From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #143 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 30 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 143 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni on Miles DVD [DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [Bill Dollinger ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) [Smurf ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [vince ] RE: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC + Firesign ["] Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) [Lori Fye ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [Lori Fye ] Re: Red Lake. . .now hunting njc [Lori Fye ] RE: Rhythm & Torch Updates NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: condoms and AIDS, njc [Lori Fye ] Re: hey JoniFest fans! [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc [Lori Fye ] RE: condoms and AIDS, njc ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) ["McMillan Brad" ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] (NJC) Free Living Will Forms [Lori Fye ] Re: condoms and AIDS, njc ["Steven Polifka" ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) ["McMillan Brad" ] (NJC) Artists of the '60s [Lori Fye ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) ["McMillan Brad" ] RE: Rhythm & Torch NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Joni on Miles DVD [Randy Remote ] Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Alison Krauss + Union Station Live at the library NJC [mags h ] Re: Happy Birthday, Paz! NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:16:54 +0200 From: DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi Subject: Joni on Miles DVD Hi everybody, I don't know if someone has already posted this message concerning Joni's interviews on Miles Davis DVD 'Miles Electric - A different kind of blue'. Beautiful ! Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:32:51 -0500 From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! I can't think of a more offensive idea. Of course, I work for Friends of Animals and I support the right to arm bears. Joni has supported our work in the past, and even did a poster for our campaign to stop the killing of wolves in Alaska. Bill Dollinger On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:42 PM, vince wrote: > I think we need to plan a rural, southern, or western JoniFest, > > BYOG 2006 JoniFest > > (Bring your own game) > > the sharing of hunting tips, group sessions on gutting and skinning > skills, and the cook outs should feed everyone! > > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. > > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! > > Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:12:37 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) - --- mia wrote: > a guy in the comforts of > his own home can go > online, pay with a credit card, then point and shoot > with the click of a > button over the Internet. > > What's up with that? (sigh) > Ugh! Sexist too, if they only allow men! - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:27:33 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! Bill Dollinger wrote: > I can't think of a more offensive idea. I can't think that I did such a bad job of expressing it was a total joke. Relax. And I have been a member of PETA since the early 70s my own self. I have used the line "right to arm bears" myself as a joke line, but it really does fail as public policy. And despite my failure to be clear it was humor, try rereading what I posted again - the age of irony may be dead, but please, how could the weak and feeble and insufficient attempt at humor not at least hint itself? Vince > > > Of course, I work for Friends of Animals > and I support the right to arm bears. > > Joni has supported our work in the > past, and even did a poster for our > campaign to stop the killing of wolves > in Alaska. > > Bill Dollinger > > > On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:42 PM, vince wrote: > >> I think we need to plan a rural, southern, or western JoniFest, >> >> BYOG 2006 JoniFest >> >> (Bring your own game) >> >> the sharing of hunting tips, group sessions on gutting and skinning >> skills, and the cook outs should feed everyone! >> >> The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer >> strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. >> >> I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! >> >> Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:18:31 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time NJC + Firesign Here's a myth of origin. When the flood receded, the Oaxaca Valley was a quagmire. A handful of mud took on life and started walking. The tortoise walked very, very slowly. He moved with his head stretched out and his eyes very open, discovering the world that the sun was bringing back to life. In a place that stank, the tortoise saw a vulture devouring corpses. "Take me to heaven," he said. "I want to meet God." The vultures made him keep asking. The corpses were tasty. The tortoise stuck out his head in entreaty, then pulled it back under his shell, unable to stand the stench. "You who have wings, take me," he begged. Bored by his persistence, the vulture opened his huge black wings and flew off with the tortoise on his back. They flew through clouds and the tortoise, his head tucked in, complained, "How disgusting you smell!" The vulture pretended not to hear. "What a stink of putrefaction!" the tortoise repeated. He kept it up until the hideous bird lost patience, leaned over brusquely and threw him down to earth. God came down from heaven and put the bits together. The shell shows were the mends were. (Quoted by) Eduardo Galeano - Genesis mike in bcn np radio baghdad patti smith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:27:30 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc If the Pope is alone in the woods, and he hums Joni songs to himself, does it make a sound? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smurf" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc > My GOD!!! > > I just read that the pope may have to have a feeding > tube! > > If these two threads collide, we may never talk about > anything else! > > --Smurf, wondering if the pope hunts in the woods > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:28:04 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: smoking guns NJC Hi Mags, I saw a small portion of this film on the news but they either did not show it all or I turned away and missed the last part. What a chilling foretelling of what he was going to do. I found it out that one of the victims was a hooded klansman. He considered himself a "native nazi" who believed in the racial purity of his tribe. This whole situation is so tragic because there was no hope. Without hope, there is no future. I wish that this boy could have been reached before the hopelessness, the hurt and the anger took its toll. From the moment he lost his father to suicide and his mother became incapacitated indirectly through alcholism (two of the main problems on his reservation) hope started dwindling away. The Indian nation is a forgotten nation. I would like to see more businesses brought in to help fuel their local economy especially those that would enable people to earn a decent living. I would like to see more counseling centers spring up on the reservations to concentrate on alcoholism and depression. This situation will never change as long as hope is so scarce. Without hope there is no future. I am as much Indian as I am African American because both my mother and father had much Indian blood running through their veins. Even though I would be considered a half breed to someone like this boy, my heart still aches for the plights of both races. However, from my days in the Northern Panhandle of West Virginia and Southern Ohio, I know that one race of people does not have the monopoly on hopelessness. White people in this area where just as devoid of hope as anyone else because of the economic situation there. Companies that brought jobs into the area purposely kept the wages low but still lines whipped around buildings because of the desperation for jobs. It's almost as if the foot was being kept on the neck to keep people from rising up economically. I would like to see businesses come to the reservations that would raise the hope and dignity of the people there; an honest day's wage for an honest day's work and hope for a brighter future. Love Sherelle Mags wrote: oh, you know, it is a good thing I am on digest, as it often deters me from posting something back, especially from an emotional place, but what the hay. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0323051weise1.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:33:12 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) David wrote: > Where is the fairness in killing an unarmed cow in a meat processing plant? > I grew up hunting and fishing as did most people in Louisiana. Are you > saying it's better to eat the fish you buy in the store that someone else > killed than it is to catch and eat your own fish? I don't see the logic in > that. I have never known hunters who shoot animals at random and leave them > lying in the fields. Hunters consume or sell or give away the meat. For > most people, hunting and fishing harkens back to a simpler time when we > lived hand-to-land. It gives you the same feeling of accomplishment that > growing your own vegetables gives you (even though all gardeners know it > would be easier to just go to the grocery store and buy their vegetables). > We are hunters and gatherers by nature, and it can feel really wonderful to > many to take your meat and fish and vegetables straight from God and > distribute them to your friends and family without commerce. David, you've made some good points, as did Vince when he explained that hunting, for rural folks, can supplement a family's food sources. How about we level the playing field a bit, though, by nixing guns in favor of archery equipment? That would seem to be a lot more fair, not to mention challenging. If you want to recognize our hunting/gathering instincts, then lets return to how all of that started, before guns were even invented. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:37:07 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. That's actually pretty funny, Vince! As much as I loathe hunting, I can appreciate a good sick joke! > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! Absolutely. I still have one camouflage uniform left from my old Air Force days. It hangs on the wall in my office, as a reminder of who I was, once. I have combat boots, too (although they are actually Mary's, from HER old days in the AF). Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:42:43 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Red Lake. . .now hunting njc Marianne admitted: > I still buy leather shoes. . . (not proud of that) I do too, and I'm not proud of it, either. However, for the most part I have forsaken leather gear for motorcycling. Instead I buy jackets and pants, and even boots, made of synthetic materials. Which isn't much better when you consider that most synthetics are petroleum based ... I guess we just can't do the right thing, really, and still live our lives of leisure. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:45:02 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Rhythm & Torch Updates NJC Hi Steve! Hip, Hip Hooray for your news!!!!! Outstanding!!!! This is starting to really take shape and I am so excited for you! Please keep going strong! Love, Sherelle Steve wrote: Hi all, Just a little news to brighten your day! ;-) Our last gig at M's on February 19th was a smashing success! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:48:05 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc Brad asks: << If the Pope is alone in the woods, and he hums Joni songs to himself, does it make a sound? >> And more important, does that sound end up on one of Muller's covers discs? - --Smurf, who'd love to hear JP II do "Dancing Clown" for Muller Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:49:49 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: condoms and AIDS, njc >> if dogmas run free, then why can't we? > ROFLLLLLLL See, it always comes back to Joni, who wrote: Let all these dogmas go running free The wild and the gentle dogmas Kenneled in me ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:50:01 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: hey JoniFest fans! Joni Only people - I owe you an explanation perhaps - in the NJC world we have been discussing hunting at length so my first post here was coming from that thread, trying to make humor, but if you are Joni only you didn't read that read and thus my Joni Fest hunting proposal probably seemed stupid, out of the blue, incongrous, inapropriate, dumb, insensitve, idiotic, and whatever else. Sorry (including sorry that I am all of these things)! It should have been NJC because that is the only way it made sense. Again, my apologies. Vince - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message -------------- > > The logo almost suggests itself: Roy's Dad Cadillac with a dead deer > > strapped on the fender and a possum under the tire. > > That's actually pretty funny, Vince! As much as I loathe hunting, I > can appreciate a good sick joke! > > > I am sure SugarCamouflagePants will make an appearance! > > Absolutely. I still have one camouflage uniform left from my old Air > Force days. It hangs on the wall in my office, as a reminder of who I > was, once. I have combat boots, too (although they are actually > Mary's, from HER old days in the AF). > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:51:37 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc > My GOD!!! > > I just read that the pope may have to have a feeding > tube! > > If these two threads collide, we may never talk about > anything else! I thought something similar this morning when Mary informed me about the Pope's feeding tube. How ironic ... or is it just typically Joni-synchronous? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:57:49 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: condoms and AIDS, njc Or possibly Dogma eat Dogma The Faithful Beg Agenda is the road to Heaven And the Zealot walks it on Crooked Legs ..with apologies Les (London) - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Fye [mailto:lrfye58@gmail.com] Sent: 30 March 2005 16:50 To: LCStanley7@aol.com Cc: emzdogz@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: condoms and AIDS, njc >> if dogmas run free, then why can't we? > ROFLLLLLLL See, it always comes back to Joni, who wrote: Let all these dogmas go running free The wild and the gentle dogmas Kenneled in me ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:01:26 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Why not restrict hunters to sharpened sticks and slings? How about they have to catch the animal and bite its neck to kill it. Maybe they could just sit in a circle singing "Kumbaya" and bore the animals to death? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Fye" To: "David Henderson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > David wrote: > > > Where is the fairness in killing an unarmed cow in a meat processing plant? > > I grew up hunting and fishing as did most people in Louisiana. Are you > > saying it's better to eat the fish you buy in the store that someone else > > killed than it is to catch and eat your own fish? I don't see the logic in > > that. I have never known hunters who shoot animals at random and leave them > > lying in the fields. Hunters consume or sell or give away the meat. For > > most people, hunting and fishing harkens back to a simpler time when we > > lived hand-to-land. It gives you the same feeling of accomplishment that > > growing your own vegetables gives you (even though all gardeners know it > > would be easier to just go to the grocery store and buy their vegetables). > > We are hunters and gatherers by nature, and it can feel really wonderful to > > many to take your meat and fish and vegetables straight from God and > > distribute them to your friends and family without commerce. > > David, you've made some good points, as did Vince when he explained > that hunting, for rural folks, can supplement a family's food sources. > > How about we level the playing field a bit, though, by nixing guns in > favor of archery equipment? That would seem to be a lot more fair, > not to mention challenging. > > If you want to recognize our hunting/gathering instincts, then lets > return to how all of that started, before guns were even invented. > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:59:38 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Hi Brad, My husband's brother-in-law is a hunter. One day I asked him the question of why and he said the exact same thing you said. Another person who used to work for me some years back said that the problem started when wolves became non-existent in our area. He said that wolves kept the proper balance of the herd and now that they are gone, the natural balance of things are out of kilter. Sherelle Brad wrote, I live on the edge of a state park. Last year, the state had a shooting contest, the winners of which were permitted to hunt in the park for one day. Why? To thin the herd of wild deer that populate the park and had almost bred themselves to extinction. The park cannot support them all and they had grown weak and sickly. This year, the deer are much larger. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:02:14 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > Maybe they could just sit in a circle singing "Kumbaya" and bore the animals to > death? Works for me! : ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:23:05 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Mia, I live in Tx and I've never heard of that. There are plenty of places to hunt here if someone wants to do so, if someone can kill an animal over the net now then I guess they could kill anyone, that scares the crap out of me. Let's hope it's not true...db >>> "mia ortlieb" 3/29/2005 10:15:36 PM >>> Lori wrote: <> And what about the latest trend in hunting? Killing a deer from your personal computer - I heard that there is a preserve in Texas where they march the animals across so a guy in the comforts of his own home can go online, pay with a credit card, then point and shoot with the click of a button over the Internet. What's up with that? (sigh) Mia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:12:36 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Mark Morford: Do You Need A Living Will? Do You Need A Living Will? Keep Congress and rabid Christians off your sad, brain-damaged body -- fill this out today! By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Wednesday, March 30, 2005 You could be hit by a bus tomorrow. You could fall horribly ill, get a tumor, be struck in the head by unimaginably heavy things. You could get mercury poisoning as a result of a laughable, Bush-gutted Environmental Protection Agency that just doesn't give a damn anymore. Hey, it could happen. Will you be ready? Do you have the proper paperwork? http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/03/30/notes033005.DTL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:22:49 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) It is with good animal husbandry in mind that hunting is restricted within a state to certain areas each year and only during restricted seasons and even what sex is permitted to be hunted on which day. Deer hunting is not allowed when the animals are in rut, or later in the spring when the does are carrying. Males must have arrived at a certain size to be hunted and does may only be hunted on specified days. Hunters are issued tags which they must afix to their kill when removing it from the forest. If a game warden finds you with a dead animal and no tag, or worse, no hunting license, you are looking at jail time. (The lack of a tag would indicate you had already bagged your allowed game and used your tag already.) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > Hi Brad, > > My husband's brother-in-law is a hunter. One day I asked him the question of > why and he said the exact same thing you said. Another person who used to > work for me some years back said that the problem started when wolves became > non-existent in our area. He said that wolves kept the proper balance of the > herd and now that they are gone, the natural balance of things are out of > kilter. > > Sherelle > > Brad wrote, > > I live on the edge of a state park. Last year, the state had a shooting > contest, the winners of which were permitted to hunt in the park for one > day. Why? To thin the herd of wild deer that populate the park and had > almost bred themselves to extinction. The park cannot support them all and > they had grown weak and sickly. This year, the deer are much larger. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:19:56 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: condoms and AIDS, njc > Dogma eat Dogma > The Faithful Beg > Agenda is the road to Heaven > And the Zealot walks it on Crooked Legs LOL ... and don't forget: Well I'm learning It's peaceful With a good dogma and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century They're not going to fix it up Too easy ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:18:52 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc Hi Smurf! Unfortunately, I read this in the Post this morning that it is true. He has a feeding tube going through the nose into the stomach. Here we go! Sherelle Smurf wrote, My GOD!!! I just read that the pope may have to have a feeding tube! If these two threads collide, we may never talk about anything else! - - --Smurf, wondering if the pope hunts in the woods ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:20:52 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL is controlling the world -- njc > >My GOD!!! > > > >I just read that the pope may have to have a feeding > >tube! > > > >If these two threads collide, we may never talk about > >anything else! > And is Jerry Falwell next???? Wonder if he has a living will? Jimmy NP : Eminem, and loving it.......and I never thought that would be something I'd say ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:27:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Thank you so much Brad, This is very interesting. I wasn't aware that there were as many restrictions as there are and I feel that is a very good thing. Sherelle >From: "McMillan Brad" >To: "Sherelle Smith" >CC: >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) >Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:22:49 -0500 > >It is with good animal husbandry in mind that hunting is restricted within >a >state to certain areas each year and only during restricted seasons and >even >what sex is permitted to be hunted on which day. >Deer hunting is not allowed when the animals are in rut, or later in the >spring when the does are carrying. Males must have arrived at a certain >size >to be hunted and does may only be hunted on specified days. Hunters are >issued tags which they must afix to their kill when removing it from the >forest. If a game warden finds you with a dead animal and no tag, or worse, >no hunting license, you are looking at jail time. (The lack of a tag would >indicate you had already bagged your allowed game and used your tag >already.) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sherelle Smith" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:59 AM >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > > > Hi Brad, > > > > My husband's brother-in-law is a hunter. One day I asked him the >question >of > > why and he said the exact same thing you said. Another person who used >to > > work for me some years back said that the problem started when wolves >became > > non-existent in our area. He said that wolves kept the proper balance of >the > > herd and now that they are gone, the natural balance of things are out >of > > kilter. > > > > Sherelle > > > > Brad wrote, > > > > I live on the edge of a state park. Last year, the state had a shooting > > contest, the winners of which were permitted to hunt in the park for one > > day. Why? To thin the herd of wild deer that populate the park and had > > almost bred themselves to extinction. The park cannot support them all >and > > they had grown weak and sickly. This year, the deer are much larger. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:36:01 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Bear (no pun intended) in mind, I do not hunt. I like my meat on styrofoam under plastic wrap like God intended. I tried hunting and found it wasn't for me. (I can gut a fish, but draw the line at warm mammals.) But I understand hunters and hunting and support them in that, as long as they follow the rules. I enjoy shooting holes in paper targets and appreciate the craftsmanship of a good firearm. I guess that makes me a "gun nut" in some circles. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Fye" To: "McMillan Brad" Cc: "David Henderson" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > Maybe they could just sit in a circle singing "Kumbaya" and bore the animals to > > death? > > Works for me! : ) > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:36:01 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) -- now hunting The restrictions and tags and whatnot are a good thing, imo. However ... I live across the street from a wooded area that belongs to the state of Maryland. It's referred to as a state park, although it hasn't been developed and isn't very park-like (and I'm glad for this). Those woods are full of deer. If I wake early enough, I often see several deer in my backyard. As destructive as they are to my landscaping (as they would be to my vegetable garden if I didn't fence it as I do), I can't imagine shooting one of them -- even though I actually do like the taste of venison. I just can't imagine it. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:11 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > I enjoy shooting holes in paper targets and appreciate the craftsmanship of > a good firearm. I guess that makes me a "gun nut" in some circles. Oh, hey, I've been known on the JMDL for years as a gun owner, which I am. I own a handgun, a .38 Taurus. I've never fired the thing and would never have purchased it on my own, but when my brother died I ended up with it because my mother decided these two things: 1) I lived in a "big city" (San Antonio, then), and 2) I was the person in the family least likely to blow my own head off (and now I take anti-depressants to ward off those demons, so what did Mom know?). Now I live in the Washington DC metropolitan area, my house is exactly in the middle of the first 5 sniper shootings of several years ago, and there seem to be shootings in our area everyday. Therefore I'm not planning on getting rid of the gun until I live someplace more safe than I do now, and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone who was threatening my life or the life of someone I love. So maybe I'm a hypocrite? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:45:58 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Free Living Will Forms http://www.uslivingwillregistry.com/forms.shtm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:48:25 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: condoms and AIDS, njc Love it!!! Steve >>> Lori Fye 3/30/2005 10:19:56 AM >>> > Dogma eat Dogma > The Faithful Beg > Agenda is the road to Heaven > And the Zealot walks it on Crooked Legs LOL ... and don't forget: Well I'm learning It's peaceful With a good dogma and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century They're not going to fix it up Too easy ; ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:57:24 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Not a hypocrite, Lori. That makes you a realist. I was a state parole officer for 16 years and have practiced criminal defense for about 10. I know what evil lurks in the minds of men (and women). When I left law enforcement, I felt naked without a sidearm for about, oh, a month. Then I appreciated the lack of weight on one side, and not wearing holes in the linings of sportcoats and suit jackets. I still wouldn't get rid of the handguns stashed strategically around my boat, and I look both ways when I step out of the backdoor of my downtown office at night. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Fye" To: "McMillan Brad" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > I enjoy shooting holes in paper targets and appreciate the craftsmanship of > > a good firearm. I guess that makes me a "gun nut" in some circles. > > Oh, hey, I've been known on the JMDL for years as a gun owner, which I > am. I own a handgun, a .38 Taurus. I've never fired the thing and > would never have purchased it on my own, but when my brother died I > ended up with it because my mother decided these two things: 1) I > lived in a "big city" (San Antonio, then), and 2) I was the person in > the family least likely to blow my own head off (and now I take > anti-depressants to ward off those demons, so what did Mom know?). > > Now I live in the Washington DC metropolitan area, my house is exactly > in the middle of the first 5 sniper shootings of several years ago, > and there seem to be shootings in our area everyday. Therefore I'm > not planning on getting rid of the gun until I live someplace more > safe than I do now, and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone who was > threatening my life or the life of someone I love. > > So maybe I'm a hypocrite? > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:01:16 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Rhythm & Torch NJC Thanks everyone for the warm wishes! I've been working very hard on new sequences and songs that it seems like I don't have a life. At one point this weekend, I asked myself what the feck I was doing. Now I know why. Thanks for the reminder, Mia and Sherelle that there are good things that come with dream-chasing. Steve p.s. Sherelle, I have been busting my chops on Love and Paris Rain by Brenda Russell. What a difficult song for someone who is not a Jazz piano player. However, in putting out my desire to learn this amazing song, the universe provided me with some great tutors- and the score! It's coming along, but I wish you were singing it when I played it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:11:24 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Artists of the '60s Some of the artists of the '60s are revising their hits with new lyrics to accommodate aging baby boomers. They include: Herman's Hermits Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Walker The Bee Gees How Can You Mend a Broken Hip Bobby Darin Splish, Splash, I Was Havin' a Flash Ringo Starr I Get By With a Little Help from Depends Roberta Flack The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face Johnny Nash I Can't See Clearly Now Paul Simon Fifty Ways to Lose Your Liver Commodores Once, Twice, Three Times to the Bathroom Marvin Gaye I Heard it Through the GrapeNuts Procol Harem A Whiter Shade of Hair Leo Sayer You Make Me Feel Like Napping The Temptations Papa's Got a Kidney Stone Abba Denture Queen Tony Orlando Knock 3 Times on the Ceiling if you Hear Me Fall Helen Reddy I am Woman, Hear me Snore Willie Nelson On the Throne Again Leslie Gore It's My Procedure and I'll Cry if I Want : D ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:15:57 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) The anti-gun people and media hypes like Michael Moore like to make out like the US is ranged with sub-literates armed to the teeth, shooting at anything that moves 24/7/365. The gun owners I have known have been responsible, safety conscious people of at least normal intelligence. The thing I don't understand about the school shootings is the lack of parental control or basic at-home gun safety. My Dad gave me a .22 rifle for Christmas when I was eleven. But he kept the bolt (includes the firing pin) unless we were going to the range together, until I was sixteen. At that, it never would have occured to me to take it to school, let alone shoot a classmate or a teacher! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > Thank you so much Brad, > > This is very interesting. I wasn't aware that there were as many > restrictions as there are and I feel that is a very good thing. > > Sherelle > > >From: "McMillan Brad" > >To: "Sherelle Smith" > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > >Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:22:49 -0500 > > > >It is with good animal husbandry in mind that hunting is restricted within > >a > >state to certain areas each year and only during restricted seasons and > >even > >what sex is permitted to be hunted on which day. > >Deer hunting is not allowed when the animals are in rut, or later in the > >spring when the does are carrying. Males must have arrived at a certain > >size > >to be hunted and does may only be hunted on specified days. Hunters are > >issued tags which they must afix to their kill when removing it from the > >forest. If a game warden finds you with a dead animal and no tag, or worse, > >no hunting license, you are looking at jail time. (The lack of a tag would > >indicate you had already bagged your allowed game and used your tag > >already.) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sherelle Smith" > >To: > >Cc: > >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:59 AM > >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > > > > > > Hi Brad, > > > > > > My husband's brother-in-law is a hunter. One day I asked him the > >question > >of > > > why and he said the exact same thing you said. Another person who used > >to > > > work for me some years back said that the problem started when wolves > >became > > > non-existent in our area. He said that wolves kept the proper balance of > >the > > > herd and now that they are gone, the natural balance of things are out > >of > > > kilter. > > > > > > Sherelle > > > > > > Brad wrote, > > > > > > I live on the edge of a state park. Last year, the state had a shooting > > > contest, the winners of which were permitted to hunt in the park for one > > > day. Why? To thin the herd of wild deer that populate the park and had > > > almost bred themselves to extinction. The park cannot support them all > >and > > > they had grown weak and sickly. This year, the deer are much larger. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:21:51 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Smiling very much right now njc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another person with great taste and intelligence comes out of the closet... Vinceminem - -------------- Original message -------------- >> Jimmy > NP : Eminem, and loving it.......and I never thought that would be something > I'd say ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:42:27 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: (NJC) Artists of the '60s That is too cute...and too real! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Fye" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: (NJC) Artists of the '60s > Some of the artists of the '60s are revising their hits with new > lyrics to accommodate aging baby boomers. > > They include: > > Herman's Hermits Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Walker > > The Bee Gees How Can You Mend a Broken Hip > > Bobby Darin Splish, Splash, I Was Havin' a Flash > > Ringo Starr I Get By With a Little Help from Depends > > Roberta Flack The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face > > Johnny Nash I Can't See Clearly Now > > Paul Simon Fifty Ways to Lose Your Liver > > Commodores Once, Twice, Three Times to the Bathroom > > Marvin Gaye I Heard it Through the GrapeNuts > > Procol Harem A Whiter Shade of Hair > > Leo Sayer You Make Me Feel Like Napping > > The Temptations Papa's Got a Kidney Stone > > Abba Denture Queen > > Tony Orlando Knock 3 Times on the Ceiling if you Hear Me Fall > > Helen Reddy I am Woman, Hear me Snore > > Willie Nelson On the Throne Again > > Leslie Gore It's My Procedure and I'll Cry if I Want > > > : D > > > ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:57:58 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Scriptures NJC I guess sometimes it pays to know your scriptures... ;-) Steve An elderly woman had just returned to her home from an evening of Church services when she was startled by an intruder. She caught the man in the act of robbing her home of its valuables and yelled, "Stop! Acts 2:38!" (Repent and be baptized, in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven.) The burglar stopped in his tracks. The woman calmly called the police and explained what she had done. As the officer cuffed the man to take him in, he asked the burglar, "Why did you just stand there? All the old lady did was yell a scripture to you." "Scripture?" replied the burglar. "She said she had an Ax and Two 38's!" (rimshot) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:59:48 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Rhythm & Torch NJC Yes there are so please keep chasing! I'm so happy and proud for you!!! Love, Sherelle >From: "Steven Polifka" >To: >CC: , >Subject: Rhythm & Torch NJC >Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:01:16 -0600 > >Thanks everyone for the warm wishes! >I've been working very hard on new sequences and songs that it seems >like >I don't have a life. At one point this weekend, I asked myself what the >feck I was >doing. > >Now I know why. Thanks for the reminder, Mia and Sherelle that there >are good things >that come with dream-chasing. > >Steve > > >p.s. Sherelle, I have been busting my chops on Love and Paris Rain by >Brenda Russell. What a difficult song for someone who is not a Jazz >piano player. However, in putting out my desire to learn this amazing >song, the universe provided me with some great tutors- and the score! >It's coming along, but I wish you were singing it when I played it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:27:27 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni on Miles DVD No, it hasn't been discussed that I recall. Details, please! DOVETUSAI/ Fabio e Luigi wrote: > Hi everybody, I don't know if someone has already posted this message > concerning Joni's interviews on Miles Davis DVD 'Miles Electric - A > different kind of blue'. Beautiful ! > Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:25:05 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) Yes, I agree with you that teaching gun safety is a priority. In every walk of life there are people in any given circumstance who do the right thing and other people who do the wrong thing. I appreciate the fact that your father took the time and care to make sure you remained safe with your gun. That is such wisdom. I applaud him for it. Sherelle >From: "McMillan Brad" >To: "Sherelle Smith" >CC: >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) >Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:15:57 -0500 > >The anti-gun people and media hypes like Michael Moore like to make out >like >the US is ranged with sub-literates armed to the teeth, shooting at >anything >that moves 24/7/365. The gun owners I have known have been responsible, >safety conscious people of at least normal intelligence. > >The thing I don't understand about the school shootings is the lack of >parental control or basic at-home gun safety. My Dad gave me a .22 rifle >for >Christmas when I was eleven. But he kept the bolt (includes the firing pin) >unless we were going to the range together, until I was sixteen. At that, >it >never would have occured to me to take it to school, let alone shoot a >classmate or a teacher! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sherelle Smith" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:27 AM >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > > > Thank you so much Brad, > > > > This is very interesting. I wasn't aware that there were as many > > restrictions as there are and I feel that is a very good thing. > > > > Sherelle > > > > >From: "McMillan Brad" > > >To: "Sherelle Smith" > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > >Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:22:49 -0500 > > > > > >It is with good animal husbandry in mind that hunting is restricted >within > > >a > > >state to certain areas each year and only during restricted seasons and > > >even > > >what sex is permitted to be hunted on which day. > > >Deer hunting is not allowed when the animals are in rut, or later in >the > > >spring when the does are carrying. Males must have arrived at a certain > > >size > > >to be hunted and does may only be hunted on specified days. Hunters are > > >issued tags which they must afix to their kill when removing it from >the > > >forest. If a game warden finds you with a dead animal and no tag, or >worse, > > >no hunting license, you are looking at jail time. (The lack of a tag >would > > >indicate you had already bagged your allowed game and used your tag > > >already.) > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Sherelle Smith" > > >To: > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:59 AM > > >Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brad, > > > > > > > > My husband's brother-in-law is a hunter. One day I asked him the > > >question > > >of > > > > why and he said the exact same thing you said. Another person who >used > > >to > > > > work for me some years back said that the problem started when >wolves > > >became > > > > non-existent in our area. He said that wolves kept the proper >balance >of > > >the > > > > herd and now that they are gone, the natural balance of things are >out > > >of > > > > kilter. > > > > > > > > Sherelle > > > > > > > > Brad wrote, > > > > > > > > I live on the edge of a state park. Last year, the state had a >shooting > > > > contest, the winners of which were permitted to hunt in the park for >one > > > > day. Why? To thin the herd of wild deer that populate the park and >had > > > > almost bred themselves to extinction. The park cannot support them >all > > >and > > > > they had grown weak and sickly. This year, the deer are much larger. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:35:51 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Tragedy at Red Lake High School (njc) mia ortlieb wrote: > And what about the latest trend in hunting? Killing a deer from your > personal computer - I heard that there is a preserve in Texas where they > march the animals across so a guy in the comforts of his own home can go > online, pay with a credit card, then point and shoot with the click of a > button over the Internet. I am starting a website "Hit George Bush with a pie". Anyone got some good video editing software? RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:47:33 -0500 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Happy Birthday, Paz! NJC Many Happy Returns on your BIG birthday, Mikey! I won't divulge how old you are, but a half-century is a pretty good chunk of time, ain't it? I wouldn't know since I'm such a Spring chicken myself. :-) You're my bestest friend in the Whole Wide World, so do me a favor: don't go changing, okay? Love, Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:26:24 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Songs of a Prarie Girl Songs of a Prarie Girl has been reduced to $14.99 at Amazon. peace, david No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 3/30/05 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Alison Krauss + Union Station Live at the library NJC Just borrowed the special edition 2-DVD set at the library... Alison Krauss + Union Station...bit wow...this is fantastic music! I love libraries for this reason (hi Jerry and Deb)..I cannot help but hear shades of Claudia in Alison's voice. ;-) hi Claud ! other new music from work.... Jack Johnson, In Between Dreams and there's an explosion of Canadian music/musicians because the Junos are here this weekend!. Mags Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:20:36 +0000 From: LittleBreen@comcast.net Subject: [none] Mia said: <> Yeah, I keep hoping to read that someone who signed up for that pushed the wrong button and was found bloodied in front of their PC or MAC with no sign of breaking or entering. Soon to be an episode of Law & Order: Stoopid Crimes Division. Happy thoughts, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:44:22 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Paz! NJC jrmco1@aol.com wrote: > Many Happy Returns on your BIG birthday, Mikey! I won't divulge how > old you are, but a half-century is a pretty good chunk of time, > ain't > it? I wouldn't know since I'm such a Spring chicken myself. :-) > Mr. Paz! Welcome to your Half-Dollar Dayze! You're in good company, bro! Mark E. in Seattle looking at 51 next month ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:54:17 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Paz! NJC HAPPY FRICKIN BIRTHDAY MICHAEL! Congrats on turning 50, although your tits may sag in that halter top as you cruise up and down Bourbon St. :) love, Jimmy ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #143 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)