at the Cellar Door in DC, a 300 seat club) all in the same year--1968 (when I was 13). That 1967 guitar is a true keeper, Brad. How does it sound? Richard - -----Original Message----- From: McMillan Brad [mailto:bradmcmillan@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:12 PM To: Richard Flynn; 'Randy Remote'; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC Richard; Do you remember an ancient tale about Martins changing a little in the late 70's or early 80's because of a ban on harvesting South American rosewood? I remember some rumour about them switching to African rosewood but it was supposed to be some kind of secret about when exactly that happened. They were supposedly working off stored, aged wood that they kept in vaults and it took them a few years to run out. Then there was the one about them hoarding this old wood that they only used for one off custom guitars. My D-35-6 is a 1967 model and my D-35-12 was made in '74. The new D-35's sound much 'brighter' than mine, but I like the mellow tones. How has your Guild aged? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: "'Randy Remote'" ; Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > I love dreadnoughts I have a 1973 Martin D-35 and a 1979 Guild D-40. Also a > Dobro, a Mexican-made Strat, and old Fender Musicmaster, a cheap Yamaha > 12-string, and my current favorite guitar: A National Tricone (one of the > new ones, not vintage--it just sounded so much better and it's blue in honor > of Picasso and Wallace Stevens). Also a piano, an autoharp and several > harmonicas. > > I do still love that Martin I've had for 32 years now. > > Music occupies an entire room in my house. > > And as Neil Young said, "Live Music is Better Bumper Stickers should be > issued!" Get well, Neil! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Randy > Remote > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:15 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > > > > Next topic: > > > Who makes the best production acoustic guitars today? > > Martins continue to have a loyal following. I've never owned one > (except for my oddball f-65 electric) but am thinking of remedying > that situation. > Santa Cruz are wonderful !!! I would love to have one, but they run > $3500 or so. > On the cheap end, Takemine makes a very respectable sounding and > playing acoustic for under $200. I don't know how they do it, even with > slave labor. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:58:19 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc At least she's not making compilations. RR's look-alike Catherine McKay wrote: > Her "official" website on Sony (www.shawncolvin.com) > hasn't been updated in YEARS. Even the "hot off the > press" section hasn't been updated since 2001. Hardly > hot. Speaking of hit, it sounds to me like they've > dropped her like a hot potato. > Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:00:36 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Shawn Colvin, njc Amen. Another look-alike in SC RR's look-alike wrote: > At least she's not making compilations. > Catherine McKay wrote: >> Her "official" website on Sony (www.shawncolvin.com) >> hasn't been updated in YEARS. Even the "hot off the >> press" section hasn't been updated since 2001. Hardly >> hot. Speaking of hit, it sounds to me like they've >> dropped her like a hot potato. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Well yes, but Joni's recording wouldn't see the light of day until it was the B-side of "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio". Tom Rush was actually the first to record it, ahead of Hamilton. Anyway, your point is well taken - UFG would have been 'known' moreso than Play Little David Play regardless. Thanks Gary for sharing this great memory and setlist. Wish I had a copy of THIS one. Bob NP: The Brains, "See Me" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:14:38 -0400 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC Richard; you said: "So, I got my first Martin, bought my first Joni record, and even got to see my first Joni Mitchell show (at the Cellar Door in DC, a 300 seat club) all in the same year--1968 (when I was 13)." That was quite a year! I didn't 'get' Joni until 1970. I had been concentrating on P,P&M and Gordon Lightfoot and Judy Collins and Joan Baez. Then it finally came through that Joni Mitchell wrote the Judy Collins songs I liked. I really liked LOTC right away and then was bowled over by Blue. I began to learn that there was more to 'open tunings' than a simple dropped D! Then I learned that (;-) being able to play Joni was kind of a chick magnet: "Hey, who can sing this?" My ol D-35 has gotten deeper and mellower. I wouldn't call the tone 'muddy', but it's not the brassy sound of a new one. I probably play into that by using light guage strings. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: "'McMillan Brad'" ; "'Randy Remote'" ; Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > Not bad at all for the Guild--not like the Martin has. > > Apparently, from my quick google research, Martin stopped using Brazilian > Rosewood by late 1969: > > http://www.martinguitar.com/history/dreadnought5.html > > My 1973 Martin D-35 was a replacement for my 1968 D-28, which was stolen at > a gig (I was 18 in 1973 when it was stolen). My father (who was quite > well-off) took pity on me and helped me pay for it. > > So, I got my first Martin, bought my first Joni record, and even got to see > my first Joni Mitchell show (at the Cellar Door in DC, a 300 seat club) all > in the same year--1968 (when I was 13). > > That 1967 guitar is a true keeper, Brad. How does it sound? > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: McMillan Brad [mailto:bradmcmillan@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:12 PM > To: Richard Flynn; 'Randy Remote'; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > > Richard; > Do you remember an ancient tale about Martins changing a little in the late > 70's or early 80's because of a ban on harvesting South American rosewood? > I remember some rumour about them switching to African rosewood but it was > supposed to be some kind of secret about when exactly that happened. They > were supposedly working off stored, aged wood that they kept in vaults and > it took them a few years to run out. Then there was the one about them > hoarding this old wood that they only used for one off custom guitars. My > D-35-6 is a 1967 model and my D-35-12 was made in '74. The new D-35's sound > much 'brighter' than mine, but I like the mellow tones. > How has your Guild aged? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Flynn" > To: "'Randy Remote'" ; > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:28 PM > Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > > > > I love dreadnoughts I have a 1973 Martin D-35 and a 1979 Guild D-40. Also > a > > Dobro, a Mexican-made Strat, and old Fender Musicmaster, a cheap Yamaha > > 12-string, and my current favorite guitar: A National Tricone (one of the > > new ones, not vintage--it just sounded so much better and it's blue in > honor > > of Picasso and Wallace Stevens). Also a piano, an autoharp and several > > harmonicas. > > > > I do still love that Martin I've had for 32 years now. > > > > Music occupies an entire room in my house. > > > > And as Neil Young said, "Live Music is Better Bumper Stickers should be > > issued!" Get well, Neil! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Randy > > Remote > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:15 PM > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Fw: guitar ?? NJC > > > > > > Next topic: > > > > Who makes the best production acoustic guitars today? > > > > Martins continue to have a loyal following. I've never owned one > > (except for my oddball f-65 electric) but am thinking of remedying > > that situation. > > Santa Cruz are wonderful !!! I would love to have one, but they run > > $3500 or so. > > On the cheap end, Takemine makes a very respectable sounding and > > playing acoustic for under $200. I don't know how they do it, even with > > slave labor. > > RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:17:23 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC Sherelle as Roberta - rockin' the house! Dude, Thanks VERY much for the review. I wish I'd seen it but your review will have to do for now. I'll never forget the [first time] I heard Sherelle sing at Julie's. Jaws were dropped, that's for sure. Then, she dropped out for awhile. The Saturday night she sang at the Full Moon I'll never forget. There were quite a few wet eyes that night. As a wise woman once wrote, "The gift goes on..." Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY Sherelle and Chris at Full Moon in 2002: http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/album09/SA_0900PM_SHERELLE_composite_Roll_Z_by_Lama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:24:25 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni History - The Early Days Don't we all, dude? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 7:02 PM To: Jerry Notaro Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Well yes, but Joni's recording wouldn't see the light of day until it was the B-side of "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio". Tom Rush was actually the first to record it, ahead of Hamilton. Anyway, your point is well taken - UFG would have been 'known' moreso than Play Little David Play regardless. Thanks Gary for sharing this great memory and setlist. Wish I had a copy of THIS one. Bob NP: The Brains, "See Me" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:19:00 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Fw: guitar ?? NJC I have a Sigma Martin guitar which I've had since 1989 and I love it. Everytime someone new picks it up and plays it, they go 'Wow! Nice guitar!'. Sigma are the Korean factory that Martin USA sends their parts to (It's a Martin just assembled in Korea to make it cheaper, so I guess it's the production line that you're talking about). It's a smaller body than the dreadnought but it sings! Jamie Zoob Oh What do they know about living in turbulent underwear. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:39:18 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! Rex, A few. It looks like the cover photo was shot by Joni's long time guitar tech, photographer and friend, Joel Bernstein. If I recall correctly, he "pre-visualized" a photo of Joni skating (like "River") in a black dress ("like a Black Crow"). He shot the main photo you see on the cover of Hejira. For years I thought it was a desert floor, as in "driving across a burning desert" on DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER. Anyway, yes, the word on the JMDL is that most of the tracks are the studio tracks that many of us have enjoyed for decades. The exception this time around is "Paprika Plains". Joni said that she'd have someone adjust the pitch of the pianos. She spliced together at least 2 (but I'm thinking 3) piano ideas, caught on different pianos, in different studios on different days. Legend has it that when Joni first met Charles Mingus face-to-face, he "called" her on the mis-matched pianos but approved of her chutzpah and musicianship. It's implied that Paprika Plains was why Mr. Mingus sought her out for the collaboration that we now know as MINGUS. In North America, "Songs of A Prairie Girl" will be in stores next Monday (April 25, 2005). Sincerely, Lama Rex said, >I've heard news of a new compilation 'Songs of A Prairie Girl' coming out next week? (I'm sure it's already been discussed :s ) So I'm assuming it's just regular versions of the songs like the last two comp's...are there any other details to know about this release?> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:39:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! < He shot the main photo you see on the cover of Hejira.> The credits for the photos on Hejira are for Bernstein & Norman Seeff - I was always under the impression that Seeff took that classic cover shot, and Bernstein took the one of her skating away with her "crow wings". Not that it's a real big issue, mind you, but then again we are talking about THE BEST RECORD EVER MADE. And to further confuse things, there's more than one photo that makes up the Hejira cover, so it could be a composite from both. I believe that it will actually be available the following day. Typically the new releases are available on Tuesdays, and the 26th has been the advertised release date for SOAPG. Bob NP: Ani, "Cradle And All" (live version) Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin--sjc Hi Zack - thanks for the Shawn update...I was really bummed out by Whole New You, really sounds second rate next to her other work - uninspired. I'm glad to hear that she's working on a new project, and still find it hard to believe that she didn't include a Joni cover on her "Covers Girl" CD. Joni didn't really diss Shawn too badly - she just responded to comments that Shawn made about Joni being her inspiration by saying that her music wasn't like hers at all. You can go to the library (http://www.jmdl.com/library/), search on "Shawn" or "Colvin" and turn up the interview(s). I wonder too if there was a bit of jealousy involved because Larry was producing Shawn, and it's not like she's totally unattractive or anything. Bob NP: Genesis, "Mad Man Moon" Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:28:18 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Johnnie Johnson, piano keys, njc Calling on those pianist JMDLers again. I thought we had figured this matter out but now I'm more confused than ever: If you recall, initially it was Mike in Bcn who, with his usual sharp mind, asked about the difference between piano and guitar keys. This followed my quote of Keith Richards about Chuck Berry's songs being in piano keys. Chuck uses Bb, C, Eb, G Being on vacation I'm listening to lots of music and I just put on Blind Boy Fuller. In these 1935-39 recordings, he's either playing solo guitar or is sometimes accompanied by Blind Gary Davis on guitar and Bull City Red on washboard (couldn't resist the name dropping). No piano here anywhere. Yet, would you believe he's playing those "weird" keys, same as Chuck! What's going on here? Laurent PS. Thanks Mike for your mind-raising questions. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin--sjc Bob Muller said: > > Joni didn't really diss Shawn too badly - she just responded to comments > that Shawn made about Joni being her inspiration by saying that her music > wasn't like hers at all. I hear Joni say this often, and it bothers me, especially with her claims as artist. Many people are inspired to do their own work because of the work of another. It doesn't mean their work has to look or sound like those who inspire them. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:13:30 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Okay, one last thought about capos (njc) Forgive me, all, but I had one last thought about capos -- it was probably Capo Gigio on Ed Sullivan, who ruined their use for everyone else. Walt, who has the capo of gae on his pianner, since it hasn't been tuned in about 30 years, so everything's a half-step down. Maybe it's ani-caponated? - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:35:54 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni piano arrangments/transcriptions Howard said (to Seattle Mark): <> In related matters: In '03 I was working on reproducing the complete original piano opening to TLTISRichard (now aka Romancin' Rick), and will return to it soon. Also, I recently (thanks, Rob L!) got the sheet music to several early Joni songs, and am currently working on slightly more beefed-up arrangements to Melody In Your Name and Jeremy, the latter of which I worked up well enough to accompany someone singing it way back in '77 or '78. Finally, I started working some years back (in '02 or '03, I think) on a repeating bridge between the four "Christmasy" Joni songs (Magi, River, Chinese Cafe and Facelift) based on a wonderful cover of River that I heard once on one of my Cable TV channels (obviously the all-Xmas Channel that comes but once't a year) that repeated the line "Wish I may, wish I might..." and later "Wish I might, wish I may..." (Hey SCBob -- can you remind me which cover this is/was, and any chance I could get it from you?) I never got far with this project, other than a nearly complete Magi arrangment and a rather substantially different arrangement for Facelift for piano, but anyhoo: Anyone interested in *any* of the above, please feel free to contact me off-list, and I'll send stuff along as it gets finished. best to all, Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me Original message to the thread: >> >> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:15:55 -0700 >> From: "Mark or Travis" >> Subject: Playing Blue >> >> Today I received a used, soiled, dog-eared copy of the 'Joni Mitchell >> Complete Songbook Volume 2' that I bought from Ebay. I just fumbled, >> stumbled, banged and rumbled my way through the song 'Blue' on my >> keyboard for the first time. It took forever for me to get all the >> way through it but I played it. The transcription is pretty close to >> Joni's playing and I am just in awe of the beauty of it. What a >> thrill it is to play this music! Up until now I have had a very slim >> repertoire of very easy versions of such megahits as 'Scarborough >> Fair', 'Greensleeves', 'Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring', 'Die Lorelei', >> 'Fur Elise' and 'Moonlight Sonata'. On a good day I can get through >> the first four of these without too many wrong notes if I play them >> over and over a half dozen or so times. Now I really have something >> to aspire to! >> >> Mark E. in Seattle>>-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:45:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Shawn Colvin njc Is playing here in a few weeks... not sure if I'll go or if tickets are still available but if I do I'll let you all know what she is up to ... I've seen her quite a few times & she's always fabulous... a whole new you was not her best work, imo... no guitar & it really hurt the record ... I don't think she was inspired & she's said as much in interviews regarding this album... it is pretty normal to loose that song inspiration & focus it takes to fine tune songs cuz all the energy is going into the child as well it should be... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:14:38 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 Albany, New York knows Joni Mitchell. The Karner Blue butterfly has been cited as a reason for not building a shopping mall in the seventies. That didn't work. Then in the eighties - the butterfly once again was cited as a reason to minimize expansion of that mall. That didn't work. Tonight, listening to the news in Albany - the lead in to a story stated that a local politician cited Joni's lyrics when opposing a proposed hotel (not a parking lot) in the Pine Bush. If past behavior is any indicator of future behavior - that Karner Blue is doomed! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:17:19 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re: Beaker Street,sjc Beaker Street, SJC Anybody know of Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street from the 60's on? He's a friend of mine. He was literally broadcast all over the world back then and changed the course of what was being broadcast: Hey Laura, I always tell people about Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street and his soft spoken voice. Smooth like Barry White. That was the first underground AM station. I remember listening to KAAY Little Rock when I was about 14 or15, 1968 I lived in ST. Charles right outside St. Louis. I think it came on around Midnight.untill 2 or 3. He use to play "The SS Titanic" which was such a great song (you got to let it out Captain). He played Joni long before any FM or other stations in that area. I think it was the Red Barn head shop or venue he would advertise. I heard about "The Celebration of life Festival" on his station in 1971, so I graduated June 6th from high school my best friend and I left town the next day and hitchhiked to Baton Rouge for the 2 week festival. Acid booze and ass, lots of laughs, especially with the cactus buttons we ate. Thanks for the Blast from the past and tell old Clyde I'm still a fan. He's made history! Peace Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Okay, one last thought about capos (njc) - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > Forgive me, all, but I had one last thought about > capos -- it was probably Capo Gigio on Ed Sullivan, > who ruined their use for everyone else. > > Walt, who has the capo of gae on his pianner, since > it hasn't been tuned in about 30 years, so > everything's a half-step down. Maybe it's > ani-caponated? Or de-capo-tated! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:30:39 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Okay, one last thought about capos (njc) littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: >it was probably Capo Gigio on Ed Sullivan > > wasn't that Topo Gigio? Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:03:20 EDT From: Tejas4x4@aol.com Subject: Joni's disdain of the music biz - can any one help? Hello there! Does anyone know where I can find any information where Joni shares her disdain of the music industry. Interviews, articles etc..I seem to remember a lengthy interview that Joni did where pretty much all she talked about was that. I am writing a paper and collecting data at this point. Any guidance would be very appreciated. I am mostly a lurker and don't get in the pipe much but do know and have met a few of you. I do keep a pulse on the list though. GREAT group of people. Thanks in advance, Take Care, Frank ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #168 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)