From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #146 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, April 1 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 146 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- What to give a woman who has everything? ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo, if you're tired of this then DELETE NJC [Em <] Re: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo, if you're [hell ] Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo,if you're tired of this then DELETE NJC [Randy Remote ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:04:43 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: What to give a woman who has everything? This is a great idea. Sincerely, Jim John Calimee asked, >What do you give a woman who has everything? Why, paint of course.> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:27:28 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo, if you're tired of this then DELETE NJC well, here's this, from my little hunk of space in the valley: i heard yesterday about a woman who had recently come to the hospice with the throngs of protesters, and who had set herself apart from them, over on the side yard or thereabouts, away from the cameras and away from the spittle flying as everyone was gnashing their teeth, and i heard she had two signs - one that said "michael schiavo believes that he is right" and one that says "the schlindlers believe that they are right," and she's reading, out loud, parts of the bible that talk about love. that's the only sane viewpoint i've heard via the media regarding this whole circus. i'd love to buy that woman a cup of coffee and see what else she has to say. i mean, isn't it really all supposed to be about love? cindy __________________________________________________ <> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:28:50 -0500 From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: hunting & fishing Like it or not, a judgment is made either in favor of the "personal choice" of the person who would choose to shoot a free-living animal, or in favor of the animal, who would rather not be on the receiving end of a bullet, leghold trap, snare, hook, club or other such device. Bill "The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men." Alice Walker "As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields." Tolstoy "Dolphins, eskimos, who cares? It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap." Cartman, South Park On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Kate Bennett wrote: > The older I get the less I judge others for their personal choices. I > could > never kill an animal, bird or fish. I tried fishing once & when I > caught > it, looked into its beautiful eyes & saw it gasping for breath & put > it back > into the sea. There is no joy in any of those activities for me. I > think it > is wonderful that some have had the experience of getting their own > game > growing up, not as 'sport' but as honest to goodness food gathering for > consumption. I am a hypocrite. I wear cow shoes & coats. My fur is > faux > however. I eat chicken, fish & sometimes cow. No baby animals though > unless you consider unfertilized eggs to be so. I'd rather be drinking > carrot juice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:37:29 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo, if you're tired of this then DELETE NJC - --- Cynthia Vickery wrote: > i mean, isn't it really all supposed to be about love? Cindy, yes yes yes. But out of love, and the accompanying passion, so much self righteousness and and so many bared fangs. Must be nice to be able to afford fang-bared passion when its backed up by blind true belief. Must feel good. The woman you referred to, bless her for her balance and reason, AND for her courage, swimming among the bloody toothed sharks who have God on their side. sheesh....I need a Valium. And I don't even DO that stuff, lol. Em "its hard to know the truth, so we live with points of view". ....Mary Gauthier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: hell Subject: Re: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo, if you're Cindy wrote: > that's the only sane viewpoint i've heard via the media regarding > this whole circus. i'd love to buy that woman a cup of coffee > and see what else she has to say. > > i mean, isn't it really all supposed to be about love? You're right, and that seems to have been lost along the way. From the NZ Herald this morning: "Schiavo Scam: The parents of Terry Schiavo have authorised a direct marketing firm to sell the database of those who've made a donation towards their legal bill, says the New York Times." It would seem Terry's parents aren't averse to making a little profit from their misfortune (or at least recoup their expenses) by less than honourable means. I hope this isn't true. Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:40:26 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: NJC right wingers, right to life/Schiavo, "this scared hard-edged rat race" Borderline by Joni Mitchell Everybody looks so ill at ease So distrustful so displeased Running down the table I see a borderline Like a barbed wire fence Strung tight strung tense Prickling with pretense A borderline Why are you smirking at your friend? Is this to be the night when All well-wishing ends? All credibility revoked? Thin skin thick jokes! Can we blame it on the smoke, This borderline? Every bristling shaft of pride Church or nation Team or tribe Every notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline Good or bad we think we know As if thinking makes things so! All convictions grow along a borderline Smug in your jaded expertise You scathe the wonder world And you praise barbarity In this illusionary place This scared hard-edged rat race All liberty is laced with Borderlines Every income every age Every fashion-plated rage Every measure every gauge Creates a borderline Every stone thrown through glass Every mean-streets-kick ass Every swan caught on the grass Will draw a borderline You snipe so steady You snub so snide So ripe and ready To diminish and deride! You're so quick to condescend My opinionated friend All you deface all you defend Is just a borderline Just a borderline Another borderline Just a borderline Copyright ) 1994; Crazy Crow Music __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:44:06 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Joni on United Air Gang, Long time, no post...Have just escaped from a brutal Maine winter. Basking in the CA sun in the Bay Area for a few days, then off to San Diego to begin life again..Chapter #35,279. I flew United out here and on the Chicago to SF leg..I was watching 'The Incredibles' and enjoying the flight as much as I could..the movie ended and some news shows and stuff made for United flyers came on....The Big One was a twenty minute show/interview with Our Queen re: the Starbuck's CD's...She's sitting in what looks to be her back yard..with a Jack Russell Terrier on her lap, chain smoking, and looking very much like NO WORK WAS DONE ON HER FACE! She talked about Duke Ellington and how much she's into him right now...She talked about being in Toronto editing a film...Waxed wonderfully on Billie Holliday, Edith Piaf...she first heard her at a friend's birthday party on the wrong side of the tracks... Has anyone else seen or heard of this? I'm trying to remember as much of it as possilbe.. It was quite good and Joni seemed to be very pleased to have the opportunity to talk about the songs she seleceted and why. Love, Russ From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) Reply-To: joni@smoe.org To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #94 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:00:09 -0500 (EST) onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 31 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 094 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Joni on Miles DVD [DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [Bill Dollinger ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [vince ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [Lori Fye ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: Joni on Miles DVD [Randy Remote ] Songs of a Prarie Girl ["J.David Sapp" ] [none] [LittleBreen@comcast.net] Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat [LCStanley7@aol.com] LOLOLOL ["David Henderson" ] [none] ["David Henderson" ] Tracks magazine ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #143 [HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com] "Pink Dress Concert" [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: "Pink Dress Concert" [Bob Muller ] Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat [Lucy Hone ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:16:54 +0200 From: DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi Subject: Joni on Miles DVD Hi everybody, I don't know if someone has already posted this message concerning Joni's interviews on Miles Davis DVD 'Miles Electric - A different kind of blue'. Beautiful ! Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:32:51 - -0500 From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! I can't think of a more offensive idea. Of course, I work for Friends of Animals and I support the right to arm bears. Joni has supported our work in the past, and even did a poster for our campaign to stop the killing of wolves in Alaska. Bill Dollinger On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:42 PM, vince wrote: > I think we need to plan a rural, southern, or western JoniFest, > > BYOG 2006 JoniFest > > (Bring your own game) > > the sharing of hunting tips, group sessions on gutting and skinning > skills, and the cook outs should feed everyone! > > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. > > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! > > Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:27:33 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! Bill Dollinger wrote: > I can't think of a more offensive idea. I can't think that I did such a bad job of expressing it was a total joke. Relax. And I have been a member of PETA since the early 70s my own self. I have used the line "right to arm bears" myself as a joke line, but it really does fail as public policy. And despite my failure to be clear it was humor, try rereading what I posted again - the age of irony may be dead, but please, how could the weak and feeble and insufficient attempt at humor not at least hint itself? Vince > > > Of course, I work for Friends of Animals > and I support the right to arm bears. > > Joni has supported our work in the > past, and even did a poster for our > campaign to stop the killing of wolves > in Alaska. > > Bill Dollinger > > > On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:42 PM, vince wrote: > >> I think we need to plan a rural, southern, or western JoniFest, >> >> BYOG 2006 JoniFest >> >> (Bring your own game) >> >> the sharing of hunting tips, group sessions on gutting and skinning >> skills, and the cook outs should feed everyone! >> >> The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer >> strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. >> >> I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! >> >> Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:37:07 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. That's actually pretty funny, Vince! As much as I loathe hunting, I can appreciate a good sick joke! > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! Absolutely. I still have one camouflage uniform left from my old Air Force days. It hangs on the wall in my office, as a reminder of who I was, once. I have combat boots, too (although they are actually Mary's, from HER old days in the AF). Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:50:01 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! Joni Only people - I owe you an explanation perhaps - in the NJC world we have been discussing hunting at length so my first post here was coming from that thread, trying to make humor, but if you are Joni only you didn't read that read and thus my Joni Fest hunting proposal probably seemed stupid, out of the blue, incongrous, inapropriate, dumb, insensitve, idiotic, and whatever else. Sorry (including sorry that I am all of these things)! It should have been NJC because that is the only way it made sense. Again, my apologies. Vince - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message - -------------- > > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. > > That's actually pretty funny, Vince! As much as I loathe hunting, I > can appreciate a good sick joke! > > > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! > > Absolutely. I still have one camouflage uniform left from my old Air > Force days. It hangs on the wall in my office, as a reminder of who I > was, once. I have combat boots, too (although they are actually > Mary's, from HER old days in the AF). > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:27:27 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni on Miles DVD No, it hasn't been discussed that I recall. Details, please! DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi wrote: > Hi everybody, I don't know if someone has already posted this message > concerning Joni's interviews on Miles Davis DVD 'Miles Electric - A > different kind of blue'. Beautiful ! > Fabio - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:26:24 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Songs of a Prarie Girl Songs of a Prarie Girl has been reduced to $14.99 at Amazon. peace, david No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 3/30/05 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:20:36 +0000 From: LittleBreen@comcast.net Subject: [none] Mia said: <> Yeah, I keep hoping to read that someone who signed up for that pushed the wrong button and was found bloodied in front of their PC or MAC with no sign of breaking or entering. Soon to be an episode of Law & Order: Stoopid Crimes Division. Happy thoughts, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:55:33 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat Lucy wrote: .... I would not approach her if I saw her, I would let her be Hi Lucy, If I saw Joni, I would hope it wasn't in a crowd so I could approach her. I have thought of (with two other JMDLers) going out west to that grill she likes in California and waiting for the chance to meet her. I wonder if the food is any good and if they serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner and are reasonably priced? What a thought... to meet her. I'm so initially shy around people, but maybe I wouldn't be shy around her. I don't feel like she is a stranger to me although I am to her. Nice thought. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:26:50 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: LOLOLOL A quick THANKS to Vince and Lori for making me laugh out loud today! the sharing of hunting tips, group sessions on gutting and skinning > skills, and the cook outs should feed everyone! > > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. > > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! > > Vince >> if dogmas run free, then why can't we? > ROFLLLLLLL See, it always comes back to Joni, who wrote: Let all these dogmas go running free The wild and the gentle dogmas Kenneled in me ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:36:16 -0500 From: "David Henderson" Subject: [none] JIMMY SAID: NP : Eminem, and loving it.......and I never thought that would be something I'd say. I never thought I would say it either until someone sort of pushed the last CD on me, and wow, what a super talented musician. He makes me laugh out loud sometimes. He also pushes my buttons occasionally, but I love that he's out there pushing buttons instead of just singing about sex and booze like most of his competitors. The new CD is fantastic, love the new single about his daughter. David NP 1 Thing, Amerie - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:36:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Tracks magazine Under Reissues That Matter: #1: Joni Mitchell Artist's Choice Maybe she does know what she's doing................ Jerry np: Moby - Raining Again ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:10:35 EST From: HOOPSJOHN1@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #143 good to see joni lives on... i miss her ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:27:10 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: "Pink Dress Concert" Does anyone know any of the details surrounding Joni's so called, "Pink dress concert"? Judging from the songs, I place it around 1970. Was it from the BBC? Mark in Sydney. NP Joni Mitchell - Carey "Pink Dress Concert" (Very odd version with extra lyrics). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "Pink Dress Concert" You're spot on with your 1970 guess, Mark...The program was taped in September of that year and broadcast Oct. 9, 1970. From Simon's incredible "Appearances" database: "In Concert BBC Television Theatre; London, England The program was titled Joni Mitchell Sings Joni Mitchell. Joni was featured on guitar, piano and dulcimer in the premier show of the In Concert series. Broadcast on Oct. 9. " Bob NP: Modest Mouse, "Blame It On The Tetons" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:42:33 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat Hello Laura , and thanks for reading my post. My view on going to the grill is.......... I think you would find that if she showed up, almost every other person in the grill probably was there for the same reason. The food might be wonderful, the atmosphere brilliant and there may be tired waitresses and grumpy chefs and it might be a bit like living in an Edward Hopper painting.... and it might be tacky and it might be lovely... Whilst it would be an honour for any of us who really get her music (or even some of it) to meet her and get the chance to chat I doubt it would be an honour for her. What do we have in common? what is it about our lives that we think would be so rivetting for her to know? Do we assume that because she has touched our lives she needs to know about it? Over the years just how many other people will have done this? .........gone up to her in a peaceful moment to unload their Joni story? Imagine what that must feel like? There you are....in the local diner...........you are there having a quiet cup of coffee. You have spent the morning busy being about your life and its the way you like it.. not driven by the passions of the past, nor encumbered by contractural obligations. Even the worst moments of your young life are no longer a burden. You have achieved a comfortable balance of notoriety and anonymity. You can go about your life fairly comfortably and go for a cup of coffee in your local diner. It is maybe a sunny morning with slants of sunlight and slabs of fat on the thighs of the waitress and there are far too many pancakes on your plate......... you feel comfortable and in a wonderfully observational frame of mind. The sun is cut from your view by a person who clears their throat and its a sinking feeling that makes you grab your cup of coffed and stiffen your shoulders as you know you are about to hear......."Excuse me Miss Mitchell, or may I call you Joni... I feel I know you so well, you see............ your music has meant so much to me over the years ......... and you can barely manage a smile make your escape. I have had some fairly inside access to some pretty famous musicians via my last marriage and (by all reports) they "put up" with fans who come to gigs, and the ones who demand an autograph or a photo.... that is fair game. They have paid money for a show and getting to "be with" is a fair exchange (if they are quick and dont think you are a friend, or share any sort of bond because they have their photo taken). What was hated and feared was the "OH MY GOD!, YOU?, HERE?" sort of "chance encounter" which had been planned, and smacked of stalking. Cornering an object of such reverence in a place in which they thought they might be safe is, to me, just not on. WE all know how we feel when we get the telephone canvas as we are about to eat, the "have you read our version of the world" callers to our door.Those are random invasions and can be politely refused. To go to where you expect someone to be, in order to see them and maybe approach them, would make the person feel cornered and probably threatened. It is also really difficult for celebs to be rude (as we might be) in case its a press set up so that bad publicity results... So they are doomed to having to put up with us. I will not be part, ever of anyone's discomfort. I would never ever approach her... If her car broke down out side my house and she came to ask for help I might let on I knew her but only as she was driving away........ But then that is me... Lucy LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Lucy wrote: > > .... I would not approach her if I saw her, I would let her be > > > Hi Lucy, > > If I saw Joni, I would hope it wasn't in a crowd so I could > approach her. I have thought of (with two other JMDLers) going out > west to that grill she likes in California and waiting for the chance > to meet her. I wonder if the food is any good and if they serve > breakfast, lunch, and dinner and are reasonably priced? > > What a thought... to meet her. I'm so initially shy around > people, but maybe I wouldn't be shy around her. I don't feel like she > is a stranger to me although I am to her. Nice thought. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #94 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:15:07 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo Em wrote: FU_______KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!! I'm really hollering into my own personal void trying to look for true belief, but its not forthcoming. Hi Em, Got your hollering and your point. I really C where you are coming from. Can't have it both ways... the current war and feeding tubes... and make any sense. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:46:24 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: NJC right wingers and right to life/Schiavo,if you're tired of this then DELETE NJC Well, the whole thing has been a win-win for the Republicans. If she had been allowed to live, they would have been the heroes. Now that she's dead, it's those evil liberals who killed her. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:44:22 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Mc Subject: Question (obtuse Joni content) Does anyone know of a site comparable to this one and Rust (Neil Young) for Beatle/George Harrison fans to chat and discuss their music? In a lot of ways, I see similarities in the way Joni was able to adapt to different styles of music and instrumentation--just like GH got into sitar and Indian music but also developed his own subtle form of slide guitar while still being able to rock out. Not that they are the same, but one could make a killer mix tape with just their tunes that most people don't really know that well. DJRD Forever, Matt Mc Rainy Day Mushroom Pillow in Mississippi ================================================== "And I'll stand before you, and I'll bring a smile to your eyes." Neil Young "Motion Pictures" ================================================== __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #146 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)