From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2005 #134 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, March 25 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 134 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Schiavo more NJC [Smurf ] RE: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Schiavo more NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Pippin NJC [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC [vince ] Re: anatomical gift programs, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] re:Re: NJC burial, your body ["mia ortlieb" ] Re: Schiavo more NJC [Catherine McKay ] RE: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: good husband?, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Ashara, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal [Reuben Bell ] Re: I love this list! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: Recording Session in May [Michael Paz ] Re: who is Terri Schiavo? (njc) [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:44:14 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Schiavo more NJC Jerry wrote: > > And they'll see it as a sign from God if Terri > > passes on Good Friday. Then Catherine wondered: > And if she rises on the third day? A very large rabbit will leave every good Christian child a big basket of goodies ... - --Smurf, who wants to be the first gay pope, but unfortunately is probably about 1500 years late ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:49:05 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC I know it sounds crazy, but--while he is allowed to, the church is worried about there being . . . (drumroll) TWO POPES! Good thing there can't be two Terri Schivaos! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:32 PM To: Lori Fye; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC - --- Lori Fye wrote: > I can't figure out why they don't let the other > almost-dead person do > Terri's last rites and then let him rest in peace. > > I'm writing of the Pope, of course. I don't mean > any offense to those > who hold him in high regard, but holy moley, why > doesn't someone tell > the the man it's time to step down already?? > You would think he would make this decision without someone having to suggest it. It's not as if it isn't allowed (as far as I know anyway.) He has advanced Parkinsons disease and that is not a pretty way to go. He just had a tracheotomy for God's sake. Yes, I agree. He should quit and let someone else take over. Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:55:01 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Schiavo more NJC - --- About the ailing pope, Lori asks: > why > doesn't someone tell > the the man it's time to step down already?? > Because he looks so damned cute in those outfits, Lori. Do YOU want to be the one to tell him he can't be pope anymore? It'd probably KILL him. - --Smurf, who saw John Paul II once, in 1979. I've seen Joni four times though ... Overall, I like her work better, although JP II did start out kinda promising. Not a big fan of his later stuff, like his botched handling of the pedophile rapes and his anti-gay crap. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Schiavo more NJC I would hope she would regain her power of speech and tell her parents off and slap them silly for being faithless selfish grandstanding self-serving narrow-minded fools. <(OOoooohhh, very sick, and I will burn in hell.)> Not a worry because it's just mythology, but if it's not we'll all be there with you and it'll be like an after-life Jonifest! Bob NP: Lyle Lovett, "North Dakota" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:00:48 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Pippin NJC Mark, my twin brother, wrote: <> Yeah, I know, weeks behind as usual (wanna make something of it??) ;-) I just wanted to chime in here, even though you all are probably dozens of threads behind this, that I LOVE Pippin! (Anyone remember my sweet Shepherd with the same name?) I saw it on Broadway with the original cast, Including Irene Ryan, Ben Vereen, Jon Rubenstein, et al. For the record, it wasn't opening night, but Jill Clayburgh was out there for curtain call at the end. Hugs, Ashara, the BIG TIME musical lover! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:58:56 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC Richard Flynn wrote: >I know it sounds crazy, but--while he is allowed to, the church is worried >about there being . . . (drumroll) TWO POPES! > > > > That indeed is the right answer from the Roman Catholid Church point of view. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:06:51 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: anatomical gift programs, njc Lori wrote: I am signed up to be an organ donor, and I have no problem donating the rest of my body to medical science, and I guess I should find out how to do that. Hi Lori! If you donate your major organs, there is a good chance the medical school in your area won't take the rest of your body for the students to use. You can look into this by contacting the medical school in your area... try looking online. Here is the website for my department which will give you an example of what to look for and what donating to a medical school involves: _http://www.uams.edu/neuroscience_cellbiology/anatomical_gift_program/_ (http://www.uams.edu/neuroscience_cellbiology/anatomical_gift_program/) Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:29:25 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re:Re: NJC burial, your body Catherine wrote: < There may be a practical reason why old guys can still impregnate young women. The young guys are all sent off to war (by the old guys). Who is left to ensure future generations? Old guys - On the other hand... maybe wars all start *because* old guys want younger women...>> Then Randy wrote: <> But, ofcourse - the RICH men get RICH by profitting somehow from WAR, no? Recently, one of my Asian studies teacher was discussing China and how their child limit policy is going to create a nation of mostly men and very little women. He predicted that China will wage a war in the future with other countries over women! He also said the war would be spun and the causes would be stated as some other reason, but the root cause would still be women. Farfetched? Maybe...maybe not... Mia - a funeral expense dodger wannabe (thanks Lucy!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:49:31 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Schiavo more NJC - --- Smurf wrote: > > --Smurf, who wants to be the first gay pope, but > unfortunately is probably about 1500 years late ... > Plus - it's one job you're too young for! Imagine that! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Schiavo more now the Pope NJC - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > I know it sounds crazy, but--while he is allowed to, > the church is worried > about there being . . . (drumroll) TWO POPES! > Cool! Pope fight!! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Schiavo more NJC - --- Bob Muller wrote: > <(OOoooohhh, very sick, and I will burn in hell.)> > > Not a worry because it's just mythology, but if it's > not we'll all be there with you and it'll be like an > after-life Jonifest! > Yay! Bring the marshmallows! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:24:20 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: good husband?, njc Vince wrote: he is a hero, an amazing man, a wonderful husband. Hi Vince, What about the following? Love, Laura Schiavo Refuses to Dissolve Marriage FS 798.01 Living in Open Adultery Since 1995, Michael Schiavo, Terribs legal guardian, has been engaged to and living with Jodi Centzone. Michael Schiavo has fathered two children with this woman. Michael Schiavo is currently married to Terri Schiavo. The two were married in a Catholic Nuptial Mass, November 1984. Incidentally, in order to be married in a Catholic ceremony, and at the insistence of Terri because Michael was not Catholic, Michael agreed to get a special dispensation. One stipulation to receive a special dispensation was that Michael agreed to raise any children that Terri and he may have as Roman Catholics. Incidentally, the manner in which the Schindler family was made aware that Michael was engaged to another woman while still married to Terri was receiving the obituary of Michaelbs mother, Claire Schiavo, when she died in 1997. In part of the obituary it was stated that Claire Schiavo is survived by Michael Schiavo and his fiancC)e Jodi Centzone. There was no mention of Michael Schiavobs wife, Terri. This happened once again in 2001 when Michael Schiavo's father passed away. While Jodi Centzone was mentioned as Michaelbs fiancC)e, there was no mentioning of Michaelbs current wife, Terri. Note: Michael Schiavo did testify that he was in fact engaged to marry Jodi Centzone once his wife has passed away. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:30:20 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Ashara, njc Lori wrote: Ashara? Ashara who? Hi Lori, You know, the lady at the fest who threw Viggo into her car and dove in after him. I have pictures of this if I could ever post them. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:25:17 -0500 From: Reuben Bell Subject: Re: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal I got one of these a couple of weeks ago, and am embarrassed to admit that I actually had begun to fill in my card number when I realized that I was getting scammed. Very scary - I have always thought of myself as pretty savvy about stuff like this. It really is pretty clever... Reuben On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:52:31 -0500, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > Just a heads-up to everyone - if you receive an email that looks like it's from PayPal saying your account has been de-activated temporarily, it's a fraud. They send you to a web site and ask you for your credit card. (Very clever. The site looks JUST LIKE the PayPal site, but it's not) > > Beware... > > lots of love, > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:41:37 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC Schiavo and massacre Thanks for the posts ya'll. And btw if I am ever in a way similar to Terry and there is no hope. All of you please come on down and smother me with your love cause I for ONE would not like to be that for 15 minutes (much less 15 years). Feeling sad and happy at the same time! My brother Willy has taken a wrong turn for the worse and my brother Julius (or "RAY" as we call him in the hood) turned up for a week long celbration for no apparent reason and I am so grateful. Love to all! Paz NP-Rain-PG P.S> Wish ya'll was here! > Thank you for saying this Smurf. I understand the need for people to process > what's going on with the case because we cannot turn around without hearing > about it on a news report or seeing a newspaper (or reading a jmdl email for > that matter). > > But let's keep things in perspective shall we? Thousands of people in this > country are in a vegetative state. Thousands of family members must make > unfathomably hard decisions on what kind of assistance and rehabilitation to > provide or not provide. Terry is one person, her family one family. And > their case has been used and manipulated as another hot-button topic to > galvanize a small but very influential minority. Really it sickens me that the > Republican congress is psyched because this is such a great issue for them. > What a boon! And that we can enact a federal law and the president can fly > back to DC and sign it (he could have signed it in Crawford) just this one > time, for this one special case. > > But in addition to discussing whether Terry can swallow food or not, or move > her finger and is she in discomfort, and is her husband evil and are her > parents crazy religious fanatics, why not a national dialogue on the continuum > of PVS and what it means for treatment. This state is only becoming more > common as medical 'advances' make it possible for people to survive major > brain trauma. Or how about the importance of making your own specific wishes > known ahead of time in writing in a legal document so that painful battles > like this do not occur? > > And yes Smurf, let's not forget to talk about the people in Red Lake, which to > my mind should have been the leading story this week. About how it is the > worst school shooting since the horror of Columbine. Actually, has anybody > totalled the number of deaths from gun violence in the past 2 months? It's > adding up isn't it? And we still have a gun-show loophole, the ban on assault > weapons is no longer, and people on the terrorist watch list are allowed to > purchase weapons. > > Jenny > > > > Smurf wrote: > The sheer brilliance of the right's manipulation of > the media is beautifully illustrated by the fact that > so many people are distracted by this > right-to-live-or-die case on the day after the latest > school massacre -- with nearly as many people dead as > Columbine -- has happened. > > Why aren't people talking about guns and Native > American issues and whatever the f*ck is happening to > the children of the US? > > Because now it's all about distracting a very dumb > populace with knee-jerk issues. People don't even > particularly care that we're at war. What they really > care about is gay marriage. In fact I bet most > Americans would rather see a son or daughter die in > Iraq before marrying someone of the same gender. > > Sorry to be such a little ray of sunshine tonight. I'm > actually in a pretty good mood, but just so weary of > manipulation by spin thugs and the whole myth of the > liberal media. > > --Smurf > > NP: No TV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:43:32 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I love this list! (NJC) We think of her round these parts as "an old OAK tree" (besides being older than dirt!)) OOPS! I dit it again! Brit > I looked at some old JMDL emails and there once was a long time ago a member > named Ashara . She is like a really old member though, when she joined, > it seems, Joni was still doing new music and touring. :-) > > Vince > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >>> P.S. I am wondering if many people will not even recognize me since it's >>> been so long since I've posted a thing! >> >> Ashara? Ashara who? >> >> ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:47:09 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Recording Session in May Gary A spirit like yours should record as many of your own songs that will fit on the record + a couple YOU really love. I would give my eye teeth to produce a couple of dem! Best of luck! Always loved you voice as well as your spirit! Willy is not well tonight and I am trying to figure out what to do. Best Paz > Hello all, > > I apologize in advance for not marking this NJC, but I am hoping to > reach as many of you as possible with this post. I am due to travel to > Nashville in early May to do my next recording session, and would > appreciate the list's ideas of songs to record. It can be Joni songs or > non-Joni songs. I will certainly take any suggestions into > consideration, and would also especially be interested in hearing from > the songwriters on the list. If you have a song that you have written > that you might like to hear someone else record, I'd be most happy to > listen to any songs you may choose to send me. > > Thanks for any input you may have for me! > > Best regards, > > Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:48:40 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: who is Terri Schiavo? (njc) Please forward this post to ALL of the media in the U.S. Along with fotos of her when she was alive. Love Paz >> From the subject line, you're probably wondering what rock I've been living >> under. Oh, I've heard the debates, watched the news, read the posts on this >> list, and all. > > But how many people can actually tell me anything about HER? I've searched the > web. But still have no clue who she was when she was healthy - her favorite > food, what she hoped for and dreamed about, what music she loved, what tv > shows she enjoyed... It breaks my heart that her legacy is a series of > videotapes that show her in a hospital bed, with eyes that are either blank or > beseeching (depending on your point of view). > > Sure, I have an opinion about the issues. But somehow, the issues seem to be > all that matter, not the person. (I'm not judging anyone who has voiced their > opinion - just offering my own perspective.) > > lots of love, > Anne ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2005 #134 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)