From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #155 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 10 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 155 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Remember the post-cerebellic (if you can)! And Dead Popes Society(njc) [L] Joni reference. ["A. Millington" ] Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC [Smurf ] Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC ["Mark or Travis" <] Re: NJC Charlie Brown [Bob Muller ] RE: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: NJC Charlie Brown ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC [littlebreen@comcas] (njc) It's a natural fit! [littlebreen@comcast.net] Free Fiona Apple njc [Garret ] re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" ["mia ortlieb" ] NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" [Catherine McKay ] RE: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" [Smurf ] Re: (njc) It's a natural fit! [littlebreen@comcast.net] Re: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" [FMYFL@aol.com] Patti Griffin, and the Very Narrow Acoustic Band (njc) [littlebreen@comca] Laura Nyro (njc) [Gary Z ] Praire list from Rhino [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Re: Praire list from Rhino [Jamie Zubairi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:15:36 +0000 From: LITTLEbreen@comcast.net Subject: Remember the post-cerebellic (if you can)! And Dead Popes Society(njc) <> Hey, Brad -- 'Twere nice if it were so, but you're neglecting the pre- and post-cerebellic voting bloc idea I posted on a week or two ago -- people who do not yet have, or who have lost, brain function, seem to be being courted by the most right wing of the Republican Party, probably on the assumption that the RightWingWhackJobs will appeal to them in their state. This terrifies me, as I *have* brain damage, although at least of late, I seem to be pulling out of the worst of it, saving me from a fate worse than death. (Note to any moderate repubs on the list -- no offense intended -- my "attack" is on the extreme right wing of the party only -- otherwise, to each his own...) And, since I'm already being offensive, also apologies to any who might have admired the recently entombed, but in this fever of papal necrophilia, it horrified me that people are/were willing not only to stand in line for up to and over 24 hours to see a dead guy in a dress, but they spent their family vacation money -- or in some cases, their life savings -- to do so! really, if you want to see guys in dresses, you may do so here in SF -- a block from where I live, in fact, where one of the City's premiere drag bars [honest to god, while I was in the midst of this sentence, I got a call from a dear friend, Ana Yolanda, who said she was having a drink at Marlena's, said bar, before starting work on the graveyard shift at a local B&B, and I met a lovely person in an elegant black dress who was the spitting image of Maria Montez: "Geef me the Cobra Chewels!!!"] where one can meet a man in a dress who is alive, vivacious, charming, entertaining, and generally with better politics (for my money, at least) than the recently deceased pontiff. All for the price of a ticket to San Fran. Speaking of the pope-ster and our need for wisdom/guidance at this juncture, where are Sinead O'Connor and/or Don Novello when you need them? (Alas, I believe the latter may have died in recent years, and the former has apparently decided that discretion is the better part, etc., something I would do well to learn...) [I just googled Novello, and got the following tidbits, but did not learn whether he is still alive, as his career biogs seem to end in 2004, which means either that he is retired, or *really* retired, or the websites are substantially behind: *He once visited the Vatican in his costume for his character "Father Guido Sarducci" and was arrested by the Swiss Guards for "impersonating a priest" after he took several photographs in an area where photography is prohibited. The charges were later dropped, but the incident made news around the world. Novello later joked about the affair, suggesting that he might go to Utah and see if he could be arrested for impersonating a member of the Osmand family. * His brother Joe Novello is a Psychologist in Washington DC, who is married to the former Surgeon General Dr. Antonia Novello. * Filed to run for Governor of California, but did not complete all the paperwork...] Sorry again for the dyspepsia, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:41:21 +1000 From: "A. Millington" Subject: Joni reference. While listening to a talking tape/CD book in the car. The Walker by Jane Goodall read by Nicki Paull (Crime Fiction) Bolinda Audio Books 2004 Quote "London August 1971,Chapter 1 London was a wash with pale sunlight and Joni Mitchell was singing Chelsea Mooring in Briony's head as she was watching a real Chelsea morning through the cab window...." end quote ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC Walt wonders: > Speaking of the pope-ster and our need for > wisdom/guidance at this juncture, where are Sinead > O'Connor and/or Don Novello when you need them? > (Alas, I believe the latter may have died in recent > years > Don Novello, born 1/1/43, is still on this side of the grass, Walt, according to the folks at Dead or Alive Info << http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/pages/main >>. As for Sinead, whom Frank SInatra famously expressed a desire to "punch in the mouth," I found the following at << http://www.notbored.org/sinead.html >>, and it provides a postscript of sorts to the pope-ripping episode: "Eventually, Sinead O'Connor made her peace with the Pope. On 22 September 1997, in an interview with the Italian weekly newspaper Vita, she asked the Holy Father to forgive her. She claimed that her attack on the photo had been "a ridiculous act, the gesture of a girl rebel," which she did "because I was in rebellion against the faith, but I was still within the faith." Quoting St. Augustine, she went on to add, "Anger is the first step towards courage." Another courageous step Sinead took in the late 1990s was to join the congregation of the controversial Irish Bishop Michael Cox, who eventually ordained Sinead as a priest. Lacking a sense of humor, the Vatican has refused to recognize Sinead's membership in the priesthood, which the Pope considers "bizarre." This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, but the Pope is right: Sinead's story is a bizarre one." I also found out at the Dead or Alive site that Debralee Scott, an actress who played Hotzie Totzie on "Welcome Back, Kotter," died a few days ago. Oddly enough, she was EXACTLY THE SAME AGE as Catherine. It doesn't say what she died of, so I guess we can assume it was old age. Have a great weekend, everybody. XO, - --Smurf __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Charlie Brown LOL!!! The Charlie Brown special we never saw... http://www.uglyjackass.com/media/videos/?id=charlie_brown Bob NP: Gabe Pigg, "Big Yellow Taxi" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:23:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC - --- Smurf wrote: > Walt wonders: > > > Speaking of the pope-ster and our need for > > wisdom/guidance at this juncture, where are Sinead > > O'Connor and/or Don Novello when you need them? > As for Sinead, whom Frank SInatra famously expressed > a > desire to "punch in the mouth," I found the > following > at << http://www.notbored.org/sinead.html >>, and it > provides a postscript of sorts to the pope-ripping > episode: > > "Eventually, Sinead O'Connor made her peace with the > Pope. On 22 September 1997, in an interview with the > Italian weekly newspaper Vita, she asked the Holy > Father to forgive her. She claimed that her attack > on > the photo had been "a ridiculous act, the gesture of > a > girl rebel," which she did "because I was in > rebellion > against the faith, but I was still within the > faith." > Quoting St. Augustine, she went on to add, "Anger is > the first step towards courage." Another courageous > step Sinead took in the late 1990s was to join the > congregation of the controversial Irish Bishop > Michael > Cox, who eventually ordained Sinead as a priest. > Lacking a sense of humor, the Vatican has refused to > recognize Sinead's membership in the priesthood, > which > the Pope considers "bizarre." This is a case of the > pot calling the kettle black, but the Pope is right: > Sinead's story is a bizarre one." > Interesting that Sinead's name should come up. The other day, my daughter asked me who Sinead O'Connor was, so I did a google search and found a lot of the same weird stuff you did, Smurf. I find Sinead fascinatingly weird... kind of like you (heh-heh-heh). And then a day or two later, her name popped up on either the yahoo or sympatico website - she's doing a reggae album. Sinead O'Connor Recording Reggae Wed Mar 30, 2:39 PM ET Entertainment - AP Music By HOWARD CAMPBELL, Associated Press Writer KINGSTON, Jamaica - Sinead O'Connor is in Jamaica recording a reggae album with some of the country's leading musicians. The Irish pop singer has been in Kingston since last week working on tracks for the album, co-producer Sly Dunbar said Wednesday. He said the album, set for release this summer by British-based Sanctuary Records, will include covers of some of reggae's most famous protest songs  Bob Marley's "War," Peter Tosh's "Downpressor Man" and Burning Spear's "Marcus Garvey." Dunbar, a drummer, and Robbie Shakespeare, a bass player, are co-producing the album. They are believed to be one of the world's best rhythm sections. In 1980, they founded the Taxi record label, which has promoted the careers of stars such as Black Uhuru, Ini Kamoze, Beenie Man and Red Dragon. O'Connor, 38, is best known for her 1991 hit, "Nothing Compares 2 U." She famously tore up a photo of Pope John Paul II during a 1992 appearance on "Saturday Night Live." _________________________________________________ > I also found out at the Dead or Alive site that > Debralee Scott, an actress who played Hotzie Totzie > on > "Welcome Back, Kotter," died a few days ago. Oddly > enough, she was EXACTLY THE SAME AGE as Catherine. > It > doesn't say what she died of, so I guess we can > assume > it was old age. > Whether it was old age or something completely different, one thing is certain: she turned blue just before she died. (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:41:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC - --- Catherine wrote: > Smurf. I find Sinead > fascinatingly weird... kind of like you > (heh-heh-heh). > And then a day or two later, her name popped up on > either the yahoo or sympatico website - she's doing > a > reggae album. > (GASP!) And I just shaved my head the other day! SYNCHRO-JMDL! XO, - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:42:07 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC Hmmm, since her gorgeous album of originals she said that she was givin up the music business (she sent a formal letter to www.sineadoconnor.com) asking her fans to not ask her about when se was recording anything... So I find this surprising. Maybe it was a case of THe Jonies? Much Joni Jamie Zoob > > Interesting that Sinead's name should come up. The > other day, my daughter asked me who Sinead O'Connor > was, so I did a google search and found a lot of the > same weird stuff you did, Smurf. I find Sinead > fascinatingly weird... kind of like you > (heh-heh-heh). > And then a day or two later, her name popped up on > either the yahoo or sympatico website - she's doing > a > reggae album. > Sinead O'Connor Recording Reggae > Wed Mar 30, 2:39 PM ET Entertainment - AP Music > By HOWARD CAMPBELL, Associated Press Writer > > KINGSTON, Jamaica - Sinead O'Connor is in Jamaica > recording a reggae album with some of the country's > leading musicians. > > The Irish pop singer has been in Kingston since last > week working on tracks for the album, co-producer > Sly > Dunbar said Wednesday. > > He said the album, set for release this summer by > British-based Sanctuary Records, will include covers > of some of reggae's most famous protest songs  Bob > Marley's "War," Peter Tosh's "Downpressor Man" and > Burning Spear's "Marcus Garvey." > > Dunbar, a drummer, and Robbie Shakespeare, a bass > player, are co-producing the album. They are > believed > to be one of the world's best rhythm sections. In > 1980, they founded the Taxi record label, which has > promoted the careers of stars such as Black Uhuru, > Ini > Kamoze, Beenie Man and Red Dragon. > > O'Connor, 38, is best known for her 1991 hit, > "Nothing > Compares 2 U." > > She famously tore up a photo of Pope John Paul II > during a 1992 appearance on "Saturday Night Live." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:47:02 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC Charlie Brown Bob Muller wrote: > LOL!!! The Charlie Brown special we never saw... > > http://www.uglyjackass.com/media/videos/?id=charlie_brown > Who comes up with this stuff and where do they find the time? Charlie Brown meets South Park! lol! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:54:21 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > She famously tore up a photo of Pope John Paul II > during a 1992 appearance on "Saturday Night Live." > Apparently this incident is what Sinead will forever be remembered for. Never mind that she was a singer, she tore up a picture of the Pope on SNL. Bette Midler has said that when she dies her obit will read something like this: Singer Bette Midler Dies at 98 - Career Started at Continental Baths In spite of everything else some famous people accomplish, it seems that certain aspects of their lives stick in the public's perception and just don't go away. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Charlie Brown Hey, I don't know, Mark...I'm just glad they do. And speaking of Peanuts, isn't it kind of creepy that it (along with several other strips) is still going long after the writer/creator has died? It would be different if it was anywhere near humorous but it's just tired & predictably trite. Makes you appreciate the Gary Larson's of this world who know when to quit. Bob NP: Jethro Tull, "Back To The Family" (from Stand Up which might be my favorite Tull) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:39:45 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" NJC >Judy bleached her hair blond for the Wildflowers album, and for a short time she was a blonde. I saw her at Lisner auditorium as well as the Cellar Door. I miss that old scallywag of a President--at least he had some musical sense! < now THERE is a prez who has erred on the side of life! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:04:54 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC Charlie Brown Bob Muller wrote: >> > NP: Jethro Tull, "Back To The Family" (from Stand Up which might be > my favorite Tull) I bought the remaster with bonus tracks of this along with Benefit a while back. Stand Up really does stand up very well after all these years. Great record. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:13:25 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC Hi, all, Smurf said: "Don Novello, born 1/1/43, is still on this side of the grass, Walt, according to the folks at Dead or Alive Info <>." God, Bob, what a wonderful site! Thanks, and it's good to know that I'm not the only one with too much time on his hands. You will all find this out shortly, when i announce the "Romancin' Rick Contest". "As for Sinead, whom Frank SInatra famously expressed a desire to "punch in the mouth," I found the following at << http://www.notbored.org/sinead.html >>, and it provides a postscript of sorts to the pope-ripping episode: "Eventually, Sinead O'Connor made her peace with the Pope. On 22 September 1997, in an interview with the Italian weekly newspaper Vita, [snip]... Another courageous step Sinead took in the late 1990s was to join the congregation of the controversial Irish Bishop Michael Cox, who eventually ordained Sinead as a priest. Lacking a sense of humor, the Vatican has refused to recognize Sinead's membership in the priesthood, which the Pope considers "bizarre." This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black..." Ha!! Ain't it, though! "I also found out at the Dead or Alive site that Debralee Scott, an actress who played Hotzie Totzie on "Welcome Back, Kotter," died a few days ago. Oddly enough, she was EXACTLY THE SAME AGE as Catherine. It doesn't say what she died of, so I guess we can assume it was old age. " You are an unrepentant bitch -- if you and I weren't both such decrepit crones ourselves, I'd try to work up the energy to slap you, next time i see you! Hugs, Smurf, and all the bunnies at jmdl, Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > Walt wonders: > > > Speaking of the pope-ster and our need for > > wisdom/guidance at this juncture, where are Sinead > > O'Connor and/or Don Novello when you need them? > > (Alas, I believe the latter may have died in recent > > years > > > Don Novello, born 1/1/43, is still on this side of the > grass, Walt, according to the folks at Dead or Alive > Info << > http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/pages/main >>. > > > As for Sinead, whom Frank SInatra famously expressed a > desire to "punch in the mouth," I found the following > at << http://www.notbored.org/sinead.html >>, and it > provides a postscript of sorts to the pope-ripping > episode: > > "Eventually, Sinead O'Connor made her peace with the > Pope. On 22 September 1997, in an interview with the > Italian weekly newspaper Vita, she asked the Holy > Father to forgive her. She claimed that her attack on > the photo had been "a ridiculous act, the gesture of a > girl rebel," which she did "because I was in rebellion > against the faith, but I was still within the faith." > Quoting St. Augustine, she went on to add, "Anger is > the first step towards courage." Another courageous > step Sinead took in the late 1990s was to join the > congregation of the controversial Irish Bishop Michael > Cox, who eventually ordained Sinead as a priest. > Lacking a sense of humor, the Vatican has refused to > recognize Sinead's membership in the priesthood, which > the Pope considers "bizarre." This is a case of the > pot calling the kettle black, but the Pope is right: > Sinead's story is a bizarre one." > > I also found out at the Dead or Alive site that > Debralee Scott, an actress who played Hotzie Totzie on > "Welcome Back, Kotter," died a few days ago. Oddly > enough, she was EXACTLY THE SAME AGE as Catherine. It > doesn't say what she died of, so I guess we can assume > it was old age. > > Have a great weekend, everybody. > > XO, > > --Smurf > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail Mobile > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:18:32 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: (njc) It's a natural fit! Hi Catherine and Smurf and gang, Continuing our discussion of the never-boring Sinead O'Connor, Catherine said: <> Well, duh, Catherine, of *course* she is -- Doesn't every Irish lesbian prelate do that sooner or later? Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:34:50 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Free Fiona Apple njc I know there are some Fiona Apple fans on list. I didn't sign the Ashlee Simpson petition because i thought that unfair to her and her fans (i really don't like her music, but plenty of others do). But here is a Fiona Apple petition i did sign. This petition is for Sony/Epic to release Foina Apple's album "Extraordinary Machine" which was recorded two years ago and shelved as it had no obvious lead single. Now, i managed to download the track Extraordinary Machine and it really is fantastic (i'm one of those people who just can't seem to figure out downloading, i can never get it to work, even with the easy to use programmes you can find all over the net). The album was leaked onto the net by early March and was quite easy to find until RIAA got involved. Some Fiona fans are saying this is her best album. Sign the petition: www.freefiona.com An interesting opinion piece at this address: http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/music_review.asp?ID=561 So do a good thing for a great artist and sign the petition, if you have not done so already GARRET NP- Fiona Apple, Extraordinary Machine - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:26:54 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" Great writing from Jewel on Joni...but, how old is Jewel? I was about six or seven when Blue came out, and I know I am waaayyy older than Jewel. She speaks about history as if she were there: "When she first did it, it was a very fluffy time -- pretty girls singing about pretty things." Maybe her mom helped her write this, lol! Mia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" Jewel was born in May of 1974, so she would be 30, almost 31. Why she could practically be Catherine's grand-kid! Bob mia ortlieb wrote: Great writing from Jewel on Joni...but, how old is Jewel? I was about six or seven when Blue came out, and I know I am waaayyy older than Jewel. She speaks about history as if she were there: "When she first did it, it was a very fluffy time -- pretty girls singing about pretty things." Maybe her mom helped her write this, lol! Mia Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:07:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Jewel was born in May of 1974, so she would be 30, > almost 31. Why she could practically be Catherine's > grand-kid! > Well, yeah, maybe. If I was as much of a slut as you are!!! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:14:05 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Free Fiona Apple njc I will second the motion that Extraordinary Machine is an incredible album. I've been playing it alot-haven't listened to a record so much since Pawn came out. The music is not as hooky or accessible as her previous work, but no less artistic. The music is complex, more like Mingus mixed with confessional rock than anything on the radio. There are no cookie cutter hits. (Does any of this sound like someone else we know?). Sony are imbeciles to salt it away for two years. The web nexus for all things Fiona is http://www.okerupt.org/forum/index.php Anyone interested in finding the mp3s can contact me offlist. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:43:49 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" I had no idea that it was expected of us to make fun of Catherine in this way, but I won't do it because I'm nearly as old as she is myself! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:08 PM To: Bob Muller; mia ortlieb Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Jewel was born in May of 1974, so she would be 30, > almost 31. Why she could practically be Catherine's > grand-kid! > Well, yeah, maybe. If I was as much of a slut as you are!!! Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Was: Remember the ... ? Now: Dead or Alive -- NJC - --- Mark wrote: << In spite of everything else some famous people accomplish, it seems that certain aspects of their lives stick in the public's perception and just don't go away. >> Like with that folksinger, Joni Mitchell. - --Smurf, forever remembered for that night down south between the trailers __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > I had no idea that it was expected of us to make fun > of Catherine in this > way, but I won't do it because I'm nearly as old as > she is myself! > Rejoice in the fact that you're still younger than Smurf. So, for that matter, is practically everyone else, except for me and one or two other elder statespeople. Some of us age gracefully. Others simply age. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:37:02 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni dreams and Meeses to Pieces Hi, Patti and gang -- Patti said: <<...And to add a teeny Joni content, I was so wrapped up in the double euphoria here last year that I dreamt that Joni came to our campus, and I was torn between going to the parade and watching her perform. She was standing on on a noisy corner waiting for the walking green by our Jorgensen Center for the Performing Arts and I ended up taking her impossibly gentle hands and blood-red fingernails and bringing her to the parade. All the fans were screaming for the Huskies, and I was yelling: "But look, everybody! LOOK! It's JONI MITCHELL!!!! (I know, I know, I'm a Joni nutcase! But you take me as I am, right?)>> *You're* a Joni nutcase? As I alluded recently, I think we're all bozos on this bus/website! If I've seemed a little manic lately (no, Walt, really?) it's because I am, as of this week, off ALL painkillers, sedatives and most recently, all antidepressants (which were prescribed for sleep or pain, not for depression, which I rarely if ever suffer). My mistake was impatience -- I decided to go cold turkey on the last two (trazodone and nortryptaline, if anyone cares) at the same time. And to paraphrase Lloyd Bridges in the first "Airplane!" movie, I sure picked the wrong week to give up nortryptaline and trazodone! "Insomnia, mania and amnesia" has a wonderful alliterative ring to it, could even be a line in a Joni song if she does a follow-up to Cold Blue Steel but with antidepressants instead of heroin, but you don't want to go through what I've been going through; at least, like (alas!) the 2003 fest, I won't remember any of it. Too make matters worse and my misery complete, I got a nasty persistent sinus infection and started getting high fevers the same day I quit the damed drugs (and you will soon see the results of that day, in a separate posting). But this, too, shall pass! I don't get the appeal of "real" antidepressants, like say prozac, which I tried once (doctor's suggestion, not my idea: "I'm not *depressed* -- my life sucks and I'm reacting *normally* for a change!") just in time for my best friend Stephan's birthday two years ago. I'd taken my first capsule that morning, and almost immediately, my penchant for smelling phantom odors was exacerbated. That morning, it was Eau de Dead Mouse. It was so strong, I was sure that a mouse really had died in one of our walls, but suspicously enough, the smell was everywhere and nowhere. And Robert couldn't smell anything, which clinched it. Stephan, who is Quebecois, and best gal pal Lisa and I went to Absinthe, a very nice bistro two blocks from my apartment; alas, my predicament persisted, so I didn't eat much. When my friends asked why, I told them. Then I started laughing (remember, people, the prozac wasn't my idea). They asked what it was, and I asked them if they'd ever seen The Cheap Detective, the Maltese Falcon parody with Peter Falk. They had. I asked if they remembered Ann-Margaret's version of La Vie En Rose: La. La la la la la la. La la la la la la. La la La Vie En Rose. Which is perfect, as most anglophones know only these words! Anyway, what had entered my mind was a slight variation: La. La la la la la la. La la la la la la. La la La Sourie Morte [the dead mouse (f)]. Stephan, who had dressed completely and gorgeously in black and white as a Magritte subject, complete with bowler hat but without the apple in his face (so we had already drawn some attention), picked up on this, and started coming up with lyrics on the spot. I can't remember any of them now, but I started giggling hysterically at the table, as did Lisa, who doesn't speak much French but like most people is subject to Giggle Contagion. We all laughed so hard i was sincerely afriad the waiter was going to have to ask us to leave. Anyway, I christened this problem Dead Mouse Syndrome (DMS, French: Syndrome de Souris Mort or SSM); fortunately, its occurrence has diminished, become rare, for me, but when oh when will the medical community recognise this problem so that the drug companies can make a killing on yet another problem that doesn't exist? I mean, I've already done half their marketing job for them by inventing a name and triradical abbreviation for the nonexistent ailment! Music up: Man wakes up and bolts upright, cupping his mouth in nauseated misery. Wife: What's wrong honey? Man: (Can't answer) Wife: It's that awful DMS again, isn't it? Man nods miserably. Wife: Stay put -- I'll go get the Mouseaxecoxib! [later] Man is cooking breakfast, wife comes in from outside. Wife: Well, *someone* must be feeling better! Man: Yup, that Mouseaxecoxib really did the trick! Wife: What are you cooking? Man: Anchovie and limburger omelettes -- want one? Music rises... Announcer: Ask *your* doctor about Mouseaxecoxib, and smash those meese to pieces! [Extremely rapidly] Should not be taken by nursing mothers, people with perdsonality disorders, or anyone with internal organs. Side effects may include rapid breathing, a burning sensation you-know-where, death, and a desire to cook smelly egg dishes... Anyhoo... Another side effect of going off the Rx has been vivid dreams, and I had a doozy the other night. [Background info -- I went to, and worked at, Brown University throughout most of the '70's and '80's, so many of my dreams take place there; also, while the Kennedys have always been Hahvuhd people, JFK Jr. did actually attend Brown in the early '80's. First time I saw him, maybe spring of '81, he definitely turned my head -- gorgeous, if a tad too young for me. A [straight] friend I was with chuckled and asked, "Do you know who that is?" "No, why, did you go to high school with him or something?" "Um, it's John-John [JFK's nickname]" "Yikes. I would never have guessed -- lucky him, he mostly got his mom's looks! I don't suppose..." "Well, there are rumors, since he's done some acting here, but I think it's mostly wishful thinking." "Yeah, well, he's way out of my league anyway..."] In the dream, in an alternate reality, JFK Sr. had not been assasinated, and I had somehow met and befriended their third child, a young woman, Sarah, who also attended Brown, and in fact I saved her life after a disastrous explosion in one of the buildings on campus. I became a welcome member of the Kennedy family and I turned Sarah onto Joni, whom she arranged to have me meet! Heaven!! Joni and I became friends, and as the years went by, she appeared at several benefit thingies that I was involved in; just before I woke up (nooooooooo!), flash to the future, I'm about 60 and Joni's 70-something, there's a orchestral concert honoring her, and I'm introducing the conductor as Joni beams... Most people dream in short stories -- I dream in miniseries. Best to all, Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: (njc) It's a natural fit! Little Big Walt wrote: << Doesn't every Irish lesbian prelate do that sooner or later? >> Speaking of what everyone does sooner or later, what's with formerly ballsy women apologizing for everything lately? First it was Sinead for Pope JP II, and now Jane Fonda for posing with Viet Cong soldiers decades ago. I certainly understood both their points of view and their anger: Sinead for the church's stranglehold on women (especially in Ireland) and Jane for wanting to do whatever radical thing she thought would stop a stupid, stupid war. I respected both of them more before they -- as the Bushies would say -- flip-flopped. - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: RE: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" - --- Richard wrote: > I had no idea that it was expected of us to make fun > of Catherine in this > way, but I won't do it because I'm nearly as old as > she is myself! > It's not "expected," Richard, although it is encouraged. Especially by me. And I am a mere six weeks younger than my favorite JMDL, ahem, "crone-y!" But don't worry. Since Catherine comes from Canada, where it is cold, she has 'kept' better, like Rhoda Morganstern hoped to do in Minneapolis. And even though Catherine and I are so close in age, when people see us together they often asume that I am her much older cryptkeeper. - --Smurf __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:04:12 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: (njc) It's a natural fit! <> I agree entirely, but I fear they both [Jane fonda and Sinead O'Connor] may well have done their mei culpe at least as much to rescue or repair the damage done to their public images than from any heartfelt remorse, but this is utter speculation on my part -- only they can know, and I generally prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially in the current climate of schadenfreude; they must certainly have regrets for having done something that tarnished their images. I noticed, though, that Jane's apology was fairly limited to just some aspects of her trip o'er there, mostly her "wording"... Patience, tolerance and resilience, my bunnies -- it'll take us far! Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > > Little Big Walt wrote: > > << Doesn't every Irish lesbian prelate do that sooner > or later? >> > > Speaking of what everyone does sooner or later, what's > with formerly ballsy women apologizing for everything > lately? First it was Sinead for Pope JP II, and now > Jane Fonda for posing with Viet Cong soldiers decades > ago. I certainly understood both their points of view > and their anger: Sinead for the church's stranglehold > on women (especially in Ireland) and Jane for wanting > to do whatever radical thing she thought would stop a > stupid, stupid war. I respected both of them more > before they -- as the Bushies would say -- > flip-flopped. > > --Smurf > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:04:39 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC re:Rolling Stone "The Immortals" In a message dated 4/9/2005 2:48:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rflynn@frontiernet.net writes: > I had no idea that it was expected of us to make fun of Catherine in this > way, but I won't do it because I'm nearly as old as she is myself! > Dear Catherine's not that old at all. Just never get in the car with her.......you'd swear she's 110 :) Love Pope Paul IV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:42:49 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Patti Griffin, and the Very Narrow Acoustic Band (njc) - -<> Heavens, Mags! I missed the offer (probably didn't hear it -- see below) -- I'm probably too late, but I'll take you up on it if I'm not. Sorry to hear about your hearing problems -- you, me and Smurf now -- I used to have supernormal hearing, and now, as part of my special, limited-time-only brain damage package, a group of tiny cicadas throw intermittent block parties in my right ear. The hearing loss is specific to a very narrow acoustic band (which sounds like a Christian folk group: And now, ladies and gentlemen, sinners all, it's the Very Narrow Acoustic Band!!!!!) -- and I can still hear normally above and below those frequencies -- but I'm a lot happier when it's merely a hearing loss and those damned bugs are quiet. Love, Walt, weird as always - - Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:31:25 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Laura Nyro (njc) Yesterday, was the 8th Anniversary of Laura's passing. Today, BBC Radio aired a show hosted by Bette Midler, Michele Kort, Suzanne Vega, Janis Ian, etc. Thought some of you might enjoy this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/lauranyro.shtml It's available for the next seven days, I believe. Best regards, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:51:07 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Praire list from Rhino Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here's the SOAPG line-up as officially shown on rhino.com. T'log version of Louise, short version of Cold and of course everyone's favorite, Ray's Dad's Cadillac. Joni's "sound" has often been eclectic, even within the confines of particular albums, but this collection seems particularly so to me. URGE FOR GOING THE TEA LEAF PROPHECY (LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS) CHEROKEE LOUISE (Orchestral Version, 2002) RAY'S DAD'S CADILLAC LET THE WIND CARRY ME DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER RAISED ON ROBBERY PAPRIKA PLAINS (Remix) SONG FOR SHARON RIVER CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY HARLEM IN HAVANA COME IN FROM THE COLD (Edit) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:32:55 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Praire list from Rhino Thanks for that Bryan I wonder who's doing the remix of Paprika Plains? Do you think it's going to be Missy Elliot? I can imagine it to an r'n'b swing. Maybe Moby will do a remix or Massive Attack. Or The Blockheads, or the Propellerheads We can only wait... For anyone still awake, it's 632am in London. I ahve insomnia and I am kidding about the above Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here's > the SOAPG line-up as > officially shown on rhino.com. T'log version of > Louise, short version of Cold and > of course everyone's favorite, Ray's Dad's Cadillac. > Joni's "sound" has often > been eclectic, even within the confines of > particular albums, but this > collection seems particularly so to me. > > URGE FOR GOING > THE TEA LEAF PROPHECY (LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS) > CHEROKEE LOUISE (Orchestral Version, 2002) > RAY'S DAD'S CADILLAC > LET THE WIND CARRY ME > DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER > RAISED ON ROBBERY > PAPRIKA PLAINS (Remix) > SONG FOR SHARON > RIVER > CHINESE CAFE/UNCHAINED MELODY > HARLEM IN HAVANA > COME IN FROM THE COLD (Edit) > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #155 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)